Washington Think Tank with W.: Does your favorite band deserve the spotlight?

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Things have been too peaceful lately here in the good ol’ US of ToH. I miss the fire and the fury of campaign year, when brother is pitted against brother, dog against cat, and death metal nerds against black metal virgins. Where’s the rage? Where’s the vicious circle pit in the comments? We’re far too united in our hatred for djent, now, and I believe the toilet needs an enemy. So, barring any embarrassing Jack Bauer slip-ups I can turn into soundbites, I’m going to do what I do best and attack some unwitting civilians. Feel the fury of the Washington Think Tank.

Today’s Question: Does your favorite band deserve the spotlight?

We all know that Metalcore is terrible. Nearly every single band that was ever birthed from that liberal cesspool in New England is an absolute turd. Yet, amazingly, some of them are somehow absolutely gigantic, reaching superstar status through sheer dumb luck.

Exhibit A: Killswitch Engage

I honestly don’t think there is anything particularly noteworthy or unique about what Killswitch is doing or has ever done. Sure, Alive or Just Breathing and the End of Heartache are sometimes held in high esteem and featured some okay tracks, but they aren’t nearly as unique (or even interesting) as we’ve all been led to believe. Adam D. just ripped off At the Gates and haphazardly slapped some awful clean vocals into the choruses. Where’s the passion? Where’s the heavy? I contend that Killswitch are as big as they are due to a case of right place/right time. The fortuitous aligning of the stars enabled them to overshadow all of the other acts that ever played metalcore, which is a crying shame, because the scene spawned at least one good band.

Exhibit B: Himsa

Himsa were a fantastic ‘core band that unfortunately flew under the radar. Their final album, Summon in Thunder was an absolute tour-de-force with which I can find no fault.

  • Just the right amount of melody? Check!
  • Harmonized, Maiden-esque leads? Check!
  • Varied, unique song structures? Check!
  • Thoughtful album construction? Check!
  • And lastly and most importantly, no clean vocals? Check!

Himsa had everything you could ever want from a metalcore band, yet they sadly broke up in 2008 and faded into obscurity. With them, any creativity that was left in the subgenre trickled away into nothingness. Alas.

So this is where you come in. Which band do you think is totally undeserving of the spotlight? Which band was simply in the right place at the right time? Which band is criminally underrated? Which band should have been huge but never was? Has ol’ Dubya been drinking too much of Cheney’s cough syrup?

Sound off in the comments below.

Don’t know what the Washington Think Tank is? This is a weekly column where your former President poses a pressing question and allows the top minds at the Toilet ov Hell to investigate his query.

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  • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

    Exodus sure as hell deserves the spotlight more than Slayer.

    • W.

      They definitely haven’t been making the same album for the last twenty years.

      • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

        Kerry King just released a tab book for everything after divine intervention of his parts! “0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0” …hold on, it’s a box of fruity loops.

        • Lord Ov Kapsko

          He’s playing pacman with his guitar.

    • Howard Dean

      I agree that Exodus deserved more spotlight than what they had in their heyday, and that they deserve more spotlight currently than Slayer does (since they are actually still making decent music), but I can never and will never discredit classic Slayer. First three albums + Haunting the Chapel are stone cold classics of thrash, and rightfully elevated Slayer to the upper echelon of the genre. Of any of the Big Four, I would replace Anthrax. They were the redheaded stepchild, vastly inferior to the other 3, even though I like some of their stuff. I think Exodus would have made a better “4th” in the Big Four.

      • W.

        Or Testament IMO

      • KJM

        Megadeth is the overrated band of that bunch IMO.

        • I DISAGREE AND I WILL FIGHT EVERYONE. GRAAAAAAAH

        • Howard Dean

          MegaDave may be a megadouche now, but he did give us Killing Is My Business…, Peace Sells…, Rust in Peace, and Countdown to Extinction. Those are four pretty great albums, and for me, better than anything Anthrax ever did.

          • W.

            @Occams_Razor_Ramon:disqus likes to play Megadeth Roulette and put all of their music on shuffle. You never know if you’ll get a gem or a turd.

          • KJM

            Out of the 4, Megadeth were/are the sloppiest live(saw them 3 times) and I only like their 1st 2 discs. All 5 times I saw Anthrax, they killed it and sounded great.

            Yeah, I’d have to go with Megadeth as the most overrated of The Big 4, keeping in mind that I don’t like any of the albums released by The Big 4 since about 1990.

          • in a few hours, @dario_argento:disqus is going to step in and praise Anthrax.
            …but i agree, i’ve seen Anthrax twice since Joey was allowed to re-join the band and both times they slayed.

          • W.

            Anthrax do kill it live.

      • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

        I’ve seen anthrax as the token NYC band.

      • Gurp

        Dude. For real. Anthrax. Saw them live and they had a killer show, but their records are just so… SIMPLE.

  • Metaphysical Anus

    I could rustle so many jimmies…

    • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

      Do it!

      • Metaphysical Anus

        I’m kind of afraid.

        • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

          Don’t worry, they wont be able to hunt you down in Finland, because Finland is imaginary.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            That is true. Plus, we have a magnificent beast here to protect us.

          • Elite Extremophile

            Panties be droppin’

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Swag and lots of money is a good combination.

    • W.

      Rustle away. That’s what we do here.

    • Guest

      . . .

    • Tyree

      Chocolate jimmies. No rainbow.

  • I’m just here to talk shit on Killswitch.

    • One of my good friends is an absolute Killswitch fanboy, even has their fucking logo tattooed on himself. Ugh, such a mediocre band.

    • Stockhausen

      Let’s hang. Beer and bash session?

      • Cock of Steele

        To attain true poser killing power, you’re gonna need some spiked wrist gauntlets.

        • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

          I have some from when I was 15 you can all borrow.

        • Edward Meehan

          … and here I thought you would just need a Cock of Steele.

          Zing!

    • Randall Thor

      Nothing kills metalcore posers faster than trve black thrash

      http://youtu.be/5w-hE7srZkc

      • Howard Dean

        Fuckin’ right! Nocturnal!! Byaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!

        • Randall Thor

          Even the brightest of power metal champions must know the darkness to face it

      • Xan

        How have I never heard of this. I am overcome with majesty.

        • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

          their new vocalist shreds her chords, and I don’t mean to brag but I’ve seen her hoo-hah

          • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

            I’m satan, I’ve seen everyone’s hoo-hah of course.

    • Gurp

      They totally dropped off my radar after they got rid of Howard Jones. Shame he can’t find a band to fit his voice.

  • Tyree

    I can’t name you one Killswitch Engage or Himsa song. I’m sure I’ve heard songs from each band but I honestly have no clue what they sound like or what they have done.

    • Edward Meehan

      I like Killswitch’s cover of Holy Diver, other than that I am not very familiar with their work either.

      EDIT / UPDATE: I listened to Himsa once cause of W. and I thought they sounded pretty good.

      • Tyree

        Oh right, that song was on the radio for the longest time when I was a delivery guy.

      • W.

        You aren’t missing out on much. Also, I can’t wait for Howard Dean to show up here, because I bet has a theory regarding Killswitch’s rise to stardom.

        • Edward Meehan

          You bet HD has a theory?

          • W.

            Yep. Gotta wait till he arrives, though.

          • W.

            Hey @disqus_SuTZzQbXC5:disqus, do you think there are any reasons for why KSE got so big?

          • Howard Dean

            Sorry to get here so late. I must admit that the immensity of this comment section is daunting, and I just barely got down this far.

            Metalcore is probably the subgenre of metal I know the least about, so you’ll have to bear with me and take any of this with a grain or two of gunpowder (and tell me if I don’t know what I’m talking about). I always thought KSE got so big due mostly to their timing (the early-to-mid 2000’s metalcore boom), place (Massachusetts metalcore “royalty” — same effect being from Norway had for shitty rip-off black metal bands), and because they had some type of intangible crossover effect and appeal with women and “fringe-listeners.” I remember a few girls in high school being into them who weren’t otherwise into Shadows Fall or Trivium and that ilk. I don’t know if they put forth some type of easily digestible teenage girl emotion and angst in their music that no other bands were able to muster?! I can’t say if KSE did something different with their music than the other metalcore bands of their era, because I’ve probably only heard two of their songs and never really listened to metalcore (I was honestly the guy that never got into the metalcore/deathcore scene, as elitist as that may sound).

          • W.

            No apologies necessary, Governator. I think you’re spot-on with the accessibility analysis. I’ve known quite a few people who weren’t really into metal who liked Howard Jones’s singing.

