TMP: Witchery, Shining, Pain of Salvation, and More!


There’s kind of a lot of news about older bands this week, and I am not even going to mention Metallica. Shit. I just mentioned them, didn’t I? No one say it two more times.

Punky hardcore band Code Orange are going on a tour with a rotating group of supporters.

Kreator released the title track of their new album, which will be out January 27. There’s some weird blurred nudity, fyi.

Here is a new Black Anvil song. The album will be out January 14.

Witchery released a new song last Friday with their new album set to be released this Friday.

Chicago black metal band FIN announced a new album for 2017. This artwork is sweet.


  • Mike IX Williams from Eyehategod needs a liver transplant, so a crowdfunding site has been created to accept donations to help pay for all them medical bills. Here’s to hoping for a speedy recovery.
  • Pain of Salvation released a new single. I would just post the video, but it’s both only on Vevo (in my country) and slightly NSFW, so click at your own peril. I was assuming this band was just going to be an old dead favorite for me, but this album might change that.
  • Shining started a Patreon page. With more and more of these popping up, how likely are you to support one? I guess if the right band did it I would consider it, but that’s a very small group for me.
  • Psycho Las Vegas, which pretty much just ended, already announced a few bands for next year. Start planning that trip now, fans of Neurosis, Swans, Magma, Abbath, and a few more.
  • Overkill announced their 18th studio album, The Grinding Wheel, will be out February 10.
  • Brujeria are playing a bunch of shows across the southern part of the country early next year.
  • Hooded Menace announced a split with Algoma, and you can check out a little sample here.
  • Russian Circles have a whole bunch of European dates coming up.
  • Decibel is hosting a new song/video from sax black metal weirdos Aenaon.
  • Red Fang are hosting a coloring book contest? Now I’ve seen everything.
  • Experimental rock band Tub Ring exceeded their Kickstarter goal, and will now put some tracks on vinyl and a release new EP.

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  • Howard Dean

    They’ve almost raised the $50,000 for Mike Williams in roughly one day. Crazy shit!

    • Elegant Gazing Globe

      that’s an awful lot of pulls gotten

    • No more Dixie Whisky for Mr. Williams.

      • Howard Dean

        Yeah, if he succeeds in getting a new liver, I think he probably needs to hold off on destroying it with intoxicants. Killing one liver with drugs and alcohol is one thing. Wrecking a donated one would be a real shitty thing to do.

        • Joaquin Stick

          Especially a donated one that he had a lot of help paying for.

        • Yeah, I mean I’d hope that he has quit drinking at this point. I think doctors are pretty strict about who they give a liver too.

          • Howard Dean

            Yeah, totally. I actually thought the medical community frowned upon giving people who were heavy drug and alcohol users donated livers and kidneys (I think that may be the case in countries with more socialized or universal health care systems, but I’m not certain). It must be kind of difficult to give a liver to a person who has spent their entire life actively and volitionally destroying it over someone else who just has bad luck and acquired a liver disease. Bit of a moral dilemma there.

          • Depechemodeisgangsta

            My aunt had a very bad liver and needed it a transplant, and luckily his husband was a match, and he decided to go ahead and do it, my uncle likes to drink his couple of beers for the weekend, nothing overboard.
            The transplant worked my aunt has to take about 20 pills a day, just to make sure everything works, my uncle also has to take a couple of pills, but now he might only drink 3 beers at most, since he knows that he can’t be fucking around with it.

          • more beer

            They are very serious about the person not drinking. They will knock you right off the list for that. Then give your spot to someone more deserving. Who followed all of the rules.

          • That’s what I thought. They don’t take that shit lightly.

          • more beer

            Not at all. My buddy who had one. Drank a couple of beers. He ended up having to go through the whole process again. Which took another 2 years for him to get the transplant.

          • Wow. That must have been a miserable two years. Dude is super lucky to say the least though.

          • more beer

            Yes he really is. But two years later he is doing great. He is a singer in a rather well known band. His condition was never made public. So I won’t say who it is. But I will say it was awesome seeing him perform at CDF.

