WHY QUENTIN TARANTINO SUCKS ACCORDING TO SCIENCE (or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Admit Tarantino is Grossly Overrated)

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Prepare your posterior for a pummeling. Brace your behind for a bruise. Fortify your fanny for the fury. Ready your rump for the rage. Gird your glutes for a grinding. Strengthen your seat for a sanding. Friends, your collective Tarantino loving asses are going to get butthurt.

Quentin Tarantino. Prolific and influential director, actor, and screenwriter. Known for his numerous groundbreaking films, all of which garnered widespread critical and commercial acclaim upon release. Do the words Pulp Fiction mean anything to you, you scrub? Of course they do. You’re a person of the world, after all. You’ve really lived, because you’ve seen Pulp Fiction, the marker of the true post-modern cynical bourgeoisie. You’re hip. You’re trendy. You’re fucking suave.

Well, I’ve got news for you: Quentin Tarantino is grossly overrated. I’ll give you a moment to take in the searing pain of 40-grit sandpaper rubbing your clenched sphincter with all the gentleness of Vlad the Impaler. Finished? Good. Throw some topical cream on your toasted bagel and let’s forge onward.

Like most 20-somethings who grew up in the 1990s and 2000s, I believed Tarantino brilliant. However, there is a certain tendency among 20-somthings, fresh to adulthood with the world at their grubby, privileged little fingertips, to confuse something that feels new with something good. Just because Tarantino utilizes excessive dialogue in his movies doesn’t mean it’s done well, and just because you wasted your childhood on Michael Bay and James Cameron doesn’t mean Tarantino is brilliant. Simply put: your standards were normalized at “abysmal” from the get-go. You weren’t expected, the first time you watched Kill Bill, to know it wasn’t the pinnacle of filmmaking.

You’re not convinced.  You’re intelligent. This isn’t your first time on the internet, and you know not to believe everything you read. “But even Roger Ebert liked Quentin Tarantino!” you cry, indignant. You demand empirical evidence: “Our aching keisters require scientific rigour!” Fair enough. This isn’t actually science, but whatever. Like a political philosophy class, I’ll slap the term “science” on this so you take it seriously.


 

THE SCIENCE:

 

EXHIBIT A: DIALOGUE

Tarantino is known for his long, drawn-out dialogue, used to in scenes to build tension, often leading to a bloody and dramatic release. It’s a powerful directing tool, one underutilized in today’s post-Independence Day-action-packed-Hollywood-blockbuster era of films. Tarantino is, unquestionably, a master of the technique, revealing intimacies about his characters, injecting subtle humour, and drawing in the audience to the point of breathlessness through his commanding use of language. So what’s the critique?

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“Is this asshole for real?” – You, probably

The problem with Tarantino’s use of dialogue is: it is, quite literally, the only thing he does. Every scene. Every film. The “greatest independent film of all time”, Reservoir Dogs, uses the dialogue-driven buildup to the point of nausea. As does Pulp Fiction. As does Death Proof. As does Inglourious Basterds. Yes, the tavern scene in Basterds is brilliant in its subtle buildup of tension and subsequent release in bloodbath, but was cheapened by all the other scenes in the movie that did the Exact. Same. Thing.

Not surprisingly, of Tarantino’s filmography, his most enjoyable movies are those that rely on this technique the least (Kill Bill 1 & 2, Django Unchained), but even in these his dependency on excessive dialogue is markedly present. When you first watch a Tarantino movie, the dialogue draws you in, it involves you in the story and the characters. If you decide to watch it again, the dialogue becomes wearing. If you (in a fit of madness) desire to watch it a third time, the dialogue is tedious, grating, and entirely unenjoyable.


 

EXHIBIT B: THEME

Tarantino’s dependence on established paradigms extends beyond individual scenes to nearly his entire filmography, in the form of a theme: revenge. Inglourious Basterds? Revenge. Both Kill Bills? Revenge. Django Unchained? Revenge. Death Proof? Revenge. The upcoming The Hateful Eight? Revenge. Six out of nine Tarantino films are blatantly about revenge.

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Dr. Shultz looks as excited as I feel watching Reservoir Dogs.

Don’t get me wrong. I understand that artists work in themes, and to break out of the mold can (and often does) spell certain doom for their career. Horror authors write mostly horror-themed books; heavy metal musicians write heavy metal music — and so on. To branch out of their established, popular paradigm is to risk alienating a fan base. And yet I see a difference between horror authors penning horror novels with substantially different plots, characters, and themes, and the sameness that pervades Tarantino’s work. Two-thirds of Tarantino’s movies use (or will use) revenge as a theme. All of them use excessive dialogue as a tension building technique (some more than others). They all feature similar styles of music, near-identical tone and mood, and even clone copies of the same characters, over and over. Yes, they’re all in different settings and time periods, but if I were to copy/paste the same article over and over again, change the title, time period, all involved names, and market it as “new”, readers would quickly realize I’m not producing anything original.

Were Tarantino were using one particular aspect of this sameness to establish his unique voice as a filmmaker across his filmography, I wouldn’t have an issue. Even if he used two of these as constants I would have little to criticize. But because all his movies feel like the same characters are spouting the same dialogue for the same reasons in the same situations to come to the same conclusions, I’m not convinced that his repeated use of the same theme is anything but laziness and unoriginality.