    • W.

      Luckily for you, I’ve linked several Himsa songs here.

      • Tyree

        I probably just ignored them 😉

        • W.

          I’m going to tell George Clarke about your new love.

          • Tyree

            Oh yeah!?

  • I LOVE GOJIRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII WILL BRING NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MATERIALLLSSS IN THE AFTERRR LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TAAAAAAAAAKE NO POSSEESSSIONNNNNNS, I WOULD RATHER TRAVEL LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHTT!!!!

    GL

    • W.

      I too, love Gojira. I stand united with you there, GL.

      • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

        I love them, but they are overrated a little.

    • Ferris Mueller

      I get Gorjia, they do sound a little different from the rest but different isn’t always better. That said, Gorjia is better than most but not deserving of their MASSIVE hype.

  • Tyree

    The spotlight scares me Dubya. It can be a blessing or a curse sometimes I feel.

    • W.

      It’s a cruel mistress.

      • Tyree

        I find bands that are not in the spotlight much more exciting. There is more of a mystique and excitement about bands that get no attention. Most of the time they are way fucking better too. I could name tons of bands that get no spotlight that are way better then bands that get everything.

        • W.

          I think that applies to most forms of music, except maybe jazz and classical. The masters are masters for a reason.

  • Elite Extremophile

    I may get crucified for saying this, but I never thought Gojira was quite as innovative as everyone claims. All I ever seem to hear is heavy riffs and a shit ton of pick slides. I still think they’re great, just not as inventive as everyone says.
    *prepares for rustled jimmies and death threats*

    • I agree with you, cat.

      • It is the emotion that is created for me, not so much the riffs.

        Listening to their music is almost like a spiritual experience for me…

        GL

        • I’m not a Gojira fan but I do love the hell out of this.
          http://vimeo.com/61510123

          • Elite Extremophile

            I knew what video that was before it loaded and wholeheartedly concur with your statement.

        • SMOHLG

          Both times I’ve seen them live it was pretty much just that… A spiritual experience.

          • W.

            Cosigned.

    • Stockhausen

      I’m gonna throw hot peeled oranges at you!

      • Elite Extremophile

        Yum!

      • W.

        Filled with mayonnaise.

    • CÖÄL RÖLL FRÖM THE TÖILET BÖWL

      agreed

    • W.

      I’ll give you another one. I’ve listened to the new Fallujah album only a few times. I actually forgot about it. I definitely don’t think they’re the second coming of death metal.

      • Elite Extremophile

        I’m right there with you, I was so ready to finally be a fan of the next big thing and just… it didn’t really do anything for me.

      • I love both Fallujah and Gojira but I don’t think either one are trve innovators of metal. They’ve injected interesting elements, but they haven’t been entire game-changers.

        • W.

          I think part of the problem is that it can be really hard to identify a game changer at the time. No one really knew how Meshuggah or Neurosis would shape the musical landscape when they were dropping their breakthrough albums.

          That said, Fallujah won’t be anywhere near my top 10.

          • Edward Meehan

            After listening to a couple of the other “big” or “ToH favorite” death metal albums from 2014, I think it’s still Artificial Brain by a landslide for me and my best of list. Artificial Brain is this year’s Colored Sands in my humble opinion. Pyrrhon is something… different.

          • W.

            Cosigned, E.

          • Howard Dean

            DEAD CONGREGATION OR LEAVE THE HALL

            I kid, I kid. Artificial Brain is really good stuff.

          • Tyree

            HAIL DEAD CONGREGATION!!!!

          • Howard Dean

            m/

          • W.

            I still really need to listen to Dead Congregation. I remember it killing, but I don’t think I gave it enough due.

          • Hail Dead Congregation, Hail HD.

          • Howard Dean

            Hail Flaccid Penis ov Cvlter. m/

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            The real you emailed me yesterday asking me for money, that mother fucker. Doesn’t he know that I need to buy new CDs and stuff. The new Earth sounds awesome.

          • Gurp

            Is their new album really all that? I heard Graves of the Archangels, it just sounded like Krisiun worship to me.

          • Simon Phoenix

            Lol DC sounds nothing like Krisiun.

            And yeah, the new album is amazing.

          • Gurp

            I disagree. Constant tremolo picking and blast beats is Krisiun’s playbook. The only thing they’re missing are 2 minute dueling guitar solos.

          • Lord Ov Kapsko

            I’ve tried to fore myself to like Artificial Brain but I can’t. Cormorant is way better.

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            Cormorant is really good.

          • W.

            🙁

          • Edward Meehan

            That’s from this year yeah? I meant to check it out but I think it got lost in the shuffle.

          • Occams_Razor_Ramon

            I think it has settled into my top 10, but I don’t think it is the earth shattering scene changer a lot of people are claiming. Its a great tech death album that I can totally lose myself in, but it didn’t make me touch myself like, say, Crack the Skye or Colored Sands did

          • Tyree

            Where dose Meshuggah rank?

          • W.

            For me personally? They’re my favorite metal band. There, I said it.

          • Tyree

            Sort of figured Dub.

          • W.

            I don’t care if other people dislike them, though. They were basically my gateway into extreme metal.

          • Tyree

            I listened to my fair share of Meshuggah back in high school. I sort of got bored with them though. I’d still like to see them live.

          • W.

            They are really good live. Part of it is the atmosphere. I like the fact that they have a lot of lights behind them, so you mostly just see their outlines.

          • Stockhausen

            They are a hulking monstrosity of a live band.

          • Keegan Lavern Still

            Especially when they cycle through “In Death – Is Life”, “In Death – Is Death”, and “Shed” in order. Man, oh man is that a glorious event.

          • W.

            The In Death suite can be boring on CD (not to me, but to some), but it is great live.

          • Simon Phoenix

            Meshuggah themselves are not the problem. The hundreds of bands that steal their guitar sound without understanding how they made said tone amazing are the problem.

            That being said, I didn’t like Koloss.

          • W.

            Yah, almost all of the djent bands are totes flushable.

          • everything up to — and including — “I” cannot be flushed.

          • W.

            <3 you McNulty.

          • Stockhausen

            I really dug the Fallujah (as I said in my review), but it’s definitely not a game changer. I like what they do a lot, but if I get a little but sidetracked while listening to that album it seems like four songs have gone by without my noticing.

          • Lord Ov Kapsko

            We already have Necrophagist, it’s like achieving warp speed by humans. That’s it.

          • Stockhausen

            The thing I like about Necrophagist is that they had tunes that were a lot more memorable than most bands in their realm. A little bit of that got lost on Epitaph, but Onset had some killer songs that stood apart and were memorable.

        • SMOHLG

          The bottom line for me with Gojira is that they absolutely kill it live and make me want to eat weights at the gym. I’ve never thought of them as innovative, but I love their tunes.

          • Occams_Razor_Ramon

            Vacuity makes me want to lift all the weights

          • Cock of Steele

            Don’t let SMOHLG listen to Gojira, he eats enough weights already.
            -SMOHLGFAX-

      • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

        There was too much going on with fallujah was my problem with it. Everyone was all “THIS IS THE FUTURE, AMBIENT TECH DEATH METAL” and for me I just felt, it didn’t mix.

        • Randall Thor

          Warrior, stand proud

        • Cock of Steele

          I can’t get into Fallujah right now, I’m dealing with a raging nostalgia boner for early 80s Motorhead, Priest, and Maiden.

          • KJM

            It’s not nostalgia if they’re still the best Metal ever, which they are.

          • Cock of Steele
          • Randall Thor

            I am so proud of this section of the comments

          • Cock of Steele

            I have a question for you, would you consider this a marriage between thrash and power metal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7MqqMm97Co

          • Randall Thor

            It certainly has a lot of American power metal sounds going on in here, but personally, I wouldn’t consider this a power/thrash album. It leans more speed than power. Metal Archives says they’re power/thrash, so what do I know.

            Here is some great power thrash tho: http://youtu.be/YWfUXzefskE

          • W.

            That album is fantastic.

          • crazytaco_12

            Fuckin’ Helloween’s “Walls of Jericho” man, holy fuck that has got to be one of the best power/thrash albums of all time. Early Savatage shit is great too, though maybe not thrash. Btw, I actually definitely dig F&J’s “When the Storm Comes Down” album, some fucking good tracks on that album

          • Stockhausen

            I’ll joust you over the topic.

          • FeelTheDarkness

            This is everyday of my life. I listen to 80’s metal on a everyday basis. Sorry but you can’t deny it’s awesomeness

          • Xan

            I’ve been making my way through Maiden’s discography on the way to class everyday. I just finished Powerslave and am greatly pleased.

