Recommendations Ov Hell: Jimmy McNulty vs Boss the Ross

In which falsetto screams and “UGH!”s battle both weedles AND deedles.

Inspired by the great Toilet Ov Hell Record Swap series, I bring you “Recommendations Ov Hell.” While Record Swap is the equivalent of wandering through the woods with no map or guidance (listening to albums with no prior knowledge of the band), Recommendations Ov Hell is like a life raft going down a river. Using prior knowledge of preferred bands and genres, you recommend a starting point in Youtube for your partner to listen to and review. From there, they click on Youtube’s recommended songs on the side band and repeat the process four more times. This is all in an effort to discover new bands in your wheelhouse that you may not have discovered on your own.

One of my favorite people on the Toilet (and yours too) is Jimmy McNulty, and it is with great honor that I collaborated with him on today’s Rec ov Heck. During our discussion of this great meeting of the minds, he asked me to give him a song that might convince him of the greatness that is King Diamond, while I wanted to delve into the Proggy Death Metal he so loves. After sharing tales of both woe and happiness, we parted and went our separate paths.


Jimmy’s Assignment:

Here is the moment that Boss the Ross may convert me into a King Diamond fan or stay on course as a person who does not care for King Diamond. It all lies in the balance right now. Oh yeah, I’ve heard this before, I can predict that chorus. The voice, THE VOICE. This is what prevents me from enjoying King Diamond. I understand that he is immensely talented, but those high notes do not appeal to me one bit. And these riffs are really good. And the guitar solos are also really good. And every other voice he uses is great. But those highs, they’re killin’ me. It is going to take a lot more to sway me than this, so King Diamond remains a “flush” for me. I will never seek out more of his music on my own.

I know King Diamond was in Mercyful Fate, so I’m willing to give “Witches Dance” a shot. Starts out a little cheesy. And yuck, there are those vocals again. Those NWOBHM-style riffs are good, but the “other bands” do it so much better. That alone is why I don’t dig this: other bands do the music better… without the grating vocals! And it’s way too catchy. I do not enjoy a vocal hook that flows in a manner that a mainstream rock song might. I’m giving it credit for being super catchy but I not a fan when it sounds as if it is intended to rhyme like a children’s chant. (Smash Mouth’s “All Star” is the very definition of what I’m talking about.) Decent song, terrible vocals, next.

I don’t think I have ever heard a song by Venom. I would love to start here with “Nightmare.” Woah, this is way too spoopy for me! Must refrain from doing a 365-style video breakdown here. Oh no. I’m not hearing any redeeming values in this here. I really hope this was just taken from a particularly low point in their career (all bands have ‘em). This. video. is. cheesy. I imagine this to be a tongue-in-cheek song and video, like I imagine that one Immortal video to be. But heck, it sure is catchy. This isn’t horrible, I’m just presuming it disappointed fans of the band when it was released, no matter which year that was.

Oh hell yes, I’ve been wanting to hear the original version of “Circle of Tyrants” ever since I discovered it via Opeth’s cover a decade ago. I enjoy a few Celtic Frost and/or Triptykon songs, so I’m completely open-minded about this. Right off the bat, this is a yes. Yes all the way, everything about this is great. What have I been missing all my life?? This detective may have to do some future Discog Diving with this band! Oh and then the famous “UGH,” the icing on the cake. I am in love. Lastly:

I have little to no Candlemass experience, having only been recommended one album by them by another Disqus user around three years ago. I don’t hate them, nor am I a big fan of doom. Some convincing I shall require. But, as with most things, I am open to suggestion! This music is good, though. Though the riff is slow enough to put me to sleep, it IS enjoyable. What I’m trying to say is that doom isn’t bad, I just am never in the mood for it. It’s extremely rare for me to enjoy doom. Candlemass makes the cut though; this is an extremely solid jam. The catchiness isn’t as overbearing as in that King Diamond track. I would say that this level of theatricality is completely acceptable in my book, so it loses zero points for that. Killer guitar solo included. Friends, I may enjoy Candlemass enough to seek out future recommendations!

