Washington Think Tank with W.: What’s heavy?

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Thank you, little worker bees, for your industrious and insightful answers to my question last week. Your responses were quite informative, and I appreciated the humble candor. However, you can’t stop progress, so my Illuminati handlers associates and I have another question for you. Please turn your attention to this new endeavor and serve your country like a good taxpayer.

Today’s Question: What’s heavy?

As fans of heavy music, I’m operating under the assumption that you are better equipped to answer this question than anyone else. Lately, I’ve found myself exploring more diverse forms of heavy music and indulging all sorts of weirdness. There are definitely elements of noise, folk, and ambient soundscapes in some of the bands I have most come to enjoy lately. However, each of these bands typically falls under the umbrella of heavy music. So, what makes a song heavy?

Do driving double-bass rhythms and blast beats make a song heavy, or do only caveman rhythms get your head banging? Are drop-tuned guitars heavy, or do you need a blistering chromatic run to feel the pressure? Do guttural growls crush you, or do you need visceral shrieks to be reduced to pulp? Does a wall of sound reduce you to a quantum singularity, or do you like to hear every little fiber in a rich tapestry of music to truly appreciate the heaviness? What does it for you? What do you think is heavy?

Sound off in the comments below.

Don’t know what the Washington Think Tank is? This is a weekly column where your former President poses a pressing question and allows the top minds at the Toilet ov Hell to investigate his query.

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  • Mother Shabubu III

    There’s heavy, then there’s the Melvins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTHz8-wmAIM

    • Mook Styfawker

      Ah, Boris. Such a lovely little tune.

    • FeelTheDarkness
      • Fart Johnson

        I saw the Melvins at tiny hole in the wall called the Cat’s Cradle in Carrboro, NC in 2001. They closed with Hung Bunny/Roman Bird Dog and chunks of the ceiling started falling down, rattled loose by the overloaded PA. My eyeballs didn’t stop vibrating for three days afterward.

    • Gorgasm

      Super bummed i didn’t find these guys until 6-7 years ago.
      My favorite Melvins song.
      http://youtu.be/tzYxl_BUCao

      • Mother Shabubu III

        I found them around the time “(A) Senile Animal” came out, but I really didn’t understand it or them at the time. Recently I’ve been in a huge Melvins kick and just in time as well, they have a new album coming in October!

        • I still have the cassette for Houdini!

          http://instagram.com/p/nowLV3vdsP/?modal=true

          • Mr.CustodialArts

            Jay, you and I could trade cassette pics all day! Nice job being kind and rewinding.

        • Mr.CustodialArts

          The best shit is usually the stuff you don’t “get” at first…MELVINS kicks are the best! Just caught Buzzo’s acoustic set-it was pretty amazing.

    • FeelTheDarkness

      I think everyone who likes/loves heavy music should see the Melvins at least once in their lives.

    • FeelTheDarkness

      This was the first album I heard from the Melvins and never looked back.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHAt0lnvSmA

  • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

    Heavy as heavy can get…….it’s all about the riffs……

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHISn_DCmc0

    • KJM

      Dat riff.

    • Mook Styfawker

      Anyone can say what they want about Sabbath and Ozzy, but no one can deny that that album is solid gold.

    • Mithrandir

      Exactly the song i was gonna put here… Heavy as motherfucking fuck. By far my favorite Sabbath song.

    • FeelTheDarkness

      Black Sabbath to me is what heavy is all about. Yeah some bands before Sabbath had a heavy song here and there but Sabbath made heavy albums.

    • tylerusmaximus

      All hail Iommi. I love the riff from Cornucopia too.

  • Mother Shabubu III

    Then there’s more direct heaviness, sustaining it with a thick atmosphere of crush-itude. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9mDNNiyk8I

    • Tyree

      Oh man! I got this on my wishlist. Need to buy now!!!!

  • Negrodamus

    I find the beginning of this track to be quite heavy, it is the standout on the album for me:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg6bWoH_aUU

    • W.

      the last two or three minutes of Forgotten Arrows are abominably heavy.

      • Max

        Yes, but that album has moments like that all over it.

    • enemies of compassion for this beat cop.

      • Oh my god that fucking riff. You know the one.

