Who the &$#@ is Metal Sanaz?

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“Um hello Facebook!? Don’t you know that there’s nothing more important than a woman with 0 talent who has the ability to make ALL other women look bad too?”Metal Sanaz

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Pictured: Masuimi Max having her naked titties licked by Metal Sanaz

Pictured: Masuimi Max having her naked titties licked by Metal Sanaz

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There is nothing more infuriating than feeling like I have to stand up for a Kardashian. NOTHING. But sometimes, someone in the metal community says something so incredibly stupid, I feel as if I have to say something. I hate hypocrisy. I hate seeing someone in our incestuous little community say stupid shit and not calling them out on it. Unfortunately, that stupid shit is about Kim Kardashian, and the person in question is one of the most irritating figures in our metal community; one Metal Sanaz.

Who is Metal Sanaz, you may ask? Well, according to her website…

“Sanaz has been a driving force in the metal industry since the year 2000. Using her Skill set, determination and exotic beauty to promote upcoming as well as established acts. Her goal…. to bring attention to artists who don’t receive the mainstream media exposure they deserve.

Breaking onto the scene as the founder and host of “MySpace: A place for Metal” Sanaz brought focus and illumination to literally thousands of acts via nearly a million and a half followers and fans of Metal music. Boasting over 70 Million views to her media content of hosted interviews and spot lighted videos, she has a record of reaching fans world wide that few can contend with.

A fact.

A fact made all the more impressive once you consider everything she’s achieved has been done through perseverance, determination and a true and pure love for Heavy Metal. She’s carved her niche without label representation, management or industry backing.
To put it in context and perspective she’s; “self made”, “self promoted” and “multi platinum”.
This however is not the end of her story, rather just what’s been written till now. There are old goals to finish,…. new goals to embark upon.

There will always be METAL and where you find it, you will find Metal Sanaz.”

If you’re still curious about who she is, this may help.

Metal Sanaz Bra

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Pictured: Metal Sanaz pointing at her ass

Yes, that’s right. Everyone’s favorite Lip Service model is a member of our metal community. Not because she’s a musician, but because she interviews them. Also, she is a model. So basically, she’s a big metal fan. Cool! We can always use more metal fans, right? Especially metal fans that dress in cute outfits.

But in the end, that’s what Metal Sanaz is. A metal fan who wears cute outfits. Her job is to wear cute outfits, to say cute things, to be cute. And she is cute! So it’s not wonder why she’s such a success. Which is why I found it rather strange that she would have the audacity to say something like this about Kim Kardashian:

“After clicking on it, I felt a shamed to be a woman and how low some people go for MORE of whatever they are after. Now it’s fine and great if some people loved it, I don’t care one way or another. But for me it was one of the top ten horrible things a woman could have done to represent woman. And I won’t even go into the rest of the reasons that are TONS that makes these photos just fuckin down right wrong… Just HOW LOWWWWW DO SOME GO?” — Metal Sanaz

I know, right? JUST HOW LOWWWW?

Sanaz and ladies

Pictured: Metal Sanaz grabbing a woman’s bare ass

What is the message, here? It’s cool to objectify women, but Kim Kardashian is different. Why is that, I wonder? Because she took a photo of her butt? Is taking fetish photos a better way to respect women? Look, this is heavy metal. We’ve got topless women (Butcher Babies, Huntress) on huge tours all over the place. I’ve never seen Metal Sanaz get distressed over a photo of Huntress with her giant plastic tits, but woah, hold the phone! A woman has a BIG NAKED ASS. That’s DIFFERENT. Because ASS.

What?

Is it really all that different? Or is it simply some body-shaming bullshit?

Lets be real, here. Metal Sanaz makes a living being practically naked, but nobody complains because she’s the Hollywood ideal; thin. If you gave her a big ass and a tan, how different would she really be from Kim Kardashian?

Because this:

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Is apparently way classier than this:

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Why? Is it only okay to pose in sexy photos if you’re thin?

Whatever. The point is, lets cut the bullshit.

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Pictured: Jill Janus’ bare ass

We keep hearing this argument from metal fans about why so many chicks in metal don’t deserve the fame they get. I get that. It’s not like we all don’t know that the Butcher Babies or Huntress wouldn’t be half as famous if they didn’t pose naked (unless you consider this track a work of art), and if you want to call them out on it, fine by me.

But you do not get to call someone out for selling sex when you do the exact same fucking thing. You do not get to pretend that you’re outraged by one naked ass when you’re perfectly okay with naked ass that fits your limited specifications. If Jill Janus pointed a finger at the Butcher Babies chicks and said “Ewww, they’re so gross! How could anyone post such gross photos of their naked boobs?” would anyone defend her? Probably not. So why are we pointing fingers at the Kardashian chick? Because she’s not thin, so her big ass is not okay?

We seem to be perfectly fine with tits and ass in heavy metal. Lets not pretend that we’re offended by them, elsewhere.

If you’re okay with seeing Jill Janus’ giant balloon tits, the Butcher Babies’ camel toe, and Metal Sanaz’ fetish photos, you do not get to bitch about Kim Kardashian. She’s no different than they are. They’re all paid to get naked.

And because I know how much you all love seeing these photos, here’s a reminder of what people are complaining about.

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I know, right? How incredibly offensive.

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  • Dan Burton

    I don’t know who any of these people are.

    • Edward, Goat Ov Void

      Not even Kim Kardashian?

      • Dan Burton

        Totally serious. I have no idea who any of these people are. I am aware of Kim Kardashian.

        • You aren’t alone.

        • CT-12

          Yeah, if you didn’t have a shitty local band myspace page from 2007-2010 you probably would have never heard of her

          • Dan Burton

            I also wasn’t aware that MySpace was still a thing since about 2006. I don’t ‘internet’ that well.

        • KJM

          I had no idea who this ‘Metal Sanaz’ person was until this moment.

          • Hubert, Goat ov Doom (and Void

            In This Moment?

          • KJM

            Nope, not her either.

    • Mook Styfawker

      If you’re being serious, you’re a lucky son of a bitch.

  • *flush* hypocrites…

  • I had no idea who metal sanaz was before reading this.

    • Mook Styfawker

      Neither did I! And I will not care after tomorrow!

      Also, the fuck is up with her cheeks?

      • Or that stupid blonde streak in her hair. I hate that look.

        • Edward, Goat Ov Void

          She’s not a bad looking lady imho.

          • Mook Styfawker

            Not bad at all, but those GOD DAMN CHEEKS MAN I’M SERIOUS.

          • silicone, maybe?

        • Its called the “Elvira,” Jack

          • Mook Styfawker

            FUCK, and I like Elvira. D:

          • It wouldn’t stop me from flipping this girl, either. #misogyny

      • Kim Jong Un Pardons A Turkey

        Meh, I can honestly say I’ve had better. She’s way too skinny, pale and overly made up for my tastes, and not exactly digging the chipmunk cheeks.

    • Edward, Goat Ov Void

      Me either.

    • I saw one interview of her to Arch Enemy, I think it was… Vulgar display of boobs

    • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

      I didn’t either and I still don’t care about her at all.

    • she’s not even attractive.

      • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

        I don’t consider her attractive either.

  • Mook Styfawker

    Good article, good points, good good.

  • Edward, Goat Ov Void

    Has Metal Sanaz promoted or broken out any noteworthy or great metal bands?

    • Not that I can tell.

    • Mook Styfawker
    • Kim Jong Un Pardons A Turkey

      In This Moment, maybe?
      I’ve never even heard of this chick before this article.

