Penelope Spheeris working on a new Decline of Western Civilization, Nikki Sixx is a scumbag

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The Wayne’s World director, now 70, sets the record straight in a new interview with Pitchfork and mentions that a new Decline of Western Civilization chapter is on the way.

If you’ve never seen The Decline of Western Civilization you are bad and wrong. Filmed in 1979/1980 Los Angeles, it provides a brilliant snapshot of the insane punk culture that had taken the city, ushered in by punk legends Black Flag, Circle Jerks, and Fear. If you’ve never seen The Decline of Western Civilization Part II you are bad and wrong and depriving yourself of the joy of seeing a bunch of 80s metal assholes make themselves look like colossal idiots. If you’ve never seen The Decline of Western Civilization Part III you are… most of the world. For the first time, the third installment of this wildly entertaining series is commercially available in a convenient package with the absolutely essential first two documentaries (available for purchase now). They’re great. Watch them.

To promote this new box set, Decline and Wayne’s World director Penelope Spheeris spoke with Pitchfork about her life, the documentaries, Mike Meyers, and the perils of Nikki Sixx dating your daughter. I’ve included a particularly strange excerpt below:

Pitchfork: The sexual identity of the men in Decline II is really interesting. There’s a huge drag aspect to their attire, but they’re so aggressively masculine and predatory.

Penelope Spheeris: I believe the reason that they dressed so feminine is so that so that they didn’t intimidate the young girls; the guys with the makeup and the fluffy hair were going to get laid a little quicker. And the key there is young girls. When Anna was working on Decline II, she was going out with Nikki Sixx—it was one of the worst times of my life! All my rock’n’roll lifestyle had come back to bite me in the ass because—how old were you, darling?

Anna Fox: 17.

PS: And from the story I heard, he might have bragged that you were younger.

AF: Yeah, he told everybody I was 15.

Pitchfork: I can’t imagine the stress of your child going out with Nikki Sixx.

PS: I made him come over to the house to meet me because that was the rule. So he came over and that was, you know, [sarcastically] fun.

Pitchfork: Did he behave himself?

PS: No. [laughs]

AF: He was all done up because he had just done a photoshoot: full make-up, full costume, hair teased out. What did he say to you?

PS: “You said that you didn’t want your daughter going out with a 40-year-heroin addict, and I don’t like that.” I told him, “I’m sorry, I don’t mean to insult you. How old are you?” He couldn’t dispute the heroin addict aspect.

 

If my hypothetical child ever asks to date this, I’m locking him/her in a castle.

So that’s gross! The whole interview is worth a read, so check it out here.

(Black Flag is always the best.)

(Depending on how your day is going, this is either hilarious or heartbreaking. I lean towards the latter.)

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  • Kevin Nash & Friends

    Yay! I loved the second one and I’m excited for part 4.

  • Dubzlinger, Malandro Slayer

    Man, that Chris Holmes interview is so depressing.

    • Void Dweller

      Nah, it’s awesome, just as awesome as his new videos. Holy shit.

      • yeah, he’s cleaned up really well

        • Void Dweller

          He’s a gorgeous man.

          • KJM

            I would sooner look like Chris Holmes than Blackie.

      • Bitter (Tyree) Debra

        Bro, do you even Born Work Die?

      • Rho Stone

        you have no idea the level of schadenfreude I feel while watching those

    • Rho Stone

      you have no idea the level of schadenfreude I feel while watching them

  • Void Dweller

    A new one??? Why??

    • Dubzlinger, Malandro Slayer

      I’m curious which period they’ll cover.

      • Void Dweller

        What was the 3rd one about, since nobody has ever seen it?

        • Dubzlinger, Malandro Slayer

          Just looked it up. Gutter punk and homeless teens in LA.

          • Void Dweller

            Horrible.

      • Lacertilinger
        • Dubzlinger, Malandro Slayer

          From the interview:

          Pitchfork: A few years ago you said there was a fourth Decline project in the works. Is that still happening?

          PS: We’ve started working on it, but I’m not allowed to say [what it focuses on] because it would make us vulnerable to people doing something similar.

          • My guess is Warpedtourcore

          • Dubzlinger, Malandro Slayer

            I need more exposes about Juggalos in my life.

          • true. who’s gonna write this one up? @KJMKerrAvon666:disqus?

          • more beer

            No you really don`t. They were everywhere in Albuquerque. You should have gotten more than your fill when you lived there.

          • I know My Chemical Romance will be involved.

          • CyberneticOrganism

            Black metal

    • Bitter (Tyree) Debra

      Don’t worry, all the bands that they’ll worship in this one will be beyond great.

      • Void Dweller

        Haha, nope.

  • Void Dweller

    Jon’s last show before prison.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrWZ2e0EpXU

    • Lacertilinger

      Bad quality is correct.
      Spewin’

    • Bitter (Tyree) Debra

      They seriously were one of the tightest live metal bands of all time. It’s really mind blowing to watch their live performances. This video is hard to justify that, but there are plenty of others out there that prove this point as you well know. Ole Öhman is phenomenal drummer to watch too, so tight.