    • Scrimm

      I can’t pick a favorite of that album. But as for favorite Gorguts song… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNcyREX5I1o

  • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

    ……heaviest band ever

    • KJM

      Fulci FTW.

    • Negrodamus

      CONAN, you’re here early!

      • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

        yea, i had to do some banking, so i didn’t sleep til 3:30 today.

        • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

          …….

    • Tyree

      The song Zombie Apocalypse is a heavy motherfucker.

    • Pierre Generic

      Mortician’s cool for their love of horror films and also because they seem to piss off humorless Death Metal fans(a redundant term if there ever was one). Mortician uses the same Cookie Monster vocals and gore-drenched lyrics as most DM bands but they’re considered shit for some reason. The drum machine maybe?

      • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

        they play with a live drummer for shows though. They live their shit.. I have learned more about underground horror from listening to mortician than i have from any other source. Plus rahmer is just fucking cool. He could kick the shit out of king 810 without breaking a sweat.

    • Mr.CustodialArts

      “His vocals sound like a stone moving to reveal a secret passage.”-Buddy of mine YEARS ago…still makes me laugh. Have you heard that dude’s speaking voice? NOO YAWK.

      • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

        hahhahah, yea that is a good description. When i play mortician for someone i’ll ask what do you think the guy who is playing/vocalizing this looks like. They will either have no idea or describe rahmer perfectly. Never have heard him talk, if there is one guy who lives death metal it’s rahmer though. I don’t think anyone knows more about old school horror either. Scary looking guy.

  • This was the first “heavy” song I can remember listening too.

    GL

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKF5R8doqDE

    • My latest “holy shit thats heavy!” is with Humanities Last Breath 2013 self titled!

      GL

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPAIYLK3HtI

      • Ann Coulter’s Flaccid Penis

        This album raped me and didn’t even take me out to dinner first, or call me after.

    • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

      the first dokken song i heard was into the fire off tooth and nail, and that album is just a back to front killer. Even alone again is a rare thing, a power ballad with power, not pussified up like home sweet home. Like ratt, a person could recognize a dokken song as soon as the guitar kicked in. Where with a weaker band like crue i would have to wait for neils whining vocals to make their appearance before i recognized their music.

    • actiondonkey

      My first ‘heavy’ song where I was like WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE was that Goro song by Napalm Death for the Mortal Combat soundtrack. Blew my little 9yo balls off back in the day!

  • Matt Damon
    • WTF, why have I never heard this?!

      wow!

      GL

      • W.

        It was on the Rare Trax compilation and not a proper full-length.

        • Tyree
        • Xander Crews

          It’s cool as tits that you know that. They should’ve let you be the first third-term prez.

          • W.

            When I get my awesome robot body, I’ll run for President again.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4GXNzom6ik and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTYXbFsWg-M are my favorite meshuggah tracks. so fucking heavy. bone crunching bass movements

      • Max

        I would put the main riff of “Bleed” into the “heaviest ever” shortlist. Such a simple but effective idea; for me it never fails to evoke the motion of a heaving tidal wave, the shot looped on a giant cinema screen.

        In many ways the quintessential Meshuggah song, and perhaps the perfect heavy metal song.

    • Cock of Steele

      They’re thrashy stuff is better than the polyrhythmic stuff in my shithead opinion.

  • KJM
  • Paris Hilton

    For me, I guess it depends on your experience in metal. For shit-tier soccer mom plebeians who’s favorite song is Slide by The Goo Goo Dolls, Five Fingered Death Punch would be considered unfathomably heavy. Where in the metal world they are scoffed at as being “poser tough guy metal”. Now, I’m a metalhead that enjoys all types of metal. I consider Maiden and Motorhead to be extremely heavy despite something like Devourment being infinitely heavier. Heaviness does not always equal good, either. A truly heavy song is one that has awesome songwriting. You could write all breakdowns, complete with non-stop blastbeats. But without any songwriting there is no suspense to those breakdowns and blastbeats, so they lose their luster.

    • Isn’t “Slide” about abortion? Seems heavy to me!

      EDIT, I shouldn’t be in this thread I HAVE to get work done right now.

      • Paris Hilton

        ME TOO!! DAMN YOU TOILET OV HELL AND HOW EASY YOU MAKE IT FOR ME TO PROCRASTINATE!!

      • W.

        Yes it is.