      • Edward, Goat Ov Void

        I dunno that I have listened to In This Moment. Not sure she promotes the kinds (and by kinds, I mean huge variety) of metal I know and enjoy.

        • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

          I suspect and speculate her kind is by and large In This Momemt kind

        • In This Moment might as well be called “Maria Brink’s boobs and some nu-metal bros”. i believe she chooses to do this, so i won’t fault her for it. i’ll just fault another metal blog for using them as a supreme source of clickbait 😉

      • (he said noteworthy or great)

  • CT-12

    This….this is an article I’ve been waiting for. Even though maybe not for this exact subject material, the feminist theme is something I think should be further explored throughout the toilet. Great write up Sarah, looking forward to more!

    • Keegan Lavern Still

      Seconded. It’s about time a dialogue related to gender and sex was started here. I’ve actually been thinking about writing something about the hypermasculinity that the metal scene seems to promote, as well as kind of mental health PSA for the lovely men (and everyone else) here. I’ll have to get on that now!

      • Edward, Goat Ov Void

        I would *love* to read an article about the mental health of metal fans.

        • “health” should always be put in quotations when referring to the mental fitness of metal fans.

          • Keegan Lavern Still

            And that will be one hell of an editorial piece. Only problem is narrowing down examples to pick out.

          • Yeah, i think the cup runneth over on that subject.

          • Mook Styfawker

            This made me laugh a little too much, maybe.

          • Unrelated, but Jim Gordon just replied to my comment on that NPR page ranting and telling the moderators that they should ban all our accounts that are from one person. Lulz.

          • lol. ahhh, jim gordon. that guy is relentless. we must have reallllyyy rustled his jimmy today.

          • I think we snapped his jimmy in half.

          • There is a gif somewhere that’s appropriate, but it might besmirch the good nature of this here article.

          • Im trying to repair his jimmy, but he keeps lolbuttzing himself

          • KJM

            One would think that National Petroleum Radio would appreciate a good coal roll.

          • another notch in the bedpost!

      • CT-12

        Dude, I’m not shitting you, I’ve been working on the same thing. Seriously, hit me up if you need any help. Feminism and egalitarianism are directly linked to men and masculinity as well and I’ve spent so much time into this subject. Hit me up if you’re interested.

        • Keegan Lavern Still

          Yes, we must collaborate for the sake of constructive dialogue and discussion!

          • CT-12

            You got a facebook? I figure that’d be probably easiest way of communicating without having to give our emails or anything.

          • Keegan Lavern Still

            Yep, my Facebook is actually linked to my Disqus account. I liked the Toilet Facebook page, and my name on there is the same as here.

          • Gvrp

            Daaaaayummm. This is some potential highbrow shit that I did NOT expect to see talked about on this website. I’ve been following the #GamerGate drama, but I didn’t think I’d see anything feminism-related popping up over here.

          • The anita sarkeesian drama?

          • Gvrp

            And the Zoe Quinn drama. And the Brianna Wu drama. There’s a lot of drama.

          • well.. the #GamerGate drama got a Wikipedia article. It would be a nice place to start reading. I’ve only saw bits of pieces on the anita stuff..

          • Gvrp

            This is a pretty good summary of the roots, told mostly through screencaps.
            https://storify.com/EffNOVideoGames/stopgamergate-it-has-always-been-a-spin

          • thanks, gvrp!

          • Gvrp

            No problem, Link. If you’re still interested, THIS http://deadspin.com/the-future-of-the-culture-wars-is-here-and-its-gamerga-1646145844 is the article that totally exposed GamerGate to me.

        • I think you can add the homosexuality variable, even when is more discussed than the feminism. Don’t you think?

          • CT-12

            I’m semi having difficulty understanding your comment, but I think I can get it to an extent. I think that’s one thing in society that is fucked and obviously part of the metal world is that being gay automatically means you’re less of a man. The only thing that makes you a man is a dick and balls, that’s it. And that’s another thing, haha, this whole idea that the media sells boys about “being men” is completely fucked up and stupid and it needs to be talked about more.

          • KJM

            Both Metal and Hip Hop have major homophobia issues. Unless you’re Rob Halford it’s best to keep it to yourself.

          • being gay in the metal community is probably much more accepting than being gay in the bro-rock community 🙂

      • KJM

        One of the many reasons I prefer Stoner/Doom stuff is that there’s very little of the chest-beating, big dick bullshit there is in other forms of Metal.

        • Me too. In fact, doom especially, is quite the opposite.

        • Hubert, Goat ov Doom (and Void

          Don’t forget the SKRONK.

        • Bands like Avatarium and Aluna affirm your point, mate.

        • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

          I like doom much more than other types of metal but I also like proto metal like Iron Butterfly and Blue Cheer which have serious ties to doom/stoner metal. When it comes to this sort of bro mentality metal that perpetuates the chest beating, big dick bullshit I hate that. There’s a few reasons I don’t listen to current music and that is among those reasons.

          • KJM

            ‘out of focus’ is THE JAM.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            That whole album is amazing. It’s one of the most important albums when it comes to the invention of heavy metal in my opinion. The others are the self titled debut by Vanilla Fudge, Heavy by Iron Butterfly and New! Improved! by Blue Cheer.

          • Lacertilian

            Proto-metal…do you like Brutus? I think they’re from Norway.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN0RYzgXbII

        • CT-12

          I think every genre has it’s positives and negatives. With stoner and doom, I tend to notice a lot of artwork centered around naked chicks and old school horror movie imagery that was exploitative for the day and still is now. But I digress, stoner/doom rules and is one of the more friendlier genres imo

          • KJM

            Also, many of the more popular Stoner/Doom/Occult bands(Blood Ceremony, Purson, The Wounded Kings,etc) have Female musicians in a more prominent role, especially Purson, and that’s a pretty refreshing change.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            *was refreshing for a moment, before it got oversaturated.

          • KJM

            Eh, the trendies will fade away like they always do and the good acts will remain.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            So it will be, but for now the good ones are getting pretty hard to find.

          • KJM

            Saturnalia Temple. Start there if you don’t know them already.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            Know. Love.

          • KJM

            They’ve got a new one coming out next year.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            Eagerly awaiting.

          • CT-12

            For sure dude

          • The Prophet Mohammed

            Electric Wizard, Acid King, and Blues Pills come to mind as well.

          • KJM

            Possibly my favorite release this year is by Occultation, another band that features women musicians prominently.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            I liked the Blues Pills album from this year.

          • The Prophet Mohammed

            Go to those same shows and many women in the audience are actually rocking the shirts with the naked chicks. It seems to be good harmless fun to the crowd.

          • CT-12

            And that’s okay, some people feel differently about it, some people plain don’t give a shit because they like the music. I just think if there’s gonna be so much focus on the spectrum of sexuality/nudity you either have it all (men, women of color, different body types) or you have nothing. Just my 2 cents.

          • KJM

            I’m an old school horror movie nut so that contributes to my love of the genre as well.

          • CT-12

            Hahaha same here dude, it’s painful. It’s funny how I got into these 2 scenes of horror and metal that have a lot of the same problems going on for them yet I can’t help it haha. But I guess that’s it man, is I shouldn’t shy away from either because they have shitty stuff, it’s up to people like me and you to help change the climates of both of these troubled genres.

          • CT-12

            By the way, any good horror movies you’d recommend that you’ve seen recently?

          • KJM

            That’s tough. The recent movies I’ve seen(Occulus, At The Devil’s Door, V/H/S:Viral) were all disappointing to me. The only movie that comes immediately to mind is ‘The Borderlands’. I’ll have to get back to you about this.

