Washington Think Tank with W.: Is the future of metal here?

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You know, for the last decade or so I have worked tirelessly to keep this country safe. I’ve put dudes in black bags and shipped them halfway around the world, played Barney music at high volumes in enclosed spaces in order to convince threats to national security to relinquish secrets, and spread propaganda disconcerting news to keep you aware of threats to you and your favorite holidays. However, despite my best intentions (and my NSA spy ring), I still can’t predict the future. So now I’m turning this problem over to you, the little people. Ain’t democracy great?

Today’s Question: Is the future of metal here?

This question has been niggling me for some time now. Are we truly experiencing ground-breaking new bands that are more important than any other band from the last decade, or are the big names of today simply flash-in-the-pan gimmicks that will wear out their welcome soon enough? Where is metal going? Who are the true innovators in this genre?

Sound off in the comments below.

Don’t know what the Washington Think Tank is? This is a weekly column where your former President poses a pressing question and allows the top minds at the Toilet ov Hell to investigate his query.

  • Negrodamus

    This might sound silly or obvious coming from me, but I honestly think Pyrrhon is doing advanced, original, and futuristic music, at least on their last release, cause it doesn’t sound like much else.

    • dingus

      I want so badly to understand that band, even as someone who appreciates really abrasive shit the things I’ve heard from them just don’t “sound good” I guess

      • Negrodamus

        Are you thinking of their latest release? I listened to their previous stuff and it sounded pretty normal, but I think they took a big leap forward for The Mother Of Virtues and I am very interested to hear what they do next. I can certainly understand why someone wouldn’t like them though, the music is very off putting.

        • dingus

          Yeah, most recent stuff for sure. It just sounds the way freeform jazz does to me, that is to say tuneless, borderline rhythmless nonsense. As a noise fan that’s silly to say but I guess the way they pick their shit out just doesn’t work for my ears. maybe I’ll come around to it

          • Negrodamus

            Ha! In my write up of Pyrrhon for this site I mentioned that it sounded like free form jazz (even though I don’t really know shit about jazz).

            What kind of noise do you like? I am wading in the kiddie pool of noise. So far I like a bit of power electronics but I don’t get the appeal of HNW yet at all.

          • dingus

            power electronics are cool, harsh noise is something I have to be in the mood for. More than anything I gravitate towards drone I guess, that tends to be the kind of thing I do to relax

          • Virgil

            Do you ever listen to Horseback?

          • dingus

            not before this exact minute, but holy shit! this is great

          • Virgil

            I know. They’re awesome.

          • Negrodamus

            I tried playing Sunn more than once when I was in adult college and working on homework. It was nice having that background noise but not really anything in there that was distracting.

    • W.

      Actually, they were the band that jumped to my mind when I wrote this. I really can’t think of anyone else that sounds like them.

      • Beunhaas

        One reviewer compared the Mother of Virtues to Jane Doe by Converge. That’s the closest thing I have seen to a good comparison with another band.

        • Negrodamus

          I read that review and I found it to be quite an interesting concept, but sonically are they that similar?

      • Negrodamus

        … great minds think and all that.

    • Pyrrhon and artificial brain

      • W.

        I absolutely love Artificial Brain, but honestly, they aren’t doing much that hasn’t been done before. They’re just better at it.

        • Poop Mango

          I think we’re mostly at the point where that’s all you can expect from the future of metal. No big leaps, just smaller evolutionary refinements over time.

          • ^^^ Agree/10.

          • W.

            That’s how science works, bro. Some genius establishes a new paradigm, then people spend decades exploring the fringes and minutiae of the paradigm, slowly advancing the science in inches rather than miles. Something truly, truly revolutionary doesn’t come along very often.

          • I think that there can be an explanation, this is just a hunch, but the way I see it, most musicians method of practicing is to crank enter sandman or whatever and play along with it. There’s “achievements” like being able to play free bird in its entirety. Back then you couldn’t replay the same song til you could play it note-by-note or you’d ruin your record, so people would fuck around with their instruments more often and create new stuff.

          • Poop Mango

            I don’t think this is true. The fact is, so much more ground has been covered in music since those days. It’s become more difficult to do something that stands out because so much has already been done. The lower barrier of entry to the music industry these days has contributed to this as well. There’s simply more and more bands trying to carve out a niche in genres that are, at this point, well established and where significant innovation has already happened. Fuck around with your instrument all you want, someone has probably already played that riff.

          • Guacamole Jim

            Guthrie Govan gave an awesome talk about that exact point. I think you’ll like it.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-0GCL3VpjQ

          • CÖÄL RÖLL FRÖM THE TÖILET BÖWL

            Bro? did you finally get that Duramax you’ve been hankerin for?

          • I’m sure someone somewhere will do something with metal that blows our minds and that never even crossed our minds.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Nicki Minaj?

          • You tell me, you’re the expert on her. 😉

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Now that’s just mean. I think Joe is the expert.

          • W.

            Unfortunately, sometimes when that happens, people completely miss it. Gorguts’ Obscura should have been a game changer, but it flew over people’s heads. Now, almost two decades later, we’re hearing stuff that sounds just like it.

          • Very true

          • CÖÄL RÖLL FRÖM THE TÖILET BÖWL

            Illud Divinum Insanus tried really hard, and failed even harder

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I never want to listen to that piece of garbage again. It was terrible and the remix album they did of it was the worst thing I have ever heard bar none.

  • Metaphysical Anus

    Archspire is the future! Deathspell Omega is also the future.

  • Tyree

    I think Portal opened the gates to the future of death metal. When I first heard them I was like whaaaaaat, this is amazing. You sort of see death metal bands taking the same path as Portal now.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pKjF41Yx1k

    • W.

      They’re definitely next level stuff.

    • I feel you on this.

    • Randall Thor

      I think 99% of Portal fans have no idea what’s actually going on, and just say it’s the best because a few elitists at the beginning of Portal’s career told them that it’s next level stuff.

      That said, I do enjoy Portal and am looking forward to them at MDF.

      • W.

        There’s a deliberate effort on their part to make their music both complex and muddy. They want to confound your senses.

        • Keegan Lavern Still

          It’s because of that where I’d almost call them more of a noise band than death metal. Even though they’re not “Lovecraftian” from a lyrical perspective, the cacophonous nature of their sound and songwriting reflects it beautifully.

          • W.

            They actually make some Lovecraftian references on their earlier albums.