      • Gurp

        I am totally wasting time now as well.

      • Mr.CustodialArts

        So is “Brick” by Ben Folds Five! Let’s hear it for ABORTION ROCK.

    • Scrimm

      Maiden can be very heavy. Still high on my list of heaviest songs ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyLVLw7OH44

      • KJM

        5-star classic.

      • FeelTheDarkness

        This is my all time favorite Maiden song

        • Scrimm

          It’s pretty close for me too. That’s the album that started me love of metal.

      • Mother Shabubu III

        I’ve always been partial to “Seventh Son of a Seventh Son”

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PptHWHfnCnY

        • Scrimm

          That’s up there too. So glad I got to see it played live.

          • My older brother saw them on that tour w/ Megadeth. Little JAG wasn’t invited and remains butthurt to this day 🙁

          • Scrimm

            Ah that sucks. Megadeth wasn’t on the tour when it came through here. We got Coheed and Cambria…

          • Oh, I actually meant the tour for Seventh Son back in the late-eighties 😉 Megadeth was on the tour (touring So Far So Good So What) filling in for GNR who IIRC were kicked off the tour for…well…being GNR.

          • Scrimm

            I’m just a dumbass I didn’t even think of that.

          • No, you’re not. I worded it badly in response.

          • Scrimm

            No wonder you’re pissed you didn’t get to go.

    • Guppusmaximus

      Pantera proved that Heavy for the sake of being Heavy fricken stinks w/ Far Beyond driven…imho.

      • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

        i think st anger kind of covered that territory as well.

      • Mr.CustodialArts

        My love of that record also cements the fact that I am a stone meathead! No fucks given! USE MY THIRD ARM. 🙂

        • Guppusmaximus

          Hey, whateva floats yer boat. It wasn’t a horrible album, just a huge disappointment for me after the Brilliant Display of Musicianship on Vulgar Display of Power…

          • Mr.CustodialArts

            Do you think you would love the album MORE or LESS if it were titled “Brilliant Display of Musicianship” rather than “Vulgar Display of Power?” These are important items to mull over.

          • Guppusmaximus

            I love(d) “Vulgar Display” regardless of the album title. It’s “Far Beyond” that would need to be changed and not the album title either… Mull that f*cking shit over! *smirk*

    • Mook Styfawker

      I support this statement so much.

      • Paris Hilton

        Exactly! I mean look at Kataklysm. Sure, they’re heavy but my fuck are they the most boring band on the planet.

        • Mook Styfawker

          As I’ve stated before, once I got into high school I stopped looking into modern metal for nearly four years because all the examples I was exposed too were shitty songwriters that did breakdowns and blast beats all the time. People around me thought it was the most intense thing ever, and I was just sitting there like “woah, Ministry used to play with two drummers and real burning barrels on stage? That’s intense!”

          • W.

            As others have mentioned, Ministry has at best a spotty discography, but I’d be lying if I said they weren’t heavy as Cthulhu’s tentacles when i saw them on their first farewell tour.

          • Mook Styfawker

            Agreed. I actually liked the trilogy made in your honor but it was definitely a far cry from the days of R*pe and Honey, Mind, and Psalm 69.

          • W.

            I’m just happy people will remember me.

        • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

          hey don’t downgrade our quebecois boys paris. They have nothing but good things to say about you !

  • Scrimm

    For me it is all about the atmosphere and the riffs. All the other tricks won’t do it if you don’t have those. I tune to B, but that’s not what makes the stuff heavy.

    • Keegan Lavern Still

      I tune to A, and I whole-heartedly agree.

  • JWG

    I take the Wall Of Sound approach to defining the truly ‘heavy’, but I can appreciate all those other forms in any permutation and order.

    Conan’s “Blood Eagle” is undeniably heavy in the WoS respect. I’d liken it to a constant barrage from an array of torpedo tubes stuffed with jackhammers (especially if I want to sound like a pretentious reviewer on the Encyclopedia Metallum): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELP0H1g7dvg

    Side note: it gets a clear feline seal of approval from my metal-loving cat, though I suspect he’s biased by the fact that it’s pretty much ALL low-end thunder.

  • Tyree
    • Negrodamus

      Neil Young <3

      • Negrodamus <3

        GL

        • Negrodamus

          GL <3

          -ND

      • KJM

        Saw Neil w/Crazy Horse and again w/CSN&Y, both excellent shows.

