Shots Fired: Vulvatron (Kim Dylla) vs GWAR

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Late afternoon yesterday, I got word of an explosive argument on Facebook. Kim Dylla (AKA Vulvatron, AKA lead seamstress at Kylla Custom Rock Wear) was apparently let go from GWAR. The problem, however, rose in the fact that she was allegedly not told she was being fired, and discovered this turn of events through a press release on Blabbermouth.

Kim lashed out on Facebook, saying:

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Her supporters came to her defense. That’s when things got heated and Pustulus Maximus (AKA Brent Purgason) came to GWAR’s defense, and a Facebook-brawl ensued.

(Via Ultimate Guitar)
Brent Purgason: If you really want to keep dragging this out then I can tell them the truth. I wanted to keep the crew in Richmond so of course my first choice was to pick someone local and I figured it would be great to grab somebody that I had come up with. So I picked you above all others and it seemed like it was going to work out great so we hired you. Then you toured and you were drinking too much before you performed and we told you to stop.

Then it happened again, then again and the final straw was when you were so inebriated you broke a bone on stage during the show. Not cool. It wasn’t like we never said anything to you. We told you again and again from individual band members and tour manager and you didn’t listen. Did we say that to the world? No, but you want to paint this picture like you got sidelined out of no where. Dude, we told you JANUARY 5th 2015 and we told you WHY. You insulted fan art right from the get go in public for the world to see. I don’t like it when someone that is supposed to be working with me is disrespecting the people that make this possible.

Say whatever you want, your friends are going to have your back no matter what but don’t call me a f-cking a-shole for protecting my livelihood. You showed up drunk for work after given multiple chances to correct the mistake and you were the NEWEST person on the crew. If anyone here got a new job and showed up hammered they would get fired too. We gave you more than a few times to fix the problem and you would just deny you had one. I tried to help you out and you want to make us look like a-sholes? Tell the truth for once and accept responsibility for what happened. I didn’t want it to come to this but I’m not going to shy away while you try and turn our mutual friends against me. I even reached out to you today because I didn’t want it to go this far but this thread is still up and this is what you want. Not cool.

Kim Dylla: I broke my rib because i made a stupid f-cking mistake trying to put on a good show for the last date not because I was drunk. If others can drink i can,.there aren’t different rules for ppl based on how long they are in the band.. hazing is for frats not music. I asked ppl how they thought about how I was doing my job and every time they said I was doing a great job. Until someone told me I wasn’t doing a good job or did something wrong no one had a right to say shit about my lifestyle unless they said something about everyone’s lifestyle.

Brent Purgason: We lost two members to abuse problems and you don’t think we have a right to tell our employees to not put us at risk by performing under the influence?

Kim Dylla: If there is no drinking then no one can drink, not just different. Arbitrary rules for everyone… drugs are different and you drink more beer than anyone. We agreed not to say anything publicly and you did without talking to me about something you never talked to me about so I will not let you bully me out of saying something because it is wrong what you did.

Brent Purgason: Asking you not to perform drunk is not hazing. I am baffled by your logic… We are asking you not to drink because you are BRAND NEW to have on a tour around guys that know their jobs inside and out. Nobody has come tome and asked me to stop and if they did, what do you think would happen to me if I just disregarded that and showed up wasted every night? I would get fired too. That’s obvious.

Kim Dylla: Sorry but having 2 or 3 lite beers in the course of 4 or 5 hours is not showing up wasted, if you got accused of being drunk after 2 bud lights I’m pretty sure you’d ignore what people say too because that’s just ridiculous and a physical impossibility.

Brent Purgason: We asked you not to drink before you went on because we saw it as a problem and it affected how the show went. You ignored that request and now we are here. There you go. That’s the whole story in a nutshell.

Kim Dylla: You didn’t have the right to treat me differently than the other band members. Sorry that is a rule of any employment, any band. Equal treatment.