 

EXHIBIT C: AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURE

“As a writer, I demand the right to write any character in the world that I want to write. I demand the right to be them, I demand the right to think them and I demand the right to tell the truth as I see they are, all right? And to say that I can’t do that because I’m white, but the Hughes brothers can do that because they’re black, that is racist. That is the heart of racism, all right.” – Quentin Tarantino

Okay, fair enough. Your film, your characters, your creative control. This is art, and art should push boundaries; it should be a reflection of current culture, even in the breaking of paradigms. Maybe especially in the breaking of paradigms. Django Unchained, in its over-the-top use of the “n-word”, is culturally significant. It is truly indicative and a reflection of this age. Before we go any further, however, I ask you to watch this video:

Don’t tell me that didn’t make you squirm. Now let’s re-examine Tarantino’s demands to “be them . . . think them . . . and tell the truth.”

Had Django Unchained been the only Tarantino film to use the “n-word”, it would be almost unparalleled in its cultural significance. But considering his gratuitous use of this most taboo of racial epithets in previous films, it becomes (are you recognizing a recurring theme yet?) cheapened. And when you witness his awkward, real-life interactions with black people, his strange obsession with black culture suddenly reads as pandering at best, appropriation at worst.

Of course, Tarantino is not a racist. The actors (many of whom are Black) in Tarantino’s movies are outspoken in their defence of his use of the word, and we need to take that into account. But in light of the blatant same-ness across the scope of his filmography, this constant recurring use of a racial slur, as well as his seeming need to give black people revenge for the sins of the fathers instead of trying to create a new dialogue between races in light of the drastic cultural changes over the last century, his appropriation of the “n-word” comes across as disingenuous. Not to a degree that anyone would be, or should be, offended, but to an extent that, like everything Tarantino touches, wears on the viewer through excessive repetition.


 

EXHIBIT D: FROM DUSK TILL DAWN

At this point you’re either on board with me, or your bottom is flaming like a beacon on a hill. Allow me to clarify some things: I think Tarantino movies can be enjoyable films. Django Unchained was fun, funny, and worth a watch. I’ve analyzed it, yes, and found it wanting under the same lens with which I’ve critiqued his other films, but I won’t sit here and lie to you. I liked it. I liked Pulp Fiction the first time I watched it. I liked both Kill Bills. Tarantino is not without talent, and I can understand, to a certain extent, why people praise his movies.

The Robert Rodriguez directed From Dusk Till Dawn is Tarantino’s greatest saving grace; the best showcase of his talent. The writing is succinct; it showcases a clear Tarantino bent without devolving into the tired, dialogue-driven tension building cliché he seems to save for his own movies. The characters are not typical. They don’t feel tired and reminiscent of other situations and places. The movie is fresh, alive, fun, and bursting with energy (not to mention Rodriguez’s typical tongue-in-cheek directing). It proves Tarantino has the potential to produce interesting material but leaves me to conclude that Rodriguez must have been the defining creative force, since Tarantino’s track record shows he lacks the originality to produce such a film. Still, as the writer, he must be commended. I wish he would work solely as a writer in more situations as losing the creative control he has as both writer and director appears to suit him.

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Salma Hayek certainly didn’t hurt my opinion.

 

This is possibly the crux of the matter. Oft times artists find themselves frustrated by constraint, yet produce their best works under the yoke of limitation. Tarantino, in writing and directing his own movies, has proved he is unable to restrain himself. He demands that be not be restrained, and yet if From Dusk Till Dawn is any indication, he would benefit from such imposed borders.


 

In retrospect, I wish I would have only watched one Tarantino film in my life (and I wish that film were Django Unchained). But I have watched almost all of them, and in the watching have become less and less impressed with the movies and their critical and commercial reaction. Tarantino has really, truly, only made one movie, and has then restated it seven (soon to be eight) times. I don’t ask for every film to be groundbreaking, to shatter the paradigms and social conventions of a generation. I just ask that each film have enough originality for me to believe it’s a separate work of art. I enjoy voice, I enjoy seeing a directorial style revisited. I don’t appreciate one theme, one voice, one style being shoved down my throat, movie after movie, and being told it’s profound. When I watch a Tarantino movie, I can’t help but feel Tarantino is Tarantino’s biggest fan. If I wanted to watch masturbation on film, I could go to any number of adult websites and enjoy myself a lot more (and be done in less than three minutes). In addition, the dialogue would be a lot less tedious on a repeat watch.

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“Well, now that you’ve put it so well, I’m just going to stop making blockbuster movies. I’ve seen the light.”

 

So. On a scale of one to Pi, how chapped is your ass? I too was young and naive once. I believed in Tarantino, his dialogue, his directing, his strange penchant for revenge and black people. The truth became plain to me, however, on an attempted repeat watch of Inglourious Basterds when I realized once the plot had already been revealed, it held no more enjoyment. It took but this simple push to get me started out of the cave of Tarantino, to realize he’s really not doing anything new; rather, my expectations of Hollywood films were so low he seemed a genius. You don’t have to come out of the cave with me, my friends. Enjoy your shadows.

 

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  • MY BACKSIDE IS AFLAME WITH THE FIERY PASSION OF ONE THOUSAND DYING SUNS

    jk, I do like his flicks though.

  • Mother Shabubu III 12 BRICKS
    • Didn’t you hear??? Liking Pulp Fiction just makes you some faux-intellectual hipster try-hard :-/

    • Have you watched Reservoir Dogs recently? I saw it a couple of weeks ago for the first time in about a decade. The dialog was painful, mang.