This “Recommendations ov Hell” turns out to be a great exercise for a heavy metal latecomer like myself. Come at me with a King Diamond song that you think will be guaranteed to change my mind. And definitely, share with me some good Celtic Frost!


Boss’s assignment:

Mr. Detective started me off with Abyssal‘s “Chrysalis” and my trip down prog death was initiated. What caught me first was the album art, a cave. Get ready for reverb! As the song started I was introduced to a very interesting mixture of mid-paced drumming, slow churning riffs and yes, you guessed it, reverb. This definitely has the feeling of its album cover. To my surprise, the song shifted after a few minutes in, to a passage of intricate drum fills and airy, atmospheric guitar riffs. This was really good! Staring at the album art while listening is very entrancing, to say the least. The song finishes with more heavy riffs that sink me lower into my chair; I feel like the artwork is moving and I might get sucked in.

Working my way down the suggestion bar I notice an array of oddly placed videos, so I hunted towards the bottom and found a band called Hacride. Alright, let’s go! Immediately my head commences to bobbing. This intro riff really bounces well, though it feels like it is taken out-of-place in the scope of an album. I may have to do some research on this one. “Act of God” is a serious groove trip, fans of Gojira (sorry that’s my default groove/prog/metal band) will certainly enjoy this. The singer is earnest in his delivery, and I would also be very interested to check out the lyrics. All that aside, the outro is what really sets the song off though: spaced-out guitar solos over some super heavy riffage. Couple that with the fading tinks on a piano and you have a winner.

Next from the suggested video bar is Gorod’s “State of Secret” which I initially clicked on because the album art intrigued me. What I found was a pretty decent prog death song. It starts out a little uninspired, and the vocalist reminds me a little too much of Corpsegrinder, but when the melodies kick in at 1:36 I was very surprised and glad to hear them. Unfortunately, they are over before I can sink my teeth in. Weedles ensue for a little while, but they don’t do much for me. HOWEVER, at 2:29 the band really make it awesome; the next ten seconds are the best part of the song. And then back to the deedles. The band plays with an interesting formula on this song and I really enjoy the slowed down, more melodic portions.

Once again, I am intrigued by the cover art and go with “A Problem Yet To Be Solved” by Anata. The intake of breath that starts the song felt misplaced. Until the song was over that is. “Problem” didn’t let up once; it was a full-force attack with sharp riffs and drums of surgical precision. Impressively enough, the band is able to intersperse some really exquisite grooves within this tech death assault, and to that I must really give them kudos. My biggest complaint is that I can just barely hear the octave lead at the 2:06 mark, which I had to replay a few times to distinguish it from the rest of the chaos. Those few seconds would’ve been excellently placed at the forefront and utilized throughout the song. I do realize though that this could be the youtube compression of quality.

At this point, I am seeing some Redman videos that are calling my name, so I will call it quits here while I’m ahead. In all, I listened to some fairly enjoyable tracks and will be checking out more of what Hacride has to offer. Thanks Jimmy!


And that is it! Pretty painless, and we both came out wiser than before. Does this kinda thing interest you? Want to give it a shot yourself? It’s easy, just hook up with a buddy, watch a few recommended videos, write something up, and submit it to the Toilet Ov Hell, subject: Recommendations Ov Hell. Be sure to include links to the songs.

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  • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

    The Emperor’s Return version of Tyrants is better. Whole EP rules.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myZrxKhDrIs

    • Señor Jefe El Rosa

      Both are better than the Opeth cover though

      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        Well, that’s a given.

      • Dr. K

        Obituary cover is pretty good, though.

        • Señor Jefe El Rosa

          I’ll have to check it out

  • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

    Nightmare is a terrible Venom song as are all music videos. Listen to all of Welcome to Hell.

    • Señor Jefe El Rosa

      Music videos in general? Or just Venom’s?

      Gotta throw Black Metal in there too

      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        All music videos.