Brent Purgason: Asking you to do the job we hired you to do is not unequal treatment. I still wish you the best of luck. It just didn’t work out between the band. It didn’t have to go this far.

Man, you could have just told everyone 5 months ago that we just went in separate directions. We didn’t fire you to be mean.

Kim Dylla: You never told me you were getting a new Vulvatron. Would you get a new Slymenstra and expect her not to be upset if you didn’t tell her even if you don’t ‘owe’ that to her it’s called respect.

I was absolutely not told you were getting someone else to play my character. Otherwise I wouldn’t be upset about this.

I am just upset I had to find out you were getting a new Vulvatron via a public post we agreed not to make rather than a private conversation which it should have been.

Holy crap.

Without giving away too much about my ethereal identity, I am in fact a friend of Vulvatron’s. Prior to this entire blow-up, Kim was forthright in letting people know that she wouldn’t be touring with GWAR in the near future. As far as she knew, GWAR was “moving in another direction” and she would return to the stage with them in a year or so, reprising her role as Vulvatron. According to Kim, what happened here was that GWAR decided not to tell her personally that she’d never be coming back. Instead they resorted to putting out a press release, which is where she discovered that Vulvatron would be played by someone else.

Then there’s the whole alcohol debate. Was Kim too drunk to perform? Fans at her shows say no, but GWAR is using this as their reason for letting her go. Despite the fact that the rest of GWAR drinks, they expected their new member not to, due to what they considered multiple performances where she was heavily intoxicated. To that, Kim replied:

Kim Dylla: If people would like to falsely accuse me of being drunk and drag my name through the mud, I would have been happy to take a breathalyzer test any night before we played, because the amount I drank would have put me far under the legal limit. I even explained that. You can’t argue with someone who is accusing you of being intoxicated when you are holding a beer in your hand, even though you know you’ve had 2 light beers in 4 hours. If someone else is holding a beer in their hand don’t you think it’s even more hypocritical for them to say anything? There can’t be band rules then “arbitrary band rules” for someone in the band who happens to be different. Equal treatment or there is no fairness. I ask people to critique my job, not who I am and my lifestyle, because I like who I am and I’ve always been fine this way. Until I fuck up my job, then there is no right to say anything, and every time I asked people told me I was doing a good job to my face. Also, last I checked this was rock and roll, not investment banking.

Putting all this out there without personal comment, I think it’s safe to say that there are no winners here. In fact, rumor has it that the same thing happened to Slymenstra.

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So what’s really happening here? Did GWAR fire Kim because she’s an alcoholic? Nobody else seems to believe that’s the case (or has come forward saying any such thing), so I’m not too sure about it myself. What I do know is that this is a familiar story. Remember Anette Olson? She claimed that she was replaced without being told as well, and while people are skeptical over whether or not this is true, it seems a little strange that this kind of thing has happened more than once.

I leave it to the readers to come to their own conclusions, but I’d also ask you to consider this:

Regardless of whether or not Kim is fired, the fact that they’re still going to use the character that she invented seems to be in poor taste. While the characters they portray on stage are the very essence of poor taste, I’d hope that the musicians themselves not be.

Then again, all publicity is good publicity.

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 Update 2:00 PM CST with another statement from Kim:
Kim Statement

 

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  • Dagon

    Why is Kerfuffle popping up so much lately? It’s like you guys are desperately trying to enhance my vocabulary.

  • Tyree

    Drink more beer!!! Join my band Kim, you’d fit in really well. Be a drunk with us.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzZcBceUZJw

  • CyberneticOrganism

    Protip: don’t drink too much before going onstage.

    • Tyree

      Bullshit!

      • lol

      • CyberneticOrganism

        Reward yourself AFTER you slay the posers

        http://grubulub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/zombiedust.jpg

        • Dagon

          I miss being in the US, beer-wise. Lots of cool micro breweries.

        • Tyree

          What is this? Looks tasty.

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            It’s a beer from 3 Floyds in Indiana. It’s owned by metalheads, but their beer is overrated.