      • Tyree

        Nope.

      • That’s a paddlin’

        Just when I thought you couldn’t be more wrong.

        • What part was your favorite? The “cool undercover cop” dialog or the utterly unnecessary addition of a ton of racism?

          • Howard Dean

            “The racism, mostly.”

            -Strom Thurmond

          • Howard Dean

            “One time I filibustered against civil rights for so long that I almost didn’t have the energy to sexually assault my black servants when I got home. Almost.”

            -Strom Thurmond

          • That’s a paddlin’

            Funny enough I don’t think there are any good parts in that dialogue. But calling it painful is just wrong. It’s the machinery that keeps the movie going and the only thing that does keep it going. Only way for dialogue to really pop up is to be put on top, not being the pillar to build upon (obvs exceptions exist).

      • I’ll admit, even the first I saw the movie, I would get a little bored during the long dialogue of RD.

        • Dagon

          It took me 2 views to get through the whole thing.

      • KJM

        Strangely enough, I haven’t felt the need to see any of his movies since Jackie Brown(a far superior movie to Reservoir Dogs).

  • Herr Schmitty

    Yo, revenge is only a theme in his movies because revenge is perhaps the single best concept in the world.

    Or weed is. Revenge or weed. Not sure which I like better!

  • Tyree

    Tarantino is amazing. His movies are amazing. His Directing is amazing. You are not amazing.

    Tarantino is metal as fuck!!! Guacamole Jim is not metal as fuck!!!

    Tarantino >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guacamole Jim

    The End

    • Guacamole Jim

      This is truth. And more succinct than any Tarantino movie.

      • Tyree
        • Howard Dean

          Big Trouble in Little China is fucking awesome.

          • Tyree

            BYAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!

          • Yet another one on my Netflix queue…

          • Scrimm

            Put it at the top of that queue

          • Tyree

            Agreed!

          • I’m a terrible procrastinator. There are between 3 and 5 movies on my Netflix list that I’m almost positive I’ll love, but I never get around to watching them.

          • Scrimm

            I can’t say I don’t do the same thing.

          • Ted Nü-Djent ™

            I have a hard drive full of movies and documentaries that will NEVER be watched. Occasionally I’ll flick through them and I’m like Ugh, I couldn’t be bothered. I much rather TV shows these days

          • Ted Nü-Djent ™

            I have a hard drive full of movies and documentaries that will NEVER be watched. Occasionally I’ll flick through them and I’m like Ugh, I couldn’t be bothered. I much rather TV shows these days

        • Scrimm

          Now THERE’S an amazing filmmaker.

        • CyberneticOrganism

          Greatest movie in the history of the universe.

    • Sir Tapir the Based

      Tarantino’s butt isn’t as good as Guac Jim’s.

      • Tyree

        I don’t give a damn.

      • Guaccy J is also (probably) not a foot fetishist.

        • The W.

          Or a racist.

          • Guacamole Jim

            One of these statements is correct.

          • We all know you have eyes only for bananas, so…

        • Dagon

          I have an armpit fetish.

          • Óðhinn

            I have a fetish armpit. It’s a real problem. 😉

          • That stinks! hehehehe

            GL

  • Sir Tapir the Based

    Never been a big Tarantino fan. I do like Reservoir Dogs tho.

    • I’m stuck in the middle here. I’ve enjoyed Pulp Fiction and Django Unchained, but… I don’t think he’s a great writer. Guaqui’s analysis just reafirmed my position that Tarantino is just a lazy writer because I do too think about the repetition in the arguments of his script writing.

      • KJM

        See ‘Jackie Brown’ and don’t bother with the others.

        • Okkkk!

          • KJM

            Pam Grier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

  • TARANTINO IS OVERRATED AS FUCK I’LL FIGHT ALL YALL.

    • Tyree

      So, are you against Tarantino, or for him? I can’t figure out if you want to fight the people that hate him or fight the people that like his work.

      • I WANT TO FIGHT EVERYONE.

        • Tyree

          touché

        • Mother Shabubu III 12 BRICKS

          Then here are some brass knuckles that should fit ya.

          • hate u so much rn

          • Shrimp in a Pizza Box

            Joey: *adds “small hands” to disqus filter*.

          • diminutive digits

          • Ted Nü-Djent ™

            That’s what she said huehuehue

          • Ted Nü-Djent ™

            That’s what she said huehuehue

          • Ted Nü-Djent ™

            Does he also smell like cabbage?

          • Ted Nü-Djent ™

            Does he also smell like cabbage?

          • Óðhinn

            Does Joe have tiny hands?

          • Tyree
          • Óðhinn

            Whoa! That picture is unfortunate in the sense that the hands do look quite small. It might be an optical illusion though.

          • Mother Shabubu III 12 BRICKS

            It was recently discovered last week after a Hessian Hunter article that Joe apparently has small, freakish hands.

          • And we have to believe HessianHunter! He was watching those tiny hands with baby eyes, so they’re probably more small! o.o)

          • Óðhinn

            A bombshell of a revelation to be sure. That’s just good journalism. 😉

  • Watched Inglorious Basterds again last night. I, too, came to an important realization: I have an aggressive crush on Michael Fassbender.

    • Tyree

      Not so much in that movie! But, in Shame 😉

    • I didn’t want him to die 🙁

    • Have you seen The Counselor? Challenging at first but gets better after viewing several times.