          • Fuck, that’s some story. Glad to hear!

          • more beer

            Yes it really is. The guy was so close to death it isn’t even funny. I spent close to a week at the hospital with his lady. When he had the surgery. I don’t even think the guys in his band realized what bad shape he was in. I told them 2 years ago I would have never thought we would be standing talking after they performed. Medical science is amazing.

        • more beer

          Succeeds is the key word there. Just being on the transplant list. Does not ensure you will be getting one. Having seen the process first hand. With a friend needing a liver transplant. He is in for a long hard road.

        • Edward/Breegrodamus™

          Wanna take a wager on that, Mr. Dean?

          • Howard Dean

            Haha, no wagers. I honestly wouldn’t want to be on either side of the wager, for many reasons. I’m just rooting for him to recover and be healthy.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            On if homeboy burns out liver #2, in case that wasn’t clear…

        • more beer

          Hey Mickey Mantel destroyed 2 livers. Some people are real assholes like that.

          • Howard Dean

            Honestly has got to be one of the most asshole-ish things to do. I understand that addiction ain’t easy, but when you’ve come so close to death and you’re given a second chance like that by receiving a replacement organ (potentially in front of others who didn’t destroy their organs through their actions), you’ve got to be a little self-aware and try just a bit harder.

          • more beer

            I agree 100%. Talk about throwing away a second chance at life.

          • As moor beer stated. I agree 100% I’ve never come to that with my drinking. But having dealt with 2 wrecked cars from drinking, a DUI, and some serious stomach issues over the past 5 years. It really made an impact on my quality of life. This is why I don’t drink anymore in all honesty. Fuck! If I had to get a new liver I’d be beating my self over the head with a meat cleaver.

          • KyleJMcBride

            I’m Mr Crazy Party Guy, but I haven’t come even remotely close to doing that kind of serious damage to myself.

          • GoatForest

            Yep. I dig my whiskey and rum, but I do so in moderation. It’s the only way to enjoy them longterm.

    • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

      Good. They’re kick ass.

  • I would like to see Code Orange again, but not nearly enough to sit through Youth Code. We’ve come too far as a society to fall back into 90s industrial cheese.

    • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

      Lol. I actually really ended up liking Youth Code, but when I saw them, they opened for Baroness, and that was really weird. Didn’t think that was a great fit, but I do enjoy their music now.

      Then again, I hardly ever listened to much industrial at any point in time, so I never really got tired of it either. They seem less cheesy in appearance at least than what my mental stereotype of industrial is (living, breathing ads for Hot Topic, essentially)

      • Ha, I’m glad it’s better in person. Every time I hear their music I just imagine this

          • Depechemodeisgangsta

            El tiburon, they didn’t stop, just like the song.

          • HUH! AHÍ ESTÁ.

            HUH! AHÍ ESTÁ!


            8 Years old me made a lot of elfic dance to those righteous tunes. Yes, sir.

          • Depechemodeisgangsta

            That song was a must in all the new years party on the mid’s 90’s at least in our family party, that is what you will consider a “Banger” lol.

          • You def got this, man.

        • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

          If there really is intelligent life out there beyond our planet, and they are an incredibly advanced civilization, the capabilities of which we can only dream, I wouldn’t blame them one bit for wiping our entire species out after seeing this video.

          Also, Dark Quiltility hoodie in this video! Noooooooooooooo!

          (another also–why did I keep retyping “Quiltility” when Chrome gave me a spelling error, as if typing it over and over would somehow change that?)

          • Bless you for listening to the show and keeping the Quiltility alive

          • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

            Hahaha I love that. I hope it manages to continue being a thing.

            But yeah, I mean it was kinda odd just having 2 people on stage, one being the dude fiddling with knobs and stuff, and the other being the chick jumping around doing vocals, but I think really it just felt weird that we were all in Baroness-mode. Either way, no gas masks, glowsticks, or random bondage/furry/edgy-weeb bullshit, so that was a relief haha.