          • CT-12

            I’m good with old school too dude, I actually primarily watch old school horror but I like to try and bring up good newer movies too because I feel like new cinema and even Hollywood cinema is starting to pick back up and get better.

          • KJM

            Well, the last older movie I watched was ‘Curse Of The Demon’ from 1957. I also recently rewatched ‘Castle Of Blood’ from 1963. Barbara Steele FTW.

          • CT-12

            Nice man, I watched “Castle of Blood” a year or so ago and passed out before I finished so I should revisit it, also never seen “Curse of the Demon” though I’ve heard numerous recommendations, I’ll have to check it out. A good oldie I watched recently was “House of the Dead” AKA as “Alien Zone”

          • KJM

            The last 10 minutes or so of ‘Blood’ is excellent so yes, watch again.

          • though you weren’t asking me, i’ll tell you anyways. The Innkeepers frightened me to the core.

          • KJM

            Really? Except for ‘The Sacrament’ which was brilliant, I just can’t hang with Ti West’s movies. As a fan of English and Euro horror, I’m cool with a slow pace but his movies were slower than a sloth stuck in a tar pit.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            The 3D Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie scared the crap out of me even though it wasn’t a good movie. All those movies scare me, especially the first one.

          • KJM

            The 2nd one is one of the ex’s favorite movies.

          • CT-12

            The original second, or the remake of the second (good lord)? I wasn’t a huge fan of the 2nd TXCM, but I love the 3rd (goofy) and I think there was 4th with Matthew McConnaughey that he actually seemed fairly creepy in.

          • KJM

            The 2nd one was all about Dennis Hopper. Everything else was icing on the cake.

            McConnaughey, man was I ever wrong about him. Guess I wasn’t the only one who took a while to realize his incredible talent.

          • CT-12

            Agreed, Hopper’s a badass (as you could maybe guess from my pic) and McConnaughey as well though he’s been in some stinkers

          • CT-12

            Hmm, interesting, never heard of it, will check out!

          • KJM

            I’m also going to watch ‘As Above, So Below’ sometime tonight so if you’re about tomorrow, I can offer an opinion on that.

          • CT-12

            Sweet man, let me know!

        • The Prophet Mohammed

          My wife and I go to a lot shows together (especially stoner/doom) so we always talk a bit about women and metal. We’ve noticed that the NY metal shows have more and more women in the crowd every year and that the stoner shows have the most females. It seems that whole crowd is very respectful of the ladies and they just do a great job representing metal.

          • My old lady goes to almost every show I go to (and some without me), and they are typically stoner/sludge in addition to whatever I drag her to. Women are becoming acceptable, especially at the more mature shows.

          • i imagine it must be tough for the ladies at metal shows. a bunch of socially awkward dorks eyeing them up and down.

          • I imagine that is the case in most settings.

          • like Blizzcons in the 2000′?

          • The Prophet Mohammed

            Depends on the show. I hate to sound like an ass, but there are also plenty of females at shows that are just there to be seen as well. You know the type. Fishnet stockings, expensive leather boots, corset, looks at her cell phone the whole show, doesn’t have any band merch, seems annoyed to be at the venue, and is way more attractive than anyone else at the show.

          • Lacertilian

            Buying 72 tickets for your wives must be a pain though right?

    • Guacamole Jim

      Stay tuned.. I’ve got something in the works.

      • I’ll like to read. You write good and make good discussions, too

        • Guacamole Jim

          Awww, thanks man <3

  • Guacamole Jim

    This is an excellent article on a difficult issue.

    As a white, heterosexual male, I feel automatically like I’m not allowed to comment on such issues without inadvertently shooting myself in the foot (because I can’t possibly grasp my own advantage in life as a white, heterosexual male, and therefore will probably end up being offensive in some way); however, I am curious about the subject of female nudity. I see arguments flying around on all sides; some claim it’s demeaning towards women and reinforces the patriarchy and the objectification of women, and others claiming it’s empowering, and telling women to cover up reinforces the patriarchy and the subjugation of women. I see the merit to both sides of the argument, but they seem pretty mutually exclusive. Thoughts, anyone?

    • to me: those who defend the last argument are just making legitimate the use of the body for capital benefit trying to change the often estigmatized view of the objectification of women in this weird double-morality society.

    • CT-12

      How I see it, nudity is not inherently bad. Nudity can easily be done tastefully and artistically, but so much of the time it is centered around acquisition of the male gaze. I also don’t buy that “well, I’m just a sexual person” bullshit. Sexuality does not mean shoving your naked body in someone’s face all the time, and when you do that, it’s more so to please the other person than your own sexual desires. I feel like we’re gonna be here awhile……..haha

      • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

        This woman, as well as Butcher Babies and Huntress do sexual things for attention. I don’t have views on this matter but it does annoy me when women do sexual things for attention.

        • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

          To be fair, men do it a lot too. It has not been made into an issue as much (which it maybe should?)

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            I agree that maybe it should be. I don’t usually talk about issues like this so I don’t really have an opinion on this whole matter.

          • KJM

            While sexual exploitation of Men(or anyone) is a serious issue, it pales in comparison with that of Women.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            It does yes. I was just saying that there are buttloads of male sexploitation going on and most of it flies under the radar. And that by doing this men too are guilty of going “sexual” for attention.

          • KJM

            The “teen idol” craze of the early 60s was mostly attractive young men selling a safe form of sex to teenage girls.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            That whole thing still exists with such bands as One Direction and 5 Seconds Of Summer. I hate both of those bands and consider them a major reason of why pop must be hated but they are effective at what they do.

          • KJM

            It never really went away, just changed to fit the times.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            I’ll put this here. The male body picture in media etc. Isn’t any healthier than the female counterpart. Just. As. Wrong.

          • KJM

            If you don’t have six-pack abs and a chest like a bodybuilder, you might as well go home and shoot yourself. That’s the image being pushed on men.

          • #SwellintotheJammiez

          • LET’S BRING IT BACK!!

          • My swell is pretty weak right now. I’ve lost some weight and it has diminished my pump. I’m calling upon the swellest of the swole to step up and guide us to beefitude.

          • Howard Dean

            I’ve had a crazy couple of months and my workouts have been shitty. I’ve started watching videos of Bill Kazmaier throwing beer kegs and Ed Coan squatting on YouTube to get myself pumped for a return to the gym. Can’t wait.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            I’ve been doing a lot of running and I lost 25 pounds. The problem will be not gaining it back on Thanksgiving.

          • Tyree Wears Trailer Pants

            Beer keg workouts are the only kind of work outs.
            http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdmj05SP0T1ryqro2o1_500.gif

          • What you need, bro? I’M FUCKING SWOLE

          • We used to do a fitness column. I’ve been too busy to write it.
            http://www.toiletovhell.com/category/swellin-to-the-jammiez-2/

          • Word. Can I do it satirically but also informatively?

          • Give it a try!

          • YOU’RE NOT MY DAD, FINE I WILL@!

          • Actually, I think I can get into this.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            I hate that image. It’s used to discriminate men and I don’t think it should exist. In my opinion personality matters more than image but that ideology is dead. People only care about the most attractive people and if someone is nice but unattractive society shuns them.

          • CT-12

            Oh for sure, and there’s many more angles to look at it with men of the whole concept and societal pressure of “being a man”, being gay, if you have a small dick, etc.

          • CT-12

            The economics of shame

          • Bucket ‘o Blood

            Either that or you’re a young western European with boyish features, a cute haircut, and a good singing voice that always seems to be singing love songs.
            The entire Beatles/Elvis/One Direction- type artist concept is sexploitation to the max, selling impossibly cute young men to preteen girls. Fuck the music industry.