          • Tyree

            Good to know. Never seen it here anyways.

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            I mean, try it if you can, but I haven’t been super impressed. I will say they made the hoppiest beer I’ve ever had though, Permanent Funeral.

            http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/26/91670/

          • Tyree

            Damn. That’s saying something. I’ll keep an eye out for it.

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            I’ve had it on tap and bottle. On tap it was so sweet and hoppy, it was hard to drink. Of course I went to a beerfest that day anyway, so my palate was wrecked.

          • Tyree

            I’ve done one beer fest, and I can confirm that palate’s be wrecked afterwards. Shit is rough. I think I had Old Rasputin for the first time there actually.

          • more beer

            I`m trying to volunteer at The Great American Beer Fest this year so I can get in for free. My friends neighbor is in charge of volunteers it`s the only way to get in. This thing sells out quicker than the super bowl. But it`s three days of drinking the best beers on earth.

          • Tyree

            Sounds like a good time. I should look into going to another one.

          • more beer

            it`s a huge event here.

          • Stockhausen

            I want to go to that so badly. My state’s craft beer festival is next Saturday and I’m massively hyped.

          • more beer

            I`ve tried since I`ve moved here. There are other one`s. But this one is the best. Great Divide has something every weekend across the street from a friends house I will probably do that a few times this summer.

          • Óðhinn
          • Dean the P.I. Staker

            Russian imperial stouts are brvtal. The first time I drank them, I had way too many, blacked out, and woke up covered in blood. Metal

          • Tyree

            Hahaha! Sounds accurate.

          • Guacamole Jim

            Whoa dude. That’s fucking intense. Russian Imperial stouts are my absolute favourite.. in moderation.

          • Dean the P.I. Staker

            Yep. It was all (or mostly?) my blood, but I don’t even know what happened. I was all cut up. My early 20’s were intense!

            It’s good beer for sure. But my fuck does it pack a punch!

          • Stockhausen

            Speaking of palates being wrecked, get your hands on Green Flash Palate Wrecker some day. That was one of the hoppiest I’ve ever had, and it lives up to its name.

          • Tyree

            I’ve had that. Shit is brvtal.

          • Stockhausen

            It really is. It was really intense getting through it, but I found myself oddly craving that bitter blast the next couple days.

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            Challenge accepted.

          • Their War Mullet was fucking badass. I have Permanent Funeral in the fridge right now. I haven’t had a beer of theirs I didn’t like. Zombie Dust is a great brew, but it definitely gets hyped up by a lot of people.

          • more beer

            We`ve got two breweries owned by metal heads in Denver and their beers are very good.

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            Is Trve one of them? I’ve heard good things about them. What’s the other?

          • Tyree

            I’ve heard really great things about TRVE Brewing.

          • more beer

            Except they keep weird hours. It`s kind of hit or miss going there. Black Sky is more dependable if you want to go out and drink.

          • Tyree

            Killer! I’ll look them up here.

          • more beer

            This is me and an old friend outside of there a couple of weeks ago. What more could a metal head ask for? They are also weed friendly there.

          • Tyree

            Beer.

            Pizza.

            Metal.

            Fucking AY, No worries!

          • more beer

            They do get their fair share of hipsters who think they are metal. But the staff can tell the difference.

          • more beer

            Trve and Black Sky. They are both good. These are places I leave with growlers from. Plus they are metalhead friendly.

          • Stockhausen

            TRVE is fantastic. An awesome brewery and business in general.

          • Tyree

            Did you stop there while on tour?

          • Stockhausen

            Yep. And since we were a touring band, they gave us the first round for free.

          • Tyree

            Nice!

          • more beer

            I just looked that up and you can only get it in 4 states. Neither of us lives in one of those states. Which kind of sucks since I`ve been to a couple of show they cosponsored I know the venues had a little bit of their beer. .

          • CyberneticOrganism

            The greatest beer known to man.