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    • Edward/Breegrodamus™

      I haven’t seen them live Joe, but their records are awesome.

    • Kevin Nash’s Jackknife

      Youth Code is so much better than most current industrial acts. Most current ones are so shitty.

      • GoatForest

        Eh, I’ve always been more of a trip hop man, anyway.

    • You get Gatecreeper too, though!

  • Jack Rabbit

    Psycho Las Vegas is looking to be dope again.

  • Fuck yea FIN rules

    • Joaquin Stick

      Actually never listened to them before, so I just threw on Furrows of Tradition. This some good black metal.

      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        They’re good shit.

      • Absolutely ripping black metal. Everything rules about it. The riffs, the vocals, and the drumming. Highly recommended.

  • Ayyy, this Witchery is bangin’ <3

  • AeonsOvChaos

    Fall and Winter, the two seasons in which darkness rise up and while I wait for the upcoming split between Sinmara and Misþyrming I will give you something incendiary and cold at the same time, seems killer Black Metal from Sweden, check this out:

  • Kevin Nash’s Jackknife

    Magma is on Psycho Las Vegas? Yay!

  • KyleJMcBride

    Psycho Las Vegas >>>>>
    Especially now that Nevada legalized.

  • Pentagram Sam

    Random thoughts before comment diving:

    Crowdfunding vs patreon. Crowdfunding for an end goal (album, liver) is a take it for what you want thing if you want to help someone reach a tangible goal.

    Doing patreon just to live, well, that kinda feels weird. I do think that PATRONS (aka private backers) are a def valid route for bands to take. But keep the patron limited to a one person thing or single entity. Literally holding out a digital cup for a monthly stipend from the whole world is a little embarrassing to me. Is everyone in the band working? If not, then why not? The people that are working, is it at least 40 hours a week? Why not? If a group of 4-6 grown ass men can’t support their band hobby with combined income (it is a hobby unless you are making a real living off it and if you’re begging than it is not a living), I’m not too sure giving free money will make life better.

    Plus just heard Rhapsody is doing some kind of farewell tour and it made me think of when Best Buy sued them and they changed their name.

    • Joaquin Stick

      For the Patreon thing, I think the idea is that while working a 40 hour workweek, and possibly with conflicting schedules with your bandmates, it makes it difficult to turn a hobby into a self sustaining thing. So with the extra money, they can put out more music / go on more tours, which will indirectly make Patrons happy. I’m not all 100% on board with it, but it’s also not so crazy.

      • The Tetrachord of Archytas

        I think it also includes the possibility that one could work less at their day job and more at their m/ job if they had consistent income from patreon.

        • Pentagram Sam

          That’s why it should be a bit more private in my opinion. Like, I get it if someone has to get help but to go public like that seems like it’s a last ditch, “we’re two checks away from the street” type thing.

          Mentioned it before in another post but if a band of 5 is really serious and needs money, if everyone goes to a plasma donation center and uses each other as referrals, in two weeks after everyone donates twice a week, there’s a thousand bucks in the band fund, and yes, this is way too many commas that try to imitate the flow of my voice

          • Joaquin Stick

            I think you used just the right amount of commas. It’s a bit runny, but we’re not exactly writing a doctoral thesis up in here. A-

          • The Tetrachord of Archytas

            Yeah I think that two checks away from the street thing is probably a cop out, especially when it comes from bands that aren’t that great

    • KyleJMcBride

      1-2 years. If you can’t turn a band into a self sustaining project after 1-2 years of out side investment, then it’s time to forget about it.

      • Pentagram Sam

        Right on man, like everyone move in together to save on bills, go generic brand food and put everything into it.