          • KJM

            To be fair, regardless of what your opinion of their music might be, you can at least say that Elvis and The Beatles had true musical talent. One Direction is all image and marketing with nothing of actual substance going on.

          • Bucket ‘o Blood

            That’s not entirely true. These bands, 1d included, are extremely skilled PERFORMERS. Sure, most boy bands today have absolutely atrocious music, written formulaicly, but you cannot deny that they have stage presence.
            Besides, not everybody needs to write the music the perform, and not everybody needs to perform the music that they write. The most famous violinists and ballettos in the world do not write their solos and choreography any more than boy bands (or pop bands in general), but it isn’t the music or the choreo that sells. Its the presentation and the performance.

          • KJM

            True, before the 60s most musicians made their names covering other peoples music. Writing/performing your own was pretty rare.

          • Bucket ‘o Blood

            Yeah, the necessity of bands writing their own material is as recent a phenomenon as the concept of an album of music.

          • CT-12

            I’m not seeing the picture (probably pop up in like 5 minutes), but you are absolutely 100 percent correct and we should talk about this issue soon.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            No pic. Just meant I’m going to say something socially not-so-accepted

          • CT-12

            Oh, ok, gotcha. And also I think this has less to do with social acceptance and more about people just not talking about it, so I’m glad we are now. I think a big part of this lapse in discussion about men/masculinity has to do with the notion society places upon men to know everything and rely on no one to help them figure out their problems.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            I will say that it is NOT socially well met here as a topic. Consider yourselves lucky if things are otherwise there.

          • CT-12

            Oh sorry man, I didn’t even think about the difference in where we live. Yeah man, that’s shitty, I hope some discussion starts happening for you in Finland.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            I hope so too.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            That image does harm people. Look at Frampton, he was considered a teen idol even though he was an amazing guitarist. His career fizzled as he grew older much like other guitar idols of the time such as Derringer, Pat Travers, Robin Trower and all of their ilk.

          • KJM

            Trower was never all that popular except among guitar nerds anyway.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            I still have no clue why Derringer was popular though. He was not as good at guitar as Frampton or Pat Travers and he wasn’t as attractive as Frampton but he still was pushed as a teen idol and sold out giant arenas like Frampton did. Now I don’t know the venues Derringer plays though Frampton still plays pretty big venues when it comes to my area.

          • KJM

            Rick Derringer does the state fair circuit now I think. Robin Trower played Colonial Theater in Boston recently which is a fairly big place.

            http://www.ticketmaster.com/seatingchart/8207/5323

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            I had no clue Derringer did state fairs now. He probably still makes money from it at least.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            Apparently Rick Derringer and Edgar Winter are going to a venue about an hour from me into Connecticut. I might go see them as the tickets aren’t that expensive unless I decide to go see Uriah Heep.

        • CT-12

          Looks like you do have views on the matter, I encourage you to explore information and figure out your own opinions on what you think of the matter. Otherwise though, yes, BB and Huntress eek out an existence by exploiting the looks of the women in those bands and turn them into faux-hypersexual beings.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            I don’t really talk about the matter much.

      • HessianHunter

        Why doesn’t sexuality mean “shoving your naked body in someone’s face”? I assume by that you mean appearing on stage or on magazine covers with a bunch of your body showing. Dudes are shirtless on stage constantly, partly because stages are hot but also because they look good, and they don’t get shit for it. Sex is a part of being human and I see no reason to be ashamed of it.

        • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

          I could defend that with, sexuality is not equal to nudity. Is there really grounds to pass nudity as being a sexual person instead of attention grabber? I mean a sexual person (all of us pretty much) has many ways of embracing sexualness besides just nudity. Sure some of it is expression of such, but all. Not a chance

        • CT-12

          I’m not saying to be ashamed of sex, I’m whole-heartedly against the shame industry that America relies on. What I’m trying to say is that being sexual does not inherently mean being naked or trying to appeal to another person. I know I may not be wording everything correctly here or getting all my points across, so bear with me if I’m not clear (with thoughts I’m trying to correlate as we speak), but being sexual and nudity doesn’t mean trying to garner attention and setting up an unrealistic standard of how a woman looks, especially when most of this is done just to sell products.

          • HessianHunter

            I will say that I love getting attention from people based on my looks. Not everyone is the same and that’s cool, but to me what you’re saying still sounds shaming of someone who legitimately desires attention because its fulfilling to them. It’s wack that magazines and TV only set up a certain body type as the “desirable” one, but that’s not Kim Kardashian’s fault, or any other model.

          • CT-12

            Yes, but Kim Kardashian, models, designers, and other people who pull the strings are at fault to a degree. If you have no control over your body type, then more power to you, feel free to do whatever, but many women involved in these “sexual” markets have undergone plastic surgery, use a ton of makeup, have photoshop teams altering their image, and/or do intense and rigorous body modification to fit into a predetermined role of what beauty is. This idea is pounded into the heads of women that they can only look a certain way.

          • HessianHunter

            You’re blaming the victim here. I refuse to fault someone for wanting to change because of societal pressures; to me blame lies solely with those who made her feel inadequate in the first place.

          • CT-12

            But she is now that societal pressure! I don’t agree with any of it; two wrongs don’t make a right.

          • HessianHunter

            Not quite; to me the way to solve the problem is not to tell thin and/or bootylicious women to put their clothes back on; instead, pop culture should simply be more inclusive showcase women of all body types being comfortable in their skin.

          • CT-12

            Hit the nail on the head, I’m not telling women to put their clothes back on, I want diversity and I want all people to feel comfortable. For me personally, and this may be where we centrally disagree, I don’t think this is the best way of showcasing sexuality as well. Getting someone naked for people to ogle at them is one of the only ideas of sexuality we have in society, and it’s generally geared towards men. Women have been proven to be less receptive to visual sexual stimulation as compared to men, so it’s a very one-sided playing field as far as sexual representation and what our ideas are on “sexuality”.

          • CT-12

            And I just don’t agree with using sex to sell a hamburger

          • Unless our very own @disqus_BSuJ96uFg3:disqus is doing it.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            Aren’t those who created the societal pressure people just like her. Doing what she does? Making the future generations feel inadequate?

          • Maybe like her or maybe not, but the ones that invented this system of sexualized marketing are genius! You have a perfect circle of comercial benefits and false image benefits as well.

          • KJM

            If you want to get to the root of this problem, google the name “Edward Bernays”, often referred to as the “father of public relations”.

          • THAT NAME! couldn’t remember his name!!.. I saw this documental: The Century of the Self… Pfffft, well documented and well argumented too. Thanks!

          • “those who manipulate the unseen mechanism of society constitute a invisible goverment which is the true ruling power of our country” – Bernays… That bastard…

          • CT-12

            Wow, that’s almost eerie how true it is and how someone could know they’re doing something so disgusting but look the other way because they gain power from what they do. Wow, dude….

          • you should watch The Century of Self. They explain how Edward Bernays came with the ideas of using psychoanalysis to persuade masses to the consvmism. It’s crazy, like KJM said: it’s more creepy than the conspiracy theorist, because you can see Bernays talking about how did he used Freud theories.

          • CT-12

            Nice man, I’m gonna look for it on youtube, sounds right up my alley.

          • KJM

            This shit is far scarier than any half baked “conspiracy” theories that keep people up at night.

          • Totally!