      • Edward/Breegrodamus™

        Ugh, I saw it in the theater and hated it. I wanted to love it. I was super pumped about it.

        • It has replay value for me. I pick up a little something different each time I watch it.

    • Tim Wilsön

      Also re watched the other night. How perfect is the ending ewrhbviwerowb4iof

      • Welcome back man! Glad to see you commenting more!

        GL

        • Tim Wilsön

          haha thanks, i’m too much of a lurker

    • Edward/Breegrodamus™

      Masterlord if you haven’t seen Hunger or Shame I highly, highly recommend them both.

  • Shrimp in a Pizza Box

    I don’t watch a lot of films. I don’t rewatch films I already watched, because I find them boring. I only watched Pulp Fiction (even though I should really sit down and watch Django). Half of your points are invalid for me, but I suck at films, so what do I know.

  • Tyree
  • Mother Shabubu III 12 BRICKS
  • nbm02ss

    Someone else dislikes Tarantino? Yay! ^5!

    • Guacamole Jim

      SOLIDARITY BRO!

      • tertius_decimus

        I thought I’m alone on this planet. Glad, someone else dislikes Tarantino shit. Double flush.

  • That’s a paddlin’

    I like Tarantino very much. I read this and think you have a point. However, I find it irrelevant. The best movie I ever saw was 2 men in 1 room, talking for 2 hours.
    I find his use of revenge as a theme irrelevant as criticism, most movies fit in a handful of categories and Tarantino’s revenge fantasies are not too similar in execution. Even when they are similar.
    So… he’s extensive use of the n-word? Alone it has no weight and D’s weight only calculates if the former arguments apply.

    • Tyree
    • Middenface McFidget

      Is that movie My Dinner with Andre? I’ve been meaning to get around to watching that. I always hear good things about it.

      • That’s a paddlin’

        Don’t think I’ve seen that one either. Been meaning to.

    • You are smart. Keep smarting.

    • NeverBlack

      The Sunset Limited?

      • That’s a paddlin’

        Yes.

  • Anoher common theme in his movies is obsession with women’s feet. Ever notice excessive foot shots in just about all his movies? That being said I still think his movies are better than 90% of what Hollywood shooves down your throat. And yes Robert Rodriguez is the man. This was fun Guac, I enjoyed.

    • Guacamole Jim

      In my (quite obviously questionable) opinion, Robert Rodriguez is a significantly better director. And to be honest I hadn’t noticed his foot deal until Joe pointed it out. Kinda weird.

    • Tyree
    • That’s a paddlin’

      I like feet so that’s just a plus…

      • Una Thurman’s or Bridget Fonda’s?

        • That’s a paddlin’

          Generally.

        • The W.

          I know this is a family guy joke, but they were dead on about her eyes slowly drifting further and further apart in that movie.

          • I watch almost no TV so I surely did not the see this or the other thousands of episodes of this show.

          • The W.

            I gave up on it several years back. It crossed the line between humor and edginess.

      • Hubert

        Hoofs are objectively better though. But you knew that already

      • Sir Tapir the Based

        I, on the other hand, find feet disgusting.

        • I can’t comprehend those human obsessed with feets. Iugh.

        • That’s a paddlin’

          You would, you filthy Tapir.

        • Scrimm

          We agree on this.

          • The W.

            Feet are pretty gross, dude.

          • Scrimm

            I’m constantly grossed out when I leave the house.

    • Ted Nü-Djent ™

      Whaddya mean? Wiggle your big toe.

    • CyberneticOrganism

      There’s nothing inherently sexy about a woman’s feet, but a barefoot woman is sexier than a non-barefoot one because they’re that much closer to nudity.

      http://i.imgur.com/IW8simF.gif

  • Hubert

    Haven’t watched any of his movies, so, I don’t know. Good article I guess.

    • Guacamole Jim

      I’ll take it.

    • tertius_decimus

      You must be the happiest goat in the Universe, then.

  • Sadistikexekution

    Pulp fiktion sukked kokk and his other movies have sukked kokk equally or worse.

    • Guacamole Jim

      Featured comment.

    • Hubert

      Oh dear, this again.

      • Sadistikexekution

        Dearly dearly dear!

      • Ted Nü-Djent ™

        What’s the hubhub?

    • huehue <3

    • Since most people find a beej to be very pleasurable I’ll assume you mean watching Pulp Fiction was like getting the kokk sukked. (Otherwise it would be construed as a crude homophobic -or- misogynistic sentiment towards the sukkee.)

      • Sadistikexekution

        I’m not getting sukked into a discussion about the sukking of kokks 🙂

    • CyberneticOrganism
  • tertius_decimus

    > I’ll give you a moment to take in the searing pain of 40-grit sandpaper
    rubbing your clenched sphincter with all the gentleness of Vlad the
    Impaler.

    There’s soundtrack for that scene.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJRwNkeZF4M

  • I really like Pulp Fiction, Django Unchained, and From Dusk Til Dawn. Off the top of my head, the only other one I’ve seen is Inglorious Basterds, and I didn’t really like that one.

    • Tyree

      Man, It boggles my mind that there are people out there that don’t like Inglorious Basterds. That movie is incredibly well done. Just my opinion though.

      http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kp3vafCBD31qzt5eto1_1280.jpg

      • Dagon

        Same here. Although Django is my favorite.

        • Tyree

          Fantastic!

          • The W.