        • Señor Jefe El Rosa

          Haha, alrighty then.

    • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

      Best song to get into Venom is imo

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc7xLNR97YM

      LET ME OUT OF HEEEEEEEEEERRRRREEEEEEEEE

      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        Obviously Black Metal is a great album, but Teacher’s Pet ruins the vibe. Welcome to Hell is a fucking beast.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRpikSZHHRY

        • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

          Teacher’s Pet is rather cringe yeah. For untrained ears, I think Black Metal is more “easily accessible” though. Welcome to Hell is dirty af.

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            Agreed.

        • Señor Jefe El Rosa

          Angel Dust just slays

        • Elegant Gazing Globe

          wanna buy my italian first press? It would have a better home with you than with me

    • I will try it out!

    • Óðinn
      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        The first three Venom albums rule anyway.

        • Óðinn

          This is true.

  • tigeraid

    Always upvote Mercyful Fate.

  • tigeraid

    Also I think McNulty got the more pleasant job here. Sit and enjoy Candlemass!

    • Señor Jefe El Rosa

      Haha, I saw his playlist and was totally jealous!

      • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

        Jimmy had a killer playlist. Your playlist on the other hand was a slight nope to Frank’s ears.

        • Señor Jefe El Rosa

          Haha! You may dig Hacride, if you don’t dislike them already.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            I’ve listened to Hacride before, but I wasn’t really blown away. They sound a bit like Gojira, except for the fact that Gojira already did that sound way better. Never really got into Gorod either.
            Abyssal is not bad tho; neither is Anata but the album Link posted above is way better than the one you listened to.

      • Strangely I haven’t heard two of those four (Anata and Hayride). About to rectify that! And if you want to pursue more Gorod, A Perfect Absolution is their top performance

  • Dr. K

    Speaking ill of the King? Turn over your badge and gun and leave the hall, McNulty.

    • Señor Jefe El Rosa

      His adoration for Celtic Frost makes up slightly for his misstep though.

      • Dr. K

        Mmm, except he apparently had never listened to them before. Once he familiarizes himself with the whole discography – YES EVEN COLD LAKE – I may vote that he be permitted to stand IN THE BACK OF THE HALL.

        • Señor Jefe El Rosa

          Very well! I can not dispute your LOGIC OV STEEL

    • I am not sure if I think anything bad about them….but none of it appeals to me

      • Heliocrat

        Pay them no mind Officer. I too get annoyed by those awful vocals. I kinda like some songs, despite the vocals. Melissa (the album, not just the song) is great.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKoSh4cCIOg

  • Kevin Nash’s Jackknife

    Jimmy plz! Mercyful Fate is the best!

  • If you don’t like King Diamond, you’re gunna have a bad time.

    • Óðinn

      True. If they could release his albums as instrumentals, I’d probably enjoy them quite a bit more.

  • Paddlin’ Rites ov Beargod

    It’s almost like Jimmy’s trying to appear a bad, bad person.
    ~gently rustling in the wind~

  • Elegant Gazing Globe

    My two cents on KD/MF.
    In The Shadows was Mercyful Fate’s last “good” album.
    Andy Laroque and Mike Weed are a far better guitar tandem than Sherman/Denner. Essential KD albums are Fatal Portrait, Abigail, and Them.

    • Paddlin’ Rites ov Beargod

      Counter-cents.
      9 is better than In The Shadows, but the ones between are barely passable.
      As a duo, I might agree with your assessment of Laroque/Weed, but as individual riff masters – Sherman/Denner have a higher Killer-per-song-per-album ratio.
      Those are most often considered the essential KD.

      • Elegant Gazing Globe

        I prefer the concept albums that follow a theme, 9 didn’t seem to have that.

      • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

        I’ve gotta agree I like Sherman/Denner more than Laroque/Weed, although Laroque/Weed do kick all sorts of ass nonetheless.

        • Elegant Gazing Globe

          Some of the best solo backing riffs out there come from both of these camps.

          • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

            I overuse this analogy constantly, but when comparing 2 things I love very dearly to one another, I like to say it’s a Ride the Lightning vs Master of Puppets situation. Some will favor one over the other, but both fucking own at the end of the day.

  • Not going to deny that KD is a talented singer, I just don’t like the sounds coming out of his mouth. His voice would come in handy if you needed a window broken or something.

    • My thoughts exactly. Can’t deny his talent

      • There was a professional classical trained singer who did an interview with Loudwire or some website like that. In that one, she claimed that King Diamond is extremely gifted, but she felt he was all virtuosity and sometimes he exceeds too much on the falsettos.

        According to her, King is the Tech Death of the classic merol!

    • I do like KD, but that analogy was hilarious!

    • Elegant Gazing Globe

      try it at stoplights, max vol with your windows down

      • When I do that, it just sounds like “rargh rargh rargh!”

    • Yep.

  • Abradolf Lincler

    Coulda just been a page full of Celtic Frost videos

    • Señor Jefe El Rosa

      Not a bad idea…

      • Abradolf Lincler

        UGH!!

        • Señor Jefe El Rosa

          UGH!!! to you too!

  • Jimmy, you gotta at least check this track out.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62zt0CZid4

    • Señor Jefe El Rosa

      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    • Will do fo sho!

      • Al Bundy

        Ffs. My reply to link was meant for you

    • That album is an album that I would say is a great album.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpk1wJ62CrQ

      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        The ending riff on this song is one of the best riffs ever.

      • Al Bundy

        You heard this before? Kings vocals are very subdue on this song and the choon has groove
        http://youtu.be/cIULVRLh4e0

        • Óðinn

          I like his vocals on this one the best. 😉

          https://youtu.be/T1ZYl081D14

          • Al Bundy

            Yeah i also like it very much, i mean dont get me wrong i could listen to King all day, ( GRANDMAAA!!!) but i can see how his voice might grate on the casual listener.

      • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

        Oh man, I almost forgot about another one that isn’t as reliant on the high-pitched vocals: Desolation of Souls.

        Jimmy’s new assignment is to marathon the self-titled EP through Don’t Break the Oath.

  • Elegant Gazing Globe

    Riff or Raff idea: Sherman/Denner vs Laroque/Weed

    • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

      I think I know who’d win, but I still wanna see it. Goddamnit, seems like as soon as I get off of a major Mercyful Fate kick, now I’m gonna be back on it again..

  • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

    While I do like King Diamond’s solo work, I always preferred the first two Mercyful Fate albums over any KD solo album. Abigail is fantastic, but the other KD albums have a bit too much of a cheesy “Goosebumps” vibe going on. Melissa and Don’t Break the Oath on the other hand have a genuinely eerie occult atmosphere.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0d9Zhyok0g

    • Elegant Gazing Globe

      and two VERY different records in terms of the sound stylings.

      • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

        True. The songs on Melissa are in terms of structure also way more fragmental (look no further than Satan’s Fall), but strangely enough it’s the disjointed songwriting approach that adds a sense of mystery and obscurity to the album.

        • Elegant Gazing Globe

          I was referring more to the sonic differences, Melissa has a very organic tube “overdrive” tone, while DBtO is definitely a sharper, transistor based distortion. But I don’t disagree with your songwriting analysis.

  • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

    I discovered Mercyful Fate through the Metallica medley on Garage, Inc. Yeah, I know, not the truest way of discovery, but what did it for me was the main riff from Into the Coven. That song converted me, not just into a Mercyful Fate/King Diamond fan, but also the riff that made me go “I don’t care how conservatively I was raised and how overtly Satanic these lyrics are, this riff is THE FUCKING JAM.”

    But yeah, if you’re not into KD, I don’t think any of the KD material will do it for you. If you check out the more classic ‘Fate material (Don’t Break the Oath or prior), that might just do it. Groovy as fuck (reminds me of 70s Priest too).