          • Cock of Steele

            Powerslaveis possibly my favorite album next to Killers and Seventh Son. that to me was literally their highest creative peak and the reason why Somewhere in time was a little bit of a disappointment after that haha.

          • Lord Ov Kapsko

            Flash ov the blade punches the nutsack.

          • Xan

            Aces High, 2 Minutes to Midnight, and Powerslave are among my favorites from the albums.

        • Lord Ov Kapsko

          Axl was the only one who said this. And we all know that Axl is a poser.
          The flush prevails is a cool album though.

      • SMOHLG

        I preordered it and was anticipating it big time. Now I hardly listen to it, I get kinda bored even though overall it is good music.

        • W.

          That’s a good way to describe it. They have a lot of good elements, but somehow the whole package just isn’t very engaging.

      • Randall Thor

        Fallujah is one of the most over-hyped bands I’ve heard in recent memory. They’re certainly good, but I don’t hear much difference between them and any other modern techy-proggy-we-listened-to-the-faceless-in-high-school core

        • W.

          The hype train was so strong.

          • Tyree

            Goddamn, you aren’t kidding. It was every where and I needed to be quite about it. Glad you are the one to say it first.

        • Howard Dean

          Agreed. And if you are going to rape a band/sound, pick someone better than the fucking Faceless.

          • Randall Thor

            ALl these bands tryin to be the Faceless and the Faceless just tryin to be Necrophagist, and now they tryin to be Devin Townsend.

          • Lord Ov Kapsko

            There were less than 10 days in the last 3 years when I didn’t listen to necrophagist.

          • Randall Thor

            Every minute spent listening to Necrophagist was one minute not spent listening to Bolt Thrower.

            Food for thought.

          • Stockhausen

            Isn’t it great? 🙂

          • Randall Thor

            Going to need something big for this poser right here

            http://youtu.be/BA1vXsO1vUg

          • Stockhausen

            FOUL BODY! AU. TOP. SYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!

          • Lord Ov Kapsko

            Those are the words ov a true wise man.

      • Howard Dean

        Seconding this entirely. x1000. This condition is known as “Fallujah Fellatio.”

        • guilty!

          • Howard Dean

            Well, then get off your knees, wipe your mouth off, and listen to Incantation!

          • in progress, Vanquish In Vengeance currently spinning

          • Howard Dean

            Nice! There is hope! Byah!

      • Scrimm

        YES! Also Himsa was very good.

        • W.

          Dude! Finally someone else who actually knows HImsa.

          • Scrimm

            I really liked Hail Horror and Summon In Thunder.

          • W.

            Summon in Thunder is massively underrated.

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            They were on Danzig’s Blackest of the Black.

        • Virgil the Ghost Poet

          Didn’t that band break up because they all become professors?

          • W.

            I think Pettibone is still around doing stuff.

          • Scrimm

            Don’t know but that’s kind of cool if they did.

      • Lord Ov Kapsko

        Georgie boy, listen to based Sarpanitum. “Before The Walls” punches your ballsack with a force ov a Havel’s Club.

        • you are a soothsayer. @disqus_4E0xQtrX2p:disqus will like them too

          • Lord Ov Kapsko

            I’m Fabio, Sultan Ov Prolapses, Tzar Ov Speculum, Evangelist Ov only smellz.

        • W.

          Aye aye!

        • W.

          This is good stuff!

      • Xan

        I agree. The new album certainly wasn’t bad but it didn’t make me start meat spinning the way other bands do.

      • Sponge Of Mystery

        Finally another person who doesn’t think Fallujah is the new greatest thing ever

      • They’re latest album is their best, but I feel fans of dj0nt would be most appreciative of it. Even though the album itself isn’t djent, it has that mix of pseudo-outer space/inner self exploration that dj0nt fanboys (myself included) splooge over

        • W.

          I can definitely see where you’re coming from with that description. As I think about it, a lot of the people I saw stroking it were huge into djent.

    • Tyree

      Their drummer is the only thing that impresses me about Gojira.

      • W.

        He is beastly

        • Tyree

          He is, there is no denying that.

    • Metaphysical Anus

      I can jump on this train.

    • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

      They’re total crap. What you’re saying should be considered so far from controversial.

      • Elite Extremophile

        Easy for you to say when no one is throwing mayonnaise filled oranges at you!

        • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

          Valid point. I fucking hate mayo.

          • Elite Extremophile

            It’s so disgusting and chunky. Some kid from my middle school used to fucking put it on pizza, I nearly threw up when I saw it.

          • W.

            That’s revolting.

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            On pizza??? That sacrilegious cunt!

          • W.

            A lot of people down here put ranch on their pizza. It grosses me out.

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            I think I’ve heard that before. Terrifying.

          • Tyree
          • Xan

            I’m not a big dipping sauce man. I’ve never liked ketchup, mustard, mayo, ranch, or much of anything except marinara.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            My cousins put ketchup on pizza.

    • Lord Ov Kapsko

      Gojira is considered innovative because it has this “wall ov sound” moments that makes it sound fresh.

    • Max

      For me, the issue with both Gojira and Meshuggah has always been their songwriting, rather than their artistic approaches. Which is to say that both of them have a distinctive sound – about as much as anybody can ask of a metal band these days. But when it comes to songwriting – well, on any album by either band I’ve ever heard, there are about 2-4 songs that are truly transcendentally good and among the best that metal has to offer. The rest honestly sound like filler. So I agree with you, but from a different perspective.

      • Elite Extremophile

        Yeah, I’m kinda in the same boat. Whales, the heaviest matter of the universe and backbone are great, heavy, unique songs, but the three of them don’t make an album, just a kick ass EP.

      • W.

        I think that’s an interesting point. As I’ve said in this thread, I love both bands and agree that they have distinctive sounds, but not that you’re mentioning it, I can think of several tracks off each album that I skip. I almost never listen to Nothing in its entirety.

  • Stockhausen

    I’m glad I checked out Himsa at your behest, W. Not anything I’d listen to, but I’m like, “Hey, alright. Things are ok with me right now.”

  • Cock of Steele

    Vektor deserves the spotlight.

    • W.

      Then they’re the only thrash band that deserves it right now. Thrash is such a stale genre right now.

      • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

        Too many people worshipping the 80s, not enough people innovating, thrash is essentially a cesspit with a few gems right now. And I listen to alot of thrash metal, thrash is one of my favourite things, but dear lord, these people need to think beyond “I WANNA BE METALLICA”

        • W.

          I think part of the problem is how successful Metallica is.

          • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

            definitely.

          • metallica IS thrash, PERIOD! all hail the danish prophet Lars… m/

        • HessianHunter

          As I said to W., OOZING WOUND
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MCSks7jyPQ

          • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

            I can hear some powerviolence influence in there. Maybe Thrashviolence is the future.

      • i think Warbringer brings the thrash… but that’s just me.

      • Ferris Mueller

        Mantic Ritual’s first album was pretty good thrash. Haven’t heard their new material.

      • HessianHunter

        Oozing Wound begs to differ
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MCSks7jyPQ

        • W.

          I’m gonna check these guys out!

        • Ferris Mueller

          Fuck I have epilepsy. Though I might could give it a try but after 15sec there was no way! The track was rad tho

    • Ferris Mueller

      I found Vektor a few weeks ago and it’s been on constant replay. Fucking love their style.

    • Beunhaas

      YES.

    • MoshOff

      NEW VEKTOR SONG YOU GUYS (audio isn’t great but who cares)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o2iwC59cao

  • Metaphysical Anus

    Deafhaven deserves the spotlight. They revolutionized black metal. Black Metal would be dead without them.

    • CÖÄL RÖLL FRÖM THE TÖILET BÖWL

      + infinity

    • Metaphysical Anus

      ….

      • KJM

        Rustlemania: The Showcase Of The Immortals

    • Tyree

      One of those fucks stole my ladies!

      • Metaphysical Anus

        They are pretty hunky.

        • Tyree

          They are going to meet the wrath of Tyree is what.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Sounds erotic.

          • Tyree

            Trust me it is not.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Oh baby!

          • W.

            George Clarke stole ALL of Tyree’s ladies.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            George Clarke took my jerb!

    • BORING.

      *edit* Deafhaven is boring.

      GL

      • Metaphysical Anus

        I need to come up with something better.

        • Elite Extremophile

          Babymetal are changing metal as we know it?

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Vince is already in that train.