            I can agree with you there. Really enjoyed Django.

          • Tyree

            The D, is silent.

          • The W.

            Sorry. Endjoyed.

      • It was well done, but it just didn’t really click with me.

      • Maik Beninton

        I never get tired of watching that movie

      • Scrimm

        Like the movie mostly, but the dude pictured annoyed the fuck out of me.

  • Dagon

    I compare Tarantino’s filmmaking to hip hop beat producing.

  • Spear

    From Dusk Till Dawn is terrible. You’re terrible. This is all terrible.

    *flushes article*
    *flushes Toilet ov Hell down toilet of hell*
    *creates toilet ouroboros*
    *universe implodes*
    *universe begins anew*
    *eons pass*
    *life begins on a small blue planet*
    *sentient life develops*
    *history happens*
    *technology advances*
    *space exploration unparalleled*
    *super-powerful telescope built*
    *deduce that universe is spinning*
    *more powerful telescope is built*
    *realize that universe is contained in a giant permanently flushing toilet*
    *scientists baffled*

  • The W.

    Not gonna lie, I thought the Kill Bill movies were a chore to get through.

    • You just don’t, like, GET it maaaan

    • Tyree

      Wow, I don’t think I’ve talked to any one who ever said that. I thought they went by really fast. Very engaging movies I thought.

      • The W.

        I like a lot of his other films (Pulp Fiction is one of my favorites), but Kill Bill just dragged for me. :/

        • Tyree

          Fair enough.

      • Herr Schmitty

        You fought the good fight on this thread. Kill Bill is not even remotely shitty or too long; it’s damn near perfect. I DON’T UNDERSTAND THESE COMPLAINTS MADE BY THE FAITHLESS AGAINST Q-T. AT ALL.

    • Spear

      Never saw them, probably never will. I guess I’m more a fan of drawn-out pseudo-intellectual tripe than mindless action.

      • Kill Bill was painful to me. The second movie was so weird!

        My preferences in Tarantino’s films I’ve watched:

        Django>Inglorious>Pulp Fiction and that’s it.

        • Spear

          Totally agreed. Guacamole was totally on point with this article, but I still prefer the dialogue-heavy stuff to the action stuff.

          • Guacamole Jim

            Yup. Even though I criticize him, his dialogue work can be excellently done.

    • I want to see the whole 4 hr version of it that will never come out.

    • I spent an entire week trying to get my toes to not move together after seeing that movie. I get frustrated just thinking about that experience.

      GL

  • Dagon

    Speaking of dialogue, this movie is fucking boss.

    https://thecinephiliacs.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/12angrymen1997_main.jpg

    • Tyree

      Jack Lemmon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

      • Dagon

        Lemmon is the man!

    • EsusMoose

      I once saw this performed by Japanese actors, it was interesting to attempt to understand what was going on by solely watching it. I’ve meant to get around to watching it in a language I can understand.

  • Also >implying James Cameron hasn’t made three of the best movies EVER. (T1/T2 and Aliens)

  • tertius_decimus

    One more point against Quentin’s directing. Being obsessed with cheap movies, he tries to look like a good, intelligent critic who knows how to imply visual findings in his own art (scene with glasses in the car from “Gone in 60 seconds” by Toby Halicki comes to mind), whereas they do not add nothing important into equation, being just relished fillers.

    • Like all of the instances of “hey, this is a pop culture reference instead of a joke” in Family Guy.

    • Maik Beninton

      You mean like that scene in Pulp Fiction when Bruce Willis is talking to the taxi driver?

  • KJM

    Before I even look at this article I feel compelled to post a trailer for the movie that, above all others, Tarantino wishes he’d made.This is also considered the ultimate “Boston” movie.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WtR-mi6VtU

  • Tim Wilsön

    Inglorious Bastards seems to get better with every rewatch unlike all his other films that fall apart the second time you see them. Everything about that movie is perfect. The whole of act 5 is beautifully done.

    • I’d say Inglorious Bastards and Django are definitely the most rewatchable.

      • Dagon

        Beat me to the punch. Django didn’t feel too long like most of his films do at one point.

      • Tim Wilsön

        I was abit disappointed with Django. Loads of stuff from the script was cut out including much of his wife’s character. It felt a bit incomplete in my opinion. Though that shootout was amazing and Christopher Waltz is a fucking god

        • I am a big Christoph Waltz fan because of those movies. Solid actor.

          • I remember him playing minor roles in indy German films like Schussangst not so long ago. Dude really exploded after Inglorious Basterds.

    • Tim Wilsön
  • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

    Insightfull as fuck!

    “However, there is a certain tendency among 20-somthings, fresh to adulthood with the world at their grubby, privileged little fingertips, to confuse something that feels new with something good.”

  • Óðhinn

    I liked ‘Reservoir Dogs’ and ‘Pulp Fiction’, but I haven’t really enjoyed a Tarantino film since ‘Pulp Fiction’ to be honest.

  • Tyree

    What are are your opinions on Jackie Brown? I enjoy it.

  • i don’t love QT, i don’t hate QT. but i see NO mention of his best film:
    http://www.nextmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/pamgrier-jackiebrown220.jpg

    • Tyree

      Damn it. I just commented about this.

    • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

      Haha I’ve seen the porno remake, Jackie Browneye!

    • Maik Beninton

      I didn’t liked much on the first time I watched.