          • Howard Dean

            Nobody “invented” sexualized marketing. It’s an opportunistic response to an innate biological imperative. It’s about the most typically “human” thing to exist. It’s not like one day someone invented physical/sexual attraction out of thin air.

          • Of course, you’re right. But, behind that system there are theories and praxis that gives more meaning of the fact that all modern society is ruled by the market state, and the core of that system is use the psychoanalysis to control and bomb with propaganda our psyche.

            At least, all the critical school theories of social communication from 70 to now realize that the consumption of mass media content is biased and controlled by few elites that develop meanings through these contents, primarly, of sex/violence after the psychoanalysis unveiled the presence of a “subconscious” and “animal instincts”.

            With your pardon, I don’t think you can/should reduce all of that with the view of an “oportunistic response” of a determinate criteria. That would be a reductionism of, IMHO, a bigger scale problem that still perpetuates a capitalist/consumist system that is devastating a lot of regions in the world.

          • Howard Dean

            I’ve lost all interest in the “capitalism-market-consumerism” debate. It’s overdone, and frankly at this point, people generally don’t have anything new or interesting to bring to the table. It’s a given at this point that the market is controlled and manipulated by those with power. It’s a given that the market isn’t egalitarian and looking out for everyone’s best interest. It’s a given that the market is cruel, opportunistic, and predatory.

            But it’s also a given that humans like to have sex. It’s an imperative few can escape. We want to propagate our species and protect and proliferate our own genes. This predates agrarian societies and civilization. That sex is used by those with the eyes and initiative for prosperity in order to gain personal and professional advantage is not the fault of some “bigger scale problem.” It’s human nature on every level. “I want to do well. I like sex. I deduce my peers also like sex. I will use the allure of sex to my advantage.” That isn’t some evil capitalist agenda, that’s humanity!

          • I respect your point of view. Let’s just shake our hands and move on. Both postures were well argumented and we can’t continue to talk from now on without move in circles with the same points of view.

          • Howard Dean

            Agreed. *shakes hand*

            [listens to Destroyer 666]

          • HessianHunter

            This is only true if KK’s body type is the only one given special treatment by media. Popular media should include all body types in a positive lightlight; THAT’S the solution, in my book, not telling KK to not be naked in public.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            I’m with you on the solution. Arguing for the sake of it. I don’t see the solution as a realistic possibiluty. I don’t see it happening without another massive cultural change though. Makes me a little bit sadder.

          • HessianHunter

            Every journey blah blah single step yaddayaddayadda. Just be mindful of shit, have these discussions openly and publicly, vote wisely, and shit will get better.

          • CT-12

            And once again, even though me and you have been debating, we’re ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT IT, which is probably the most important thing here and once again why I must praise the author for bringing this issue up.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            I wish I could remain optimistic.

          • HessianHunter

            Remember that time for 200 years when it was legal in the U.S. to own dark-skinned people? And how you can’t do that shit anymore? We’ve changed BIG things for the better in the past, and we’ll continue to do it. All you need is persistence. The powers that be thrive on apathy; starve ’em.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            On a grand scale things work out better. Which is magnificent, but whenever I try to think about making a difference after time has taken me, I find myself not caring really. That is why I am saddened by the knowledge that even if I fight (and I do) the fruits will never be mine reap

          • Howard Dean

            Society: You should feel good about yourself no matter how you look! Embrace your inner and outer beauty! We are all beautiful! Love yourself even if you are heavy.

            Oh. But we also have a terrible obesity problem. So don’t be heavy. We need to do something about that problem because it’s a serious public health risk.

          • Tyree Wears Trailer Pants

            Like I said earlier, we need to fucking skin each other alive. Every one is hideous in the Void. No fucker should be beautiful, Only horrid!

          • KJM

            And you can look just like Kim if you buy her patented ASS CREAM! On sale for 4 low monthly payments of $99.99!! After all, you want to be “beautiful”, don’t you?

      • HessianHunter

        I don’t think it’s your place to judge on someone’s behalf if they are doing a certain thing strictly for male attention. Plenty of women dress minimally for female attention, or none at all: they just like their bodies and like showing them. I’m sure not going to “tut-tut” someone for doing something that incedentally is considered “sexy” if they appear to be having fun.

        • CT-12

          Once again, I think you’re focusing on me saying nudity, yet I’ve repeated that I don’t disagree with nudity or lack of clothing at all. I think anybody should be able to wear whatever they want. However, in media sources nudity and sex-sells tactics have been done in the dirt to sell products and turn women into decorations rather than acknowledge they are a human being.

          • HessianHunter

            I can get behind that. I keep harping on it because with your initial wording, you appeared to take issue with the nude model’s actions, not the business that exploits her comfort with her body to make other women ashamed of theirs.

          • CT-12

            I was more so just trying to give GuacJim a broad response as to how I feel on the issue, not a direct response to the Kim K thing. And there’s definitely a ton of variables that are impossible to wholly touch on when dealing with such a huge subject ie exhibitionists and voyeurs

        • I dress solely for male attention. “Yo brah, that’s a sick Harm’s Way shirt.”

          • KJM

            Yeah, pretty much. As progressive and forward as Somerville, MA is, you don’t see many people walking around wearing Blood Ceremony t-shirts. It’s a good conversation starter.

          • Tyree Wears Trailer Pants

            Fucking Anal Cunt shirts or Die!

    • Mook Styfawker

      My opinion is pretty simple: sex sells, just be honest about what you’re selling and don’t act like it’s anything more or less than sex. It might not be glorious, right, and/or profound, but when you’re honest about such a thing it’s a thousand times better than how most people handle the topic of “sex sells.”

      • yeah man, those Carl’s Jr. campaigns are completely self-aware. and that’s why i have no issues with them whatsoever.

        • CONANtheMotherFuckin’KING

          Man, i come here to read serious metal stories. Not look at pictures of near naked women. This is pornography pure and simple. I think i will quit going to metal shows if this is all that fans like. Bunch of perverts ya’ll are.
          And to bring everybody down to ground zero a pornstar without makeup.

          • Jason Menstruosa

            I am very thankfull that my girldfriend isn’t that ugly without make up (and/or photoshop). Maybe it is because she is not smoking that much crack. But thanks for sharing Conan.

          • CONANtheMotherFuckin’KING

            puts things in perspective don’t it. What you see ain’t always what you get. Yea, the new makeup they use in hollywood these days can remove any defect in your skin. Makeup and fake tits are like steroids, the people that have the big boobs and big muscles are actually cheaters at the game of life. I would rather stay small muscled than do it the cheaters way of roid use. Everyone knows when someone does it, they don’t fool anyone. A person can never test their true limits unless they play the game with what god gave em ( a figure of speech only, no belief or respect for any gods at all here)

          • “Makeup and fake tits are like steroids, the people that have the big boobs and big muscles are actually cheaters at the game of life”: amen, bro.. We should do a t-shirt with that and walk in front of the gyms

          • The Prophet Mohammed

            I loved the article that had all the porn stars with and without makeup. I always show pics like that when my wife feels bad about her looks and tell her how most women are this “attractive” if they have a team of stylists. Here’s one of my favorite makeup illusions of all time.

    • The Prophet Mohammed

      First, I am a male who proudly considers himself a feminist. I may find Kim Kardashian to be shallow and annoying, but I also find it
      brilliant how well calculated her career moves seem to be. Metal Sanaz on the other hand comes off as someone who is jealous over another woman who has found far greater success using her looks. She’s also trying to use the notoriety of a more famous individual to push her own career further. Most importantly, she comes off as a BIG HYPOCRITE after seeing all the photos of her wearing next to nothing. She did two things that are way worse than Kim Kardashian did, being a hypocrite and shitting on another female for personal gain.