          • Elite Extremophile

            No, his erection is in the train holding the rest of him hostage.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            I don’t want to know where that train is going.

          • Elite Extremophile

            Prison, probably.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            But there’s one stop before that.

  • Cock of Steele

    And Motorhead already has the spotlight.

  • Metaphysical Anus

    One band that’s popularity I honestly don’t understand is Led Zeppelin. THEY STOLE THE BLUES AND MADE IT WORSE!

    • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

      Nice. Although to be fair, they stole all their famous songs. From supporting acts.

      • Metaphysical Anus

        This is not jimmie rustling, btw

  • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

    No band deserves the spotlight. Hail the void.

    • Metaphysical Anus
      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        Touche.

      • FeelTheDarkness

        Void was an awesome band!!!!

    • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

      Does the void have tea and choccy biccies? I won’t hail anything that doesn’t.

      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        Neither. Fear the abyssal rape.

        • Metaphysical Anus

          I can go with abyssal rape. Sounds tempting.

          • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

            Amen!

        • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

          inb4 we learn we attracted social justice warriors from tumblr.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Shhhhh. Don’t say their name!

          • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

            It… IT’S A PLAGUE! I feel the changing in m- die cis scum!

          • Metaphysical Anus

            I feel so offended by this. You are offending people! White people are all racists.

          • Cock of Steele
          • SMOHLG

            Check your privilege!

          • Cock of Steele

            Cissexist post-albeist homophobically classist scum!

  • Guacamole Jim

    I’M GONNA DO IT!!

    I love KsE. Not ashamed. I don’t care much for Howard Jones, but all their work with Jesse Leach I think is awesome.

    • I’M GONNA DO IT TOO!!!

      I love Whitechapel. Not ashamed.

      Their new album is angry and has lots of chugga chugga riffs which are neat!

      Killswitch is always a solid listen.

      PROTEST THE HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!! where the hell is this reply going???

      GL

      • I like Whitechapel. They put together some really solid tunes.

      • W.

        Well, GL just put all of his cards on the table.

        • OH and I like the new Arch Enemy. I have never bought any of their tunes until the new release. Its tasty.

          And asides from any new Gojira in the future, second in line on my excitement meter is anything from Saosin. Now all my cards are on the table.

          GL

          • W.

            That’s a lot to hate in one place 😉

          • I did not know Saosin was still together or had been in like a decade.

          • Well… they are playing select shows. But hells yes, their 2006 and 2008 release was dope.

            GL

          • Randall Thor

            Rise of the Tyrant is the greatest Arch Enemy album and anyone who disagrees is wrong. Stadium Rock + Melodeath is the greatest idea they’ve ever had.

          • W.

            I actually really liked that album. Pretty much everything else has been flushable.

          • Stockhausen

            I’m going to mercilessly mock you in my head for the Saosin thing. But in a nice way.

      • Randall Thor

        I’m responding to all declarations of poserdom with declarations of nuclear blackened thrashened war

        http://youtu.be/6nLbP9RO_fs

        • W.

          Proscriptor is nuts.

          • Randall Thor

            Everything about Absu <3

        • Scrimm

          So badass

      • Virgil the Ghost Poet

        I do not like Protest the Zhero

    • Janitor Jim Dvggan

      I’m even more ashamed to admit I love Hawthorne Heights and I used to love My Chemical Romance. I went to Warped last year just so I could meet Hawthorne Heights. If you’re wondering I have a copy of their album from last year that they signed at that Warped.

  • Occams_Razor_Ramon

    Cradle of Filth. Why the fuck does anybody like Cradle of Filth.

    • Metaphysical Anus

      Does someone like Cradle of Filth?

      • W.

        There was a guy who used to be in the comments on MS who was a total Cradle fanboy.

        • Metaphysical Anus

          That’s one of the reasons why that place is horrible.

          • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

            He had his charm though, what with his flushing ov posers.

          • I was hoping he’d set up shop here. It was not to be.

          • Have faith Papa Joe.

            GL

          • Stockhausen

            I can hoot and holler about Cradle of Filth if you’d like me to.

          • I think he enjoys the flush too much. There is not nearly enough excrement around here to keep such a prolific flusher happy.

            On that note, I vote somebody starts a guilty pleasure column, spanning all genres. ex.: I am in love with lil wyte, he has more than a few bangers and all of his production is crisp thanks to DJ Paul of Three 6 Mafia. However, I totally understand that no one has given a fuck about him since middle school, and even then only as a joke

          • Guilty pleasures are the best. I’m a little hesitant to start new regular columns right now but I’m down with doing one-offs on non-metal stuff folks dig. If you’d like to try your hand at writing just hit me up.

          • I’m only really good at writing term papers and I wouldn’t even know how to begin flushing out an entire post expounding the merit of my shitty tastes in music. I’ll try it out and let you know in the next couple days if I’m able to come up with something I’m happy with.

          • W.

            I’d read it.

          • Hey, man. I really enjoy your posts. Do you think you could look over what I’ve got so far?

          • W.

            Thanks! Did you send it to the Gmail? If so, I’ll try to get to it this weekend!

          • Getting feedback from a few dudebros, but I’m basically done writing this up. Do you have an email I can use? Sidenote: does disqus have direct messaging?

          • Disqus doesn’t have direct messaging, unfortunately. Email me through the main site email: toiletovhell@gmail.com

          • How do I embed youtube videos? As of now, I’ve got text markers where the videos should be.

          • Embedding has to be done in the WordPress system. You can just put the URL in the text draft.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan

            On top of their hatred of Mushroomhead and other nu metal bands that makes me hate them more. They insulted the new Powerman 5000 record which was pretty good for what it was. They insulted the new Mushroomhead album which I loved. Don’t even get me started on the Coal Chamber article.

          • Lord Ov Kapsko

            NuMetal except first Korn and Limp Bizkit is shit. StaticX is shit, dope is shit, 50 other bands are bad.

          • But what about Adema, bro?

          • Lord Ov Kapsko

            Never heared ov them.

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            Another band that didn’t get the respect they deserved is Orange 9mm. That was a great band.

        • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

          Yeah it was RiotAct. He got queer for Paul Allender

          • W.

            Oh yah. That was super weird.

          • Lord Ov Kapsko

            Oh man, that was a bigger shocker for me than T-Lay’s arrest.

      • Occams_Razor_Ramon

        Every teenager on the planet.

        • Metaphysical Anus

          What’s a teenager?

          • Occams_Razor_Ramon

            A vile creature spewed forth from the butthole of the void. If they’re lucky they will eventually transform into this beautiful creature we sometimes call “Humans Beings”

          • Metaphysical Anus

            I don’t associate human beings with anything beautiful.

          • Occams_Razor_Ramon

            Human Beings made GoldenEye for N64.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Never played it. Human beings also made the wars.

          • W.

            You never played GoldenEye? You’re dead to me.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Thanks man, I appriciate it. We didn’t have any games when I was young and I’ve never bought N64.

          • Scrimm

            We have GoldenEye at our rehearsal studio we do multiplayer with no guns all the time. awesome.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan

            Goldeneye is amazing, I had it for the N64 but I no longer have an N64. I did buy the remake for the Wii though and I plan on buying it for the Xbox 360 as I disliked the Wii version. One of my favorite Bond games was Nightfire for Gamecube and Xbox. That had amazing multiplayer, yet not at the level of Goldeneye.

          • We don’t have GoldenEye in Finland.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Wait wait wait! What do you mean “we”?

          • the royal “we”, maaaaaaan!

          • Scrimm

            This human being is beautiful.

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            I’d fuck yea.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan

            This guy right here and all his attractive female friends are so beautiful we make Rick Rude look ugly.

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            Hahaha

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan

            This guy gets it. He probably has seen this match which I have watched once before. It still amazes me that Robert Gibson was still in a wrestling promotion in the year 2000.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPtovSDuaTg

      • Lord Ov Kapsko

        My first experience with Cradle ov Filth was when I gave Thornography a spin. It’s cheesy, but it has some good groove moments.

      • God

        I do….

        • Metaphysical Anus

          But you’re dead.

          • God

            I am neither dead nor alive. I am an enigma *stares into the distance dramatically*

          • Metaphysical Anus

            The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma.

          • Solid Spongebob reference, Anus brother.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            I don’t know if to call you a brother or a sister.

    • I like watching their music videos from time to time. If I’m feeling down, they never fail to make me lol.

      • Occams_Razor_Ramon

        This answer is acceptable.