    • Ted Nü-Djent ™

      Because it didn’t fit his arguent

    • Ted Nü-Djent ™

      Because it didn’t fit his arguent

  • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

    Weren’t you one of the guys singing the praises of Guy Ritchie the other day? Infamous for both being the biggest Tarantino ripoff of all time and the nuclear winter worthy bomb that was ‘Swept Away’.

    • KJM

      I would hope not. Guy Ritchie blows goats. QT is Kurosawa compared to him.

  • Maik Beninton

    I got really bored when watching Jackie Brown it was too dialog filled.
    But still, the scene of the burning theater is one of the best I’ve ever seen.

  • Max

    I suspect you might be right about the “diminishing returns” effect of re-watching them; though I wouldn’t personally know since Pulp Fiction is the only one I’ve watched twice (and I must say I don’t think that is really ageing well).

    I dunno….I basically agree with every argument this article makes. At the same time, if I’m entertained, I’m entertained.

    I think the only time Tarantino was over-rated was Pulp Fiction (it was one of those “cultural signpost” films, books or albums that can never really live up to the hype surrounding them); after that, it seemed to me like the Cult of Tarantino dampened down to levels more appropriate to a film-maker of his skill level.

    There are certainly better directors. The pass Tarantino gets is that he can always pass off his weaknesses as simply a result of adhering to whatever “genre conventions” he’s working in. (As in “Oh, it’s just a Western, after all,” etc.)

  • EsusMoose

    Looking through all of your comments sheds some light why I may think he’s a little better than I should, I don’t really like rewatching movies. If I know a story rewatching usually bores me, so I don’t really notice the length of dialogue. Also on the too long, lengthy dialogue side I watched Tarkovsky’s Stalker which was interesting but too “deep”, artsy and lenghty that I nearly melted into my chair.

    • I find it’s good to wait a while before you rewatch something.

      • EsusMoose

        The movie has to usually have some elements that can be picked up during a second viewing for me to really want to see it again, I loved the Prestige for that reason and any movie that has a foreshadowed twist.

        • Man, that sounds lame.

          • EsusMoose

            I’m not too into movies so I’m not at a huge lost but the problem shows up in video games as I hate replaying games that emphasize a story that takes too long.

    • Most . . . no, wait–ALL of Tarkovsky’s movies have a similar if not identical effect.

    • KJM

      Never saw Stalker, but I love Solaris. Admittedly, I do find myself watching it in 2 sittings rather than one.

      • EsusMoose

        The tough thing about Stalker is that the first 45 minutes is in black and white with little to no speaking. The rest is 2+ hours of mostly monologues and lengthy conversations. Interesting but not the easiest thing to keep awake to at 3 am.

  • Spear

    “However, there is a certain tendency among 20-somthings, fresh to adulthood with the world at their grubby, privileged little fingertips, to confuse something that feels new with something good.”

    You know, I’d contend that a lot of the time, something that feels new is synonymous with something that is good. Good, like so many things, can be both fluid and subjective. I remember seeing Fight Club for the first time and being absolutely blown away. The dialogue, the cinematography, the acting; everything about that movie was, in my eyes, superior to what I had seen up to that point. I know now that it’s not the greatest movie ever, but to 17-year-old me, it was untouchable.

    I get the same feeling with music all the time. I still get excited when I find something new to my ears. For example, I’ve been raving about that Alkaloid album pretty much non-stop since its release. Is it the end-all be-all of progressive metal? Probably not, but in my limited experience, it’s easily one of the best I’ve heard.

    Totally forgot where I was going with this. More beer!

    • I don’t believe there is a greatest anything, ever.

    • nbm02ss

      Has Edward Norton ever been in a terrible movie?

      • The W.

        I liked him in that Hulk movie. Can’t think of any bad ones.

      • EsusMoose

        I never saw the Dictator so maybe that one but it was a cameo.

        • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

          I don’t remember seeing him in that one. I was the only one who liked that film, it seems. Sasha Cohen is pretty divisive.

          • EsusMoose

            I find borat to be humorous if I haven’t seen it in a very long time, never saw bruno, Ali G was passable. I just never got around to seeing the Dictator

          • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

            Ali G Indahouse was a masterpiece!

      • Spear

        I heard Death to Smoochy was pretty bad.

        • it was abysmal.

          • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

            Yep, it is!

          • Who would enjoy this film?

          • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

            Not even me, and I have some pretty low brow tastes at times.

          • Zeke

            fuck you all! I loved death to smooch! I’ve always identified with rainbow randolph

        • nbm02ss

          I forgot that movie existed.

      • Howard Dean

        Birdman.

        • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

          The new one? I was thinking about checking that one out.

          • Howard Dean

            Yeah, the new one. I wasn’t a huge fan, but a lot of people loved it, so might be worth it to see for yourself.

          • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

            Whenever I get around to it. Wolfcop is tops on my list right now.

          • Óðhinn

            Got quite a bit of acclaim. Haven’t seen it (yet).

    • Óðhinn

      I understand your point. Once you’ve been through film school, you realize that Tarantino’s narrative tools are usually not new, but that he borrows ideas from older filmmakers and auteurs quite often. The way Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs are edited out of sequence grabbed my attention in my early 20s but I didn’t consciously realize it. I now understand that this is part of the appeal in a more educated way.

      • Film School: the most pointless $30,000 (give or take) I’ve ever spent.

        • Óðhinn

          Wasn’t worth it huh? I suppose it also depends on the school, whether you actually enjoy the program, and whether it leads to anything afterward. My degree has come in handy.

          • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

            I think they need classes in porno music theory in colleges.

          • Óðhinn

            Or a degree in Porno Business Management. We’d have one too, if it weren’t for that dean who is always out to get us and our whole fraternity. Someday that dean will get his comeuppannce.

  • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

    One of QT’s films that he helped direct, that went WAYYYYYY under the radar, at least here in the States.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-TGaGa3QAc

    Crazy as fuck film, but fun as hell.

  • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

    Totally off topic, but had to share this GIF somewhere down the line.

    https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/kim-kardashian-coffee-machine.gif

  • JW(E)G

    The best thing, IMHO, that Tarantino ever did was (try to) help raise the reputation of Hard Core Logo outside of Canada. Beyond that, I have no strong feelings one way or another.

    https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7n4piKGt51qcuoflo3_r2_250.gif

  • Maik Beninton

    Guac you are not a director critic you are just a jaded guy that realized and said ‘hey, this guy use this too much’.
    Saying that Quentin relies too much on lengthy dialog and the theme of revenge is like saying that heavy metal relies too much on the guitar work and the dark feelings. While both are true doesn’t mean there isn’t more. He is an amazing director who can tell a great story without relieing on basic screen writing and basic scripts.

  • Stockhausen

    Me, watching Pulp Fiction the first time: OMG THIS ROOOOOOLZ
    Me, watching Pulp Fiction the second time: OMG I AM SO BOOORED

    • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

      It’s the one QT film I’ve never watched.

  • Howard Dean

    Nothing to do with the QT debate, but: My fuck was Salma Hayek hot in FDtD. Even though she was a changeling vampire beast, she was still a complete smoke show. Confession: I once sat through that piece of shit Bandidas movie because it costarred Salma and Penelope Cruz. Goddamn. Almost too much Spanish heat to handle.

    • NeverBlack

      You’re a man of taste, mister Dean!

    • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

      You should see Frida. Excellent film, and also Salma Hayek goes topless in it. It looked like an explosion at a glue factory in my pants when younger me saw that.

      http://i.imgur.com/IiDuy7D.gif

  • Óðhinn

    River’s Edge is underrated. Not Tatantino, but just sayin’.

    http://youtu.be/h4kb-3fR8ag

  • zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Harvey Weinstein–as head of Hollywood—-to receive Clinton govt funding—to create new pantheon of “politically correct” movies—–uses quentin terentino as “public face” of new censorship rules—-for movies————-> “the new Spielberg” for the new govt controlled movie industry–
    ————
    tarantino as talented up and coming film-maker—who was confronted with racist/anti sex agenda—-uses “long dialogue’ to try to justify strange turns of events-and unnatural “restraint” —-in new movies

    as hype kicks in——>certain boring actors from previous years are hyped as “superstars”—
    —-
    also every once in awhile—quentin is allowed to be “non pc’—so he overdoes it with the racism/or tries to use it to personalize his ego—-to “mold” audiences–to racial/sexual awareness—as to be enforced by agenda 21——to split people into social/racial classes–in a negative non redeeming way—-to create totalitarian/cps control grid—in an illegal takeover attempt on free peoples of the world

    the thought is……”this movie is supposed to be so great”—cuz he is doing something non pc—-but it is actually real boring————->the ‘”thrill factor” is supposed to be a psych release –from the Clinton inflicted censorship bondage—psychologically

    but natural human psychology—is not based on pc/non pc—-

    a failure of the u.n. /911 mindset——-to be looked back on historically—in a way similar to when hitler took over the german film industry
    —-
    war propaganda—against the American people—-inane—drivel

  • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

    So gotta ask what everyone’s top 10 favorite movies are. Mine (on a serious note, since I often add some of my favorite low brow films in there like Freddy Got Fingered and Deuce Bigalow European Gigalo):

    Black (the Indian film), Lea, Knowing, Cherry Blossoms, Captain Abu Raed, City Of God, Winter’s Bone, All About Lili Chu Chu, Paprika, Detective Dee And The Mystery Of The Phantom Flame

    • KJM

      Damn, that’s tough. I’ll probably edit this a few times but here’s what immediately comes to mind: The Exorcist, Alien, Blade Runner, Young Frankenstein, 2001, Halloween(1978), GoodFellas(QT is essentially a Scorsese wannabe), Apocalypse Now, Black Sunday(AKA Mask Of Satan), The Producers.

      • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

        Good picks! Will definitely disagree on the QT being a Scorsese ripoff, but that can wait for another time.

        • KJM

          I like QT, but Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction really are Scorsese movies with the volume turned way up.

          • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

            He knocked off 70’s blaxploitation and Australian grindhouse (which he’s admitted to) more than anything.

          • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

            Oh you!

    • Ravenous, Pacific Rim, Tron Legacy, Primer, Ghostbusters, Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure, Big Lebowski, The Avengers, Alien, Aliens

    • Sir Tapir the Based

      The Seventh Seal, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Winter Light, Pähkähullu Suomi, Viu-hah hah-taja, a Clockwork Orange, Red Dragon, Koeputkiaikuinen ja Simon enkelit, Life of Brian and Meaning of Life.

      • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

        Good picks, but I have no idea about the Finnish ones. As much as I love foreign films, oddly enough I’ve never seen any Finnish ones. Can you toss me some subtitled trailers?