      • CT-12

        I always have and still do have a problem with calling myself a feminist. I’ve heard so many people say what it’s about, and really, the terminology is outdated if you are talking about equality for all people (as some people have said that’s what it now means). I think Feminism mainly means fighting for women’s rights, so I can’t say I’m just a feminist. Egalitarian is the main term I use now, but I’m not afraid to say I’m a feminist because it’s the same as me being a supporter of civil rights, of the LGBT community, etc. It’s all a part of being an egalitarian. I know you weren’t asking for my opinion, just the subject of using the “f word” has been debated a lot in the community.

        • always offer opinions in the Toilet. i like the Egalitarian agenda as well. for once i dated a so-called feminist who refused to ask a guy out or ever make “the first move”… among other oddities about gender in society. i was like “guh?”

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            A few years ago I made a song about egalitarianism. ‘Twas a mere joke along the lines if “You’re all the same to me, I hate you all equally”. Somehow it has since sort of become my view on the possibility of achieving equality truly.

          • CT-12
          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            😀 I do ‘t hate everyone. I just don’t see equality happening if by equality you mean anything else than hating everyone with the same ferocity.

          • CT-12

            Hahaha hey man “shit comes in all hues”, I just love that song

          • KJM

            My birthday(April 14) will now forever be known as the day Peter Steele died. Ugh.

          • CT-12

            Damn, that sucks dude, but feel better, a guy at my work’s birthday is September 11th. I always joke with him, “they say ‘never forget 9/11’, yet everybody forgets your birthday” haha

          • Lacertilian

            Slayer lyrics?

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            Not intentionally at least

          • CT-12

            Yeah, see, and that shit is not feminism and I think with how popularized that term has become now a lot of people misinterpret it’s meaning. I’ve especially seen a ton of women (though not just women) who have thought “Oh, I’m a woman, so I’m a feminist right?”, which is completely untrue. The only thing I could understand about that lady is her being a nervous Nelly like our buddy Death.

          • The Prophet Mohammed

            I kind ov feel the feminist movement was misunderstood/misrepresented by the media. To me, feminism was always about if women are getting a fair shot, so is everybody else.

          • CT-12

            For sure dude, and so the scene’s definition has been so muddled with numerous people’s theories that it’s sometimes hard to wade through the bullshit. Also, laughed at the “ov” that was thrown in casually to a serious comment haha

    • Death

      Die cis scum!

      • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

        So you ARE a transgender person!

        • Death

          No. My theory is that I’m an asexual scum.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            Close enough.

          • In this episode of ToH Investigates: we are trying to uncover the secret sexual life of the Death. Next episode: we’ll be researching if he likes beans or spaguetti.

          • Death

            I like both.

          • Another case solved!

          • CT-12

            Corn flakes crispy or soft?

          • Death

            I don’t eat corn flakes.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            More investigative journalism: Can you see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

          • Death

            Nope.

          • Lacertilian

            I am on a vendetta against overly crunchy cereals.

          • CT-12

            Like Cap’n Crunch AKA Box of Razor Blades?

          • Lacertilian

            We don’t have that brand/flavour here.
            I used to deliberately soak it in milk for a few minutes before eating to soften it.
            Now I see ads all the time boasting of new crunchier recipe, fuck that shit.

          • CT-12

            New! Plastic Cap’n Crunch is the future, extra crunchy!

          • Lacertilian

            mmmm, taste the hydrocarbons….it’s Polymerrific!

          • CT-12

            hahahaha!

          • Lacertilian

            more like HCHCHCHCHCH
            /ChemistryGag

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            How can you like beans but hate Oreos? Do you hate eating cookie dough as well?

          • Death

            Cookie dough is great, oreos suck. Beans are love and life. Same goes for cauliflower.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            How about pineapple on pizza? What is your view on that?

          • Death

            While I don’t hate it, I prefer it without pineaple.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            I love Hawaiian pizza. Combining pineapple and ham on pizza was the best idea they had since the original Hawaii Five 0.

          • Death

            Kebab on pizza is fucking great.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            Never tried that. Is that a thing in Finland?

          • Death

            If I remember correctly, kebab is Turkish. Turkish immigrants brought it to Finland and it’s popular here. It’s fucking delicious.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            The only places that really have kebab near me are New York City street vendors and I don’t eat street vendor food unless they sell hot pretzels. I love hot pretzels.

          • Death

            You have to try kebab, matey. Life without kebab is not a life worth living.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            I have made kebab before but I haven’t had it in a while. Gyros on the other hand I love to eat and I eat them whenever I can find a place that sells them.

          • KJM

            Shawarma, just sayin’.

          • KJM

            I can only eat that during Summer. Any other time of year feels wrong.

          • Lacertilian

            had a good create-your-own the other day.
            Tomato base, bacon, pepperoni, pineapple & chicken w/mozarella.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            That does sound good. I go to this place in Connecticut sometimes that makes the best meat lover’s pizza.

          • Xan

            I’m right with you. I can’t stand people enough to live with one my entire life. I just want to come home, drink milk, and play video games until I fall asleep. #livingthelife

          • Death

            Milk is nice. People are not. Dogs are real friends.

          • Xan

            Dogs are metal.

    • Gvrp

      #chekt

  • David Vincent on Tinder

    Wait, who are you Sarah Lafayette? Hai!

  • Kim Jong Un Pardons A Turkey

    Who?
    On a side note, have that one little piece of brown sugar bathed, lubed and brought to my chambers/labor camp of love! Chop chop!

  • Dental_Damnation

    Metal Sanaz? Wow talk about a blast from the past. Peers in bands would put her in their MySpace top friends list all the time and I never got why…..still don’t.

    • KJM

      Lolbuttz to be sure.

    • geigerbuttz

      • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

        Gigerbuttz

        • i am shameful for that misspelling.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            I thought it was intentioanal. Radioactive nottoms makes more sense than H.R.Giger adorned bottoms.

  • In all honesty, I had no idea who this broad was until I read this article. I approve of sex in all forms (this is widely known), but I hate double-standards. I dont know who you are, what-i-assume-is-a-woman-who-wrote-the-article, but you make valid points. This might call for a coal-rolling of epic proportions.

  • Trailerpants ov Steele

    Metal Santa? Metal Sneeze? Anywho, if you want to know of someone worse, look up Ladies of Metal(core).

    • i can’t do it, won’t do it. i have a feeling you’re trying to trick people.

      • CONANtheMotherFuckin’KING

        my standard for a woman ? Low i guess.

        Plain jane with a pussy who is interested in music.

      • Trailerpants ov Steele

        Do it if you want something to get mad at.

  • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

    Am completely fine with a woman or a man objectifying her/himself.

    If there was but one thing that boiled my blood(mind you there are plenty) it would be hypocrisy in all it’s forms and derivatives

    On that note, who is she? Really? And who has she promoted to fame?

    • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

      And there is a new Napal Death song streaming, which relieves anger by rechanneling it nicely.

    • Kim Jong Un Pardons A Turkey

      “On that note, who is she? Really? And who has she promoted to fame?”

      https://31.media.tumblr.com/34a97e0787c7bdee1247ea0729d8e1ff/tumblr_inline_nf0lcgOrGN1qm1zhy.gif

      • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

        I don’t think anyone really knows

        • Kim Jong Un Pardons A Turkey

          A legend in her own mind, I guess. The part I find dubious is that she said there were 70 million people on her Facebook. Were there even that many people on there, even in it’s ever so brief heyday?!