    Into the Coven is definitely my favorite. (Riff at 0:52)
    https://youtu.be/raN5uiZrJmU

    • Elegant Gazing Globe

      Lotta people say that Melissa wouldn’t be as revered as it is if not for Metallica covers.

      • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

        I could see that, but I think the Metallica covers were probably just more an entry point for those who’d have otherwise been turned off by the vocals (myself included). Once you get used to (or grow to love) KD’s vocals, the guitars are absolutely unfuckwithable. My opinion, of course 😛

        • Elegant Gazing Globe

          same. I really enjoy the story telling on the early KD albums

          • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

            I’ve always thought it was funny how so many KD songs (and later MF stuff) have badass instrumentation, and “sort of creepy I guess” lyrics. Early Mercyful Fate is all Satan, sacrifices, etc, but then later there’s the song “Uninvited Guest” for example, whose lyrics are just about a little old man standing around looking creepy, but not actually doing anything. Despite the inaction in the lyrics, the riffs are great, though, and the vocals themselves are still great too.

    • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

      There’s also this, which has a lot less focus on the high vocals. As much as I grew to love the highs, my favorite stuff focuses the most on the lower end of his range with the highs accenting more. Check this out:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDMXylcacGE

  • Dumpster Lung ᴰᵃᵐᵃᵍᵉ_ᴵⁿᶜ⁸⁹

    Also, congrats on being turned onto Candlemass! One of my favorites. I don’t doom it up all the time, but when I do, they are my #1 go-to. My favorite song might be At the Gallows End, from the same album as Bewitched. If Bewitched was a little on the slow side, this ought to do it (once you get to around 1:00 in):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnFJJfwiwb4

  • AeonsOvChaos

    If you want a bestial mix of Death and Black Metal, here:http://caligarirecords.bandcamp.com/album/el-dia-de-la-bestia

  • KSoFM, you know it’s time to worry if I change my DISQUS avatar to a CF album…

  • I need to peep some Boss discoveries, but Gorod is very cool, you should try it a little bit more, not your daily style, I know, but it’s a good. Lacertilian gave me this song once and I dug. The groovy beginning is so wild.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuI_dszhV6U

    Also, my favorite MF song is Witches’ Dance! jajajaja! You should check some live footage, Mañulti, coincidentially, yesterday I was talking with Boss about King Diamond and I passed to him this live version of The Invisible Guests in Huehuehueland, it’s amazing, he have a great control of his pitch, and Andy Larocque is killing it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1mNwxt-8Vw

    This was a fun read, kudos to both of my good friends of the blog for sharing righteous tunes.

    Also, Venom sucks.

    • Elegant Gazing Globe

      Lacertillian only likes these guys because they play a telecaster

    • Señor Jefe El Rosa

      Venom does not suck link!

  • Old Man Doom

    I really dig this feature, dudes. Great stuff!

  • Eliza

    I’m digging that Abyssal song. Also, if you want to get into Celtic Frost, listen to the album To Mega Therion. It worked for me.

    • I will do exactly that. And check out that whole Abyssal album if you ever get bored. The whole thing is great (if you dig cavernous death merol)

      • Eliza

        I do like cavernous death, so I’ll check this out. Eventually.

  • OldMetalHead

    I didn’t really appreciate the King Diamond song above, but the Merciful Fate is enjoyable. I’ve been listening to the new Avenged since this morning, and I can hear Merciful Fate’s influence in some of their stuff.

  • Waynecro

    Awesome work, bros! I had a blast reading this. I have to agree with you, McNults: I just can’t get into King Diamond’s vocals. He’s talented as hell, but I’m just not a fan of falsetto vocals in general. I do like a lot of KD and Mercyful Fate songs, though. When I was 16, I was in a band with this older metalhead who played Fate in his truck all the time. I think we even covered some Fate and Queensryche jams, but I was so drunk at the time that I have very few memories of that period.

  • sweetooth0

    King Diamond fucking RULES! Just allow the high pitched falsetto to guide you into Satan’s loving arms…