        • Sir Tapir the Based

          I would love to, but I can’t find any. They are all comedies by the same guy, Spede Pasanen.

          • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

            I’ll try and check him out.

          • I can’t imagine you laughing.

          • Sir Tapir the Based

            And I cannot believe that it’s not butter!

          • Sir Tapir the Based

            also, it’s not really laughing. It’s more like me saying “ha, that was funny” in a monotone voice.

          • Lol! You >>>>>>>>>

          • Sir Tapir the Based

            Thank you, I’m here all week!

      • I searched for The Seventh Seal when you were simply Death <3 It was an ardous quest to look who was the bald white guy of the FFB commenter.

        • Sir Tapir the Based

          It’s undoubtedly my favourite movie of all time.

    • Óðhinn

      Altered States
      Once Were Warriors
      Naked
      Boogie Nights
      A Clockwork Orange
      Fahrenheit 9/11
      Dazed and Confused
      Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
      Magnolia
      Swingers
      River’s Edge
      Lord of the Rings (trilogy)
      There’s Something About Mary
      American Beauty
      Super Troopers
      Office Space
      Scarface
      American Pie
      12 Monkeys
      The Corporation
      Bad Lieutenant
      Who Killed the Electric Car
      Borat
      Hurlyburly
      Goodfellas
      Garden State
      Wild At Heart
      L.A. Confidential
      The Big Lebowski
      Mallrats
      The Fifth Element
      Fast Times at Ridgemont High
      Reservoir Dogs
      American Me
      Kalifornia
      Metal: A Headbanger’s Journey
      Baseketball
      True Romance
      Go
      American History X
      Man Bites Dog
      Short Cuts
      Roger & Me
      Blue Velvet
      Donnie Darko
      Slacker
      Clerks
      Ed Wood
      Taxi Driver
      Being John Malkovitch
      24 Hour Party People
      This Is Spinal Tap

      • Oscar Meyer’s Wiener Ate Putin

        Supposed to keep it to 10! :-p
        You know Super Troopers 2 is underway, right?

        • Óðhinn

          I do. looking forward to it.

          Toilet confession: I’ve never been very good at editing myself.

          • Oscar Meyer’s Wiener Ate Putin

            It’s a playlist, but here’s one of the favorites I mentioned, All About Lili Chu Chu. The soundtrack is fucking amazing as well. Enjoy!

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQjZKAtZbPo&list=PL1C6181EFBC481EBC

          • Óðhinn

            That looks good, thanks. The music is amazing. It has a Björk, Pink Floyd, Portishead vibe. I couldn’t tell exactly what it was though.

            The Director’s name (Shunji Iwai) is vaguely familiar to me from studying film theory. He has also directed a couple of other films, Love Letter and Swallowtail Butterfly, which are supposed to be quite good.

          • Oscar Meyer’s Wiener Ate Putin

            It’s Salyu. She does the entire soundtrack and the film was built around her. She is amazing!

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqYz0I_14eY

  • Hot Squirt Of Best Korea Love

    As per QT’s use of the N-word, I’ll put it this way. 90% of my friends back home in Southside Chicago, and they can tell you first and foremost I’ve used it around them without them getting pissed. It’s the most loaded word in the English language, and not one you wanna toss around on a regular basis. It’s not as loaded of a word if you actually bother to be around black people, not pretend to be black, and respect the culture. QT understands that, and one of my best friends and I watched Django Unchained back home, amidst the whole Paula Dean scandal. Did we get offended? Nope! We knew Paula Dean probably got more offended when Django got freed, lol. I’ve used the N-word many a time around my black friends, that’s simply how it goes in southside Chicago. Trust me, it’s a very fine line to skate, and many of that same 90% are friends to this day.

  • Count_Breznak

    Starting with Kill Bill all of his movies were too long for their own good.

  • OldMetalHead

    Nice article Guac. You make a lot of good points. Here are some of the things that make Tarantino movies enjoyable to me.
    1. He’s a fan boy of maligned film genres and has used his influence to make those types of movies.
    2. He uses great actors and has made/rejuvenated their careers.
    3. Liberal use of humor used especially with things that shouldn’t be funny. Although Sin City was pretty dark overall, the Tarantino directed scene was lol funny.
    I haven’t really found any of his movies tiring on the first watch.

  • JamesGrimm

    Yeeaaahhhhhh…..I hate Quintin, his fans, his style and everything he stands for. His films are very well made and he’s a fantastic director.

  • Matt Pike’s Sweaty Left Nipple

    You magnificent bastard.

    http://i.imgur.com/lNEg8.gif

  • CyberneticOrganism

    That Quentin Tarantino Is Bad At Talking To Black People video couldn’t be any more cringe-inducing than if he walked out in head-to-toe Rocawear and opened up with “What’s up my homies? Word!”

    http://cdn2.funscrape.com/Images/3/3068593673506535.jpg

  • Matt Boulton

    James Cameron is a better director than Tarantino.

  • George from Rainbow

    Do what I do and just watch Alien and Aliens back to back.

  • William Blake

    From Dusk till Dawn his saving grace? Seriously? I last saw that movie almost 20 years ago, and I still feel the urge to vomit every time I think about it

  • Jason

    Thank you Guacamole! It’s nice to know I’m not alone in thinking that about QT. I have watched only a few of his films only cared for a couple not enough to re-watch those. It really seemed to piss people off when Django came out friends sag it’s praises I told them it was utter shit.