          • Nordling Rites ov Karhu

            There’s only 95k…

  • Trailerpants ov Steele

    Honestly, I’ve seen this happen a lot before. Someone complains about something someone else does and then every other personality whether it be radio, band, politician, etc seem to latch on to the criticism. Kinda like a domino effect. I don’t see any other reason to really care or give two shits about Kim Kardashian being Kim Kardashian other than you would want publicity. What’s the point of hating something that everyone else hates? By that logic it’s not really a threat to you in any way, shape, or form.

  • btw, thanks for bringing this subject! 🙂 very good wrote! (look: mr. detective i’m learning english with the toilet!)

    • He’s so good that I can’t tell if he’s rolling us.

      • Mook Styfawker

        He’s rolling us alright. Rolling us right down the hill! 😉

        • MoshOff

          *Right down the coal

          • Mook Styfawker

            GOD-FUCKING-DAMN-YOU.

          • you’re welcome! 🙂

          • MoshOff

            I’m Spanish, like from Spain. Can we be friends?

          • Hubert, Goat ov Doom (and Void

            LOL UR MEXICAN!?

          • I’m from Venezuela. Cuál es tu nombre en Facebook para agregarte? He agregado a varios de los usuarios de acá y son muy buenas personas.

          • WHAT DAT MEANS

          • Subtitulado en inglés por Leonhart: How’s your Facebook name, to add you? I’d add some of the users here and they’re good people.

          • CT-12

            I know a little bit of Spanish myself, though more of the Mexican variation, so I wasn’t really taught the -ias endings. I’d really like to actually speak it because it was my first language when I was kid, but then I moved and had to learn English and never kept up with Spanish. Happy you’re getting you’re practice in man!

          • Thank you, bro. I’m self-taught by music and videogames, so that’s why I struggle a little with irregular verbs. I studied a lot of spanish in my college, so I tend to think in spanish then traduce to english, and that’s a disavantage because those two structures changes a lot.

          • Hubert, Goat ov Doom (and Void

            I learned English through video games and movies (I’m Dutch). It’s quite jolly how much I’ve learned from that.

          • awesome, my friend 🙂 movies were also part of my “studies” too

          • CT-12

            For sure dude, after trying to learn other languages, I’ve realized how fucked up and hard English would be to learn for a non-speaker

          • I’m pretty sure its well-known how difficult English is to learn for non-native speakers. That’s why i always find it amazing that so many (hispanics, especially) have acquired it so well (that is to say, dont let most latinos fool you, they know way more English than they let on). +1 for all of you, non-native engrishers

          • thank you, ex-pirate/now former jedi

          • KJM

            I can count to 40, ask what time it is, introduce myself, and a few swear words. That’s about it.

          • ABRAZAR EL VACIO

          • CONANtheMotherFuckin’KING

            And still dudes on here are turning their noses up on truckloads of beautiful girls. Boy, i wish i had the latitude to do that ! Damn, they only want to go out with the virgin mary, it would be funny if it were’nt such a bold faced lie.

          • Kim Jong Un Pardons A Turkey

            Same with me when I moved from Puerto Rico. I speak it ok, but lol there was a reason me and my one GF from Colombia kept to English! :-p

          • MoshOff

            Mejor encuentro una vía más segura para agregarte, prefiero el semi-anonimato jeje.

          • Sure. Look for me in Twitter, then. The same nickname.

          • MoshOff

            Added. If that’s your real name, your parents are cool.

          • Gvrp

            I’m half Cuban and a quarter Puerto Rican, but I’m totally whitewashed.

          • I think we’re all proud here of out roots. Even me, with these atrocious venezuelan history I can say that I’m proud to born in this country.

          • Thanks for the subtitulados en espanol, Leonhart

          • jajajajajajajaja, wtf didn’t realize the subtitles.

      • with that hood I imagine your voice like a serpent: yess, embrraze da void, my child

    • Trailerpants ov Steele

      Now you can safely say you learnt English from the Toilet.

      • i’ll put that in my curriculum vitae!! spanish: native/english: learnt in the Toilet ov Hell.

        • Kim Jong Un Pardons A Turkey

          First there was Rosetta Stone, now there’s new and advanced Toiletta Stone!

          • CT-12

            By the way, total +1 for your username haha

          • Kim Jong Un Pardons A Turkey

            *takes a bow and unleashes a SBD (silent but deadly)*

    • *learnding. but you’re doing better pal!

  • *standing ovation*
    <3
    I am glad someone called her out on this.

  • Zapp Brannigan

    Kif, remind me to bookmark this page!

  • Tyree Wears Trailer Pants
    • MoshOff

      Hands down funnest show I’ve seen in my life was Rompeprop, good stuff.

      • Tyree Wears Trailer Pants

        I really want to see them! MDF never picks them up though.

  • MoshOff

    I, for one, like Kim Kardashian’s bass frequencies.

    And yeah, whoever that woman is (never heard of her), she’s a total hypocrite

  • Hubert, Goat ov Doom (and Void

    Who’s the author of this article? I haven’t seen her here before.

    • CT-12

      Probably a lurker

    • Zapp Brannigan

      She could be anybody, even an alter ego to one of the usual authors. A very sensual alter ego.

      • Can confirm the author is a woman. She has chosen to keep her identity under wraps doe.

        • Mook Styfawker

          Lest she be swarmed by the undersexed masses of the metal community. /stereotyping

          • David Vincent on Tinder

            I admire her bravery.

        • Wise move, by all accounts.

        • CT-12

          It’s completely understandable. Thankfully she’s posting in a smaller and more progressive blog so she’s variably safe from harassment. I think we’ve all seen numerous people in the same position on bigger sites/blogs get attacked enough to know the threat of harassment is very real in this day and age.

          • YEP. I really think we’ve created a non-knuckle dragger community here but author concerns gotta come first.

          • Kim Jong Un Pardons A Turkey

            Thankfully she chose here rather than Metal Sucks. Axl’s response at even getting that close to a woman:

            http://media3.giphy.com/media/GarLNhss8zIkg/giphy.gif

          • ^^ My response as well.

          • Lacertilian

            I create communities every afternoon.
            I remove them with tissues and then *FLUSH*, into the void.
            Sorry, I had to do some knuckle-dragging.
            *Quells simian-self with soothing beer*

          • Further Down the Metal Hole

            Commendable attitude Mr. Kill.

    • Louisiana Darkness

  • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

    Some people can’t be the change they want to see in the world so they just hypocritically whine about. It’s like, the human condition or something. Also, does anyone else look at pictures of people like Kim Kardashian or this Metal Sanaz lady and get totally put off by the thought that they’ve probably never set foot inside a library of their own free will?

  • Tyree Wears Trailer Pants

    We need to skin each other alive. Skin is overrated, hail the ugly and excruciating Void. Every one is hideous in the Void.

    • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

      Someone should write a totally light, sweet and funny romantic comedy script and then just film it all with people with no skin but not mention it at all in the advertising.

      • Tyree Wears Trailer Pants

        Shower those skinless fucks with salt and brutal citrus. They need to all suffer into the fucking Void.

        • Tyree is rampagening today

        • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

          Nothing is real! The void is not real! For! The void is not!

          • Tyree Wears Trailer Pants

            The Void is very fucking real. Your time will come and when it dose the void will embrace you and you will suffer into it for eternity.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            Void = Emptiness = Nothing.
            Therefore the void is not. Only the void is real therefore nothing is real. The might and magic of syllogism.