    • Ferris Mueller

      Fuck you Razor! Next time you land a gig try not getting drunk and falling out the ring at some gymnasium house how in rural Arkansas. Dani’s lyrics are legendary, Cradle’s old shit is great and Manticore wasn’t THAT bad. Once you accept Dani’s vocals aren’t what they used to be and he sings in a new style, the new stuff as a whole is much more listenable.

      • “No” to everything you just said.

        • Ferris Mueller

          Goddammit if you didn’t introduce me to the epic Noble Beast I’d shit on all your powermetal posts forever just for that.

        • Stockhausen

          “Yes” to you, always.

      • Howard Dean

        I’m not a fan of CoF, but I must agree that Dani is an above-average lyricist, even if he’s been trying desperately to transform into Tom Cruise in Interview with a Vampire for the last twenty years.

        • Ferris Mueller

          I actually LOLd

        • Scrimm

          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!

        • Janitor Jim Dvggan

          I like that movie, even though it had the worst cover of Sympathy For The Devil that I have ever heard. I expected better from Guns N Roses.

    • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

      Although mostly pretty shite I dig one or two of their songs, notably Mannequin. Unfortunately they didn’t play it on either of the times I saw them.

    • Janitor Jim Dvggan

      I agree. They are crap and I am amazed that people like them. Also Razor do you have a malt liquor stash? I named an album after you called Scott Hall’s Malt Liquor Stash and I want to know if you have one.

      • W.

        That isn’t Razor Ramon, dude. It’s Occam’s Razor Ramon.

        • Janitor Jim Dvggan

          I know that. Does he have a malt liquor stash?

          • Occams_Razor_Ramon

            The simplest answer is often the correct answer.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan

            Excellent. I’m going to take that as a yes. Do you at least enjoy it when you drink it?

  • W.

    Also, Adam D. is a colossal tool bag.

    • Elaborate, por favor

      • W.

        If you’ve seen him live, you’re probably aware that he wears a tutu and calls himself Princess Man, in addition to making jokes about statutory rape.

        • Scrimm

          He also talked about wanting to fuck all the guys from In Flames.

          • MoshOff

            All I remember is a clip of him going “This song is about when God Forbid went skateboarding. It’s called When Darkness Falls.”

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan

            He sounds like a bizarre man. I may love In Flames but I do admit he took his love of them a bit far.

        • Janitor Jim Dvggan

          He wears a tutu and calls himself Princess Man? This guy seems like a zany nutcase. He probably like getting into shenanigans with his bandmates.

  • SMOHLG

    I just figured KSE had the spotlight. because they were remotely accessible along with the other factors mentioned. Accessible=more fans= ‘spotlight’

    • W.

      Stop bringing your good looks and logic into the conversation, SMOHLG. This is supposed to be a bloodbath in here.

      • SMOHLG

        Oh right. FUCK YOU DUBS YOU HILLBILLY SORRY EXCUSE FOR AN ADMIRAL. AT THE GATES IS FOR POSERS.

  • Simon Phoenix

    I don’t like Revocation. At all.

    There, I said it.

    • holy. flushing. shit.
      INTERROGATION ROOM

      • Janitor Jim Dvggan

        I like Revocation but not as much as Toxic Holocaust. I consider Toxic Holocaust much better than them.

        • Xan

          Toxic Holocaust is the bomb. That’s one of the bands I play whenever I feel like shit because they have such a large library of great agressive music.

        • Lord Ov Kapsko

          Toxic Holocaust are a joint + espresso combo.

      • Simon Phoenix

        Lol, Sorry McNulty, but for me they fall into the “Talented Musicians play Boring Music” category. I don’t need pointless shredding and sweeps in my death/thrash.

        • ah, for you see this is where we disagree (followed with a fight)… i actually think they hold back on the technicality and focus on the songs. a polar opposite might be Spawn of Possession , now THAT’S talented musicianship for the sake of it. then again, that’s not thrash; so i get your point!
          check out this ONE song by them. there is some serious songwriting skills going on (w/o all the flash)
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFrQQJ-sLvY

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            You might want to rethink fighting Simon. He knows how to use the 3 sea shells.

          • Needs more upvotes.

          • crazytaco_12

            This album was fucking great. I will say though that Revocation needs to focus on trimming the fat and releasing shorter albums. On each album there is at LEAST 1 song that I think doesn’t need to be there.

          • Simon Phoenix

            But that’s the thing. I’ve listened to all their albums, including the new one. It just feels and sounds like pointless shredding. Which is fine for say tech death, but not so much for this. They’re just not my thing.

            I’ll meet you halfway and say that Across Forests and Fjords is decent, and that’s about it.

          • if meeting you halfway places us at a Taco Bell, you got yourself a goddamned deal

          • Simon Phoenix

            Cool, but why would you want to dine at that pansy place?

            Have a rat burger instead.

    • I do but I respect your opinion.

    • SMOHLG

      Thank you!

    • W.

      I like them, but I think every one of their albums has several flushable songs. They are better live.

    • Ferris Mueller

      You, sir, are an assface.

    • Scrimm

      I’m with you on this one. I tried but they just don’t do much for me.

    • Tyree

      This post is amazing! Release the fucking hate!

    • Howard Dean

      Cosigned. Why listen to Revocation when we have Vektor?

      • crazytaco_12

        I guess I’ll have to put it out there: Not digging Vektor. I’m still spinning “Outer Isolation” so I can’t really sling the shit too hard (though 1. I don’t like shitting on bands just cause I can, and 2., I’ve listened to the album probably 20+ times already), but yeah, seems to be an obvious ton of riffs, but no real focus on the structure of the song. “Echoless Chamber” is badass, but that’s the only song that really sticks out that great to me.

    • Beunhaas

      I agree with this. The vocals make me want to flip tables.

      • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

        the vocals always kill it for me, like with Warbringer, too teen shout, not enough beer and age on the throat.

    • Randall Thor

      I want to. Really bad. I can’t get past the vocals.

  • GL just reminded me… Arch Enemy blows, probably only in the spotlight for one reason.

    • SMOHLG

      Bewbs

      • W.

        I heard that Angela Gossow quit when she heard that SMOHLG didn’t like her band.
        #SMOHLGFax

        • Janitor Jim Dvggan

          I’ve heard that SMOHLG knows where Elvs is hiding but won’t tell anybody because Elvis wishes to be anonymous and SMOHLG respects that.

          #SMOHLGFax

      • two reasons

      • Janitor Jim Dvggan

        SMOHLG can find New Coke, Crystal Pepsi and Surge in grocery stores near him. SMOHLG can also wear the most unfashionable clothing and still pick up chicks.

        #SMOHLGFax

    • But the riffs are just so solid JJM! The songs are easily digestable, neatly put together, and nicely produced. It just tickled me the right way this time.

      GL

    • Further Down the Metal Hole

      Two reasons? Easy, the first two albums. I like them.

      • i’m actually with you, i like the albums with the old vocalist. once they recruited angela “midsection from heaven” gossow, they got incrediboring.

  • W.

    Oh, and just because no one has said it yet, Trivium sucks too!

    • Metaphysical Anus

      Nooo, theyr tha futru of trahs mital”0!

    • Simon Phoenix

      If you listen real hard, you can hear the sound of JAG’s jimmies being rustled big time.

      And yes I know I spelled rustled wrong.

    • Janitor Jim Dvggan

      I don’t like them either. I saw them live and they were fine but I hated their albums from 2011 and 2013. I’m ashamed to admit I own a signed copy of Vengance Falls. I listened to the album once and I would never listen to it again as it was terrible.

    • Randall Thor

      HAIL, WARRIOR

    • old_man_doom

      Yeah, but Shogun was alright. I still listen to it occasionally. Now I miss DRAIMAN. Wish you were here, bud.

      • W.

        The title track to Shogun is basically the only Trivium song I listen to.

    • Further Down the Metal Hole

      Y’all are crazy, if there ever was an entry level band to get kids into metal, Trivium surely is deserving of the spot.

      I like all their albums for different reasons. I get all the criticism and dislike they get, but their sound just speaks to me really well.

      Can we at least agree that musically, they’re more interesting than KsE? Fan of them too actually, but that’s as far as my metalcore collection goes.

      • W.

        I would say that they definitely have more variety in their sound than KSE, but for some reason Trivium just never struck me as an original or genuine band. But I agree with you that they provide a good entry point.

  • Ferris Mueller

    Coroner. I don’t give a fuck they haven’t put out shit in 20 years. Fucking god-damn Coroner!

    • Agreed, they’re overrated as fuck.