          • Tyree

            No way.

          • CyberneticOrganism

            Lemme know when you’re in Chicago and I’ll get you one.

          • more beer

            What do you know you`re a robot.

          • Tyree
        • Stockhausen

          Oooh, a friend of mine has a homebrew clone that’s absolutely spot on. I may need to hang out with him soon after seeing this picture.

    • Nina Osegueda

      I don’t think Kim ever did. This whole thing is infuriating.

      • I think he was speaking more in a broad sense and not directing it in any way at Kim.

        GL

      • CyberneticOrganism

        How do you know her anyway? Just friends or in a professional capacity?

    • ChuggaChuggaDeedleyDoo

      But I become better looking with every drink I consume

    • Oli Fucking Sykes, Son.

      I know I go on about them a bit too much, but look at BMTH as a prime example.
      Their shows (and music) were notably terrible during their early drinking days. However, as they slowed down with the drinking, they went from everyone hating them to really divisive. Quite a big step up if you ask me.
      *Hands in membership card before King Shit tries to drag me to the toilet*

      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        Who is BMTH?

        • Guacamole Jim

          Bring Me The Horizon

          • Tyree

            Poop.

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            Nope to oblivion.

  • Guacamole Jim

    Band drama <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    Everyone is always sure they're on the side of righteousness. Usually everyone involved is being a dink.

    • Spear

      It’s always been my policy that the moment “band politics” come into play, it’s time to leave that band.

    • JWG

      Solo projects are the best way to avoid band drama.
      Sometimes even that doesn’t work.

  • Mother Shabubu III 12 BRICKS

    I’ll just come out an say it: I’ve never really enjoyed GWAR’s music, I mean I don’t hate it either, but GWAR without Dave Brockie just feels so weird and wrong to me. Whenever I thought of GWAR, I always pictured Oderus as the face of the band.

    • I’ve always dug GWAR. I saw them twice with Brockie and once with the revolving-cast lineup. It is still very, very fun. Well worth the price of admission.

      • Mother Shabubu III 12 BRICKS

        I was always more of a fan of Brockie’s character rather than the band. His appearance on the Metal Injection Livecast was really funny. Like he would randomly go into these nutty, drunken diatribes, then have moments of sanity where he’d actually answer the questions.

    • Tyree

      “Baby Dick Fuck.
      Take your fat tongue!
      And curl it into a ‘U’,
      You take and unborn child who knows not what you do.
      Baby Dick Fuck.”

      • sweetooth0

        “Take a child in champing jaws, a pulping pile of frothing flaws, this horrid mass shall give us pause, as putrid rot fills gaping maws”.

        That shit is fucking Shakespeare!

    • sweetooth0

      Even though Gwar started out as this big “group art project” thing, I think I feel pretty confident in saying Brockie had been steering that ship for a good long time. Gwar without Brockie is a sham.

      My interest in any post Brockie Gwar is zero.

  • I am glad to see Sarah writing again, even though it is over silly reasons.

    Nice work Sarah!

    GL

  • Shrimp in a Pizza Box

    I’ve never listened to a single GWAR song in my entire life.
    This whole drama thing is amusing me to no end.

  • Óðhinn

    “Also, last I checked this was rock and roll, not investment banking.”

    She has a point. When it becomes more about the business, it also tends to lose some of the spontaneity and creativity.

    Is a couple of beers that bad? A couple of beers shouldn’t hurt your performance for a rock show.

  • ENSWOLENMENTBEARD, BASED LAWD©

    Man, I need a drink.

    • Tyree
      • The W.

        Is this from Prometheus? I haven’t seen it since it came out.

        • Tyree

          Yeah, this scene cracks me up for some reason.

          • The W.

            Did you like the movie? I remember thinking it was pretty violent and not disliking it per se, but it seems everyone hated it.

          • Tyree

            Great cast and visuals, but the movie was nothing great. Still a fun watch though, some sick scenes.

          • The W.

            I need to watch it again to see how I feel about it on a second viewing.

          • i’m the camp of YES! a few holes in the overall logic of the film (and peoples’ motivations) but that’s the worst i can say about it. watch it in 3D if you get the chance (it was natively filmed in 3D and it shows)

          • Óðhinn

            Yeah, some plot holes. I liked it though. Haven’t seen it in 3D. Native 3D isn’t necessarily better. It can be limiting.

          • I never understood why some people thought it was horrible. I guess it was because they thought it was going to be an Alien movie. I thought it was pretty good.

          • Scrimm

            Again we must disagree. I saw it in imax 3d and everything, but still a nope.

          • our disagreements are what keep us together <3

          • Scrimm

            That’s a good way to look at it

          • Tyree

            I have yet to watch it in 3D.

          • Scrimm

            You shouldn’t do that.

    • Óðhinn
      • Nina Osegueda

        Aww I love Hellboy.. <3

  • King Shit of Fuck Mountain
  • Between this and the the details of the lawsuit against Gwar that Dave Brockie’s father filed, it looks like the ” Scumdogs of the Universe” have become the Scumbags of the Universe

    • Óðhinn

      True.

  • zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  • Óðhinn
  • Óðhinn
  • King Shit of Fuck Mountain
  • I do not have enough information to make a conclusion on what I think about this. As I know essentially nothing about either person, I can’t make a call as to whether one of them is lying.

    • I often resign myself to the fact that I don’t know shit about fuck. It’s very comforting.

  • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

    Newsflash: GWAR died with Dave….not a huge surprise. A disappointment for sure but not a big surprise at least to this here clown.

    • Óðhinn

      You’re probably right.

      • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

        From what I heard and read he was the driving force, the vision and glue that bound Gwar together…

  • life’s just more fun with more beer! i bet Kim was just having fun and not overdoing it. everyone’s got their own stories, but most people know their limit and don’t risk their own employment over booze!

    • Tyree
      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        Holy fuck, that dude’s teeth.

        • Tyree

          Shane lives a hard lifestyle.

          http://focus.levif.be/medias/342/175242.jpg

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            Horrendous.

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            It got better….

          • Tyree

            I can’t believe he’s not fucking dead.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SirutCHZ-QI

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            Genetics, I guess.

          • Nina Osegueda

            Oh God.. I know all of their songs. x_x

          • Óðhinn

            Love The Pogues.

            Poor Shane though. He does have a problem.

          • CyberneticOrganism

            GAAAHH

      • this is superb on many levels.

        • Tyree

          Well, he got fired from the band. That was my point here due to abuse. But yes, this song jams.

      • Óðhinn

        I don’t like christmas songs usually, but I do like this…

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9jbdgZidu8

    • Guppusmaximus

      I’d like to think that was true but I met many a homeless person who rattled the change cup to buy booze or brown-bagged Listerine. The ones that are functional may not risk their employment but they just risk their own lives either drinking & driving after work or in the long haul with cirrhosis of the liver.

  • Óðhinn
  • Matt Pike’s Sweaty Left Nipple

    *sigh*
    I miss Oderus…

  • Óðhinn
  • Óðhinn

    I don’t know that much about Kim, but she seems like a nice person…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rnA-_FOwrE0

  • Bucket ‘o Blood

    What a shitshow. Best not to pick sides, but there was a whole lot of untactfulness going on here between both parties.

  • CT-12

    Even though this situation is shitty, GWAR almost never retires characters and I don’t think the character should die just because Kim’s out of the band. I mean, Corey Smoot was the 4th or 5th Flattus Maximus.

  • Every Day Reader

    Unpleasantly surprised to see this metalsucks drama bullshit on the toilet. Article even has a screenshot of a comment from metalsucks. I come hear to hear and read about music, not stupid shit that goes on between musicians. Why does anyone care? It’s all hearsay, we’ll never know which party is being truthful in their argument, or indeed if either is. Just a waste all around.