          • Keegan Lavern Still

            Yeah, not since Outré, iirc. I actually forgot where I got the idea that they didn’t derive lyrics from the Cthulu mythos, but then I remembered that ridiculous interview they did from a while back.

          • W.

            Haha, oh yah. That was the most pretentious thing I’ve ever read.

      • Tyree

        99%? Come on now. I can hear what’s going on even though it can be pretty muddy and chaotic.

        • Randall Thor

          The reason I say that is because I always hear “next level”, “the best”, and a ton of generic, but overall completely non-descriptive adjectives used to describe Portal.

          • W.

            Was my response descriptive enough for you, warrior?

          • Randall Thor

            I gave you an up-broadsword to voice my approval

      • i will consider going to MDF if a bunch of us turds are going. it only looks like a few hours’ flight.

        • Randall Thor

          This will be my third year, it’s a total blast. We need roal coalling shirts before we go!

        • Elite Extremophile

          We should get a ToiletOvHell tent to meet at with exclusive, pristine toilets.

      • Mr.CustodialArts

        I have NO idea what is going on-unless the sound I hear truly IS a blackened swarm of demonic hatebees being shot out of a clockhead. I love it.

    • good call. very innovative…but also listenable. some of the stuff you post i’m like “whaaaaaa?” (not an insult, mind you)

    • Nope, I don’t get it. I’ve tried to listen to them several times, and I like it ok, but I really don’t see what’s so special about what they’re doing. I want to like it though. Do I just need to keep at it?

      • Tyree

        If you don’t like it you don’t like it. If you want to give them another shot go on ahead, but I wouldn’t waste your time.

        • my girl listens to hip-hop. she says, “you going to make fun of me for liking this?” my response (i put on some Artificial Brain), “listen to the shit that i enjoy… how can i make fun of somebody else’s musical tastes?”

          • DeeSnarl

            Yeeeeeep. I’m a man in my 40s that listens to power metal. I’m excluded from making fun of other people’s musical tastes. (JK, I make fun of their stupid taste all the time.)

          • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

            It is us guys in our 40’s who listen to power metal not kids, it reminds us of the 80’s when bands could sing not shout and scream. Guitarists who could shred, nothing wrong with that shit.

          • JWG

            In a sense it’s fortunate that all but a few of my acquaintances and friends in the “real” world are definitely not metal fans, as they would, indeed, just look at the *whole* of my metal collection as a monumental waste of time and money.

            Likewise, the few of my friends who *are* metal fans like me also happen to be local promoters, or members of the local musician pool, neither of which group can afford subgenre elitism.

            So my wildly diverse metal collection (not all subgenre delineated nor differentiated by mainstream vs. cult following) finds either total approval, or utter indifference. There is none of that frustrating in-between.

        • Well, I’m willing to admit that sometimes you have to give things another go, depending on your mood, whatever. Was just curious if any fans could tell me there was some secret that has yet to reveal itself to me.

          • ok, i’m going to bite! check out “Cracked Book of Life” below, it’s one of their more accessible songs.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgED7nXlxZE

          • McNulty, If you were really replying to me, I LOVE Deathspell Omega. I get them down in the bottom of my black, little heart. I just don’t get Portal yet.

            Actually, there are several bands many of you guys like that I’m trying to give more listens to, out of respect for the great community here. Portal, Pyrrhon, and Destrage, to name a few. Maybe Fallujah, haven’t decided yet.

          • yup, i sure done goofed! sorry buddy

          • now that you’ve given “Cracked Book of Life” a chance, you’re asking me, “what’s next Jimmy? i want more.”
            next, check out “Phosphene”… the first four minutes are typical Deathspell Omega cacophonous goodness full of angular riffs and ADD-riddled drumming. THEN at the 4:20 mark the chaos clears and you’re left standing at the edge of a barren wasteland, smoke still rising from the cracks in the ground, piles up on piles of power metal corpses lying in the distance. there’s THAT sound. dat agonizing Deathspell Omega vox. that emotionally draining guitar sound…
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN_i4p2T1GA

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    • Metaphysical Anus

      Archspire is love, Archspire is life. Shrek bows down to Archspire.

  • Virgil

    Stoic Dissintation

    • Tyree

      Oh man, I forgot about their newest album. I got to get on that shit.

      • Virgil

        Its pretty good. I think they have some limited CDs left on there band camp.

  • METALLICA IS THE PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE OF ALL MUSIC.

    /Goes to Buffalo Wild Wings with Kerry “Burger” King
    //Orders a salad and ten beers
    ///Quickly leaves out the back door, sticking Kerry with the check

    BLACKENED IS THE END!!!

    • Metaphysical Anus

      Y u do dis Joe?

    • No coal rolling. 4/5 flushes.

      • Metaphysical Anus

        666/5 flushes – IGN

        • Not Vincent Bennett

          This gets a rating of Jim Neidhart. If you’re wondering Jim Neidhart is related to Bret Hart and also wasn’t a good wrestler. He’s also a big drug addict from what I have read. The Jim Neidhart rating means that something was good but then turned bad.

        • Paris Hilton

          11/10 It’s Ok -IGN

    • Keegan Lavern Still

      Here I am, at Buffalo Wild Wings after a day of collecting applications and touching up resumes, with guilt and shame burning at the back of my neck.

      *sob*

      Well, at least I’m not the guy behind me who can’t take the teriyaki sauce.

      • I’ve never been to the B Dubs but I’ve had a pretty fantastic day. Might have to put on my formal gym shorts and celebrate there tonight!

        • save your money for tuesday, that’s when wings are on sale
          edit: what made your day so great??

          • I got a job offer! My current job situation has been pretty toxic for a long while so I’m excited to do some solid work in a new environment.

          • CONGRATS! That’s great man. There’s a lot to be said about finding a decent job and what it can do for your overall mood/well being.

          • Xan

            Nice! I’ve been seeking a job for about a year now. The search has not gone well.

          • It’s tough dude. IMO two of the crappiest things people have to do:
            1) move to a new apartment
            2) find a new job.

          • bought my first house in June. never moving again. staying there for the 30 years of the loan or death.

          • Virgil

            Congratulations.

          • Howard Dean

            Bought a house, too. Last fall. It feels great, though the weight of a mortgage can be quite heavy.

          • yea, and it gives me some much-needed responsibility!

          • Xan

            I get to experience number one next year when I transfer to a new college. I guess I get to experience number two as well.