      • Ferris Mueller

        No, I was saying they need some spotlight to teach these kiddies about where our modern shit comes from

      • crazytaco_12

        “You…don’t know nothing!”

  • SMOHLG

    Also, I’ve never heard of Himsa so therefore I will assume they are terrible since I know everything… except Himsa, of course.

    • W.

      They’ll help you lift even more.

  • Overrated: TBDM, BTBAM, Electric Wizard (newer), Ghost

    Underrated: Bloodlet, Brainoil, Buried Inside (RIP), Catharsis, 108

    Right place/right time: Pallbearer

    • Occams_Razor_Ramon

      Stockhausen’s jimmies are getting so rustled from the mention of BTBAM

      • Stockhausen

        Could you hear it? It was super loud.

      • his aren’t the only ones

    • W.

      I don’t think Pallbearer are all that special, so I agree.

    • Stockhausen

      I agree with TBDM, although I don’t altogether dislike them. We may have to go toe-to-toe over BTBAM though. Also, Ghost is mega boring to me.

      • Alaska was my jam when it came out. Just not a fan since. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    • The Black Dahlia Burger

      What makes you say TBDM is overrated?

  • Scrimm

    This is gonna piss some off but since others are being brave HERE IT GOES….. I hate Morbid Angel.

    • Why???

      • Scrimm

        David Vincent for one. I really just never got what made them so good. I also have an old magazine somewhere where Trey was bashing Death’s sound. You don’t do that.

    • Occams_Razor_Ramon

      This is going to confuse a lot of people, but I’ve never really listened to Morbid Angel

      • Scrimm

        I listen to them as little as possible. the only one I own is Gateways.

    • Janitor Jim Dvggan

      I hate everything they did after Domination, I consider everything of theirs after Domination overrated garbage and Illud Divinum Insanus isn’t hated enough.

    • W.

      Gateways to Annihilation is really the only album I like.

      • Janitor Jim Dvggan

        That album was terrible. The only good thing about it was the album cover. I used to hate Morbid Angel because of Illud Divinum Insanus but I forgave them when they toured Covenant.

        • W.

          I disagree. Slowed down death metal tunes with Lovecraftian lyrics? What’s not to like?

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan

            I love Altars of Madness, Blessed are the Sick, Covenant and Domination. I just don’t like anything after those albums.

          • Scrimm

            Ha Gateways is the only one I kind of like.

          • W.

            Scrimm, I feel like you and I are seriously on the same wavelength today.

          • Scrimm

            This is a good thing.

        • Lord Ov Kapsko

          They’re huge live.

      • Further Down the Metal Hole

        The solos on that album opened up a new dimension in my brain. I was still exploring music (must have been around 16) and only familiar with Cannibal Corpse solos in death metal at the time.

      • crazytaco_12

        No “Domination”? That had some slower tracks on it, mind you, I don’t think the album as a whole was great, but there are some great tracks on it

    • Randall Thor

      I like to hate on them, because it’s an easy way to harvest a nice crop of jimmies, but I do love them

    • Tyree
      • Scrimm

        Sorry but it’s true. For the most part I think European OSDM stomps all over American.

        • Gurp

          I’ve seen that sentiment before, and I don’t get it. European and American OSDM doesn’t really have much of a unified sound. Sure, bands from Florida had a thrash influence (it WAS the birthplace of the genre, after all) and Swedish bands all wanted to be Entombed, but really there’s nothing objectively “better.”

          • Lord Ov Kapsko

            What is Unleashed?

          • Gurp

            Unleashed is Swedish death metal that had a bright start before petering out into mediocrity up until pretty recently.

          • Scrimm

            It’s not any unified sound for me, I just think almost all the bands are better.

    • Lord Ov Kapsko

      You just bought yourself a get shot for talking shit ticket from Ice-T.

      • Scrimm

        But I like Body Count so I have a get out of getting shot free card haHA!

    • Metaphysical Anus

      Yeeeeees! Finally I find a brother in hate!

  • Janitor Jim Dvggan

    I consider Queensryche overrated as well as The Moody Blues. Golden Earring, Blue Oyster Cult and Utopia are extremely underrated compared to most bands of their ilk.

  • Cock of Steele

    One has not lived until they’ve witness Judas Priest encore with Hellbent for Leather with their own eyes and ears.

    • W.

      I haven’t lived yet.

      • KJM

        I have!

    • Guppusmaximus

      Yea… The Painkiller Tour was audio bliss.

      *Megadeth was spot on that night (Rust in Peace tour for them)

    • Scrimm
      • Scrimm

        I really like Priest but this fit too perfectly.

  • Guppusmaximus

    Does this have to be limited to “Metal”? If not, then I nominate Manes. Their cover of Cinder Alley from 16 Horsepower was phenomenal and the new ep VNTRVE is really good. I’m glad they didn’t stay broken up…

    • W.

      Let the non-metal fly if you so choose!

    • Janitor Jim Dvggan

      You know who is an underrated rock act? Enforcer from Earache Records is extremely underrated. They’re very good NWOBHM styled rock and they need more recognition. On the other hand White Wizzard is overrated garbage.

    • HessianHunter

      Wait a sec, enough people gave a shit about 16 Horsepower to cover one of their songs? I love 16 Horsepower, I’m just shocked because as far as I can tell NO ONE else has heard of them.

      • Guppusmaximus

        Funny you say that because I heard the Manes version first and it’s much, much better than the original. Plus, i never heard of 16 Horsepower either until I Googled “Cinder Alley”.

        • HessianHunter

          I’m way into 16 Horsepower’s sound, so I like their version better. Fuck it, I’m writing about 16 Horsepower soon.

          • Christian Molenaar

            Not sure if he likes or is even aware of 16 Horsepower, but someone (Tyree?) was on a big Wovenhand kick recently.

          • HessianHunter

            ALL WOVEN HAND LIKERS, LISTEN TO 16 HORSEPOWER
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DMCzSmkeHE

          • crazytaco_12

            This is pretty sick shit right chur.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Wasn’t it Edward?

          • Christian Molenaar

            Possibly. The point is, listen to 16 Horsepower (if you like Wovenhand)!

          • W.

            I jammed Wovenhand at some point this year, so I should check out these dudes.

  • Virgil the Ghost Poet

    I think that A Storm of Light and Yakuza are underrated bands.

    • W.

      I like A Storm of Light

      • Virgil the Ghost Poet

        You’re the first person I have ever heard say that. That’s wrong because they’re great.

        • W.

          That song “You Are the Hunted” was on heavy rotation for me last year.

    • Scrimm

      The old bassist for Yakuza used to play in my band.

      • cool story bro
        (hey, we’re supposed to fight in here!)

        • Scrimm

          (Throws rocks at you from a distance)
          Not that cool, he joined and immediately tried to take over. that didn’t last long.

      • Virgil the Ghost Poet

        I really like Yakuza. The Bloodiest CD was great too. Sorry the bassist was a tool.

        • Scrimm

          He’s an alright guy when not in a band with him.

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            Have I heard of your band by chance?

          • Scrimm

            Doubt it. We decided not to put anything on the web until we had recorded material that we were happy with. That is finally coming soon.

    • old_man_doom

      A Storm of Light can be fucking great. That being said, some of their stuff is boring as hell. I don’t like their most recent record (Nations to Flames, or something like that) because so many of the songs just seemed to plod along with very uninspired mid-tempo grooves. They are one of those bands to which I have said, “Man, I want to see what they do on the NEXT record. The next one should be awesome. Hopefully…” Am I wrong here? (remember: W. says we have to fight.)

      • W.

        Too nice. Make him bleed!

  • Matt Pike’s Sweaty Left Nipple

    Popular now but shouldn’t be cuz people are stupid (no offense)–>
    -Deafheaven (right place/right time, hiptsers)
    -Periphery (djent sucks, Spencer’s voice is audible cancer)
    -Baby Metal (you’re all going to hell)

    Bands you SHOULD be listening to:
    -Arsafes. This one-man project’s latest release ‘Ratocracy’ features some seriously immense riffing not unlike a combination of Strapping Young Lad’s ‘City’ and Meshuggah. Also features clean vocals that don’t suck.
    http://arsafes.bandcamp.com/album/ratocracy
    -Epistasis. Progtastic black metal from New York. More people should be listening to them. http://crucialblast.bandcamp.com/album/light-through-dead-glass

    • W.

      I’m going to listen to these two recs. Also, Periphery are the most overrated piece of garbage in all of metal right now.