      • Void Dweller

        That’s not Ole Ohman, he left right after Light’s Bane was recorded. The drummer is Tobias Kellgren.

        • Bitter (Tyree) Debra

          Good to know. I had no idea he left right after he recorded Light’s Bane. How many drummers did they go through, 3?

          • Void Dweller

            Yeah, pretty much, unless you count Faust’s brief tenure.

          • Bitter (Tyree) Debra

            Ole Öhman did the albums I appreciate the most though.

          • Void Dweller

            Yeah, he’s on the all excellent recorded shit.

      • Zeke

        My biggest metal disappointment: when I was 14, morbid angel came to ny on the domination tour with dissection (sotlb era) and at the gates (slaughter of the souls era) as support. The club was 16 and older so I couldn’t go

  • Scrimm

    Never seen any of these.

    • Paddlin’ Rites ov Beargod

      Ha, same.

    • They’re a ton of fun to watch (especially pt. 2).

      • Void Dweller

        I could watch part 2 all day.

      • Scrimm

        I’ll have to give it a shot.

    • Sir Tapir The Based

      Me neither.

    • I watched some clips in some latin american Rock and Heavy Metal VH1 docs. I remember watching Ozzy in pijamas or something.

      Wouldnotwatch/10

  • Rho Stone

    so is it going to be the dank years?

    • HessianHunter

      I hope part 4 focuses on the occult doom/stoner/beards/craft beer scene of the 2010’s and how it’s a lulzy albeit benign influence on our children’s lives.

      • Rho Stone

        Sincerely I doubt it’d be about metal at all if they continue the trend of what’s happening in LA in a determined time period, it’s most probably going to be about vapid narcissistic leftie hipsters.

        • HessianHunter

          Those last four words could describe hundreds of distinct subcultures. I bet the EDM/rave scene would be appropriate material.

          • Rho Stone

            It’s all the same, only the clothing changes

  • Bitter (Tyree) Debra

    And by punk rock legends Fear, you mean David McCall?

    https://ayearinvideo.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/20120429-142221.jpg

  • KJM

    The 2-toned hair guy used to hang out in Harvard and Kenmore Sq. His only true talent was looking and acting weird.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KqYSqIHU_s

    • Void Dweller

      What’s that guy doing right now? I would love to know.

      • KJM

        Unless he did a complete 180 degree reversal, I can’t imagine him doing anything constructive. He didn’t seem very bright.

        • Void Dweller

          Doesn’t seem bright in the video, so no surprise there.

    • Jajajajaja!!

    • Guppusmaximus

      I think that was the only true talent of most of the freaks that hung out at the pit in Harvard Sq. especially the ones who spent all their time & money on the Punk uniform of the day.

      • KJM

        Ha! Very true. Didja hang out there back then?

        • Guppusmaximus

          Not so much in the late 80s except when I went to see Rocky Horror Picture Show live at at that theater down the street a ways. However, I did experience the pit once more in the early 90s with the whole punk explosion. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a freak too but I just always felt like those people had a stuffy attitude for no reason.

          • KJM

            Agreed, many of them did. It was a very clique-ey scene.

  • Ted ‘Toth’ Nü-Djent ™

    The good thing that came out of part II is that Chris Holmes saw the fool that he had made of himself and realised that it was time to straighten up and fly right.

    • God

      Proud of him. What a stand up guy.

    • Kevin Nash & Friends

      Chris Holmes is a great man. He’s improved his life so much and his solo career is amazing. I still like WASP more though.

      • Bitter (Tyree) Debra

        I’m soaking this comment in right now.

    • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

      gotta be honest, not sure what all the WASP love is about…

  • The Fish Boz

    I am bad and wrong, but you are right. Black Flag is always the best, even when you’re just hearing them underneath someone else’s music.

    • Lacertilinger

      Jason Fuller from Blood Duster had that Black Flag charity cover album come out recently. A lot of different bands, was interesting.
      https://goatsoundstudios.bandcamp.com/releases

      • The Fish Boz

        Gonna check it out when I come back from the gym.

        • Lacertilinger

          It’s name your price but proceeds go to Sea Shepherd

  • Paddlin’ Rites ov Beargod

    Welp, never seen any of these.

  • MANDATORY REMEMBER THAT I AM FREE FROM WORK TODAY BECAUSE OUR LIBERTADOR BORN A 24TH JULY!

    THANK YOU SIMÓN BOLÍVAR, I’M GOING TO SHOOT TO THE AIR TODAY IN YOUR MEMORY.

    #LIBERTADOR #FATHEROFVENEZUELA #THANKSMAKINGTHISSHITHOLE

    http://40.media.tumblr.com/54a7d65eab61f05fe4a5b6c671205ab6/tumblr_nl6d4kEDY31rvtvymo2_1280.jpg

    • Disgustache

      Don’t stoop to the malandro level.

    • #THANKSMAKINGTHISSHITHOLE

      maxlolz/10

      GL

  • Bozamole Jim

    Have never seen these, but probably should. Also: ewwwwwww Nikki Sixx.

  • I don’t like Motley Crue, and the band members like awful human beings.

    But, this song is good for feeling good. I like the bass lines (not the cocaine ones, I’m a straight edge half elf).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPbLXIdxDk

    • Lacertilinger

      We don’t need Motley Crue Link, you kick start our hearts!

    • Void Dweller

      First two albums is all you need.

    • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

      everything you just said was spot on…

  • HessianHunter

    Butbutbut how can be Black Flag w/o Henrry Rolings??? Shenanigans I say

    • more beer

      Keith Morris, Ron Reyes, and Dez Cadenda. That`s how. Rollins wasn`t around until 81.

      • HessianHunter
        • more beer

          All their best stuff was pre Rollin’s. Damaged was great. But it was all down hill from there.

          • HessianHunter

            I think My War is sweet, but Rollins is the least cool part. He’s my least favorite Black Flag Singer. I’m also the fuckin’ dork that thinks Process of Weeding Out is the best Black Flag album, so I gotta disagree about it all being downhill.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_BqufJhHYA

  • Guppusmaximus

    It’s easy to pick apart the second installment nowadays because the new breed of Metal bands don’t have to deal with an over intrusive Christian right-wing that called all Hard Rock & Heavy Metal “the devil’s music” and sought for a ban which included the start of a fascist group called the PMRC. Never mind the popular mind set of “rockstars” including those from the 70s that Drugs & Alcohol were part of the job requirements, so much so, that MTV ruined Headbanger’s Ball by hiring that Ricki fuck who only ever promoted his shit ass glam rock club. I love 80s Rock & Metal but…Fuck that scene and the politics involved!!

  • Disgustache

    When did people get together and decide that this is the new way for “rock and roll” to look? Like if 80s Nikki Sixxxxxxxxxx saw himself looking like that now he would probably set himself on fire to prevent that tragedy. Then again, maybe not. I mean, they were all kinda gay.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Billy_the_Exterminator_2.jpg

    • Void Dweller

      That shitty cowboy is the worst part, just ask Bret Michaels.

      • Disgustache

        Hey dude, every rose has it’s thorn.

        • Void Dweller

          You make a good point.

    • Guppusmaximus

      You do realize that the gay community started the leather w/ spikes trend,right?!

      • Disgustache

        I do realize that, but I don’t get why all the straight guys think it looks so cool.

        • Void Dweller

          Rob Halford.

        • Guppusmaximus

          I don’t necessarily care to wear spiked shit nowadays but I can’t tell you why I thought it was cool as fuck back then. When I saw that full set of spikes that Bruce Dickinson wore on his forearm, I was sold. Of course, I never had the money to own such lavish accessories. My claim to fame was a denim vest w/ back patch of South of Heaven. #goodtimes

          • Disgustache

            All I ever got to own was a studded belt, and then I threw it out when I kept falling on my skateboard and it was ripping all my shirts up. Speaking of vests, this is what I’m scoping on picking up. Maybe a little cheesy, but god damn do I want one.

            http://warriorsmovie.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/production01-728×542.jpg

          • Guppusmaximus

            I would’ve given up skateboarding before giving up the belt…smirk. If you truly have an afro then that warriors vest is perfect for you:)

    • Those who obsess over the way other people dress: perhaps there’s an even more derogatory word for them than “gay.”

      • Disgustache

        I think I just got told, and now I’m sitting here feeling really stupid.

    • JW(E)G

      I’m not sure Billy the Exterminator is indicative of 80’s hair metal style not going away, so much as he needed a pseudo-‘tough guy’ gimmick so that A&E would think he was the second coming of Dog the Bounty Hunter and order multiple seasons without even thinking about it…

  • Malted Hate

    Part 3 is the best one, I think.
    Part 2 is the one I like the less out of all 3. Might need to re-watch it.

    Curious what scene will be the focus of the new movie.
    By the way, I first heard about this on the recent Spheeris WTF interview, which was pretty damn interesting!

  • This is the only man anyone ever needs to date:

  • Disgustache

    Dude that Chris Holmes interview was heavy. So much hurt, so much joy. Always living on the extreme. Too fucking much.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsoLb-E7oy8

  • Waynecro

    I thought that Chris Holmes scene was hilarious until I quit drinking.

    • Nicki Minaj’s Cannibal Diaper

      Even at my worst, I would’ve stood in awe of how much that idiot drank. And that’s say ALOT!

      • Waynecro

        I drank so much that my pancreas gave out, which gave me diabetes. Sometimes I still miss whiskey and malt liquor. On the plus side, quitting drinking saved me so much money I was able to buy a house.

  • Max

    The linked article is quite interesting. I didn’t know she was going to direct Spinal Tap at one point.

    A decent director who worked hard to achieve what she has right from the get-go.

  • Nicki Minaj’s Cannibal Diaper

    Fast forward to 2015. The spokesman for Dimitri vodka has now become the spokesman for Stormfront and Dentu-Grip. There’s no fucking way on Earth this asshole is still sober like he claims.

    http://www.metalinsider.net/site/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/holmes.png

  • pïgchop™

    Ah, the 1980’s. So many hopes and dreams shattered, So many people ended up sucking cocks and nothing more.