          • Keegan Lavern Still

            Yep and yep. I’m currently in the middle of both. Both headaches have been needlessly exacerbated by flakey people and a registrar office employee who must be psychic, respectively.

          • congratulations, broseph! when your current job is over, you’ll have to tell us more about it.

          • Awesome news Joe!

          • Virgil

            Good luck

          • Mr.CustodialArts

            TOX-IC-IC-IC-IC-IC-IC-TOCK!

          • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

            As i have been hinting at it the last few months, i now make a royal proclamation.
            Let it be know that according to CROM and with the compliance of CONAN, MANOWAR are now a legitimate band, the originators of power metal. I have listened to them and found them to be sincere in their love of the power of steel.
            NUFF’ SAID
            EXCELSIOR

          • you’re going to have to recommend a song or two. manowar n00b here!

        • Stockhausen

          As much as I love to make fun of the massive brota (bro quota) they effortlessly meet at all times, I do love stuffing my face there. You should definitely celebrate there, and maybe bring some backup Axe in case things heat up.

          • Occams_Razor_Ramon

            Screamin’ Nacho Burger FTW, Brah!

          • Stockhausen

            That sounds way too delicious. I can’t tear myself away from wings, I will round up the bros and make a special trip just for that burger.

          • TrickleDownTacoRiff

            Speaking of wings is there anything worse than Hooters wings? Those big ass hairy nasty mofos? Yeeeech…

          • there is not. 15 years ago they were great, but i guess they thought the outfits could carry the brand name, and the wings took a nose dive.

          • TrickleDownTacoRiff

            right on bruh!

          • Stockhausen

            Those wings suuuuuuuck. I’ve only been a couple times over the past few years, but I will be avoiding that establishment from now on.

          • TrickleDownTacoRiff

            I’ve prob only been there 5 times or less but eeeech! Nightmare! Hey if Dischordia ever heads up north check out the Metal bar in Clifton NJ DingBatz! I haven’t been yet but I hear it’s great and lots of metal bands swing through. I would dig seeing you guys there, just food for thought if you ever set up an east coast swing! Jose from liquid metal hosts a metal night out there too, it’s very well known round here. Peace!

        • Ayreonaut

          The correct phrasing is b dub dubs

      • Janitor Jim Duggan

        I’ve been to BDubs before when my ex who you have all heard of by now worked there. She would always hook me up with free wings and we would go there on dates sometimes and just eat wings and once we were 21 in 2008 get shitfaced and go back to her place to have sex. The first beer we had together was when we were 18 and we were at a party in high school. She had drank beer before but not often. We each picked up a can of Natty Ice and she loved it. I tolerated it but now that she’s gone I love it as much as I miss her which is very much. I’m drinking a cold one right now in your honor and listening to the copy of Asylum by Kiss that you loved so much.Thank you for leaving me your prized collection of Kiss vinyl and CDs, I know you would have wanted me to have them. Thank you for the great times you gave me and I hope it’s nice up there. You put such an impression on my life and I want you to know that I love you and I’m going to miss you. Thank you for being in my life.

    • Mother Shabubu III

      Your lifestyle determines your deathstyle.

      PS: Always remember; you are the table.

    • CÖÄL RÖLL FRÖM THE TÖILET BÖWL

      (*rolls out of parking lot leaving behind cloud of black smoke)

    • just makes me miss RiotAct666 that much more

      • I wrote this because I miss RA and PH. : (

        • Paris Hilton

          I’m back now bitches!!! BUY COME ALIVE!!!!

          Now that I’m back, let’s let a new wave of cruelty wash over the nerds! Nerds, please line up in single file at the Hilton Estates so that I may blow cigar smoke in all of your faces and let you know grown ass people don’t care about some shitty, obscure vinyl album from 1981.

          • Hey…I live for shitty obscure vinyl albums from the early-eighties 🙂

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I have vinyl from the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. I have Vardis’ debut album on vinyl. Do you remember the band Vardis Jay? They were NWOBHM and they had a few albums. They had more albums than most unknown and underrated NWOBHM bands did. Not as many as Tygers of Pan Tang or Samson but still quite a few.

          • I don’t remember Vardis at all TBH.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            They were around for about 3 or 4 years. This is the album I have of theirs. It’s an original pressing and it’s really good quality. Give it a listen.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzVMyIzWm9Q

          • Sounds decent.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I like it. I like a lot of stuff like it that can be classified as obscure. I love this band called Truth and Janey who I had never heard of until I went on this store and found reissues of the one album they made and a live album from the tour of that album.

          • nice dive bar band! did you have fun moving the pool table so that they could play to their six fans????

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I never saw them. They were a band who formed and disbanded before I was born.

          • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

            Albums are only great if a person has a decent turntable and sound system which you must have.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I have a good sound system. It’s a Yamaha receiver with two Polk Audio speakers hooked up to it. My turntable is an old JVC from the 70s or 80s that was top of the line at the time.

          • Paris Hilton

            You are # 420. You will have to wait your turn.

          • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

            missed you ;( Heard you were busy filming godzilla 2. You still got it girl !

          • Paris Hilton

            I’ve MISSED you too CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING. Your online perverted escapades never fail to make me smile!

      • he totally gave me upvotes today over at MS. touched by an z-level E-celeb

        • Paris Hilton

          Him and I became unexpected homies over at MS.

      • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

        …..ODIN & CROM ARE MUCH THE SAME.

        • Paris Hilton

          Say what you want about Jesus but he was forced to wear a crown of thorns, carried a big ass cross up a hill in which he was whipped the whole time by Roman soldiers, nailed to that cross by his hands and feet, his clothes were gambled for, he was stabbed in the ribs by a spear, and then was left to die of suffering. He also had long hair and a righteous beard. The last time I checked, that’s pretty fucking METAL!

          Paris Hilton has spoketh!!

          • Jöhnny Crünch™

            Long hair and beard tells me Jesus was the original hipster

          • Homo sapiens metallum

            Yes, he truely is. He liked Nine Inch Nails before they were a band.
            No, sorry Paris is right, Jesus is metal, he fought against Satan after living in the desert for 40 days without food. m/

          • Mr. Satanicat

            He also didn’t exist. So metal.

          • and he had a ripping six-pack

  • In all seriousness, I think this is the future of metal, but the internet and access to recording equipment has caused a flood of bands both talented and not. The task now is to sift through all the music and separate the wheat from the chaff.