    • KJM

      Yes, the lyrics qualify. I recently learned to play “Down by the river” and “Cortez the killer”, great songs to learn if you’re just starting out on guitar like me.

    • Mr.CustodialArts

      BINGO!

  • KJM

    I’m definitely a bigger fan of slow and plodding than fast and furious.

  • KJM

    Speaking of W, are we still holding on to the dream that Human beings & Fish can coexist peacefully?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbczX0ma8iY

    • W.

      Fish have never done me dirty, unlike hawks.

      • Mook Styfawker

        Those fuckers shit on everything you could ever love. 🙁

        • W.

          Mook, while you were on your leave of absence, a hawk mangled my scalp while I was out running.

          • Mook Styfawker

            Fuck me, I need to stick around more. That probably could have been avoided, maybe.

  • Mook Styfawker

    To me, “heavy” is can be just about anything if it’s intense enough. Lyrically, musically, even visually. What I deem as undisputed heavy musically and lyrically is the first two Swans album, Filth and Cop. I have other examples, but I’ll leave it at that for today.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DplAVA-h4H0

    • inb4 NegroD

    • Mother Shabubu III

      “Public Castration Is A Good Idea” is one of the heaviest, most challenging live recordings I have ever heard.

      • Mook Styfawker

        I’ve never heard it all in one sitting, to be honest. Not because I think it sucks, but something has ALWAYS interrupted me. It’s weird.

        • Mother Shabubu III

          It’s not an easy record to listen to.

  • RomuluxX

    To me those slow, sinister, heaving riffs are as heavy as it gets. Dark lyrics help too. Harvester of Sorrow remains the heaviest song I’ve ever heard

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=551_hC414UY

  • Say what you will about deathcore. I only like 2 or 3 bands from the genre. Personally, I think this band is heavy as fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47Plg93oJ1M

    • Ann Coulter’s Flaccid Penis

      Saw them live a couple months ago, shit got insane. The vocalist hung upside down from the lighting scaffolding attached to the ceiling. Gawt dayum that was a good show.

  • breakdowns

  • Keegan Lavern Still

    Conceptually and lyrically, nothing has sounded as heavy to me as LVMBAR.

    http://lumbarsl.bandcamp.com/album/the-first-and-last-days-of-unwelcome

  • Further Down the Metal Hole

    I’d say it’s the riffs that make something heavy for me, more often slow rather than fast ones. Most importantly for music though, it needs to move me emotionally, either by making me want to crush something or by giving me goose bumps, but it’s the riffs that make it heavy for me.

  • Guppusmaximus

    I’ve always perceived (possibly inaccurately) heaviness as a groove or “swing” relation. It doesn’t always have to be “Metal” either.The new tech death / metal stuff doesn’t sound heavier to me but faster.

    European mantra – Nu Blues

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k00DioIeZw

    Confessor – Cross the Bar:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUAzn2gPDoA

  • M Shadows!
  • RuIN?

    When I think heavy, I don’t always think metal. Heavy is a mentality. Heavy is an attitude. Heavy is Ice-T. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtih6GsEMMo

  • Drop tuning to oblivion, bass drops, and st. anger snare blast beats

  • Mithrandir

    Metalheads tend to confuse Heavy with Agressive… Blastbeats are fucking agressive but aren’t exactly heavy in my opinion.. Breakdowns are heavy, i’m not a fan of them but in some songs when a breakdown comes it makes me go nuts. Bands like Mayhem or other black metal bands sound really agressive but not so heavy, while Black fucking Sabbath sounds heavy as F and yet their vocalists have never been like guttural or darker shit and their drum parts have never had blastbeats or excesive double bass drum.. And then there are perfect blends of both, like fucking Pantera or Deicide or CC and that’s probably why they are/were so good. Just my opinion.

    Mithrandir.

    • W.

      I think you make a really good point.

    • Phuo

      Agree. To me “heavy” is generally low-to-mid tempo, lower pitched and grooving. Sabbath, and Crowbar are the first two bands that came to mind when I saw this article.