          • Tyree Wears Trailer Pants

            I’m ending it all. The Void calls for me. *Grabs keys, drives home, and opens a cunting beer.

          • Death

            There is no way of surely knowing if the void is real or not. Us humans are too stupid and ignorant to receive that kind of knowledge.

          • Tyree Wears Trailer Pants

            Philosophy is fucking dumb. Hail nothingness aka the Void.

        • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

          I’m more into suffering unto Truth myself.

      • Tyree Wears Trailer Pants

        Forever burn in Hellfire.

    • Kim Jong Un Pardons A Turkey
  • Celebrity worship of any kind, shape, or form is fucking ludicrous idiocy. Shut off your cable television, avoid gossip websites, remove any facebook friends that find the need to spread this filth. Quit consuming and perpetuating this shit. These people are worth no more than any one of us, and no less.

    Obligatory embrace the void, and fuck everything.

    • Hubert, Goat ov Doom (and Void

      #STAY EMVOIDED

    • MoshOff
    • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

      I hate the celebrity culture as much as you do. The Kardashians are sickening people and I hate all television except for a comedy on Fox and a sitcom on NBC. I prefer listening to music and being here than sitting in front of a TV consuming its garbage.

    • That’s right. You’ve just gotta shake off the negativity.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM

      • Why, Joe!? Why!?

        • Death

          Because he’s evil.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan is #teamedw

            Taylor Swift is one of my least favorite people ever. This song is a major reason for that.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            Et tu, brute?

          • Death

            I expect nothing good from you, but you still manage to disappoint me. I think I have to revoke your Finn card. We’ll get a boat to Estonia ready for you.

          • Estonia = Canada?

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            Almost

          • Off Off-topic: How do I get beerhands, mr bear?

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            One hast to try. It takes patience for years my young padawan. And many, many, many beers

          • Death

            Canada >>>>> Estonia. If you breath the Estonian air, you’ll get every STD possible. Even ones that have not been found yet.

          • Sounds like my kind of place.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            Narva is a fun city to start with

          • Death

            There’s cheap booze and hookers everywhere in Estonia.

          • SOLD

          • Death

            There’s also the constant fear of Russian invasion over there.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            I’ll say it again Narva. A city-size red light district meets cocaine alley. With far less class

          • Its like #voidheaven

          • Look at all this Estonian racism.

          • Death

            It’s part of the Finnish culture to hate your neighboring countries (maybe not Norway).

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            I’ll gouge their eyes out and play Chinese acupuncture on their balls to get back. I’m not going to russia. Soviet Finland is much better.

          • Well, there’s always NewFinland

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            I’m booking a flight

          • Death

            Estonia is not Russia… yet.

            Tere tulemast

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            It was and will be before this is over. Even greater chances of losing it’s so-called independence than Funland.

          • Death

            I don’t believe that Russia will invade us. There’s really no reason for it. Also EU and NATO should come to our aid.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            I don’t think there is a need for an invasion. We are econimcally bound worse than most. And it’s not Russia I am most scared of.

          • Death

            I’m afraid that Kokoomus or Persut will win the next elections.

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            They propably will. Unimaginably disturbing how poor (not rich/elite) are voting for Kokoomus when their agenda is basically “Fuck everyone but the rich”

          • Death

            Do you know how Kookomus celebrates christmas? They travel around Finland pouring gas on poor people and lighting them on fire. Then they sodomize each other with their money.

          • I do that every other saturday

          • KJM

            Welcome To America.

          • *Welcome to NewFinland

          • Nordling Beerhands Karhu

            I did wonder where did that huge whitehead eagle come from.
            I suppose I ought to call it a bald eagle now.

          • Guacamole Jim

            And also you guys will kick their asses again.

          • Death

            We never really kicked their asses.

          • Guacamole Jim

            Well, you did in the sense that you stopped their invasion by using cross country skis….

          • Death

            Stalin only wanted to push the Finnish border in case of German attack. He managed to do that. If he would’ve wanted to invade us, he could have done it.

      • </3

      • The Prophet Mohammed

        Please refrain from posting videos of pancake ass again. Thanks Joe.

    • #KeepCalmAndEmbraceTheVoid

    • Death
      • CT-12

        FUCK YES!!!

    • hey look @zackmuenz:disqus, there’s Thomas Giles!

    • KJM

      Ditched FB back in 2010, no regrets. Twitter only.

      • I ditched FB at least that long ago, no looking back. FB only brought me problems and drama. Last.fm is the sole remaining social networking site I have (except this, really)

    • Ann, are you logging in on Guest accnts and upvoting the coal roll from earlier? If not, we have guests upvoting our #COALFACING.

  • Matt Pike’s Sweaty Left Nipple

    I’ve never heard of Metal Sanaz. I give 0 fvcks about Kim Kardashian or her ass. I agree with the author of this article about Metal Sanaz’s hypocrisy. But I also don’t really give a shit about any of this, I just wanted to leave a comment on my favorite blog. Yay me!
    Carry on, fellow Flushers.

    • Gvrp

      Stay stiff, Left Nipple. Stay Void.

      • Matt Pike’s Sweaty Left Nipple

        Always.

      • …Ellipsis…

    • Howard Dean

      This is pretty much my opinion, too. I don’t really care. It might be cvntingly apathetic of me, but I don’t care.

      • Matt Pike’s Sweaty Left Nipple

        There is no caring in the Void.

  • zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  • *finishes reading, goes back to listening to metal*

  • amazing article, Sarah! keep it up plz. while i do love the circlejerking we do in the Toilet, every now and then some trvthful discussion is just what the doctor ordered. this is probably the only metal blog with intelligent commenters who are capable of having healthy and respective discussions.

  • Sera Timms >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    http://youtu.be/JEQsNxpYXYM

  • Gvrp
    • Yeahhhhhhhh, we kinda already burnt that chvrch down earlier

      • Gvrp

        This is another one, though.

        • I’ll go if #JimGordon is there.

          • Gvrp

            Ah, doesn’t look like it. Not a lot of comments. I’m going to keep an eye out for him, though….

  • Mother Shabubu III

    Was she the one with that show Uranium?

    • CT-12

      Nah, different lady, Juliya something

      • Mother Shabubu III

        Oh that’s right! Sorry, they look a bit alike.

  • FeelTheDarkness

    I wonder what she thinks of the Motherload video and all those asses?

  • #PUNLYFE

  • Further Down the Metal Hole

    This is an article I never expected to read on the terlet, however the community here is one that should cause an exciting debate over such issues. Really like the article, definitely would enjoy more in this vein.

    Never heard of Metal Sanaz before but indeed, she’s a hypocrite.

    As for my personal opinion on the matter, if someone is capable of making their own decision as an adult and chooses to bare their body for attention or even money making reasons, it’s up to them. As long as it really is a product of free will and they don’t feel forced to do so, which I guess is also what this discussion is about (can’t be/sell something without sex etc.).

    I don’t think people will ever be able to agree on one single stance regarding this issue: some will find it offensive, others won’t and it’ll probably always be that way.

  • KJM

    I look up and down this thread and see nothing but intelligent debate and some good natured humor on this issue.

    As many of our favorite musicians would say “Give yourselves a round of applause”. You deserve it.

  • Jason Menstruosa

    She must have been heartbroken when Myspace went down the drain.
    A fact.

  • CyberneticOrganism

    Well-made point here, I’ve seen the ‘Metal Sanaz’ name forever but never knew exactly what she did.

    “I’M OFFENDED WHEN WOMEN BARE THEIR BODIES ONLINE!!1”

    *bares body online*

  • dan

    Audience makes a difference here.