    • Metaphysical Anus

      I think that we do not yet know what will be the future of metal.

      • I think the successful blending of genres will be what sets some of these new bands apart from the others. (Fallujah, Allegaeon, I’m bad at examples, etc.)

        • Metaphysical Anus

          If I had to say some band, I would agree with Howard and say Deathspell Omega.

          • Just now getting around to listening to them. Like literally as I’m typing this. I like it so far, but it doesn’t sound as innovative and amazing as you guys seem to evangelize.

          • Metaphysical Anus

          • Howard Dean

            Listen to the album Paracletus, preferably from front to back.

      • Janitor Jim Duggan

        No man, stoner metal and Deafheaven are the future of metal! Electric Wizard and Sleep will rule the world!

        • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

          Did you hear about the decibal article where jus runs dorrian down hardcore saying he is a money grubbing cunt amongst other things. Dorrian has done nothing but support doom for pretty much 20 years and Rise above has always had an amazing roster. Just because black masses didn’t sell it’s not dorrians fault. Every look at how much touring wiz have done. One US tour and a couple of dates a year in the uk and europe. And the number of band members they go through his unreal. The guys believes his own hype and the fact that i forced myself to like Black massess says a lot to me. I also have a hundred different variations of vinyl i have bought from them as well as expensive box sets. Nothing worse than a whiner.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I didn’t read that article. It sounds pretty mean to call someone that though. I loved Black Masses. There was just something about it that I loved.

    • Poop Mango

      I used to always say about punk, the best part of it is that it proves anyone can make music. The worst part is that “anyone” does. The low barrier to entry for art in general these days has amplified that. Sure, anyone can do stuff like start a band or draw artwork or whatever. But most people are a) not good at it, and b) hide behind excuses like “rawness” as a way of refusing to improve.

      • DeeSnarl

        I have often said something very, very similar: The great thing about punk is that anyone can do it. The terrible thing about punk is that anyone can do it.

        Pretty sure I said mine first and now you owe me stuff…

        • Poop Mango

          Sure, just let me grab my wallet. I left it over here… *runs out the fire exit*

    • Cock of Steele

      There will never be another Iron Maiden.

      • Scrimm

        I shed tears of both joy and sorrow at the truth of that statement

        • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

          Just think though, you have seen them live many times no doubt. For those that love zeppelin that is an impossible dream. When IM are gone it will be our generations zeppelin, something that will be talked about forever.

          • Scrimm

            I try never to think about IM being gone.

    • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

      that’s totally right, the record labels used to have smart people working for them . ( and i do mean used to) There was also enough smaller labels to sign more underground stuff. Now everyone and their dog is throwing out shit and then their is this whole crowd funding phenomena going on. One day there is going to be a thief that is going to make judd blake look like a kid who stole a chocalate bar & take off with the money they raise for a ” music ” project.

  • Randall Thor

    The American Power Metal scene is exploding with innovation right now. Some of it is strengthening more traditional genres, some of it is exploring new blends/styles of genres, but overall, it’s a very exciting time.

    • Metaphysical Anus

      NO POWER METAL!

      • Virgil

        Seconded!

        • Not Vincent Bennett

          I love you. You use Virgil as your username and have a photo of him as your profile photo. You’re my new best friend.

          • Virgil

            Wow thanks, I need a friend. I love you to.

          • Poop Mango
          • KJM

            Stop checking out Daffney’s ass.

          • Virgil

            Can’t help myself, that’s a nice apple.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            We’re proud to have you here Virgil. Your reign as Million Dollar Champion was legendary and you are a main eventer in my WWE 2K14 universe! Your stuff as Vincent of the nWo was the greatest thing ever. It’s a shame that people judge you on your selling of autographed items because you seem like a pretty nice guy. Give the Million Dollar Man a hello for me won’tcha?

          • Virgil

            HEYOOOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

          • Virgil

            When WWE inducts the NWO stable into the Hall of Fame next Wrestlemania, do you think they will induct just the 3 of them, the first 6-10, or everyone who was ever a member?

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I have a feeling that they would induct most of the members but not the ones that the WWE was on bad terms with such as Buff Bagwell, Scott Steiner and Jeff Jarrett because he was in the nWo 2000. I hope they include Randy Savage in that list as well but I doubt they will.

          • Virgil

            I believe that they will only induct the 3 even through that doesn’t do it justice because they needed Billionaire Ted and Six-Poc who was the funniest at the time. But Poc will get inducted with DX though.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I’m sure they will induct XPac with DX but I also think that they will induct the original 3 members of the nWo.

      • Randall Thor

        POWER METAL SUCKS but hey let’s listen to this band of dudes burp for 20 minutes hue yeah that’s cool

        • Metaphysical Anus

          Jimmies are rustling! I also love prog and there’s no burps in there.

          • Poop Mango

            I prefer progressive burp metal

        • CÖÄL RÖLL FRÖM THE TÖILET BÖWL

          just wait till you hear the ToH Slam band

    • Let me know when they innovate the vocals.

      • Metaphysical Anus

        Burn!

      • Beunhaas

        Tech-Death vocals aren’t really innovative either.

        • Metaphysical Anus

          Oh shit mate! Things are heating up between power metal and tech death.

          • R u tryna start shit bra?

          • Metaphysical Anus

            I aint tryin nuthin bro.

          • KJM

            Occult Stoner Doom will conquer all.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            You’re so wrong. Post-Avant Jazzcore will be the future of everything.

          • KJM

            Ironic Post-Punk Clog Dance music. You heard it here first.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            No man, no war between genres is complete without prog! I mean both prog rock and prog metal and as a genre united prog will beat both power metal and tech death metal! Now who’s with me?

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Shhhhh. While power metal and tech death are fighting, prog can live in peace. After they’ve weakend themselves we strike.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I think that’s a good strategy. We wait until they weaken each other considerably and then we strike and prog will take over the Toilet!

          • Metaphysical Anus

            ToiletOvProg! ProgOvHell!

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            May this dream be realized!

          • Metaphysical Anus

            We shall wait now. Prog on, my brother.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Have you listened to the new Opeth album yet? I got my copy today and now it’s in my record player for the second time. I’m really loving it.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            Yes I have and I love it.

        • True enough, aside from a few bands but at least they don’t sound like they are in an opera half the time.

          • W.

            Maybe you should listen to an actual opera. It’s actually pretty riveting.

          • I agree, but when it’s just the vocals I no like.

        • Knight Solaire

          I want new Demilich, where the vocals actually are burping.

      • Randall Thor

        Well, ok.

        Power metal singers, generally, perform the most difficult style of vocals. Any schmuck can get good enough at harsh vocals to be a frontman. It is true that some, like Van Drunen, are exceptionally good harsh vocalists, but overall, no natrual talent is required.

        Now, being born with a ridiculous talent/range/voice? Then training that voice to meet the extreme demands of opera, classical, and/or power metal? Talk to me next time a tech death singer has 6 years of voice lessons to sing in a band.

        Or we could just listen to next level stuff like Tibetan throat singing

        http://youtu.be/sA3cwX1wNHQ

        • W.

          Randall is right. A lot of people used to bag on Warrell Dane, but to build an operatic voice like that takes years, and I’m sure he isn’t even the best there is.

          • Randall Thor

            He’s great, but the “best” comes down to personal preference at the end of the day.

          • W.

            True. FYI, I used to sing in a band. The growls and screams were way easier than nailing Dickinson’s vox.

          • Randall Thor

            Doing both simultaneously is brutal. Check out “Starchild” by Wintersun. That is a true endurance test in all forms of vocals.

          • W.

            I was just in a crappy cover band, but I definitely realized that I had to do some vocal practices if I really wanted to nail the range of songs we played.

          • Randall Thor

            BREATH SUPPORT MASTER RACE. If you can get good, proper breath support, you’re over halfway there

          • W.

            I actually bought those “Zen of Screaming” dvds. Not sure how you feel about them, but her breathing and vocal techniques helped me some.

          • Randall Thor

            The only bad thing I’ve ever heard about them is that they aren’t free, haha. I have no idea what is in there, but if she’s teaching you how to “breathe through your toes” (diaphramatic breaths) then you’re golden

          • Stockhausen

            I like the warmups, but there wasn’t much help for growled vocals. I’d like to go through them again with a different mindset, because I’m trying to experiment with some different styles.

          • Keegan Lavern Still

            To me, breathing is like 85% of good singing technique. The other 15% is adjusting your throat to access higher and lower ranges without straining it, which of course goes back to good breathing support.

          • W.

            In the zen of screaming videos, she tells you to hold a pencil in your mouth and practice singing over the pencil.

          • Randall Thor

            tl;dr Learn proper breathing techniques

          • Scrimm

            I second this.

          • The best comes down to Travis Ryan at the end of the day.

          • Randall Thor

            He’s not even Karl Willets, get out of here

          • Who?

          • Randall Thor

            Bro r u srs?

          • Maybe, maybe I’m just trying to rustle your jimmies, maybe you are indoctrinated.

          • Randall Thor

            I choose the green ending

          • I chose the mass effect 3 happy ending mod.

        • Lmfao Tibetan throat singing.

          • Randall Thor

            It’s REALLY fun to do! Just don’t hurt your throat trying it!

        • Metaphysical Anus

          Tibetan throat singing is the future of metal!

        • NDNOvHell

          I’ve always appreciated a good singer. I agree with this.

        • Cock of Steele

          Those tibetans, they totally ripped off Nile.

          • Randall Thor

            Yep. Although the singers were probably 40 years into throat singing before Nile was a band.

            I personally prefer more melodic overtone singing, as that’s much easier/less demanding on your throat.

            This song is a spectacular demonstration of overtone singing. It’s sprinkled tastefully throughout, but the last half is just singers creating a soundscape for 5 minutes http://youtu.be/o87rD29rl-4

        • Howard Dean

          This is true. Power metal vocalists are, on the whole, the best pure singers with the most talent in metal.

    • Howard Dean

      Agreed. I think we will see a rash of bands that combine black/death metal with power metal the way Satan’s Host has with their last couple albums. That’s an interesting mix, for sure.

    • Mr. Satanicat

      Power metal should just unplug itself.

      • Randall Thor

        Sounds like we have a poser!

  • Howard Dean

    There are several examples of bands “taking the leap” and advancing their subgenres and the genre of metal ahead. Some do it with interesting themes, odd production, new technologies, gimmicks, etc.

    There is, however, one that is putting a total package together, a complete “next level” band and sound. I mentioned them during our recent discussion about apex/alpha bands.

    Deathspell Omega.

    They have their haters and detractors, but few will say that what they are doing is not different or not original. They are the cutting edge for black/death metal in general right now. In swamps of old school revivalism and “dissonance-for-the-sake-of-dissonance-and-at-the-expense-of-songwriting,” DsO is a glowering and ugly beacon of originality.

    They have the whole package: the sound, the aesthetics, the themes, the aura, etc. Of the countless black and death metal bands attempting this type of “sound” right now, no one comes close (even those that are good bands, like Dodecahedron, Ulcerate, and Svartidaudi). No one can combine the dissonance with songwriting, the aesthetics with really good lyrics, or the aura/unknown without the cheesiness. They really feel out of this world, and I think that’s a quality of “next level” or “future” bands.

    • Metaphysical Anus

      I approve and say yes.

    • Beunhaas

      I should listen to them more.

      • Metaphysical Anus

        You should.

      • Howard Dean

        They are honestly the desired end product bands like Ulcerate, Portal, Pyrrhon, etc are trying to accomplish with their limited machinations, but can never quite reach. They combine some of the strangest and most dissonant layers of “melody” with otherworldly drumming, and they make it listenable. The songs have passion and emotion. They sound at the same time totally chaotic and off the rails, but held together with the strongest of compositional glues. It’s amazing stuff.

        • Beunhaas

          My nephew actually gave me their EP ‘Mass Grave Aesthetics’ to me a few years ago saying that I might like it. I didn’t like it, but my tastes have changed, so I will give them another chance.

          • Howard Dean

            Some of their stuff is more accessible than others. Their EPs are all pretty solid, with Kenose being most people’s favorite. However, I feel like they have really taken a step up and above everyone else with their most recent album, Paracletus, and their most recent EP, Drought.

          • Paracletus, my friend

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Oh my. Just mentioning that gets me moist.

    • Knight Solaire

      Deathspell Omega are certainly what I can see being the future, unlike some bands COUGHDEAFHEAVENCOUGH DSO does not sacrifice any of their “metalness” in innovation.

      • Metaphysical Anus

        I liked Sunbather. Go ahead, shoot me.

        • Beunhaas

          It was alright

        • Knight Solaire

          People can like what they like, my only beef is with whoever said “let’s make pink lemonade into black metal”

          • Disagree. I haven’t really understood what makes Deafheaven so special (the media was jocking them before Sunbather BTW), but I do like the combination of 120 Minutes-style shoegaze with black metal–I think it works well together. Two of my favorite albums so far this year have been the new Agalloch and the new Lantlos.

          • Knight Solaire

            It can be done right yes. I just felt sunbather focuses on the wrong aspects.

        • Niki minaj is probably better than sunbather. Yea I said it. I hate them both though.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Why do you always have to rustle my jimmies?

          • Dunno I guess they are just easy to rustle

          • Metaphysical Anus

            You were born to rustle my jimmies.

          • I LIKE THEM BOTH!

          • Metaphysical Anus

            DAMMIT JOE!

          • Occams_Razor_Ramon

            Collaboration Band: Deafspell Oheava

        • Virgil

          I like Roads to Judah better.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I like you Virgil, but I disagree with this statement. I liked the album but it was no Deafheaven.

          • Knight Solaire

            I too enjoyed Roads to Judah better

        • i dislike Deafheaven with all my heart. if you don’t fire shots, i won’t!

          • Metaphysical Anus

            I would never shoot you, bae.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I liked Sunbather. It was a hauntingly beautiful album and even though their debut sucked I enjoyed Sunbather very much.

          • since we have a different opinion of the album, we shall commence the name-calling. oh wait, this is the Toilet!!

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            The album is so good though! I know it’s not technically metal and they look like Abercrombie and Fitch models but I enjoyed it. It’s not my favorite album of the year but it’s sure better than last year’s Megadeth album which I bought the limited edition of. I didn’t expect it to be bad but alas it was. It was also much better than last year’s Spock’s Beard record. I hated that album so much and I loved the one before it. Anyway, I think you should give it another chance.

          • i’ve chanced it over three times, i’ve seen them live, i’ve watched YouTube performances. i see no direction at all in their songs, they seem long for the sake of being long. they force short, phoned-in interludes between the long songs. i’m okay with it not being metal, as i like tons of non-metal. but to me, it’s not cool to cherry pick a few staples of heavy metal and mix ’em in with something that will definitely sell to hipsters.
            am i calling you a hipster? no way! but seeing them live… room full of hipsters. then when Deafheaven was finished, they all left (nobody wanted to see BTBAM). that’s SO WEIRD to me. they weren’t fans of metal.
            sorry for shitting on an album that you like. no offense whatsoever, these are just my feelings. i love you.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I love that album and I understand where you are coming from. I hate hipsters and I would never see any concerts that are for hipster bands. I just like the music, it haunts me like an otherworldly spirit. I do love BTBAM and that is insulting that those people wouldn’t stay for their performance. I like them because they have Victory Records almost as much as I do. I feel bad for my friend’s band Meridian as they’re signed to Victory. They’re releasing an album in September.

          • when Meridian puts out some music, you should share it with all us turds in the toilet!!

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I will see. I know one of the members as we went to high school together. I will share it with you when I find it. It may not be liked though as it is the kind of music that Victory Records puts out that is technically crap but these guys are amazing so I think they’ll do well.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I want to see them. They’re performing a two day festival with Swans and them headlining that Saturday and a band called Endless Boogie who is apparently a legendary New York psychedelic band headlining that Friday. It’s called Basilica Soundscape and it’s about an hour from my house. Should I go?

          • if @disqus_4E0xQtrX2p:disqus finds out you skipped a Swans show, you’ll never hear the end of it! mos def go.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I will go. I live near a train station and I can take the train up there and end up right near the venue as it’s in Hudson which is an hour away from me.

    • Mother Shabubu III

      Sir, I’d like to shake your hand. DsO is one of the those few “metal” bands I think transcend the genre purely because it’s masterfully crafted to the point where it can be appreciated by non-metal fans/musicians. They should be a monument in modern metal music too.

      DsO is a force that emits more atmosphere and aura than any black metal band ever has. And their recording quality is good enough where you can hear the textures and not just some awful buzzing.

      • Howard Dean

        [outstretches hand, returns shake]

        Well said, sir. I agree wholeheartedly.

        • Metaphysical Anus

          Can I get in this hand shaking?

          • Mother Shabubu III

            Sure. Just grab my short arm.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Okay m8. I like short arms.

          • Mother Shabubu III

            I hope you can like Sperm Whale then. That’s what my short arm has been nicknamed, and not just because of the scars from mating and battles with other short arms either!

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Is it the hand you use to masturbate?

    • these words you say. pure gold.
      DO are unfuckwithable.

    • Keegan Lavern Still

      YES. That is all.

    • RuIN?

      Is it a coincidence that they are from the same country as Gojira? I think not.

  • Knight Solaire

    I feel like we’re going to keep on evolving a mix of melody and brutals, to the point where we get a melodeath album that hits life a suffocation album

    • Beunhaas

      Omnium Gatherum is a bit of this, epic melodeath with beautifully cheesy guitar stuff, along with incredibly deep grinding ‘brutal’ vocals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex1Rh7wPo3c

      • Knight Solaire

        Omnium Gatherum are pretty great, although I feel it’ll be more geared towards a WFIKTBD era At The Gates

      • Not Vincent Bennett

        I love this. On my Wrestler Rating scale this gets a rating of Ric Flair. That means it’s amazing and even though it has kind of gotten old it still is awesome for everyone.

  • Beunhaas

    I’m joining everyone else and say that the recent wave of weird metal, Artificial Brain, Pyrrhon, Portal, latest Gorguts, Ulcerate, are the really interesting new and innovative stuff right now. I also want to give a shout out to Altar of Plagues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok454hznwoc

    • Metaphysical Anus

      That album. That fucking album. Dammit Altar of Plagues, you make your best album and break up!

      • W.

        iknorite

        • Metaphysical Anus

          Ai now wat u sayin brah.

    • Keegan Lavern Still

      …Excuse me while I jizz at the thought of that masterpiece of an album.

      *SPURT* *SPURT* *SQUELCH* *SPURT*

      • Metaphysical Anus

        Can I catch it in my mouth while we listen to this?

        • Keegan Lavern Still

          Yes, silly! Isn’t that what mutual masturbation and small orgies are for?

    • omg, how could i forget about dat album? wish i had it on my Zune to listen to after work. whole thing is good, but…
      Reflection Pulse Remains

      • W.

        You also have a Zune?

        I love you, McNulty.

        • DID WE JUST BECOME BEST FRIENDS???
          yup, Zune HD 32GB. won’t get anything else. in fact, i had to install a Windows XP virtual machine on my Linux computer JUST so that i can load my songs and podcasts!! Zune is the only reason to have Windows in my life (shudders…)

          • W.

            I’ve still got a 120GB one I got four years ago. I don’t use it everyday, but it is especially choice when I’m travelling.

          • “did you hear people found a new way to prevent the stealing of iPods? they created a cover that looks like a Zune”

          • Stockhausen

            I whip out the heck out of my Zune when I travel, then also when I get into some deep discographies and art music.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I never had a Zune but I know someone who did and I know someone who still does.

          • I used to have the Zune HD and an 80 Gb Zune. Good hardware but I hated the software and marketplace.

            What’s your Linux distro of choice?

          • i use the missionary position of distros: Ubuntu! Unity doesn’t piss me off like it does so many other people.

          • Ubuntu’s good. Linux is Linux. I never understood all tears from Linux people about Unity. How hard is it for a Linux-user to just install a different GUI?

            I personally don’t mind Unity. That Amazon Shopping Lens pissed a bunch of people off too (also easily disabled.) I’m primarily an OS X user but I have Linux installed on one real and a few virtual machines.

      • Stockhausen

        ZUNE BROTHERS UNITE.

        • Occams_Razor_Ramon

          I had a Zune once. Strange times, my friends

    • Stockhausen

      Love that album.

    • Negrodamus

      Teethed Glory and Injury is so tight, WIFE is cool but comes nowhere near it.

      • Virgil

        That’s a great album, I haven’t bought wife yet. I really enjoyed Czar, Batillus, Storm of Light, and MotA from last year. Have you listened to Cocksure? That’s some fun industrial music.

        • Negrodamus

          Of that group, I am only familiar with Batillus and Mouth of the Architect, Cocksure is a hell of a name for a group though! Lol.

          • Virgil

            A Storm of Light is one of my favorites. It is lead by Josh Graham guitar from Battle of Mice and Red Sparrows. The Encyclopedia labled them apocalyptic post rock/ doom. Czar consists of members (I believe) of DJ? Acucrack and Acumen Nation early Chicago industrial. Czar is great. Cocksure is Chris Connelly (Ministry, Revolting Cocks, Pigface, and Jason Novak of Czar and Acumen Nation). They have a Revco sound that is just fun and hilarious.

  • Tyree

    I’ve never heard black metal like Skáphe. I think their S/T album is sort of gate opener for black metal. This is definitely a top 10 album for me this year.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KKh4ZNKHaY

    • Virgil

      This has been a great year for metal. Their are great CDs like Mournful Congregation, Lantlos, Indian, and Agolloch, that won’t even make my top 10 this year.

      • Janitor Jim Duggan

        My album of the year is Behemoth’s The Satanist. It’s as simple as that. A runner up would be the new Emptiness album and I think the new Electric Wizard album will be on that list. I also want to put this year’s Mayhem album on there with Opeth and Fallujah’s albums. I also feel that I’m going to put the new In Flames album on there as well as the new At The Gates album. I’m not sure about the other two but I feel that Ace Frehley’s new album and I can’t think of another one. The new In Flames album will only be on the list so I can have at least 9 albums because I can’t think of a tenth.

        • Virgil the Ghost Poet

          My favorite so far: Godflesh, The Atlas Moth, Nux Vomica, Horseback, Cocksure (they might not be considered metal but I like it), Stoic Dissintation, Cormorant, Indian, Helms Alee, Prong.
          I’m looking forward to Godflesh, Inter Arma, Melvins, Lord Dying, Withered, Forest of Stars, ect.
          And I still haven’t bought Triptikon and Echoes.

  • Guppusmaximus

    I think I would’ve been qualified to answer this question 5-10 years ago but ever since Cynic & Atheist took a nose dive and Exivious’ last offering was tad bit underwhelming, I really don’t have my finger on the pulse anymore.

    Personally, if the future of Metal is here, I need to borrow Doc Brown’s DeLorean so I can go back to 1990 because this new shit is for the birds. #grumpyoldmen

    Side note: this is fucking hilarious

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5KQQWlIgGc

    • Janitor Jim Duggan

      I love this way too much.

  • JWG

    The future of metal is always in the future. If it weren’t, it would be the present.

    But seriously. Bands that exist now that may shape future directions in metal could be right under our collective noses and we’re too busy looking down at them (or around them) to admit that, yes, they could be massively influential (as much as we don’t like that notion). Or maybe the ones we want to be influential will be influential, but for all the wrong reasons.

    Or maybe they won’t. At all. Subjectivity makes it really hard to predict the game-changers without a few years worth of evidence, at which point you’re in the future you were trying to predict anyway.

    • Guppusmaximus

      “Subjectivity makes it really hard to predict the game-changers without a few years worth of evidence”

      I think that’s true nowadays because the “Jazz” element was introduced quite a while ago. Still, I don’t feel that we are missing as much as you might think because with a lot of these bands that people suggest on this fantastic website, I do not hear too much experimentation like I did with the wave of Technical Death Metal from the early 90s. Just my .02

  • Metaphysical Anus

    King 810 is clearly the best band there ever will be.

    • Janitor Jim Duggan

      No man, Emmure and Babymetal are the best bands ever!

      • Metaphysical Anus

        While they are some of the best bands around, they have nothing on the King.

      • did you see Vince’s article about Marty Friedman that went to Rolling Stone? sure enough… the topic changed over to Babymetal. no fooling.

        it’s almost like they’re paying him to advertise.

        • Janitor Jim Duggan

          I have a feeling that is the case. That and Vince probably can’t stop blowing his load over their existence.

  • Cock of Steele

    I feel like rock music in general has evolved and advanced so much in these past 50 years that it’s harder to find any REALLY fresh, new ideas without getting too wacky.

    • W.

      I’m genuinely curious if metal will eventually branch out more and more into diverse implementation. I think bands have set a precedent for what other string instruments can do in metal, and Botanist does neat stuff with a hammered dulcimer.

      • Metaphysical Anus

        I want to get a hammered dulcimer so bad. Only if I knew someone that makes them.

  • AnthrallicA

    Yes, the future of metal is here. How do I know? Because it seems like the newer/newest metal bands I try listening to just frighten and confuse me. I DONT LIKE CHANGE! Fuuuuuuuturrrrrrrre….Fuuuuuuuturrrrrrrre…….Fuuuuuuuturrrrrrrre

  • DeeSnarl

    “niggling” – that’s racist.

    • I KNEW someone was going to do that.

      • DeeSnarl

        I’m here to pluck the low-hanging fuit….

        • Keegan Lavern Still

          Hanging so low it’s practically a potato.

          • DeeSnarl

            Heh

        • Because the high-class fruit is not gonna fuck me
          But the low-class fruit is sweet chunky monkey

    • stop being so niggardly.

      • DeeSnarl

        Yeah, I though about going there, too…

  • Paris Hilton

    The future of metal lies with me. I have returned!!!!

    -PARIS HILTON

    • You seriously have no idea how much I’ve missed you, bby.

      • Paris Hilton

        Know what I miss? Oreo-Os Breakfast Cereal.

        • Elite Extremophile

          Yet another brilliant innovation lost to the sands of time.

        • Metaphysical Anus

          That was a thing?

          • Paris Hilton

            Yes, and they were glorious.

        • Janitor Jim Duggan

          You remember those too? I loved those as a kid! Also, they still sell them in Japan. I saw a box of them on Amazon for 10 dollars and 50 cents.

        • That shit was gross.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            Those were good! I used to buy boxes of them from this pharmacy chain in the mall near me. The chain was called Phar Mor and this was a subsidiary of that chain called Pharmhouse. They aren’t a chain anymore because their owner was embezzling money to finance a basketball league that failed. They went bankrupt shortly after that yet they survived. The damage had been done though and the whole chain died in 2002. I used to go there every time I went to the mall it was in and get a bottle of Surge before I went to the Media Play store next door to it. That mall was nice as it had those two stores and an amazing Japanese store that sold manga and Japanese action figures. I bought a box of Japanese Transformers from Takara from that store. Also, they need to bring back Surge.

          • Oreo-O’s were terrible, but Surge was amazing. I’d love for them to bring it back.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            You might want to go on Facebook and like this page called SURGE Movement. It’s a page with almost 130,000 likes that wants to bring back Surge and they will not rest until it comes back. The fruit of their labors might be realized soon as they have been withdrawing Mello Yello from soda fountains and this photo was taken in a grocery store a few weeks ago. Note that next to the world Sprite it says Surge. It may be back soon and when that happens the old man inside me will be very happy. I haven’t had Surge since 2002 when I was 15. I loved Surge with all my heart and when it was discontinued I shed a single manly tear for the loss of my favorite soda from middle school.

    • Metaphysical Anus

      Welcome back! We’ve all missed you.

    • <3

      • Stockhausen

        That’s why they call you Joe <3'nkill.

        Totally done after that one, by the way.

        • Metaphysical Anus

          I damn hope so.

        • Occams_Razor_Ramon

          That’s why they call you Donehausen

      • Paris Hilton

        😉

    • Stockhausen

      He/she’s back! Wooooooo!!

    • Keegan Lavern Still

      Huzzah! Huzzah!

    • Janitor Jim Duggan

      Huzzah! The queen of metal has come back!

    • Randall Thor

      While you were gone, everyone converted to the true majesty of power metal

      • Metaphysical Anus

        Don’t spread your damn propaganda!

      • Janitor Jim Duggan

        You may have, but I have been converted to the Dream Theater and Symphony X fanbases.

      • Paris Hilton

        Power metal, you say? It’s time to stuff those nerds back into the lockers where they belong!!

        • Knight Solaire

          Even I, formerly Satan ov Hell have bowed to power metal. Look at what I have become.

      • not true! though i started liking a little doom.

  • Stockhausen

    There was a while where I was stuck on the same metal bands and listening to way more non-metal stuff. Nowadays, I can hardly keep up with everything awesome I’m coming across. Part of that is how much I’ve been digging in and not necessarily what’s always been out there, but quite honestly the best stuff I’ve found is current. We’re breaking some new ground, I’d say.

    • group hug.

      • Metaphysical Anus

        I want in that group hug.

        • well guess what… group hug is taking place at MDF next year! now you gotta go!

          • Metaphysical Anus

            You sly bastard! I can’t come there, it’s too far away.

          • oh all right. i’ll come to Finland

          • Metaphysical Anus

            You are going to regret that so much.

  • Janitor Jim Duggan

    Hey W, how do you fell about Road Warrior Hawk and his love of your favorite bird?

  • Warheart

    Being in Metal for many years, I haven’t seen anything really (REALLY) new since the early waves of black metal, and even that can be seen as an inversion of the death metal aesthetics, which is an extreme form of the thrash bands, who comes from the hardening of the heavy/punk scenes, and that…whatever.

    If any, maybe the proliferation of avant-garde bands could be a new future, but since the concept of the genre itself evades the massification of a single style, I doubt we will see a new genre emerging from these fields.

    So yes, the future is already here, it has been here since many years ago, damn, this could even be argued from a dialectic point of view, but I’m not in the mood for that.

    It’s like there’s really no more innovation, but clever ways to get the same goals.

    • well hello there friend, i don’t think we’ve met! after a bit of stalking i see that you like Linux AND metal! instant broship.

      • Warheart

        Hi man, nice to know another Linux fellow in this toilet.

  • Janitor Jim Duggan

    I know that the future of metal is here and so far it sucks. Sadly, the future of metal is bands like FFDP and dare I say it Emmure. There is no way that it should be possible but it is. Bands like FFDP are selling out huge venues and Emmure is rising up to the top slowly but surely. I don’t want the future of metal to be these commercialized bastard children of great metal but alas it is. People are buying these band’s products and seeing them live. There is enough money being made from these bands that their labels are profitting from them. I don’t want to know what will be coming once Emmure and FFDP start to lose steam. I fear for metal because all the big metal genres have had their time for commercial success and I don’t want to know what genre will make it big next.

    • metal is an anomaly in the music world, don’t worry everything is going to be fine.

      • Janitor Jim Duggan

        Thank god for that. I was worried for a second.

  • Huggy Bear OH YEAH

    It’s not the future as in “total innovation”, but I do love what’s going on in the stoner scene right now, I don’t think it’s ever been as vital. And the whole occult rock revival mixes a really cool idea with more modern sensibilities. I always heard 60s/70s rock and metal and thought “needs oomph” or “needs some more familiar approaches”. and boom, I wake up in 2014 and there it is.