      • Beunhaas

        I actually like them quite a bit. Why does everyone dislike them so much?

        • The singer.

          GL

        • W.

          It’s the boring djent chords and absolutely atrocious vocals that kill it for me.

          • Beunhaas

            Ok. Can you explain what makes the vocals atrocious?

          • W.

            Sure! I really don’t mind clean vocals, but they have to serve the song. In my opinion, Periphery just sound like they’re trying to tack on clean choruses because that’s what sells and not because it actually fits the music. It just reminds me of autotuned whining rather than someone belting out notes with passion.

          • Beunhaas

            I have to disagree with that. Periphery to me have a fun Space Opera Science-fiction atmosphere to me, reminds me of Star Trek or Mass Effect in a strange way. The clean vocals help with that, along with the overproduction and the djenting riffs.

          • W.

            This is a wonderful place for a disagreement.

          • i grew to like them over time. i do enjoy Periphery II quite a bit.

        • Gurp

          His clean vox is an obnoxious nasal whine and his scream is pretty thin and weak. Basically everything I hate about post-hardcore.

    • Janitor Jim Dvggan

      I hate Periphery because I have a ton of friends who love them. They’re coming near me and I have no plans of seeing them.

    • Stockhausen

      I’ll check out anything on Crucial Blast. Can’t wait to get home.

      • Matt Pike’s Sweaty Left Nipple

        Enjoy my friend, and lemme know what ya think.

    • dude. bro. that Arsafes is good. your description is spot-on. this could fill the SYL-shaped hole in my heart.

      • Matt Pike’s Sweaty Left Nipple

        Totes. SYL was awesome during Devin’s skullet years.

    • Gorgasm

      I know this is going to make me sound super hipster, but I started listening to deafheaven right before they release Roads to Judah. Also own everything they’ve put out on vinyl as well. I remember really liking their sound but thinking they had a very underground sound. Then pitchfork picks them up for exposure and everything changed. But I can understand why the traditional metalhead rejects these guys.

      • Matt Pike’s Sweaty Left Nipple

        Everyone was creaming over Sunbather so I checked them out, didn’t hear what everyone else was hearing, but told myself to listen again later. Listened later, and quite a few times after that. Just kept finding myself switching to something else after a few tracks.

    • Gurp

      Deafheaven are playing a show in (my) town later this month. Amusingly it’s not at any of the metal venues in town, but the hipster/indie one down the street.

  • Tyree

    FUCK EVERYTHING! Everything you like sucks! We will all die alone!

  • Janitor Jim Dvggan

    I think Slipknot and Korn should have never gotten big. On the other hand I believe Mushroomhead, Dope and Powerman 5000 should have gotten huge as well as American Head Charge. In reality I don’t consider Mushroomhead nu metal. They’re closer to experimental and industrial than nu metal.

    • Virgil the Ghost Poet

      Monster Magnet should have been bigger here in the States than what they were.

      • Matt Pike’s Sweaty Left Nipple

        Truth

      • Janitor Jim Dvggan

        I remember them. They should have gotten big. Same thing with Nothingface and Mudvayne.

  • W.

    Also, I’m loving all the discussion in here. Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!

    • Dude, I cannot keep up with all the comments! And it is killing my productivity, which has been zero all afternoon. Gonna have to take a break for the rest of the day…

      GL

      • W.

        Likewise, haha

    • old_man_doom
      • W.

        Debauchery are super lulzy, but I can’t help but love them.

  • Virgil the Ghost Poet

    I do not like Pallbearer.

    • W.

      They aren’t offensive. They just don’t do anything for me.

      • Virgil the Ghost Poet

        Holy crap did we just become best friends.

        • W.

          You bet, pal!

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            ….

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan

            That depends on one question: Do you like Chevelle? If you do than the answer is yes. Even if you say no the answer is yes but with a recommendation to listen to them. They are probably one of the only bands I can think of not named Rush that are extremely consistent. They have not made a bad album even though they play the same style of alternative metal on each album. Their album from this year is on my Top 10 Non Metal albums along with Nazareth, Powerman 5000, Mushroomhead, In Flames and Hed PE. I’m not one to enjoy Hed PE but their album Evolution was very good compared to some of their albums.

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            I remember chevelle from years ago. My favorite non metal CDs are Pixies, Swans, A Silver Mt. Zion, and Cocksure. I will buy the new Primus and The New Pornographers.

          • W.

            Wait, there’s a new Primus album dropping? I love Primus!

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            It crimes out in Oct. I believe the 14th.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan

            I love this guy. He makes me respect the wrestler Virgil and makes me want to buy his wares if I ever see him selling his wares on the street.

          • KJM

            He still needs to stop checking out Daffney’s ass all the time.

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            I can’t that’s a nice pooper.

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            Thanks man. I will sign it for you too.

  • Phuo

    Meshuggah. I like them, and have most of their albums, but I just don’t understand the degree of praise and imitation they get. Like, they’re decent as background music, but overall I’ve always found them to be kinda boring and all-sound-same.

    • W.

      I love Meshuggah, but I see where you’re coming from.

    • Stockhausen

      It took me awhile to get past that, but I love them now. They’ll never branch way out from their thing, but I can find the variety within it much more than I used to be able to.

  • W.

    Dude, these guys kill.

  • Xan

    Megadeth has always been the band that I’ve always fucking hated. I hate, HATE the vocals. It completely ruins their music for me. I’ve always enjoyed Testament, Nuclear Assault, Kreator, Sodom, Exodus, Whiplash, Toxic, and Death Angel were far more deserving of the success.

    • megadave made like 4 good albums. out of 14. his batting average ain’t great.

    • Gurp

      Dude, they’re not even the worst. Ever listen to Vio-Lence?

      • Lord Ov Kapsko

        You know what makes Fabio angry? Posers. But not Axl gay level posers, but fucking dudes that listen to some terrible generic bands and they mumble all the time that for example: “Yeah, every metal head knows that Iron Maiden is the essence ov NWOBHM, but in my opinion (put here any fucking poor band’s name) should be on the same level, even bigger cause their 7th demo was soo groundbreaking but for some reason they haven’t made it.
        I can even bare a hatebreed fan, but those dudes, those fucking dudes.

        • Gurp

          Perdon me, senor?

      • Janitor Jim Dvggan

        Goddamnit they are terrible. Their music makes me come close to becoming Vio-Lent.

      • crazytaco_12

        Sorry, but bullshit homie. “Eternal Nightmare” is incredible. Even some redeemable tracks on “Oppressing the Masses”

        • Gurp

          No no, Eternal Nightmare is great, but the vocalist makes Dave Mustaine sound operatically trained.

    • Janitor Jim Dvggan

      Xentrix, Toxik, Testament, Exodus are my Big 4 B Team. Sodom, Nuclear Assault, Kreator and Accept are my Big 4 B-1 Team. I couldn’t separate them into two different teams so I made them both parts of the B Team of the Big 4.

      • Xan

        I’ve never heard of Xentrix before. I’ll have to check them out. I always need more bands with X’s in their names.

        • Janitor Jim Dvggan

          They did a thrash cover of the Ghostbusters theme song that was a hit. I don’t know much else of theirs.

        • crazytaco_12

          Good ol’ British thrash. Their scene was shit on, but they came out with some great bands: Onslaught, Ignorance, Slammer, Acid Reign

    • crazytaco_12

      Dude, fucking check out Ice Age. Old Swedish all girl thrash band who’s collected demos are some of my favorite thrash tracks of all time. Vox are a little hard to get used to for some people at first, but they fucking kill it http://ice-age.se/songs.html

      • Xan

        I shall do so.

  • CÖÄL RÖLL FRÖM THE TÖILET BÖWL

    I wish Demilich would reunite and release more material. But I also think that they’re actually entirely imaginary.

    • Gurp

      They DID remaster Nespithe pretty recently.

      • CÖÄL RÖLL FRÖM THE TÖILET BÖWL

        yeah, that 20th anny thingy is pretty nifty.

    • Metaphysical Anus

      Of course they’re imaginary.

    • Scrimm

      They were so good live. But I guess it was all a hallucination and I was watching an empty stage.

  • Gurp

    Dude. Someone else who digs Himsa. Where have you been?

    • Matt Pike’s Sweaty Left Nipple

      I dig Himsa.

      • Gurp

        Dude. People like you DO exist.

    • W.

      I’ve been here. All along.

  • Gurp

    Also, no one’s trashed Lamb of God yet. I think I’m in the clear.

    • W.

      I too like Lamb of God, though my affection for them has waned some.

