TovH Radio Ep. 33: Featuring BRENOCIDE of THAT’S NOT METAL


On this episode of the Toilet ov Hell Radio Show, Joe and 365 sit down to chop it up with the legendary Brenocide of That’s Not Metal! We talk Bill & Ted’s Bogus Journey, Deafheaven, killer old school metal, and posers. Holy shit you guys, we called out so many posers. Jose Mangin, you are on notice. Music this week comes from Barrow WightAngel Witch, and Devast.

Music featured in this program:

Barrow Wight – “No Sleep Til Gondor” from Knights in Sauron’s Service (Facebook)(Bandcamp)
Angel Witch – “Angel Witch” from Angel Witch (Facebook)
Devast – “Chaotic Proliferation” from Apocalyptic Human Extinction (Facebook)(Bandcamp)

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  • Eliza

    Yay, Angel Witch!

  • Señor Jefe El Rosa

    This ought to be good!

  • Barrow Wight is super duper fun!

    • Señor Jefe El Rosa

      Very cool to see them on the show!

    • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

      I love that song title.

      • Señor Jefe El Rosa

        You need to check out the rest of the album’s song titles then!

        • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

          I have the Bandcamp pulled up for as soon as the podcast is over 🙂

        • OHHH, YAH! Mellon’s right! Go check it out!

  • oh hey, disqus comments, whats good

  • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

    Sorry Brenocide. I assumed that picture was you (having no idea who the hell Jose Mangin was until this podcast, fortunately). Again, I’m really sorry about that lol.

    • I thought the same, jajajaja!

    • Brenocide just wants you to think he’s a big bearded metal dude. In reality, he waxes his eyebrows at the same place Jose Mangin does.

    • It’s okay, but I can’t forgive you literally ever.

      • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

        Understandably hahahaha

  • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

    Haha, Jager. About one shot/drink and I’m good for the year.

  • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

    Oh man, great analogy with the Veil of Maya thing. It is real unfortunate how Cynic broke up. Couple of goddamn legends went out like some high school twats arguing on social media.

    • Since the breakout, I haven’t enjoyed Cynic like I used to 🙁

      • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

        I still really like Cynic, but I don’t listen to them all that often. I usually go for Focus, but I really enjoy Traced in Air a lot, too. The other stuff since that one (just one full length and an EP or 2, right?) I never got attached to.

        • xengineofdeathx

          Evolutionary sleeper is a motherfucker man.

          • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

            They really all are.

  • Ugh, still fucking talking about Deafheaven I see

    • How do you feel about this comment after listening to the show?

  • Randall’s Sweaty Space Pants

    Jose Mangin is one of the biggest posers around. Has an amazing platform to play all kinds of wonderful metal. Instead, uses it to push the shittiest of American metal/metalcore has to offer.

    • FACTS!!!!!!!!

      • Randall’s Sweaty Space Pants

        They have dedicated multiple hour long show each week that is only shitty bands covering other songs.

        • That shitty show was how I learned about the glory of Graveyard Classics.

    • Elegant Gazing Globe

      according to Arbitron, an amazing platform does not equate to amazing listenership

    • RepostedAvengedSevenfoldFan2

      Posers vs posers vs posers vs posers vs posers vs posers….
      It’s a battle that no one can win.

      -EverxOpeningxFlower, 8 months ago

      • Every time you make a comment, it’s like witnessing a flower bloom <3

      • Akerskronks ov Steele


    • Óðinn
    • xengineofdeathx

      I mean is it too much to ask for some fuckin Coalesce every once in a while? Damn!

  • listen “Brenocide” AKA “I suck” HARSH NOISE is GOOD

  • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

    Gotta agree to an extent with 365 on the new album. They really did pull a bit of a bait-and-switch with the singles being so reminiscent of the 80s, but then every other song (save “Spit Out the Bone”) sounds like it could’ve come from the black album or Load.

    But!. . . . .some of those were actually really good. Halo on Fire kicks all kinds of ass, and none of them are downright awful, but I could easily just toss about 4 of ’em. No idea why this was a double album. Would’ve been 10x stronger as a single album of around 8 songs, even with the focus on mid-tempo rocking for the most part (although it would’ve felt way thrashier if 4 of 8 songs had that feel, vs 4 of 12).

    • Eliza

      I kind of like Hardwired too, that main riff is just so good.

    • Abradolf Lincler

      i dont understand why anyone thot they were gonna thrash. they havent been thrash for 20+ years.i dont think they even CAN thrash like dat. metallica is dad/butt/USO rock, has been for decades

      • Eliza

        I expected it to be Death Magnetic part 2, which is not a bad thing, but not a good thing either, and, as far as I can tell, that is exactly the case.

      • Just leave black metal out of it.

        • Abradolf Lincler

          oh youre talking about those other videos? i havent watched em. wasnt gonna

      • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

        The singles, man! Hardwired may have been kinda generic, but it was pure thrash. Not a Load riff in sight. Then Moth into Flame and Atlas Rise had some real fast riffing going on too. You’d think if they wanted to really give an impression of the album as a whole, they might throw one thrashier song out there, but grab a couple of the mid-tempo numbers, since that’s the majority. Instead, they went with the minority in terms of the album overall.

        I still like it well enough. Even if you threw away half of the songs you’d still be left with plenty of great ones. I probably won’t buy it on anything physical, but in this age of streaming and skipping tracks so easily (or making a playlist without them altogether), I’ll enjoy myself for sure.

    • xengineofdeathx

      I totally agree with Halo on fire. Just some solid ass riffs and Hetfield sounding all good and shit all over that song… even though the end isn’t as cool. I find myself liking the slower songs quite a bit as well; Dream No More’s chorus is like some Thing That Should Not Be shit. Disc two should have only been Confusion and Spit out the Bone. As much as I could pick this album apart I just keep listening to it, man. Although it is not without some stupid moments.

      • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

        Yes *1000 on the disc 2 comment. The rest aren’t completely bereft of riffs, but none of those riffs are strong enough to make me want to actually sit through ManUNkind or Am I Savage. Here Comes Revenge and Murder One are alright, but I don’t feel that I’d really miss them.

        The only part of Dream No More I really like is the riff/vocals during the line “You turn. . .to stone!” but after that the chorus “Ktulu awakens” part just loses me. It’s like trying to combine The Thing That Should Not Be with something from Load.

        But yeah, despite feeling so frustrated by a huge chunk of the album, there’s still enough good left over to make a solid Hardwired playlist that I will be jamming for quite a while.

  • Óðinn

    I guess it’s that time of year again:

    Decibel’s Top 40 Albums of 2016
    40. The Dillinger Escape Plan – Dissociation
    39. Eternal Champion – The Armor of Ire
    38. Venomous Concept – Kick Me Silly VC III
    37. Aluk Todolo – Voix
    36. Inverloch – Distance | Collapsed
    35. Eerie – Eerie
    34. Sumac – What One Becomes
    33. Child Bite – Negative Noise
    32. Inquisition – Bloodshed Across the Empyrean Altar Beyond the Celestial Zenith
    31. Cult of Luna & Julie Christmas – Mariner
    30. Graves at Sea – The Curse that Is
    29. Chthe’ilist – Le Dernier Crépuscule
    28. Phobocosm – Bringer of Drought
    27. Testament – Brotherhood of the Snake
    26. SubRosa – For this We Fought the Battle of Ages
    25. Bölzer – Hero
    24. Neurosis – Fires Within Fires
    23. Mizmor – Yodh
    22. Wretch – Wretch
    21. Virus – Memento Collider
    20. Oathbreaker – Rheia
    19. Ghoul – Dungeon Bastards
    18. Diamond Head – Diamond Head
    17. Meshuggah – The Violent Sleep of Reason
    16. Destroyer 666 – Wildfire
    15. Crowbar – The Serpent Only Lies
    14. Funeral Moth – Transience
    13. Blood Ceremony – Lord of Misrule
    12. Asphyx – Incoming Death
    11. Trap Them – Crown Feral
    10. Cobalt – Slow Forever
    9. Gorguts – Pleiades Dust
    8. Hammers of Misfortune – Dead Revolution
    7. Inter Arma – Paradise Gallows
    6. Gehennah – Too Loud to Live, Too Drunk to Die
    5. Abbath – Abbath
    4. Oranssi Pazuzu – Värähtelijä
    3. Blood Incantation – Starspawn
    2. Nails – You Will Never Be One of Us
    1. Khemmis – Hunted

    • RepostedAvengedSevenfoldFan2

      This list is all a lie its a spam the real one is
      1. Avenged Sevenfold
      2. Three Days Grace
      3. Breaking Benjerman
      4. Guns and Roses
      5. Helmet
      6. KoRn
      7. Slipknot
      8. AC/DC
      9. Green Day
      10. Linkin Park

      -synystergatesliker, Aug 9 2011

      • Your “R” is backwards.

        • Joaquin Stick

          Guns and яoses

        • RepostedAvengedSevenfoldFan2

          did you know that Nirvana spelled backward is? Vagina? Seriously…google it!

          – atomicfriendo, 4 months ago

      • Señor Jefe El Rosa

        I don’t like seeing Helmet on this list.

    • I like 3 of those albums. Inverloch, Destroyer 666, and Asphyx. I’d claim one of them to be top 10 material though.

      • RJA

        Inverloch album is way underrated – cool to see that on there. You didn’t care for the Blood Incantation record? I thought that was pretty nice.

        • Aren’t they a tech death band?

          • Elegant Gazing Globe

            seriously you didn’t listen to blood incantation record?

          • No.

          • Elegant Gazing Globe

            it’s quality cave-verb, get on that broski

          • Strange, I always thought they were a tech death band. I mean they had a spacey album cover on their last release. It also seemed like everyone was hyping this new album up. I think that led me to stay away from it as fucked up as that sounds.

          • Elegant Gazing Globe

            lyrical themes are on the cosmic end, but it’s dripping with the reverb you like. It’s not as suffocating as Temple Nightside though.
            You’ll love how the drums sound

          • RJA

            Just death metal I would say – a record where the hype/popularity is for good reason. Probably not something you’d be really into but pretty solid – worth a listen fo sho.

    • Elegant Gazing Globe

      That Eternal Champion album is amazing. I’m holding out for the wax that’s slated to be released in December

      • Señor Jefe El Rosa

        That is wax that I want!

    • GoatForest

      No Anaal Nathrakh. That list is false.

  • Speaking of Derpheaven. A coworker of mine went to that Carcass/Deafheaven show last Friday. He said Deafheaven sucked but Carcass ripped. I guess Carcass played for like 2 hours.

    • Abradolf Lincler

      derpheaven hasnt been bad live any time ive seent them.carcass did play for like 2 hrs tho, and ruled

  • Jajajajajaja! This José Mangi is hilarious!

  • Óðinn
  • Óðinn
  • Óðinn

    That Angel Witch song is objectively terrible.

  • Óðinn
  • Óðinn

    I’ve made this for shits and giggles. Don’t anybody get their panties in a bunch. I know Deafheaven is a divisive issue, like abortion or religion. 😉

  • Óðinn
  • Waynecro

    You know what is pretty metal? Hacking up fallen tree branches with a machete during a rainstorm. I did that yesterday. If someone had been around to photograph it, I would have had the cover for my autobiography. Awesome show as always, dudes!

    • Señor Jefe El Rosa


    • NDG

      Yeah, but did you take your shirt off?

      • Waynecro

        You don’t have to go shirtless when you’re rocking a TovH tank top.

        • CyberneticOrganism

          Go bottomless then

          • Waynecro

            Not while I’m swinging a machete around.

        • Fun fact: Waynecro purchased a regular TovH shirt; but his giant, Zune-assisted biceps tore the fabric right off the sleeves

          • Waynecro

            I do owe the bulk of my gainz to my Zunes.

  • thoroughly entertaining show, lads!
    is Devast the new Brain Drill? (i am inferring that old Brain Drill is way better than new Brain Drill here)

  • Dental_Damnation

    I literally spit out my drink when he said “Drink some ice cold Jäger and listen to the legendary Machine Head” hahahaha

    • “Legendary Machine Head” is an actual Mangin quote I endured while listening one day. You can’t make this guy up.

  • Óðinn
  • EsusMoose

    Angel Witch- Angel Witch – Angel Witch, they got it right