    • mustangbomb

      Agreed. To tack onto that, it’s all about dynamic contrasts too. I can’t ever be satisfied with bands that always put out songs/albums that start heavy, stay heavy, and end heavy. It doesn’t work. There’s equal amounts of heaviness (emotionally as well as aurally) in the buildup, culmination, and release. Even if that’s as simple as imposing echoing silence into and between tracks, it plays a huge part in the overall effect of the music.

    • mustangbomb

      To use an example:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZmwmhBf2p4

      (I might be crazy for thinking this is heavy, but oh well. I think this is heavy.)

  • FeelTheDarkness
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpVa-x7YndY the first 30 seconds or so: dat rumbling bass and the cavalcade of cascading toms. I’m all aquiver

  • Middenface McFidget

    What I think of as heaviness in music is something slow and deliberate with an intensity that almost feels unstoppable. It always comes back to Locust Star for me, there is nothing heavier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmdmnnv2NkY

    • I wish I could upvote this more times.

    • FeelTheDarkness

      I cannot even express the love I have for this band. I have seen them live more times than any other band. 16 times all across the US.

    • Gorgasm

      Holy shiit.
      Can’t wait till i can see the mighty Neurosis live.

    • mustangbomb

      I used to have this video link bookmarked, about 2 computers ago. All I’m sayin’ is it’s going back to my bookmarks bar right now.

    • RomuluxX

      There was a time where I just didn’t “get” Neurosis, but then I saw this video. Such passion and fury on stage. I watch it frequently.

  • Cock of Steele

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ffwvrW2_A0 (Circle skanks around the computer room)

    • Mithrandir

      Liked it from the first second.

  • Last one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsWv9nFLl_s OMGWOW! Dat bass! I can’t get enough.

    • Guppusmaximus

      Ha! I saw these guys when they opened for Napalm Death (Harmony Corruption tour aka first time I heard the term Grindcore). I can dig it now but I just didn’t care for it back then…

  • Gorgasm

    I’ve been asking myself this same question for the past few months.

    When I was but a wee little metalhead, I was under the impression that Mudvayne, Korn and Slipknot were about as heavy as it gets.Then moving towards death and black metal, to industrial, to progressive/djent, and eventually through all the -cores and settling for sludge/doom/drone/ambient.

    For me the idea of “what is heavy” has become not the sound, but the feeling of a sound. In that aspect Bohren and Sunn O)) have become some of my perceived heaviest bands out there, because it made me feel uncomfortable. When a track can give me that sense of unease, when i can start to feel tragedy and sorrow in the sound waves, then something is truly heavy. It took me years to realize you don’t have to play fast, loud, and aggressive to be heavy. One great example of how music can be unsettling and heavy is Battle of Mice’s “A Day of Nights”

    Julie Christmas has become one of my favorite vocalists, because she is able to convey her emotions and torment through her voice.

    And that, to me, is what “Heavy” means.

    http://youtu.be/C1CkdF7uoKk

    • Mook Styfawker

      By Bohren, I do hope you mean Bohren & der Club of Gore? :3

      • Gorgasm

        Yup

        • Mook Styfawker

          You sir and or madam, have my respect. Also, I agree with your original comment as well. Heavy isn’t about speed, intensity, or the amount of distortion one uses. It’s all about feeling.

    • Xan

      Portal is a band that makes me have that feeling of unease.

    • Xander Crews

      Glassjaw is one of those bands for me. The feelings that are conveyed (convincingly) in Everything You Wanted to Know About Silence are some of (if not the most) incredible I’ve ever experienced. From shitty breakups, to drug addiction and back again, and they do it all with a very tongue in cheek sense of humor. (See Lovebites and Razorlines) “WHHOOO YOU FUUCKIN NOOOOWWWWWWW?!?!” God DAYUM!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAQwAzZvGoo

  • Xan

    For me, the heaviest songs are those old eerily slow riffs that have an incredibly sinister sound to them. Song that are really evil sounding such as Asphyx’s “The Rack” are my jams. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW_Cj-V7guQ

    • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

      anything with Martin Van Drunen is going to be a beast.

  • This is heavier than anything on the flesh prevails. Fight me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xueom4k-Y0A&list=RDXueom4k-Y0A

  • As metal fans, I’m sure we all have friends that aren’t into metal. But sometimes they get curious, or we try to sneak some in before they realize what’s going on. For things like that, it helps to think of different kinds of heavy. A scale or a pathway. For instance, say your friend likes Radiohead (OK Computer is heavy already, in mood and content anyway). Introduce them to M83’s first album–it’s dark, electronic post-rock. Then you can move to Godspeed You! Black Emperor and/or Mogwai. If that flies, you can then move on to Russian Circles or Red Sparrowes. Next comes Isis (start with later material, and move towards the more metal earlier stuff). Then you’re well on your way to Neurosis and The Ocean. Congratulations! You just turned someone into a metal fan! (And enjoyed several different kinds of heavy along the way)

  • Xander Crews

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBW5iDvkMHU

    This shit goes hard. And as far as heavy goes, it IS right there in the title.

    • I need to see them live before I die.

      • W.

        It’s well worth it.

    • Ann Coulter’s Flaccid Penis

      FUAARRK that’s heavy.

    • What the hell is up with France? Gojira, Deathspell Omega, Svart Crown, Celeste, Alcest, The Great Old Ones, etc.

  • Poop Mango

    There’s “sonically heavy”, which is basically just low tuning + volume, and that’s generally where you find most death metal, deathcore, grind, etc. And there’s emotionally heavy, which can be lighter sounding shit that makes you depressed, but the best is when the two are combined and you get this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulr9Fbj3BQM

    This song makes me feel like someone is standing on my chest and I want to die. But, like, in a good way.

    • Poop Mango

      To put it in other words, heavy isn’t a guy with a chainsaw chopping up a cheerleader and blood spraying everywhere. Heavy is showing her parents in tears as the murderer is shoved into a police car, laughing at them, while their entire world is destroyed and they’re left to pick up the pieces.

      • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

        i like the way you think. Also i enjoy when a victims thought are shown just before their death, such as family gatherings, birthday parties, sitting on their parents laps and other happy shit that will never happen again.

        • W.

          Like at the end of The Descent when the heroin has that hallucination about her daughter’s birthday?

          • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

            yea, like in the descent. Both those descent movies were pretty good too. I am a sick puppy after watching too much hardcore horror. There is a scene like that in house of 1000 corpses too.

  • DROP D OR *FLUSH*

  • The Satan ov Hell

    Guitar tone in my opinion. Always been about the tone. You could have the worst riffs ever, or bouncing, happy melodic riffs, but a good tone makes it all feel heavy. That’s my opinion atleast. I’d cite my sources as Entombed, Dismember and Nails.

    • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

      Reminds me of an asshole music store i went to once. I went in and asked ” do you have anything that might give me an entombed wolverine blues tone “. Now that album was pretty big and these shitheads should have know. It wasn’t a suit and tie store. These guys played in a local cover band so i thought they would be ” hip ” to the scene. They had no fucking clue who entombed were and i was god damned if i was going to sit there and try to explain what they sounded like. Fucking disgraceful, these so called experts not keeping up with the times. Total bullshit. It’ not like entombed were ultra underground when wolverine blues broke.

      • The Satan ov Hell

        The funniest part about that is my local guitar store is run by an old, old guy [I’d hazard a guess at late 70s], who when asked about the tone when I was in there immediately answered “Boss HM2 pedal”

  • NefariousDude

    The journey to and from the heavy is what makes the heavy, heavy. Dynamics people. Also bad grammar.

    • Ann Coulter’s Flaccid Penis

      This. It really is all about the contrast. Without contrast, heavy gets dull and boring and loses impact.

  • Quarter Ounce Harrell

    Heavy in its truest sense is any music that makes you feel in powered.

  • The Flying Scotsman

    The opening few minutes (and the rest really) drips of heavy for me:
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HMfcBwjszzQ

  • Bucket ‘o Blood

    Heavy? Heavy is in the brutal sound of 200 voices and a full orchestra playing at maximum volume. http://youtu.be/MeXR5blDTIk

  • actiondonkey

    So Shining’s Blackjazz is one of those albums that is just heavy as shit to me, then again so is Dying Fetus’s Reign Supreme. Some of Hatebreed’s work gets me pumped as all hell for workouts. All three are different genres and styles but effectively are, to me, supremely heavy.

  • Ann Coulter’s Flaccid Penis

    Nails gets my vote for heavy as phuqq.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt1gYAMICpc