        The other way is to do the dreaded weekend warrior approach and self releasing stuff while doing regional shows. It might not be pretty, but it is a lot more sustainable and you can do it a loooooong time. You don’t HAVE to do dad rock covers once you hit thirty +

    • The Tetrachord of Archytas

      I think you have to take into consideration that music/art is in just as much of a weird transition as the rest of the economic world. I think this type of system could potentially make sense once the stigma around it goes away. Mozart worked himself to death trying to get away from the church/state patronage system whereas beethoven was basically one of the first successful indie musicians. But all that really changed is that he had his rich friends sponsor him instead. Kinda similar to patreon now. I think the point has to do with a general abuse or misunderstanding of how much time/work actually goes into well made art and the that nowadays the means of production (aka not free streaming) is largely unsupported.

    • The Tetrachord of Archytas

      I think the point though is that there hasn’t been an arrival for the next musical system that actually works. The record industry/label system dominated for decades, but this digital transition that’s been going on since the post pirating age has been significant for maybe 15? Until an actual sustainable model gets its kinks worked out I think we’re just going to see a ton of casualties for better or worse. I saw a guy once live who basically said, and I agree, that if you don’t want to pay for music and support artists you love then you’re an idiot, unless you understand and except that music will continue to get worse. I don’t think he means quality but more quantity. Charles Ives sold insurance for a living and is pretty legendary for his accomplishments.

      • Pentagram Sam

        Right on man. What do you think of the notion that the last 65 years of music history was a fluke? I can’t fathom how big and how much fuckin money went thu the music industry in the peak times.

        Even in like 50’s bucks, I wonder how much Elvis and the Beatles made for others. Like, the music industry was responsible for the creation of groups, the marketing of songs, radio air play, studio time, producing the 45’s and LPs and art.

        And all along the way people got paid. How many millions were made and shot thru in the eighties when albums sold platinum and multi platinum?

        Does the fact that people don’t need 50 grand of studio time or even need a physical product as a means to listen to the music mean that there is nothing left to sell except for a show and a shirt?

        Is the fact that there is still left a sizeable and influential group of bands who had made it before the mp3 era and they still live off music the only thing that keeps the dream of “making it” alive? When those bands stop will that “make it” mentality go away?

        btw I dig these convos man, I’d kill for this stuff irl

        • The Tetrachord of Archytas

          I love these types of conversations too!

          First off, the flukelear bomb theory (as I just named it) is really interesting. I think it depends on what we really consider an era to be. Because in a lot of ways, you could maybe consider every era a fluke in that sense, because the art world has always been in flux especially since the 1800s where things become way more capital based AND artists tried to become more independent. Not to sound like a communist but it’s pretty easy to point to capitalism as the final boss loomin over the quest for artistic freedom. I think ultimately it can’t really be a fluke because the reason so much money went through that time is probably cause the real development there was the idea that music could be a product and that money could be made on it as such. I think that’s the thread that can be traced as to why so much of the mainstream is now so shallow, because simply put it’s a product first and that’s pretty much what capitalism does to everything, whether it’s art, food, or people…it slaps a dollar value on it. Not only that but it brainwashes the public into treating everything that way, which I think is probably unsustainable for earth in general. “Everyone’s gotta get their money’s worth.”

          So I think there’s two sides to this, the idea of music as a product, and also the flip side is the idea of artistic purpose or success.

          For artists, I think making it mentality as the guideline for success will go away eventually.

  • KyleJMcBride
    • Oooooooooooooooh.

      • KyleJMcBride


        • I just watched Frightmare last night. Thinking about getting the Bluray copy of that.

  • Abradolf Lincler

    man.i cant believe mike williams needs a liver

  • Señor Jefe El Rosa

    New Overkill cover is kinda lame.

    • I kinda like it. Super cheeseball 80’s thrash.

      • Señor Jefe El Rosa

        I’d like it better for an EP or a 7inch

  • Dave Vincent’s Perm

    Prosanctus Inferi’s 2013 album is still in stock as a diehard edition fuck yeah

    • Good band. Saw them at MDF.

      • Dave Vincent’s Perm

        Jealous af, the vocals sound a lot better on the live videos I’ve seen

  • Ooh, Code Orange is coming to my area! Can’t wait to get kicked in the nuts and punched in the back of the head!

  • Waynecro


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