    • Virgil the Ghost Poet

      Ugh, but another Ricmand band, Inter Arma is great. Looking forward to there new CD.

      • Howard Dean

        Horseback is some really zany stuff, but I like it. A lot of it reminds me of music from an Italian western mixed with doom and black metal.

      • Gurp

        I’ve heard OF Inter Arma before. Their genre label kinda stumps me.

        • Virgil the Ghost Poet

          That happened to me too. All that is just fancy talk meaning Sky Burial rules.

  • W.

    That’s a perfectly acceptable sentiment.

  • JWG

    As noted just this weekend, my favourite band is Blue Öyster Cult.

    They’re not exactly in any spotlight anymore, and to be brutally frank I’m not entirely sure their current iteration deserves any spotlight beyond that reserved for novelty reunion acts.

    That said, the re-release of their Columbia catalogue deserved far more fanfare than it got. I try to avoid “kids these days” moments – I don’t yet have my own lawn I can yell at them to get off – but the kids (these days) could at least have been exposed to it through multimedia samples in much more prevalent web-based marketing (ads on The Blog Which Shall Not Be Named, for instance).

    • Janitor Jim Dvggan

      Did you buy their box set with all their Columbia albums off Amazon? If so, here’s a link. I recommend it on the strength of the remastering, the bonus CDs and the four bootlegs you get digital copies of. I would buy it but it’s 108 dollars off Amazon.

      http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Columbia-Albums-Collection/dp/B008S80OU2/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1409693620&sr=8-10&keywords=blue+oyster+cult

    • Metaphysical Anus

      Do you know how they would get the spotlight? Let me give you a hint. MORE FUCKING COWBELL!

      • JWG

        One of my more amusing discoveries from the rereleases is that the ‘Don’t Fear The Reaper’ demo did not actually have cowbell…

    • Janitor Jim Dvggan

      Whenever this great band is brought up here I put their discography up to Imaginos on my phone and attempt to listen to everything in one day. I have yet to succeed but I will start on it right now.

    • KJM

      I saw them in 2013 the week Allan Lanier passed on, great outdoor show.

      • Janitor Jim Dvggan

        I’ve always wanted to see them but I haven’t yet. At the moment I’m listening to their discography up to Imaginos. I don’t really consider the albums they did after that any good and they’re certainly not up to the standard they set on their early albums.

  • Lord Ov Kapsko

    Opeth, I can’t stand this band but I can’t stand their fanbase even more. Nerdy ass zit faced weaklings. Every opeth fan looks alike. Weak, ugly and with a ponytail.

    • Dream Theater and Opeth may be different bands but I will never know for sure.

      • KJM

        I like Opeth just fine and Dream Theater bores me. Go figure.

    • Metaphysical Anus

      I thought we were friends.

      • Lord Ov Kapsko

        We are, and because we don’t always agree on certain matters but always respect each other opinions makes us friends. And we hat Axl.

        • Metaphysical Anus

          I presume that we both hate Putler as well?

    • Virgil the Ghost Poet

      I don’t like Katona either.

  • Metaphysical Anus

    This is not provocation, but my real opinion. I can’t stand most thrash metal at all. Slayer, Metallica etc. I don’t like a single thing they have done. I still hate Slayer the most.
    I’m ready for the hate. I have my little teddy bear next to me.

    • There are a few dudes here in the same boat with you. I don’t agree OBVIOUSLY.

      • Metaphysical Anus

        You don’t have to agree. And that’s why I love you.

    • Howard Dean

      HATE HATE HATE GET THE MOTHERFUCKING PITCHFORKS AND TAR AND FEATHERS

      • Metaphysical Anus

        Why would you want to get hose hipsters from pitchfork here?

        • Howard Dean

          Blurgh. The mention of “that” Pitchfork makes me convulse (and not a good, “Finnish death metal” Convulse).

          • Metaphysical Anus

            I didn’t mind them until I saw their review of Ulver’s Perdition City. After that I have hated them.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan

            I never liked them. They are hipsters who only like garbage and dislike anything that isn’t their hipster indie garbage.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Most hipster indie garbage sounds the same, like Neutral Milk Hotel.

          • Janitor Jim Dvggan

            I hate them almost as much as Arcade Fire. I wish Arcade Fire would be exiled from this universe for its crimes against music.

          • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

            TWO HEADED BOOO- oh.

        • Janitor Jim Dvggan

          No worries. Even though I love Slayer I am not mad. I do agree on hating some thrash like Megadeth and Anthrax but there is better thrash then them. I am a huge fan of Toxik as they’re from my area and I’m a fan of Xentrix because no one I know has ever heard of them.

    • crazytaco_12

      It took some restraint to not shit all over what you said, but I can respect it. I mainly take qualm with this because I think there is WAY too much attention spotlighted on black metal and death metal when both genres are oversaturated to all holy hell.

  • Virgil the Ghost Poet

    Am I the only person around here who likes A Forest of Stars?

    • Janitor Jim Dvggan

      I think you are. Don’t worry though, I am probably the only Chevelle fan here. They are probably the only radio rock band that I love and the only one that deserves their fame. I’m never lucky enough to hear them or any current rock on any radio station near me, but that is sometimes for the better. All the stations either play classic rock or pop.

      • crazytaco_12

        I’m not a huge Chevelle fan or anything, but I do think they deserve the spotlight; they’ve always sounded like a mini-Tool to me

    • Howard Dean

      Dude, not at all. I fucking love A Forest of Stars (I was actually thinking about writing a post about them, I shit you not). I have all three albums on CD. Their most recent, A Shadowplay for Yesterdays, is amazing, their best album by far, and one of my favorite albums of 2012. Incredible and inventive stuff. I also really like their “old Victorian gentleman recording music in the 19th century” shtick, even if it’s kind of cheesy.

      • Janitor Jim Dvggan

        I’m listening to one of their songs and my god this band is awesome. How have I never heard these guys before?

        • Howard Dean

          That’s the nature of this beast called metal. There are so many great bands making incredible music in the underground. You can be a fan for years and still discover amazing new bands. Enjoy!

          • W.

            It can be an incredibly daunting task to even keep up with new releases, let alone underground stuff you missed.

      • Virgil the Ghost Poet

        I have all of theirs too. I even bought the art book version of Shadowplay. Their new album is done and should come out this winter or spring. I would read that article if you write it.

        • Howard Dean

          Well, then that article may become a future edition of None More Black!

  • KJM

    Manowar: silly, immature, boring junk. I watch Pro Wrestling & Sci-Fi/Horror movies and Manowar are just too Velveeta for me.

    • Janitor Jim Dvggan

      I enjoy Manowar but not as much as most Manowar fans. I don’t know why but the cheesiness makes me like it. I also watch pro wrestling yet when it comes to the cheesy pro wrestling I don’t enjoy it. I do enjoy WCW though especially the bad stuff they made. When they got bad they became really hilarious.

  • Sponge Of Mystery

    Fuck Pearl Jam. THERE I SAID IT

    • W.

      JEREMEEEESPOKKKEEEEEYEYEYEYEYEEE

  • Janitor Jim Dvggan

    I like Trapt even though they had one hit in Headstrong and nothing of that caliber since. I’m going to their show on Thursday that is in my area even though Saving Abel are opening for them. If you didn’t know I consider Saving Abel and their brand of Nickelback lite rock to be even worse than Nickelback and Hinder. I’m sure that Trapt will be better than Saving Abel by a longshot.

  • Lacertilian

    I enjoyed my days listening to Himsa & A Life Once Lost.

    • W.

      ALOL… That’s a name I haven’t heard in some time.

  • Further Down the Metal Hole

    Well, this thread is quite a polite war zone.

    Sylosis could be huge, as I think they have many elements that could make and keep many people happy.

    • W.

      @webb71:disqus is a massive Sylosis fanboy.

  • George Clarke

    we are p famous already tho

  • crazytaco_12

    I know I talk about them all the time and am guilty of being an extremely hardcore fanboy, but fucking VOIVOD man! Before they started, no other band even sounded remotely like them. For such an insanely unique, creative band, I feel like they really aren’t given their due. It seems they are band some people will reference another band sounds like or someone’s “checked out some of their stuff” yet never really gone that far into their discography. Each musician in the band has their own signature, hell, the artwork is signature to that band alone! DIY as fuck and just quality material. “Killing Technology” through “Nothingface” are seriously some of the best albums this planet will ever be privileged enough to listen to. Not to mention, one hell of a video that would make Rho Stone proud (maybe…) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCAMqXJlWeQ