Max’s End-of-Year Recommended Albums List (Presented by Way of a Lengthy Treatise About the Actual Listening)

This year I made a resolution to dive into more new music than ever – by clicking on nearly every link on every This Toilet Tuesday playlist for the year. Every week.

“Nearly” is the operative word. It didn’t take long before I started eliminating auditions from certain categories in order to unburden the workload. (When wading through anywhere between 40 and 70 releases a week, you’ll start cutting corners. I know that’s a typical week of metal fandom for some of you kids. For me, it’s not.)

Anything which was listed but not linked on the TovH page, I didn’t bother to go looking for elsewhere. Anything labeled “lolbuttz” I also ignored, confident of TovH’s dismissal. Nor did I click on anything earmarked as a “Preview”. I figured if I was going to give a band a chance, they may as well give me a full song. Besides, they’d presumably reappear in the listings when the record actually was released.

Anything labeled Power Metal, Symphonic Metal, Folk Metal or Metalcore I soon started ignoring too – finding favour with anything from those genres has always been such a remote exception to the rule for me that I knew the probability of missing out on a gem from any of them was small enough to justify knee-jerk dismissal.

Honestly, I also could have ruled out grindcore, doom metal, speed metal, gothic metal, stoner rock, symphonic black metal, thrash, crossover, hardcore, djent, deathcore, brutal/slam, and industrial. Not necessarily because I hate those genres – I mainly don’t – but simply because they’ve never been central to my tastes. They’re all exceptions to the rule in my record collection. Doing that, though, would undoubtedly have omitted a few worthy contenders.

Right now you’re probably thinking what I soon noticed: How narrow my preferences in metal really are. I hadn’t consciously realized it until embarking upon this exercise. My tastes run pretty firmly to post-rock/metal, precious little sludge, some melodeath, tech-death, “regular” death metal/OSDM, non-symphonic black metal, some prog-metal…and that’s really about it. But it certainly speaks to how valuable genre-categorization can be for the time-poor, income-limited music consumer; despite the protestations of artists. Sub-genres, I’ve found, are by no means a guarantor that you’ll like something. But they’re a remarkably reliable indicator that you probably won’t.

Even allowing for that much exemption, I can confidently claim that each week I listened to upwards of 30-60 new releases, even if only momentarily. Some nights, it was a real slog. I usually got through an entire Tuesday list in one sitting while reading news articles; but on the numerically heavier weeks I had to tackle it in installments.

I got very behind. At one stage – not in the mood for music, busy/tired from work or more interested in giving follow-up investigations to discoveries that I actually LIKED – I was about two-and-a-half months behind on my Toilet Tuesday listening schedule. Catching up on it all was hard.

Another thing I learnt, I’ve got to say, is that there is a shit-ton of quite bad metal getting released globally on a weekly basis. Sorry, but there is. Along with the realization about how narrow my tastes within metal are, the fact that I found 90%+ of it to be mediocre had me questioning my “metalhead” status. Only the fact that my record collection itself is 95% metal already prevented me from relinquishing my badge.

Moreover, my definition of “bad” isn’t a fair one – I got pretty fussy and jaded. I developed a severe allergy to mild cheesiness, indifferent riffs, “unsuitable” production values, boring intros (though I did have to make an exemption for styles like doom or sludge that take a while to get going), embarrassing vocal delivery, fruity keyboards (always a contentious instrument in metal for me), and even lack of volume or sonic clarity compared to other releases. Judgment got quite arbitrary, I must say.

Yes – there were plentiful occasions where I wouldn’t get through more than a bar or two before calling “Next!” The overwhelming majority of bands didn’t get more than one song’s worth of my attention, if that. No matter how bad any given artist may be, I must admit I wasn’t doing any of them justice in terms of attention paid. Many were the occasions I closed the tab on the sort of death metal song which I would have gladly spent money on in younger, more impressionable times.

In my defence, let’s contextualize: Assuming This Toilet Tuesday encompasses nearly all of the heavy metal records released worldwide weekly, and assuming it was an average of forty releases per week (which at a glance it seemed to be), every week, that means we’re on the receiving end of roughly 2,100 new releases per year; or about six every day. (Some online sources I’ve read suggest it might be double that. I believe them.)

This is an outpouring of recorded music surely unprecedented in history. Assuming other genres of popular music are as prolific as ours, I’ll bet there’s more music than TV and radio commercials getting produced annually nowadays.

With that in mind, I don’t think I or anybody else need apologize for being very selective about what we’ll even pay attention to, let alone buy. Too much 400 Hz on the snare drum? FAIL. 8-string guitars? NEVER MORE THAN SEVEN. Readable logo? IMPACT FONT = IMPACT FLUSH.

Okay, granted, dismissing a band after the intro riff on the first song of one of their records isn’t exactly giving me a good idea of their artistic scope or songwriting capabilities. For all I know, the rest of the album might be Sergeant fucking Pepper 2.0. But like you, I’ve listened to a lot of metal records in my time, and what I also know is this:

1) The first proper song on an album – or the shortest, which I sometimes went for instead – is, invariably, one of the better ones. So if you didn’t like that, you probably won’t like the rest.

2) Records of any genre which actually get better as they go aren’t unheard of (they’re what we call the classics); but they are very, very rare.

3) The production values and instrumental arrangements on a metal album seldom change throughout the course of that album; so if it bothers you that the drums aren’t loud enough or the vocalist is annoying within the first minute of listening, chances are you’re still gonna be bothered 45 minutes later, should you persist.

In theoretical probability, with this much music being released, each of us should be able to unearth at least one record which corresponds optimally to our personal tastes on any and all criteria by which we might choose to favour it: Genre, tempo, melodic scale, production techniques, song duration, the vocalist’s voice, musicianship level, amount of distortion on the guitars, styles of riffs played, lyrics, cover art, the typesetting on the liner notes, etc. etc. etc. We should permit ourselves to be as insanely picky as we like – especially if we’re expected to wade through literally thousands of songs before finding that perfect album.

The reality, of course, is that bands aren’t perfect, and nor are we the perfect listeners. No single record can ever be 100% what the doctor ordered for any of us; and I’d hate for that to occur: Does anybody want to spend the rest of their life only listening to one album because nothing else measures up?

Nevertheless, it squares my dismissiveness into perspective: I just don’t have the time for anything less than very good. If it isn’t grabbing me, it ain’t; and there’s probably something else out there that will. NEXT.

I won’t be undertaking a regime like this next year; glad as I am to have tried it once. I’ve discovered some great stuff I otherwise wouldn’t have; but I’ve concluded it’s probably not worth the investment in time. In 2016 I’ll just pay attention to whatever various “gatekeeper” websites (basically this one, Metalsucks and Invisible Oranges) are telling me to and make my judgments from that shortlist. It’ll be interesting to see if I end up with a similar strike rate of stuff I like despite drawing from a narrower and more select pool. Because one thing I have to admit is this: When you look at my list below, and consider how much relatively high-profile stuff I’ve nominated, you’d be forgiven for wondering how different my list would really be if I’d just stuck to investigating what “higher-profile” people had suggested. (Like yourselves for example – in my universe, that’s “high profile.”)

In the meantime, for what it’s worth, here’s an end-of-year round-up, counted down, for anybody reading who might have mistaken me for some sort of authoritative taste-maker. If you click on any of this and find something to your fancy you weren’t aware of, there’s no need to thank me; but do so in the comments section anyway!

 

13) DISRUPTED (Sweden) – Morbid Death

Memento Mori Records; Old-School Death Metal

This mightn’t be a wheel-reinventing ground-breaker; nor even a fabulous record in its own right. But there will NEVER be an end to the sound and style that Entombed wrought (just like there’ll never be an end to the Disclones), and I’ll always have a soft spot for those carrying the tattered HM-2 flag.

Of all the HM-2 clones I’ve heard this year, Disrupted is definitely the cream of the crop. The vocalist sounds like a more monotone LG Petrov zombie (that’s a compliment); the band grinds away organically on their singular course at skank pace, firing Like An Ever-Flowing Stream riffs to match, and…well, what more do you need? Nor do the band detract from their focus with traces of death’n’roll, as many of these acts unfortunately do. Keep the fuckin’ Blue Wolverine off the Left Hand fuckin’ Path!

If you only listen to one song, make it the immortally-titled “Buried in Bowels.”

 

12) TRIALS (United States o’ America) – This Ruined World

Independently released; Neo-Thrash

I perceive this one as falling under a neo-thrash / groove-metal approach – the sort of record that easily could have been made in the ‘90s but for some reason never was; at least with such a relatively organic and dry production job by the standards of that style. But if you want any further description, I can do no better than to quote blogger Angry Metal Guy’s endorsement on the Bandcamp page:

“This Ruined World is an excellent record. The songs on here are razor sharp, tightly edited, written to be dense, technical, and immense—and it’s the balance Trials strikes between chugging intensity, harmony, dissonance and a fine understanding of dynamics in all the right places which makes this album stand out. Trials are unapologetically interested in cutting the bullshit and writing great songs.”

That’s pretty much it. It does take a bit to grow on you songwriting-wise, but I fell in love with the guitar sound instantly. I’m struggling for more ways to describe it…I did hear some occasional similarities with O.G. neo-thrash luminaries The Haunted, although I think I much prefer this.

If you only try one song, make it the relatively un-thrashy, partial blast-fest “Digging My Own Grave.” And then, if you do like that, give any other song a chance; because there’s quite a bit of compositional variety here. (I mean, the song after that even sounds a bit like Gorjira in parts.)

 

11) KRALLICE (U.S and A) – Ygg Huur

Independently released; Progressive Black Metal

Krallice is a band I’ve been meaning to devote attention to for some time now, and Ygg Huur seems as good a place to start as any.

A couple of years ago I could have said the same thing about Gorguts – the initially generic Roadrunner/Morrisound act from Canada who went on to assume the deserved mantle of tech-death godfathers. By the time I began paying attention to them, they’d released Colored Sands, which is a record I still haven’t gotten sick of two years later and which I easily regard as my favourite extreme metal release of the last decade; perhaps longer.

I bring this up because being so relatively green to both acts – and considering Colin Marston’s pivotal place both within his own band and with Gorguts‘s record as engineer-producer and bassist – Ygg Huur really strikes me as the “sequel” to Colored Sands. And if you liked Colored Sands, that’s hardly going to be a bad thing, is it?

I don’t think it’s as spectacular as that; but it’s got the same remarkably-easy-to-digest-despite-the-complexity feel to it. It also has the same sound, but perhaps a bit less polished and more live. Actually, that’s a mark down in my book because the one thing lacking from Colored Sands for me was the slightly crisper production I thought it required.

Not that it was a bad production job; and nor is this: Marston seems to have gone for what sounds like a band recorded in real-time using ambient room mics instead of a close-mic’ed, individually multi-tracked method. I could be totally mistaken about this but that’s my impression. Despite this, you can always discern exactly what each musician is doing; which is important when there’s barely a single moment on the album when the guitarists are playing the same line. So I call that a win.

If you only listen to one song, make it “Wastes of Ocean.”

 

10) RETALIATORY MEASURES (Finland) – Levels

Independently released (I think?); Death Metal.

(Primarily) mid-paced death metal, Retaliatory Measures are one of those bands who invest all their capital in the power of their riffs as a selling point. Fair enough, too – because there isn’t really a single bad riff on this mini-album. The guitars are very front-and-centre in their sound; meaning that the drums are mixed quite a little low. But it’s still a great listen, with skillful thrashing and some nice counterpoint melody. This is a band who deserve to be better-known than they are.

If you only try one song, make it: “Perdition” and wait for that counterpoint chorus!

 

9) BEATEN TO DEATH (Sweden) – Unplugged

Mas-Kina Records; Grindcore

From Enslavement to Obliteration by Napalm Death. World Downfall by Terrorizer. And Extreme Conditions Demand Extreme Responses by Brutal Truth. These are the three grindcore records that have prevented me from ever much investigating the genre further. Why bother when you’ve got this holy trinity at your beck and call?

Well, in Beaten to Death’s Unplugged, I’ve found something that just may well put an end to my dogmatism on that score. It’s a grindcore record unmistakably in its ethos; but it’s one utterly unlike any of those in its music. It has emotive melody, progressiveness, dynamics, and even a dialed-back, Fender Telecaster-ish guitar tone that would be more at home on an indie rock or emocore (as in Fugazi, not some modern permutation of the term) outing than on an extreme metal album. By fuck does it work, though. I’d hate for grindcore to sound like this all the time, but we can definitely use a grind band like Beaten to Death.

If you only listen to one song, make it “End of an Error”.

 

8) DEAFHEAVEN (United States o’ America) – New Bermuda

ANTI-Records; Blackgaze

Yeah, I’m one of those who thinks Deafheaven have musical merit. Coming from somebody who pretty much gave up on black metal after the original early-mid ‘90s renaissance, I genuinely think Deafheaven are one of the more interesting things to happen, even if I’ll agree that they’re not strictly bringing anything new to it. Well, nothing new that couldn’t be previously imagined, anyway: For anybody who grew up on a diet of grungy, indie fare like Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr and Swervedriver before discovering metal, the crossover of black metal and shoegaze was a long time coming, thanks to some musicological similarities.

If that’s over-thinking it too much for you, try the simpler justifications: 1) Based upon what I’ve read of him, Euronymous – already evolving into a black metal contrarian by the time he was killed – probably would have liked Deafheaven, had they existed in his day; pink album covers and all. 2) If these guys looked like Immortal instead of extras from Girls, so would the tr00hordes; who in my zine-reading experience usually have remarkably low standards about what constitutes “good” black metal provided there are sufficient bullets, axes, pine trees and invisible oranges somewhere on the packaging.

I’ve probably raved too much to convince anybody. All I know is that despite some filler, it’s got everything I liked about Sunbather, with a bit less of what I didn’t, plus a few new tricks. The drumming has really improved, for example. Can’t argue.

One song only? Try “Gifts For the Earth.”

 

7) SECTORIAL (Ukraine) – We Are the Titan’s Rising Ashes

Noizr Records; Black Metal (ish)

Fuck knows what the title of this album is supposed to mean; and for that matter, fuck knows how Encylopedia Metallium’s categorization of “thrash/grindcore” is supposed to accurately portray what these guys are doing unless they’ve done a massive bandwagon-jump subsequent to being archived there. On the basis of the guitar tone, riffage, Slavic fury, and occasional use of folky-type elements, it sounds pretty black metal to me (though I get less sure about that the more I listen).

Well, if it was a bandwagon-jump, they did themselves a favour. Because although it doesn’t hurt that they can play their asses off like furious beasts with a precision mastery that any death metal band would be proud to boast, they have that unmistakable Oskerei-running, wolf-howling backdrop vibe we all know from the better works of Burzum or Bathory (but in music far more advanced).

Unfortunately there’s a fair bit of cheese dialed in, too. Sectorial make frequent use of Jew’s harp and recorder (or perhaps flute) which can occasionally put them into hey-nonny-no Stilton territory. Listening to the beginning of single/video “Tree Eater”, you’d think you were in for a bout of some ghastly, “world music”-tinged power-/folk-metal hybrid onslaught; and in fact you pretty much are. If that was the first song I heard from these guys I would’ve rejected them out of hand. Even initially exposed to more favourable parts of the album, I maintain that some of the material does get a bit Borat-metal in places.

But when they’re good, Sectorial are frankly world-class. If you only listen to one song, make it “Autumn Silence is Covered With Ice.”

 

6) HATE ETERNAL (United States o’ America) – Infernus

Season of Mist Records; Death Metal

There are plenty of death metal fans who can’t stand Hate Eternal, hearing only a riff-salad blast churn that can make it difficult to get through a single song, let alone an album. Well, that was certainly my experience with Fury and the Flames, which I couldn’t get into at all. I sit on the fence with I, Monarch, which has some great stuff but is also not a record I can often overcome in one sitting.

But that’s not a problem with Infernus. It’s just as fast and bludgeoning as any of their earlier efforts, but something about the songwriting approach this time has made it a lot easier to get into, and the production job – though fairly typical of Rutan’s sound; he’s always had a pretty cloudy signature guitar tone – has also somehow assisted in providing a coherence that Hate Eternal often lacked. Put it this way: there’s a difference between sounding heavy and sounding angry. This time, Hate Eternal have generally managed both instead of just the former. And there’s at least as much variety on this as on any earlier effort. You’ll even have some of the songs stuck in your head afterwards, which, for this band, is breaking new ground indeed. I’d really look forward to seeing some of this stuff live.

It’s funny, though: I’ve never heard a Hate Eternal album that got the sequencing to my liking. They always seem to start with a song that’s too full-on and presumptuous to be an opener; usually followed immediately or soon after by a song that would have served perfectly. And there’s usually a potential spectacular closer buried somewhere in the middle. Whatever.

If you only try one song – just for something different, make it the instrumental “Chaos Theory.”

 

5) KLONE (France) – Here Comes the Sun

Pelagic Records; Rock.

I’d hesitate to class this as metal or even hard rock. They once may have been, but they’ve since moved in a softer, slightly alternative direction. Which isn’t a problem as long as you write good songs, which they are capable of doing.

I only like five of the ten offered here, but those five are real ear-worms, and made the CD enough worth buying for me. Klone’s vocalist has a rather similar voice to Kurt Cobain’s, which does deter some people; although I can’t honestly see why when the music is so different to Nirvana’s. Impeccably played and lush, Here Comes the Sun also features one of those rare but wonderful production jobs where copious amounts of reverb don’t make the band sound less crisp or more distant.

If you only try one song, make it “Gone Up in Flames.”

 

4) THE ORDER OF APOLLYON (France) – The Sword and the Dagger

Listenable Records; Death Metal

Whoa. Imagine Morbid Angel with a darker, more brooding vibe, more linear songwriting, less diversion, and a heightened melodic sensibility which leans toward Voices-like blackened death (or perhaps even Misery Index); capped off with a vocalist who sounds like pre-Turn Loose the Swans Aaron Stainthorpe of My Dying Bride and you’re kind of there with these guys. (Or you could do yourself a favour and listen rather than going by my half-assed descriptions.)

The clean production perhaps is a little ordinary; there’s a real hint of Superior Drummer and Axe-FX (I shouldn’t make such bald assumptions in an age where there is no real way of determining the circumstances of an album’s recording just by listening to it). But such sterility is quickly accepted when the strength of the songwriting and very well-balanced orchestration/mixing is taken into account. Although there are a few standard death metal tracks offered, there is also some real stand-out material: The program doesn’t let up from tracks 3 through 9; whether each is a total blaster or a mid-paced workout (or both). What I was praising in the development of Hate Eternal‘s approach above, this band has in spades, with nearly equal the brutality.

If you only listen to one song, make it “Hold Not My Peace, O God of My Praise.”

 

3) IZAH (Netherlands) – Sistere

Nordvis Records; Sludge Metal, perhaps – a bit wide in scope to be given a single category, really.

“Bringers of Doom” said the strapline – No fucking shit! This 70-minute, 4-track opus is monstrous. To me (and others here on the Toilet), it somehow wraps traces of black metal, indie rock and perhaps even industrial(ish) into a death-doom marathon which is surprisingly listenable from start to finish considering the attention demanded. Pretty bleak stuff, but also very passionate. The last, half-hour song is a prolonged ordeal – and I mean that in a good way – wringing out every last drop of your devotion. After several listens I did eventually start omitting the third song, which still left me with an hour-long album.

If you only try one song, make it “Indefinite Instinct.” BUT – don’t click away until you’ve finished the whole thing!

 

2) ARMAGEDDON (Sweden) – Captivity in Devourment

Listenable Records; Melodeath

I won’t say too much about this one since we’ve dealt with it extensively on TovH earlier in the year (justifiably), but yeah – among the more compelling of melodeath records that gets released nowadays. Kicks the SHIT out of parent act Archenemy.

If you only try one song, make it “The Watcher.”

 

And my Album of the Year is…

 

1) FRANK HERBERT (United States o’ America) – Dune

Gollancz Publishing; Science Fiction.

While studying Shakespeare’s Othello, my English teacher once taught us that in 19th century European theatre,  audiences – caught up either in the Bard’s timeless prose or the emotive action before them – were often moved to heckle the actor playing the moor with heartfelt warnings of Iago’s treachery: “Don’t listen to him, Othello! He’s lying! She loves you!” – even though, of course, they all knew the outcome of this canonical tragedy.

Classic works of narrative art sort of have that effect on people sometimes. It occasionally happens to me when I watch Episode IV – A New Hope. I’ve seen that film literally scores of times over my life, and just occasionally I’ll still catch myself wondering if perhaps Obi-Wan will be triumphant against Vader after all, so that he could join the others on Yavin and get involved with the Alliance again.

But it happens to me most vividly when I read the sci-fi masterpiece that is Frank Herbert’s Dune. Every time I read it, I encounter a scrap of dialogue or scene description that I’d forgotten about, which makes it seem as though a slightly different version of the story is being told to me; and thereby holding out the possibility of an alternative outcome – one where Duke Leto survives the treachery of his physician, or where the evil old Baron Harkonnen learns that Muad D’ib is actually his grandson. Quite how it does this to me is a difficult process to describe, but it does.

To borrow a quote you’ve no doubt encountered, writing about music is like dancing about architecture. And so perhaps it follows that thinking about metal is like living in a sci-fi adventure – one populated by beings with extraordinary powers acting out a labyrinthine, wheels-within-wheels plot. The best heavy metal albums, by the best metal bands, share something – however obtusely – with the masters of storytelling like Tolkein or Frank Herbert: The complete visualization of an entire world, with its own peoples, cultures, history and implications. A world you fully immerse yourself in as easily as leaving this one behind, if only for a brief time. The more you look into it, the more you discover; for the rest of your life.

That’s why Frank Herbert’s astonishing novel Dune is this year – as it is every year – one of my favourite metal albums. Available in paperback from any reputable bookstore, or try the library. Play it loud.

 

  • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

    If Deafheaven looked like Immortal I still wouldn’t like them. Immortal is the goofiest band of the whole Norwegian scene.

    • CyberneticOrganism

      Whatever do you mean

      http://i.imgur.com/GhSX2.gif

    • Boss the Damage Case Ross

      That’s why i enjoy Inmortal so much.

    • ┼yree

      Some early Immortal is pretty rad… But, I honestly find that band boring, plus I can’t stand the vocals and the goofiness either. Same goes for Inquisition. Sue me and burn me; mabey even carve me up and and suck my guts.

      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        Yeah, I agree. The first two are great, and At the Heart of Winter has some killer riffs (but the pics in the booklet need to be burned). I honestly have no clue why so many people like them compared to other Norwegian bands or other black metal bands in general.

        • ┼yree
          • CyberneticOrganism

            Aubrey Plaza sleeps on a mountain of hate.

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            I think Hate Mountain is a stone’s throw away from Fuck Mountain.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Hahaha! Best comment of the day!

        • PostBlackenedWhaleGaze

          That entire album is build on a mountain of riffs.

      • RJA

        My love for Immortal and Inquisition is what tears us apart Tyree.
        I saw Hell’s has copies of the Mystifier records – I believe I will have to pick those up.

      • Machine That Yells At Farts

        The vocals sound exactly like Popeye.

    • Max

      Touche.

    • Salvador Dalí Lama

      One thing I’ve learned from Deathspell Omega is that black metal is best played from the shadows. No promo pics, no band performance videos, no interviews; just the music. Makes it feel much more imposing musically. No human face bogging down the atmosphere and mystique.

      Only exception might be Terra Tenebrosa who uses creepy masks, but they are a bit different than black metal.

      • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

        Upvote for Deathspell Omega. They’re probably my #1 go-to black metal band.

      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        I can agree with that to some degree.

      • Machine That Yells At Farts

        If their side project is any indicator, you’ll probably see their faces on a mug shot after getting busted for kiddie porn. I actually liked them up until I found out about that side project.

        • Salvador Dalí Lama

          What is the side project?

          • Machine That Yells At Farts

            Amber 13, if I remember correctly. Their whole project about pedophilia.

          • Salvador Dalí Lama

            I was only aware of Creamface.

    • Machine That Yells At Farts

      I dunno, Carpathian Forest definitely gives them a run for their money.

      http://wallpaper.metalship.org/images/carpathian-forest35.jpg

      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        True.

  • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

    Late 2015 entry, came out on cunting christmas. Degial from Sweden.

    https://degial.bandcamp.com/album/savage-mutiny

    • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

      “cunting christmas” you say?

      http://imgur.com/gallery/SP4E9kQ

      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        I heard about that. Too funny.

      • CyberneticOrganism

        *bails that guy out of jail*

      • more beer

        Well that’s what happens. When someone fucks with the classics.

        • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

          none shall pass!

          • more beer

            Hahaha!!! I only regret I can’t upvote that more.

    • I’m listening to this right now. Good shit, will buy.

  • Sick write up Max. You have a way with words that makes me want to keep reading. Fine work.

    GL

  • Eliza

    The more I listened to the IZAH song you linked the more I liked it, until I came to love it.

    • Max

      Ha ha! SCORE.

      • Eliza

        Huh?

        • Max

          Sorry. I was assuming you listened to it on my recommendation. That’s what I meant by having “scored”; as in – “Yay, I converted somebody.”

          • Eliza

            Oh, I get it. I did listen to the recommended song in its entirety. I also listened to other songs from this band and I enjoy them greatly.

          • Max

            It really was a toss-up as to whether I preferred Armageddon over Izah.

          • Eliza

            I, personally, like Izah more, but it’s your list. And I don’t dislike Armageddon either, I think they’re pretty good.

          • Zeke

            Armageddon is definitely NOT my style at all, but I have to admit that the main riff in the song papa joe posted on ROTW a few weeks got majorly stuck in my head and I had to grab my guitar and figure it out. I guess good songwriting is good songwriting

          • Max

            Ain’t that the truth?

          • Maik Beninton™

            I listened to every linked song except for Deafheaven, they already are on my list. I liked them all except for Krallice, it might be just the mood.

          • Max

            Krallice is certainly an acquired taste. Cheers for listening to most of them!

  • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

    Am I the only one who doesn’t really ‘get’ Hate Eternal? I mean, I don’t think their awful, but tons of people rave about them and I just don’t see what’s so damn good (and unique) about them.

    • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

      Very boring live. Just a blastfest.

      • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

        That’s exactly my opinion on them as well. I don’t think they’re unlistenable, but after a few songs I’ve mostly heard it all and it becomes almost a chore to sit through the rest of one of their albums. Never feel the need to revisit anything of them either.

      • ┼yree

        The drumming is the only thing about Hate Eternal that blows me away really.

        • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

          Agreed.

          • ┼yree

            Rutan needs to get Ripping Corpse back together. End of story.

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            No shit dude!

        • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

          Yeah the drumming is insane. I’ll give ’em that.

        • CyberneticOrganism

          Is that Derek Roddy still? Roddy is the man.

    • Eliza

      I think they’re fine. Nothing more, nothing less.

    • Max

      There’s no shame in not “getting” them. Nobody’s going to pretend they’re the be-all and end-all of death metal; certainly not me.

      I actually feel that way about a lot of the modern top-tier death metal bands, like say Nile. They’re all noteworthy; but you can usually find something better if you look.

      • Paddlin’ Rites ov Beargod

        This is the first HE album I don’t think is nearly ruined by the production. Rutan should never be allowed behind the mixing table.
        I haven’t actually listened to this in full, because HE tends to bore me -Panzer Division Marduk manages to keep up interest throughout (even though it’s overrates) with similar means and structure, but HE constantly fails at it.

        I only own King of Kings, and I want to like it – ruffs are there and the length isn’t overbearing – but you have to make a conscious effort to hear the riffs. And I think the fact that you can just let it slide through you at times (thanks to the poor indiscernible oroduction) might actually be why it doesn’t feel too long – despite being nothing but blasting.

        • Sir Tapir The Based

          I agree, the oroduction is indiscernible. But what about the production?

          • Paddlin’ Rites ov Beargod

            That’s only slightly muddy.
            I’ve never been too bothered by it, honestly.

          • Max

            I can’t stand a record that’s been badly-oroduced.

        • Zeke

          I just posted almost the exact same thing right above this. I don’t get it because he’s a guitarist. I’ve never heard of a guitarist that mixes the guitars too low

      • Zeke

        what do you think of this hate eternal song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNHQiXGz_dI
        I think it’s pretty great except for the ever-present problem of the guitars being too low in the mix. though i’ll admit the song from the new album that you linked to doesn’t seem to have that problem

        • Max

          This the first time I’ve heard this song in a number of years; I sent this album to the pawnbroker. You’re right about the guitars being too low in the mix to make out alot of the riffs. Actually, it’s not necessarily a problem of level; it’s a problem of definition (EQ). But his guitars have always sounded like that. I’d say it’s his actual rig rather than the way he’s captured it with microphones. He really needs to re-think his tone, in my opinion.

          • Zeke

            Interesting thought. Usually death metal guitarists that lack definition have a super scooped tone; but rutan’s tone isn’t particularly scooped so I’m not sure what’s causing the lack of definition. Domination and gateways don’t have that problem, but maybe trey played all the rhythm guitars on those albums

          • Max

            Oh, I’m sure Trey would have.

            Guitar tone is the darndest thing. Amount of distortion aside, definition or lack thereof is usually just down to the voicing of individual cabinet/combo models. Some are cloudy, some aren’t. Scooping or EQ very often doesn’t even factor into it. Some amps just sound less-than-desirable no matter how you adjust them.

            I’ve got a Trace-Elliot combo which has two distortion channels, and it sounds good pretty much with the guitar just going straight into it and no pedals in between. I once A-B’ed it with a Laney combo, and I just could not get as good a sound out of the Laney no matter what I did to its controls. I’ve done the same thing with Marshall Valvestates. That was a very popular amp with all the Scott Burns-produced acts, but I couldn’t get what I wanted out of that, either.

  • CyberneticOrganism

    “provided there are sufficient bullets, axes, pine trees and invisible oranges somewhere on the packaging.”

    Nice. FYI I just finished Dune Messiah last night and I already want to jump back into reading those first two books over.

    • King Shit of Fuck Mountain
    • PostBlackenedWhaleGaze

      I just bought Dune a few weeks ago, reading it for the first time. It. Is. Awesome.

      • CyberneticOrganism

        Yes, yes it is. It is all the awesome. The follow-up is just as many awesomes.

      • Boss the Damage Case Ross

        Hell yes!

      • KJM, Shake Zula

        I always tap out in the middle of the 6th book.

        • #wrestlingreference

          NICE

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            That’s really the only wrestling jargon I use unless I’m talking about politics. : )

  • Sir Tapir The Based

    Only band we have in common is Izah. It is a very good.

    • Pagliacci is Kvlt

      Same here.

    • How ya been, bud?? It has been awhile.

      • Sir Tapir The Based

        Doin’ pretty decent. Nothing special. You?
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB8wyq80qIA

        • Been good. Ready to get through the “holidays” and get back on a better schedule. And longer days with light. lol

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            We’re FUCKING FINALLY getting some colder weather. Thank Jehova/Ganesha/Allah/Lucifer/Papa Legba.

          • I could use some colder weather. My seeds in the garage need cooler weather for stratification.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            Seeds. Nudge nudge wink wink say no more.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            Oh. I though they were some of those KJM approved seeds.

          • No sir. I do not smoke.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            You inject then?

          • ? No. I do not do any drugs. Alcohol only.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            Oh. I thought you had to do some kind of drugs since you liked the last In Flames album.

          • This is a comeback where I say “that was a great comeback”.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            You forgot to thank Cthulhu.

          • CyberneticOrganism

            … and Satan

        • Dubs

          I saw you at the zoo.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            Those are my cousins. They always want to go bowling.

          • This is quite possibly the funniest comment uttered in internet history.

  • ┼yree

    Words.

    • Dave Vincent’s Perm

      That go unspoken

    • Max

      Are worth a thousand pictures.

  • Boss the Damage Case Ross

    DUUUUUUUUUUNE!!! The only book I’ve read more than twice.

    Excellent write up, Max. I got into bandcamp a few months ago and i feel the same sentiments as you. There is a lot of new, and older that is new to me, music out there and its hard to listen to it all. A song has to amaze me before I purchase an album. Granted, there are some questionable purchases I’ve made, but it’s all part of the learning process. I definitely can get behind your genre stipulations, that’s how i can wade through This Toilet Tuesday without drowning and find music I like on Bandcamp. The idea of listening to it all boggles my mind and you are a better man than me to have tried it. I will be giving your list a listening to though and take no offense if I only get a song or two into it, not that you’d know anyways.

    Thanks Max!

    • Paddlin’ Rites ov Beargod

      >Tfw when people say they don’t read books again and again, and again.
      And again.

      • Boss the Damage Case Ross

        I have reread books before, but Dune has been read more than twice. LOTR as well, now that i think about it more.

        • Paddlin’ Rites ov Beargod

          ‘Kay, guess I’m a nerd and stuff then. With what reading best books in multiple languages and as often as I can and shit.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            I have no problem with that! Just personally I’d like to read new, to me, books when i can.

          • Paddlin’ Rites ov Beargod

            I’m surrounded by non-readers mostly, so I reckoned other people consumed literacy like I.

            Slowly starting to seem like no one does.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Ah, understandable. Not all of us can be like the mighty Beargod.

          • Dubs

            I honestly don’t re-read books often, though I tend to read related media (articles/bogs/wikis). I’m more in the “consume new literature” camp.

          • Paddlin’ Rites ov Beargod

            It seems that I go in cycles, some years I read a lot of new books, and others only a few

            The best I, however, always read many times – in a way, I think I consume literature much like music.
            Especially longer series’
            There’s only like two really good books I’ve never re-read.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            I usually reread when something happens to reinvigorate my passion/interest in a book, like a movie adaptation coming out. Sometimes it doesn’t take much, I reread Dune when Southern Lord rereleased Dopesmoker and i saw Arik Roper’s amazing artwork.

            https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hIw7oeZKpZc/maxresdefault.jpg

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            A lot of books I read are of this ilk (but that has to do with the fact that organized crime is one of my weird fascinations):

          • Are you familar with Phil Carlo? His books on The Iceman and The Butcher are great. Really good writer, you can flip pages on those books so fast because they are fascinating reads.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            Oh yeah absolutely. I’ve read both books. Another good one’s Jerry Capeci’s Murder Machine (about the Demeo crew in NYC).

          • Max
          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            I’ve actually read that book as well hahaha. Where he infiltrates in several biker gangs and the Triads in Vancouver.

      • Haha, you fuckin nerds.
        Readin’ books n’ shit.

        • Boss the Damage Case Ross

          That’s right!

    • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

      This is probably my most read book.

      • Boss the Damage Case Ross

        I agree with you the more I read your comments, oh King of NY!

        • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

          Glad to know!

      • I own this but I only got halfway through. I had trouble following the dialogue and couldn’t tell who was speaking to who. I think I need to start over.

        • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

          Yeah it’s a difficult book to get into. McCarthy’s writing style, especially in this one, isn’t easy to follow at all. The best thing is to handle this book like a David Lynch movie (such as Lost Highway for instance). Don’t try to look to deep into it. Let the atmosphere and the weird chills do their trick.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Oh shit, i didn’t see your attached image earlier. I though you were talking about Dune and your McCarthy statement threw me way off. I haven’t read Blood Meridian, but i will check it out.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            The statement about agreeing with you still remains though!

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            Hahaha no problem. Be sure to check that book out. It may not be for everyone, but it has a different effect on different people. You might get something out of it.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Right on, will do

          • Yeah, I’m probably going to start over. I got it because I love No Country For Old Men (movie) and everybody raves about Blood Meridian.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            Blood Meridian is actually a bit of a different beast from McCarthy’s other work. No Country For Old Men and The Road are far more accessible than for instance Child of God is. And Child of God in turn is easier to grasp than Blood Meridian is.
            Blood Meridian is definitely the strangest, but also the most evocative book he has written. Some people (like me) think it’s a masterpiece, others find it boring. Both opinions are understandable.

          • Did you see the movie The Counselor that he wrote the screenplay for? That was not to well received probably because it was confusing and lacked a Hollywood ending. I’ve watched it multiple times and it gets better with each view.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            I actually liked that movie.

      • Vladimir Poutine

        One of my all time favorites. So brutal. The Judge’s character has been a source of fascination for years.

        • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

          One of the greatest characters in the history of
          fiction. His presence alone makes reading the book worthwhile.

          • Vladimir Poutine

            Agree wholeheartedly

  • Capra Hircus Hubertus

    Amazing article Max. Didn’t feel nearly as long as it is.

  • RustyShackleford

    Sick list, I’ve been meaning to check out that Hate Eternal (on that note, I ALSO need to read Dune. As an aspiring English teacher, that was a cool story).

    I also got really burnt out on new music this year, sometimes only picking one or two from the Toilet Tuesday post. I find it helpful that I know/trust a lot of y’alls taste, so it’s cool that when I’m not feeling in the mood to slog through it myself, I feel more compelled when one of you guys keeps sharing/writing about something. Dubz posting Krallice’s Ygg huur comes to mind haha, thanks Dubz.

    Anyway, yup!

    • RJA

      One of the main reasons I’m here is I trust a lot of people’s taste around here. And also I can stand most of you unlike the rest of the world I interact with on a daily basis.

    • Boss the Damage Case Ross

      Read it!

  • Dubs

    Hot dang, Max. Well done. I obviously loved Ygg Huur, and I’m pleased to see Beaten to Death, Izah, and Trials on your list. I’m checking out Sectorial now. You’re right about the cheese, but the songs are great.

    • Max

      It’s probably the most curious case of juxtaposition, isn’t it?

  • more beer

    Great article Max!

  • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

    Happily it took only a brief trawl through the Stygian blackness of my room to find that I still have copies of Dune and sequels. Maybe this year I will finally read them!

    Intriguing list, and a fine read as ever. I’m only really familiar with the Krallice, so that’s lots in my to listen pile.

    • Boss the Damage Case Ross

      Read them!

    • Max

      Only read Dune and perhaps Dune Messiah. Don’t bother with the rest. And don’t bother with the prequels.

      • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

        Eventually his son ended up writing them, right? I’ve got Dune, Messiah, Children, God Emperor, Heretics and Chapterhouse. It’ll probably be a few years before I get through them all, unless I get deterred. I tend not to read more than one beefy book per writer each year and I’ve got at least a half dozen different writers piling up.

        • Max

          That’s right; his son took over the franchise, and although he’s quite readable, he just doesn’t have the same feel as Herbert did. Plus, it’s one of those situations where the more writers you bring into the “expanded universe”, the more inconsistencies and discontinuities you introduce into the storyline.

          As for Herbert’s own sequels – curiously, HE didn’t have the same feel as on his first book, either. They get a lot less readable for me. It might even have something to do with the first book having its own film treatment, whereas the others don’t. It does make it easier to follow the story and visualize the characters if you watch the film first in my experience. With the later books, you don’t have that option. (Well, not from God Emperor onwards, anyway.)

          • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

            I guess with a series, the writing can turn into something more like work the longer the series goes on. Streams of inspiration get muddied or grow thin.

          • Max

            I wouldn’t one day mind reading the biography of Frank Herbert that his son wrote. It might even address the changing style of the books. I’m not the first one to point out that they seem to get less readable.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            That would be an interesting read. I agree with you on the readability.

        • KJM, Shake Zula

          I say go as far as God Emperor then decide if you care anymore.

  • COAL ROLL

    If you like Krallice I suggest trying Antichrist Imperium

    • Dave Vincent’s Perm

      Matt Wilcock >>>>>

  • I share your sentiments about digesting music and my tolerence is probably lower than yours. I generally shy away from longer songs and listen to shorter ones. If I’m not interested by the time the vocals kick in, then I’m out. The vocals are usually the make or break point for me.

    • Can you give a grind recommendation ? I have some drawings to pound out. I need tunage.

    • Max

      It’s remarkable how much of a deal-breaker vocals can be.

      • for me, you just described King Diamond
        *takes flak from everybody in the metal community

        • Boss the Damage Case Ross

          Damn, at least you’re honest.

        • for me, you just described Lemmy.
          * too soon, imsorry*

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            I don’t think Lemmy would’ve cared if anyone told him he didn’t like his vocals. And I don’t think anyone would take offense at you saying you don’t like Lemmy’s vocals. Motörhead fans who visited the comment section of “that other blog” have already stomached much worse shit, since Hester Kukk was at it again big time.

          • Max

            I honestly don’t see what Hester gets out of his antics.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            Nobody does I guess. He can be amusing though. But disrespecting the death of a musician (who was undeniably important to the creation of the entire genre) the way he was doing, was not funny or clever. He was just acting like a prepubescent asshole trying to be edgy.

          • Max

            And yet, a little-known byway of TovH history is that Hester was inadvertently responsible for its conception. He was the one who started posting porn, which prompted Vince Neilstein to disable the embedding feature in the comments.

            Since we all used to enjoy embedding gifs, YouTube videos and pictures, Papa Joe had the bright idea of creating a new blog where we could. (Of course, you’d have to ask Joe to verify if that was his sole motivation; but that’s the way I like to recount the legend.)

          • Maik Beninton™

            Did RiotAct popularized the *flush* saying?

          • FLUSH

          • Max

            He did; it was him and a couple others who I had assumed were RiotAct sock-puppets; although I believe I was mistaken about that. They were always flushing anything that wasn’t Metallica.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            Hahaha. But Hester can be amusing from time to time, I’m not denying that. I don’t mind him trolling a band. But the feeling I get with him sometimes is that he doesn’t even listen to the bands or albums he shits on. I’m not even sure he listens to the bands or albums he likes. Just a month ago he was creaming all over Cradle of Filth’s last album, yet now he claims they suck. I’ve seen him pull that same stunt with many bands.

          • more beer

            I am not sure he eve knows what metal is.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            With him I really, genuinely doubt he even actually listens to metal- and with “listening” I mean REALLY “listening” and “enjoying” the music. His opinion on a band keeps swinging back and forth. One month that band sucks, the next month that same band which used to suck in his opinion is suddenly the best thing since sliced bread.

          • more beer

            I’ve had bipolar girlfriends. Who’s opinions and decisions flip flopped less often than him.I really wouldn’t be surprised if he has had a traumatic brain injury. At some point in his life.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            Hahaha! Yeah that wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
            Personally I never minded him trolling bands. Music’s subjective and if a band I like gets trolled in a funny way, I crack a smile just the same I do when a band I dislike gets trolled properly. I never had a personal problem with him, even though he tried to test me a couple of times before, which I just shrugged off.
            But the disrespect he showed towards the death of a legendary musician almost threw me into a fit of rage. He doesn’t even have to like Motörhead. But saying shit such as “Lemmy’s grave is in the toilet” and stuff like that, is plain retarded.

          • more beer

            I will fuck with him when he trolls a good band. It is more in fun than being a malicious scum bag. But that really pissed me ff too. Even more than him wanting to commit sex acts on my dead grandmother. The thing there yesterday the most was. Vine posting that video of Lemmy’s mole singing Ace of Spades. Besides my finding it completely stupid. It was totally disrespectful, to a man who was a legend. Coming from someone who has a metal blog. That they use as a social justice platform. To ostracize anyone who doesn’t share their beliefs. As far as I’m concerned that is extremely hypocritical.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            That video was, aside from being disrespectful, just really lame. Stuff like that is only funny when you’re 16.
            Typical for the comment section over there though is that there was some big chin douchebag (who barely made a post before) calling out everybody who had a problem with that video.

          • more beer

            It was horrible to say the least. I am going to go a step further and say no one over the age of 12 should find that funny. Those idiots there make their money off of the metal community. As someone with a small business. I certainly don’t go out of my way to do things my customers may find offensive. Those idiots are making a career out of that.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            The problem is that they try to be offensive and paternalizing at the same time. If they want to be offensive, sure that’s fine. But then they have to go all the way, don’t spare anyone or anything. And if they want to be offensive, at least make offensive jokes that are actually funny. Not some lame teenager shit.
            Rhombus’ article today on Motörhead was quite good though.

          • more beer

            No it never works. When people try to play both sides of the fence. I am not surprised that article was by Jared oops I mean Vince. Since all he does for the most part, is post things about children or are childlike. Which personally I find rather creepy.I was really shocked at the article Rohmbus did. Since I have read a few show reviews he has done. That I have been at. I have been left wondering. If we actually both saw the same show.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            You mean the shows he mentions in the article?

          • more beer

            No he lives in Denver. One was Denver Black Sky the other was Origin and 1349 last winter. The reviews both made me just shake my head and say what the fuck.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            Ah ok I see. I don’t think Rhombus is a bad guy. At least not compared to a certain other dickbag I will not name. But he’s prone to writing some WTF-articles from time to time.
            But this Motörhead one of today was good, which is refreshing.

          • more beer

            That was one of the best articles they have had in a long time. I have figured out who he is. By things he has said in his articles and the process of elimination. I saw him 4 weeks ago at the Black Sky after party at the brewery the next day. I didn’t speak to him. I was with a bunch of friends. Plus we were hanging with Sherwood and Joe from Skinless and Zac from Vimana formerly of Cephalic Carnage. All people I would much rather talk music with than Rhombus.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            Completely understandable.

          • more beer

            Plus I don’t want him to know I comment there.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            Also completely understandable.

          • that’s certainly what Vince thinks happened (judging from some podcast interview he did a while back). i like to think part of the reason was to create a place where everybody got along

          • I have to agree that the flurry of youtube recs people kept posting was slightly ridiculous.

          • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

            We were basically just destructive shitposting. But on the other hand, I’ve lurked there once or twice since, and there’s much worse nowadays.

          • Max

            I must admit I’m astonished at how well we DO get along here. It is literally the ONLY commenting forum I’ve ever browsed where there is barely any acrimony at all, and none of it permanent.

            And it’s METAL, for fuck’s sake! An almost total guy-fest; talking about possibly the most male-oriented, obsessive genre of music there is.

            I spend most of the rest of my internet time on news websites like Salon.com and The Guardian that are constantly filing articles about trolls, online abuse, flaming, misogyny, etc. And I think to myself – “If you could just see us…”

          • it’s just more rewarding being nice and respectful to other internet people, even building real relationships (I.E. i’ve met three other toileteers IRL). trolls and shit-talkers aren’t going to get that

          • more beer

            I have met one other toileteer. I certainly plan on meeting more.

          • one day we’re going to have the ultimate meetup, and find out who that Tapir really is…

          • more beer

            He’s the only one that won’t show up.

          • even if it’s in his hometown!

          • more beer

            No. But he my come out to defend his hometown. From the invading hoard of toileteers.

          • more beer

            We all have the common bond of metal here. Everyone coming here from that other shit storm of a comments section really helps I think. No one here wants that shit here..

          • COAL ROLL

            that was Conan posting the porn

          • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

            Didn’t Conan post nudie pics and Hester post actual porno shots?

          • more beer

            It was both of the.

          • Max

            Nah, what happened was that Conan was posting off-topic softcore pics of various scream queens and the like. These were tolerated, and other people often did the same, as well as posting YouTube links to music that wasn’t related to the TMZ-style subject matter of whichever blogpost Metalsucks had written. As a result the comment sections, though off-topic, often became way more thriving and fun than they had been.

            But then Hester took the tradition up a notch and posted pictures of actual copulation, which is when the hammer came down. Conan was in a sense wrongly blamed for Hester’s actions.

            Anyway, that was when the Great Exodus occurred. Ironically, in retrospect I can kind of understand Vince’s reasons: A website that relies on hits really does have to stay SFW 24 hours of the day. But whatever – we’ve got TovH now.

          • more beer

            Yes and for this we rejoice.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            He can only get his limp wing wang hard by trolling. The guy liked CoF, his opinions are the same as KJU’s. Bad. Really bad.

          • Lets not bring down KJU, he did nothing wrong.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            He a weeb, there’s plenty of wrong in that man.

          • Be nice.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            George Lynch is a serious man.

          • I’d like to think to our community would pride itself by not bringing others down. Which, I believe, sets this community apart from others.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            KJU and I are constantly pecking at each other. He calls me a Swede lover, I call him a weeb. It’s all good and fun.

          • It is hard to tell seriousness at times. Sorrys

          • more beer

            That is because here there is a level of respect for each other. Unlike that other place. Where the people who a running it. Find every way possible. To antagonize and bring out the worst in people.

          • Maik Beninton™

            KJU has more common sense than Hester.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            KJU, under all the weeaboo filth, likes some good stuff like post-punk and neofolk. I’ve never seen Hester like good things.

          • Maik Beninton™

            I’ve never seen Hester like anything at all, on the short time I was there all I see was some shitty youtube comments from him.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            I thought he said his favorite album of all time was Marilyn Manson’s Holy Wood. And the entire Nine Inch Nails discography.
            He used to like Cradle of Filth and Behemoth up until yesterday.

          • Maik Beninton™

            Never saw any of this. He’s like the polar opposite of Derek.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            McNulty called me the anti-Derek.

          • 🙂

          • Maik Beninton™

            I would say you are more like a anti-JJD.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            But I like prog and JJD likes prog.

          • Maik Beninton™

            Right, I forgot about that.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I do love my prog.

          • Maybe you just need to change your name to Sir Tapir the Anti

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            Or Sir Grohl the Grohl?

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            Hahaha yeah I’ve never seen Derek openly say he disliked something. If he didn’t like it, he just started another subject in the comments. Derek’s a genuinely nice guy though.

          • more beer

            Derek is a hell of a nice guy. His actions of departing over there. After he became moderator certainly expressed his hate for that gig.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            That job wasn’t anything for Derek. He wasn’t up for it. He’s way too kind-hearted to be fed to a cesspool such as an internet comment section.

          • more beer

            I totally agree. That is a job for someone with very thick skin. Who knows how to hate. Derek possessed none of those qualities.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            What about good old JJD?

          • Talking in third person?

            That is a paddlin’

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            JJD doesn’t care about being paddled.

          • I am not sure outing perverse sexual fantasies is a good idea, buddy. loljk

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I don’t want that to ever happen to me sexually.

          • Just in case you are fibbing, I made a screen grab. RFI

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            JJD (GONE SEXUAL)

          • more beer

            BDSM!

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            Vem?

          • i’d describe you with lyrics taken from Tyree’s love-making song of choice:
            ♫ you’re the best arooooooouuuuund!
            ♫ no one’s ever gonna bring ya down!

          • more beer

            But KJU is a good guy. Hester is a Fuck faced fuck.

          • more beer

            A single celled organism has more sense than him.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            My opinions are bad.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            And you should feel bad.

          • more beer

            Yes they are. But I don’t consider you stupid like I do him.

          • Maik Beninton™

            He’s guy that just likes to provoke, and when is time to fight back he’s terrible, like when he got on an internet fight with more beer not long ago.

          • more beer

            Yesterday too. His troll skills are weak.I wouldn’t really call it a fight. It is more me toying with his tiny brain.Even though he wants to have sex with y dead grandmother. Which is pretty sick.

          • Fair enough!

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            GL plz!

        • Max

          I’m gonna secretly agree with you.

        • Maik Beninton™
        • Sir Tapir The Based

          YOU ARE DEAD TO ME
          WE ARE NO LONGER FRIENDS
          JESUS CHRIST YOU CAN’T JUST SAY THINGS LIKE THAT
          DOWNVOTED

          • YOU ARE BEING TAKEN BY THE DEVILS GRIP, THE IRONFIST.

            DON’T LET GO

          • Dave Vincent’s Perm

            The Iron Fist

        • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

          Now we’re being honest, I think Quorthon’s vocals in Hammerheart (and Bathory’s viking stuff in general) are atrocious.

          • Max

            To me it’s not that he sounds bad or inappropriate; but he definitely should have had some training or a producer when he started singing like that.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            I only really relly really dig Under The Sign of the Black Mark and Blood Fire Death.

          • Max

            For me, you can add in Hammerheart and Octagon and that’s about all I need. Blood Fire Death is head-and-shoulders above the rest.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            Octagon? I thought that album was universally hated.

          • Max

            It is; but I honestly liked it from the get-go and still do today. I’d willingly do a Justify Your Unflushed Shit write-up on it.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            Yep, that’s the two Bathory albums I like the most as well. On Blood Fire Death his vocals still sounded harsh enough for me to enjoy it.

          • Paddlin’ Rites ov Beargod

            OH YEAH, WELL…
            YOU’RE ATRCIOUS
            *totally nailed it*

        • COAL ROLL

          thank goodness that Andy LaRoque is such an amazing guitarist, that there’s more on display from KD than just the falsettos

          • so i’ve heard. my theory on KD was as such: if i wanted to listen to judas priest, i’d do just that. then again, my opinions are frequently wrong. will i ever get out of this hole i’ve dug for myself???

        • I’ll say this, the guy can sing. I just don’t like what’s coming out of his mouth.

      • Please see exhibit number one.

        Exhibit 1:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2TgehDuBOU

      • As someone who used to sceam/bark/yell over metallic hardcore, I place a premium on a powerful vocal performance. The music can be great but if vocals are lacking in any aspect, it kills the whole vibe for me.

  • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

    Huh, no commonalities with my list except derpheaven

  • oh! so your avatar wasn’t taken from Sex and the City?

    • Max

      I’d be Carrie. Which one would you be? You’d probably be Shoshanna.

      • hrm. i’ll definitely take your word for the Shoshanna thing, as i don’t remember much aside from having the hots for Cynthia

        • Max

          Actually nah, I’d be Adam. He’s got a cool light-saber.

      • Janitor Jim Duggan

        Who would I be?

        • Max

          Samantha. Definitely Samantha.

          • more beer

            I was going to say the one who was the biggest whore. Which is Samantha. She was the one who looked like she was having the mst fun.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            How am I similar to her at all? I don’t see that in any way.

          • Max

            I was joking, bro.

            That said, I’d love to be Samantha. Think of all the action.

  • Max, you fucked up the list format. The nonsensical number one entry is supposed to be Dave Grohl.

  • The Beaten To Death stuff is interesting and it received alot of praise. The recommnded track is good. Going to delve into this some more.

  • Great article Max. I’ve only listened to about four or these recommendations so I’ll have to go and catch up on them. I haven’t been nearly as active as I used to be on this website (much of this stems from a large workload now that I am at an actual university – at least I managed to get all A’s this first semester). This year has been very strange for me in that I haven’t found as much satisfaction with some of the heavier genres of metal and for the past three months or so, I’ve listened almost exclusively to power metal (a genre which I know EVERYONE here loves). Here is my giant-ass list of most of my favorite albums/demos/EPs from this year:

    Ghost – Meliora (Favorite)
    Visigoth – The Revenant King (Runner Up – Most Listened To)
    Manimal – Trapped in the Shadows
    Beorn – Time to Dare
    Unleash the Archers – Time Stands Still
    Messenger – Starwolf II: Novastorm
    Gloryhammer – Space 1992: Rise of the Chaos Wizards
    Triddana – The Power & the Will
    Rock Rollas – Pagan Ritual
    Tanagra – None of This Is Real
    Blazon Stone – No Sign of Glory
    Marius Danielsen – Legend of Valley Doom Part One
    Breitenhold – The Inn of Sorrowing Souls
    Stratovarius – Eternal
    Powerwolf – Blessed & Possessed
    Blind Guardian – Beyond the Red Mirror
    Kardashev – Peripety
    Kronos – Arisen New Era
    Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats – The Night Creeper
    Elder – Lore
    Witchhelm – Invocations; Conjuring
    Subterranean Masquerade – The Great Bazaar
    Dreadnought – Bridging Realms
    Thy Catafalque – Sgurr
    So Hideous – Laurestine
    Iron Maiden – The Book of Souls
    Secrets of the Sky – Pathway
    The Black Dahlia Murder – Abysmal
    Wolfheart – Shadow World
    Burial Vault – Unity in Pluralism
    Thulcandra – Ascension Lost
    Blackslash – Sinister Lightning
    Valkyrie – Shadows
    Lord Fist – Green Eyleen
    Katana – The Greatest Victory
    Enforcer – From Beyond
    Cloven Altar – Demon of the Night
    Night Demons – Curse of the Damned
    Pinkish Black – Bottom of the Morning
    Stormhold – Battle of the Royal Halls
    Bell Witch – Four Phantoms
    Cross Vault – The All-Consuming
    Obsidian Sea – Dreams, Illusions, Obsessions
    Sorcerer – In the Shadow of the Inverted Cross
    Ghost Bath – Moonlover
    Black Fast – Terms of Surrender
    Pissgrave – Suicide Euphoria
    Autopsy – Skull Grinder
    Grusome – Savage Land
    Percussor – Proclamation of Hate
    Jungle Rot – Order Shall Prevail
    Amputory – Ode to Gore
    Entrails – Obliteration
    Abyssus – Into the Abyss
    Gutter Instinct – The Insurrection
    Desolate Shrine – Heart of the Netherworld
    Sulphur Aeon – Gateway To the Antisphere
    Defaced – Forging the Sanctuary
    Undead – False Prophecies
    Nerlich – Eternity’s Gate
    Vorum – Current Mouth
    Bodyfarm – Battle Breed
    Cattle Decapitation – The Anthropocene Extinction
    My Dying Bride – Feel the Misery
    Dead To a Dying World – Litany
    Ereb Altor – Nattramn
    Paradise Lost – The Plague Within
    Swallow the Sun – Songs from the North
    Dan Terminus – The Wrath of Code
    Mephorash – 1577 – Rites of Nullification; Sfaira Tis Fotias
    Mastery – V.A.L.I.S.
    Celtefog – Three Nights in the Mediterranean Sea
    Carach Angren – This Is No Fairytale
    Der Weg Einer Freiheit – Stellar
    Black Candle Ritual – Passages of Black Devotion
    Alda – Passage
    Necropole – Ostara
    Deafheaven – New Bermuda
    Cradle of Filth – Hammer of the Witches
    Horn – Feldpost
    Mgla – Exercises in Futility
    Frosthelm – The Endless Winter
    Akhlys – The Dreaming I
    Claret Ash – The Cleansing
    Carn Dum – Carn Dum
    Arvas – Black Satanic Mysticism
    Eternal Valley – Ascend To the Unknown
    Deluge – Aether
    Serpentrance – The Besieged Sanctum
    An Autumn for Crippled Children – The Long Goodbye; Portugal
    Pakistuf – Nature
    Antlers – A Gaze into the Abyss
    Sorrow Plagues – An Eternity of Solitude
    Aries – D’ombres Et De Flammes
    Wiegedood – De Doden Hebben Het Goed
    Twilight Fauna – Bloodlines
    Panopticon – Autumn Eternal

    • Boss the Damage Case Ross

      Where is Clutch?

    • Max

      That IS giant-ass.

      • You should ask Tyree for his list. He doesn’t fuck around either!

        • Max

          I gather that from seeing what he posts underneath other articles. I’m a rank amateur listener compared to some of you guys.

    • Sir Tapir The Based

      I noticed you have Stratovarius on that list of yours
      DISQUALIFIED

      • Stratovarius is love. Stratovarius is life.

      • KJM, Shake Zula

        SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT

      • Machine That Yells At Farts

        You mad that Timo, aka your biological father, isn’t in the band anymore?

    • “Gloryhammer – Space 1992: Rise of the Chaos Wizards”

      This is a killer name.

      • One of my more favorite over-the-top power metal bands.

        • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

          Album is dope, and was on many lists (and is on mine) for good reason

    • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

      Xan!

    • good job on your streak of A’s! just beware of fraternity guys smoking weed and calling Dave Matthews “brilliant”

    • This misssing slugdge,invalid.

  • Sir Tapir The Based
  • KJM, Shake Zula

    The damned movie even felt like Star Wars for the first time since 1983.

    • Pgood huh!?

      I thoroughly enjoyed it. Gonna see it this weekend, again.

      A bit cliche if you ask me, but a neat flick.

      • KJM, Shake Zula

        Star Wars is a cliche unto itself at this point. I think the next 2 movies will have a bit less of that.

      • Finally going to see it this weekend at an IMAX. Looking foward to it.

        • KJM, Shake Zula

          That’s what I did, worth it.

          • Huge screen at the one I’m going to. Saw Avatar there and it was worth the extra money for the experience

          • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

            What theater Ron? Lol… not stalking you just wondering.

          • At the Palisades Mall in West Nyack. Only a half hour ride and totally worth it.

          • more beer

            Rockland County. I have a lot of friends there.

          • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

            Didnt realize you were in this neck of the woods man. I actually ran into Ron at Wallmart in the summer. The ToVH shirt was a dead giveaway! Haha

          • more beer

            I grew up in Yonkers but I live in Denver now. But I still have a lot of friends in Rockland and Westchester.

          • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

            O yea I’m sorry. I knew you were in Denver. I’m in Bergen county New Joisey. I moved here in 2000 from the Chicago-land area.

          • more beer

            No need to be sorry. I did spend a good portion of my life there.

          • whoa! unplanned mall meetup? i bet that looked epic to passers-by in the mall

          • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

            I didn’t have my t shirt on but I was leaving Walmart and saw the ToVH original T shirt walking in the door. I did a complete run through of all the flushers (in my mind) in New jersey and name matched Ron D. Told my wife to hold on a second and ran back in to say hey and the rest is history. This an international organization mother fuckers, were tight like that, anywhere any time!

          • onlookers would hear you two talking and describe it to a friend like “it was so weird, one guy was talking about deuce in the toilet and the other one was talking about taco riffs…”

          • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

            With the satanic looking shirt forged in the bowls of hell

          • Taco and I went to Walmart looking for grotesque and obese human forms of life and found that this particular venue had mass quantities of them.

          • Machine That Yells At Farts

            You’re friends with the Taco the Puttin’ On The Ritz guy?

          • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

            AND a few of Tacos favorite things: cheap ass packs of Haynes pocket T-shirts, boxer briefs, shitty dvds for 2 bucks I buy to add to my collection and never watch a second time, inflatable holiday decorations that stop working after one year, good cheap “shit kicker” boots for shoveling snow etc. You know shit like that…

          • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

            One of my old favorites when I lived in Mahwah! Good mall too…enjoy!

          • Machine That Yells At Farts
          • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

            haha…love me some stooges!

          • Max

            Caveat Emptor with the 3-D, Ron (see my remarks to KJM above).

            Although that said, there’s one particular shot in the film which is REALLY enhanced by being in 3-D. I won’t specify with a spoiler, but get back to me when you’ve seen it and we’ll compare notes.

          • Cool, I will be on the look out for things that light up my eyeballs.

          • Max

            Hint: Let’s call it a “stationary” shot.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            You have me intrigued, i saw it twice, which part are we talking about? Any other hints to help me?

          • Max

            I may as well let the cat out of the bag; it’s not even really a “spoiler” anyway; in fact it’s barely even a “scene”: Somewhere midway through the film there’s a shot of a Star Destroyer parked in space above a planet. We’re viewing it from the nose-end. Nothing special about that, but in 3-D it was poking right out at my face.

            From the beginning of the film I was finding the 3-D format a little annoying (it’s something I’ve only done once before and usually avoid; but this was the only convenient screening I could find last night that wasn’t booked out) but when that shot appeared, with the ship vividly seeming to protrude from the screen, I immediately thought “Gotta admit, that is cool.”

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Ah, okay. That makes sense, and sounds cool. I have heard the 3D doesn’t get in the way but adds a “depth” to the film. But i guess it all has to do with who is viewing it.

          • Max

            To me, it added a lot of blurriness to whatever wasn’t front-and-centre of the scene, depth notwithstanding. Possibly I’ll watch the 2-D version and find the same issue; thus concluding that it wasn’t the fault of the 3-D. But I remember past Star Wars movies as being a bit more “defined” than this one when it came to background detail – Really important when you’re a kid collecting all the figures and you’re just repeatedly watching the movie to figure out which extras appear where.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Alright, I can see that happening. I think I’ve only actually seen one 3D movie in theater and it was animated, so thats a bit different.
            There is a tad bit of the bluriness you mention in the 2D, but maybe not in the same way you are describing.

          • Max

            Ah shit; you’ve answered my query already. I should’ve scrolled lower before blathering on.

    • A New Hope, remastered

      • KJM, Shake Zula

        Practical FX FTW.

        • Boss the Damage Case Ross

          That was my favorite part

    • more beer

      Nice. I haven’t bothered with any of them since the third Star Wars.

      • KJM, Shake Zula

        Loved it, great stuff.

        • more beer

          Good I’m glad you enjoyed it.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            If you like the original movies and not the prequels, it’s definitely worth a trip to the theater.

          • more beer

            Cool.

        • Dubs

          I always knew you were decent.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            It’s the fun popcorn matinee that the originals were.

    • Max

      Did you just see it? Me too; last night. Got home a couple of hours before this article got posted.

      I think I need to see it again in 2-D, though. 3-D, I feel, has the tendency to blur things that aren’t in the foreground of the shot; so you can’t always see the detail of the ship interiors, etc. And as you know, in movies like Star Wars you’ve got to TAKE IN ALL the VISUAL DETAIL.

      • KJM, Shake Zula

        Agreed. I’ll definitely see it again for precisely that reason.

        • Dubs

          A number of us on Facebook have a pretty active group message discussing theories and symbolism. Star Wars may not be as intellectual as Star Trek, but there’s certainly enough there to keep the imagination going.

          • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

            I was really just giving you star wars fellas hell. Its an age old rivalry and someone has to keep up the fight. Ive seen all the star wars movies multiple times. I think we own all of them too.

            That said, i dont find star wars as compelling as most

          • Dubs

            And I used to watch TNG as a kid every day when I got home from school. I just prefer one to the other. It’s hard to explain, but I guess, to me, it makes the universe feel big and full of infinite possibility in a way Star Trek never did.

          • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

            It has quite a lot to do with me not being a big “movie” person. Star Trek feels more like a book.

            Does that make sense? Is that some sort of synesthesia?

          • Dubs

            It does make sense! I’m not sure what you’d call that, but it makes sense.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Trek has far more intellectual weight than SW anyday.

          • Machine That Yells At Farts

            Don’t think that’s the word you’re looking for. IIRC, synesthesia is when you picture sounds in color and whatnot. Bat For Lashes has that, as well as the chick from Marena And The Diamonds.

          • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

            Im well aware of that

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            I think the “long time ago in a galaxy far away” helps create that atmosphere, rather than “in the future, this might happen”.

            I’m glad to see the harmony here though. A lot of people think we’re gangs of rival nerds that can’t get along, though it does happen on occasion, most of us can enjoy both but just have a slight preference for one. Personally I like Trek more, but can completely understand when someone like Wars instead. Just like the different genres of metal, it’s all under the SciFi umbrella we all love.

          • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

            Im def not a scifi guy, either

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Wait, what?

          • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

            Im a high-fantasy guy, all day long

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Ahhhhhhh, gotcha, right on. Favorite series? If you dont mind me asking?

          • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

            As far as books go(and i suppose movies): tolkien, of course. If only for sentimental reasons. But lately ive been clearing out Robin Hobbs’ entire bibliography. Joe abercrombie, glen cook, robert jordan, the list goes on

            There isnt much good

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Nice. Are you a Robert E Howard fan?

          • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

            I cant say im terribly familiar

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Conan, Kull and Solomon Kane. Definitely not High Fantasy, the exact opposite actually, but i was curious as to your opinion.

          • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

            Ill have to go grab one my next time at the bookstore and get back to you

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            See if you can find Del Rey’s The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian. Its the first of 3 Conan collection they put out and are excellently put together.

          • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

            Did you like the remake with Ron Perlman a couple years back?

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Ron Perlman was the best part. Other than that, it was eh. There are moments when they really nail Conan’s character, but for the most part, eh. I’ll watch it if its on. I wish they would’ve just picked one of Howard’s stories to use instead of trying to make something new. Kinda like Jackson and his Hobbit saga.

          • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

            Jackson is a butcher, really.

            Just like Abrams (to bring this back around)

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Exactly.

            Full circle, nice.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            He did a much better job on the LOTR movies. I’ll probably never see the Hobbit movies again, or I’ll just watch the Gandalf scenes.

          • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

            Ill watch The Fellowship of the Ring any day, the rest of them are pretty much a mess

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Miranda Otto, just sayin’.

          • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

            Liv tyler Too

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            I will say this. A hobbit would NEVER tell another hobbit(or anyone for that matter) that they smoke too much. That’s just anti-hobbit behavior.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            LotR, though they did have a few problems, were phenomenal movies. The Hobbit films lost all the magic in a large charlie foxtrot of trilogy. Gandalf is the man.

          • Machine That Yells At Farts

            I still would’ve loved to have seen Del Toro do The Hobbit.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Agreed.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Abrams has a much better feel for Star Wars than he does for Trek, to say the very least.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            I’m much more of a sci-fi and horror guy than fantasy.

          • more beer

            Me either. Definitely horror and things more based in reality.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            What about Alien? Best of both worlds.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            One of the best movies ever.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Agreed.

          • more beer

            Yea I liked Alien. There is some ScifI I will watch. I just meant as a whole There are things I like much more.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            I gotcha man, i can respect that.

          • Machine That Yells At Farts

            Or the Re-Animator.

          • Machine That Yells At Farts

            I’m the complete opposite. I very rarely watch horror, simply because most of it’s so boring and formulaic.

          • more beer

            I just like old school blood and guts.

          • Machine That Yells At Farts

            I loved The Collector, which was definitely a gore fest.

          • more beer

            Way off topic But I just saw a recent picture of the Bill Cosby victim. That he got arraigned for. I have to say she has a striking resemblance to Howard Stern.

          • Machine That Yells At Farts

            He raped Simon Garfunkle! THAT MONSTER!!!!!!!!!! Or is that Carrot Top or Simply Red in the picture?

          • more beer

            It’s Howard Stern. I guess it is on topic. Because of the horror.

          • Machine That Yells At Farts
          • Max

            Actually, technically, Star Wars isn’t considered sci-fi; it’s considered Space Opera – which is basically fantasy set in a sci-fi context. This might seem like splitting hairs, but it really does illuminate the difference between Wars and Trek.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            I can agree with you on that.

          • Machine That Yells At Farts

            Not really. Star Wars is mainly stuck in a pretty tight area as far as locations, whereas Star Trek was constantly moving on to different worlds. Well, then again, SW is a series of movies, so things have to be a bit compact, whereas ST was mainly a TV series with a lot less compression and more room to expand.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            I’m far more of a Trekkie. Spock tips the balance in a HUGE way for me.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            I kinda wish i had facebook, just so i could join in on that discussion. And you make an excellent point, i have discussed this movie extensively with friends and family and will continue to do so.

          • Lacertilian

            Burner account.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Eh, I dunno. Maybe at some point.

  • Max,

    I hope that your year long excursion of listening to all these tunes (as you have outlined) was worth the good feedback you have received from this write up. I am not sure I would have the gumption to make it through an entire year of listening! Again, fine work.

    GL

    • Boss the Damage Case Ross

      Well said GL. You speak for all of us.

    • Max

      It totally WAS worth all of the GREAT feedback that I got from you guys, George. Cheers for your thoughts.

      • Zeke

        great job, Max. I think your articles have been among my favorite over the past year.

        • Max

          Cheers, man!

  • more beer

    Bill Cosby just got arraigned on aggravated indecent assault charges. It’s a start but more charges need to be filed against him.

  • Óðinn
  • JWEG

    Looking back at some of the TovH, AMG and other Twittered lists I decided to rectify my lack of a few.

    About a week ago I got Baroness & Draconian, yesterday Bell Witch & Monolord. Today I am looking for Abyssal, Elder, Magic Circle & that Krallice album that seems to be almost literally on every list (not really, but might as well be).

    I am batting 0 today so far, even from Ditch Records which is usually great for exactly these or similar things (I swear someone on their staff could be a TovH reader for how closely after great reviews here albums appear there).

    • BLACKBEARD UNFILTERED

      That draconian album fought pretty hard to make my list, so did krallice

    • Boss the Damage Case Ross

      Thoughts on Purple?

      • JWEG

        It’s really good. Riffs for days.

        The color spectrum is bang on too, as it definitely feels like a combination of Blue and Red (though maybe not 50-50).

        • Boss the Damage Case Ross

          Riffs on top of riffs on top of riffs.
          I like that color comment. Also has a bit, dare i say, prettier singing, adding to the “purple” pallette.

  • For anybody who grew up on a diet of grungy, indie fare like Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr and Swervedriver before discovering metal, the crossover of black metal and shoegaze was a long time coming, thanks to some musicological similarities.

    This thought has occurred to me more than once, and I couldn’t have said it better. It is for precisely this reason that I love the everloving fuck out of Bosse-de-Nage.

    • Edward/Breegrodamus™

      They’ve gotten the most comparisons to Slint. Slint + black metal.

      • NO. (Sorry, so sorry, but I am so motherfucking tired of that lazy, hackneyed comparison. Have you ever listened to Slint? I’d bet any similarities are pure coincidence. Bitch Magnet was doing the whole “speaking vocals/loud-quiet-loud” thing at the same damn time, but nobody accuses Bosse-de-Nage of Bitch-Magnet-worship. AAAAAAAAARERRRRGGGGG!)

        /rant
        kisses

        • Edward/Breegrodamus™

          Hahaha. I’ve listened to Slint like one time. That’s just the thing I have read about the most when it comes to our homeys BdN.

          I thought the Pixies had ownership of “speaking vocals / loud-quiet-loud”

          “Smells Like Teen Spirit” is the best pop song ever written. Nirvana totally bit that from the Pixies (readily admitted by Cobain) but the Pixies never wrote a pop song that good.

          • Just stepping in this thread to say Here Comes Your Man >>>>>>>> Smells Like Teen Spirit.

          • Now that I’ve offered my completely unsolicited opinions, it appears my work here is done.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            Love that song.

            “Smells Like Teen Spirit” is a grotesquely good pop song.

          • I’ll take Lounge Act or Pennyroyal Tea over SLTS any day. I can’t tell if that song was never good or if I just hate it after hearing it 43432578904378543745870453879543789453 times.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            I heard it today on the radio. It’s been good the entire time Richter!

          • We’ll just have to agree to dis–

            No, wait, YOU’RE WRONG EDWORD.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            They most certainly have better songs.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            I clarified “Smells Like Teen Spirit” as a pop song in this conversation, which it totally is it’s a pop jam.

          • Sir Tapir The Based

            It was never good.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Bands like The Pixies and Jane’s Addiction deserve far more credit than Nirvana and Pearl Jam for jumpstarting the whole “Alternative” thing in the 90s.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            My buddy from here just told me he thinks Butthole Surfers should be included in the pantheon of great American rock bands. I haven’t really fucked with them much.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Not a huge fan but I agree, saw them at Lollapalooza 1991.

          • 1) Most Pixies songs from Surfer Rosa/Doolittle are better than anything Nirvana ever wrote.

            2) Ever since Pitchfork and Aquarius Records mentioned Slint in reviews of early Bosse-de-Nage records years ago, every lazy ass journalist this side of the Sun has copied and pasted that comparison. If you read Pitchfork, you’d think inde-post-rock was BORN AND DIED WITH SLINT’s SPIDERLAND–which is obviously not at all the case. WTF?

            Edit: 3) Bitch Magnet was active at the same time as early Pixies and Slint. Just sayin.

          • Zeke

            ahh come on! nirvana’s good stuff is absolutely fantastic

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            I’ve never been too proud to admit Nirvana was a fantastic band.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            Richter you ever listen to Craw? Check out Craw. I think you’d dig ’em, they had albums out on Hydra Head. I’m jamming Craw now. Mathcore or mathy hard rock or whatever the fuck Bodies for Strontium 90 is.

          • Okay. But only because you COMMANDED it.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            Active voice.

          • This is very representative of awesome things that were going on in underground rock in the 90s. I liek so fawr.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            What about Botch Richter? Are you a Botch fan?

          • No.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            Fair enough.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            I’m gonna check out Slint now though.

          • I must not be smart enough to understand Spiderland. Because every time I listen to it I just get bored and listen to something else instead–like Codeine or Sunny Day or Archers of Loaf or the aforesaid Bitch Magnet.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            If I retrace my steps, I could come back to those bands. I didn’t mean I would check out Slint now, like in this moment, I meant now I have to check out Slint. I am listening to Botch, lol

          • o
            k

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            I’m glad we had this talk.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            I’m glad i could read it.

          • SDRE >>>>>>>>>>>>

          • I knew I could conjure you within seconds with an SDRE plug. Like clockwork.

          • what about Minus the Bear Edward? are you a MtB fan?

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            I used to jam a little bit of Minus the Bear, mostly because some of the Botch members went on to be a part of that band!

          • MtB is fun for a while, as those dudes are certainly talented. but once that wears off i’m left wanting. i guess that’s why we’re all more into metal than alternative rock!

          • Machine That Yells At Farts
        • Just stepping into this thread to that Slint’s indie acclaim completely bewilders me.

          • Ditto. Thank you.

          • Max

            Have you listened to the whole of Spiderland? I’m not saying doing that will convert you. But I didn’t give a flying fuck about Slint until I tried doing that.

            It’s not a very long record, either.

          • I have. I should maybe write a post about this, but when I was a younger man I bought so many indie and metal critic-beloved classics that I just hated and I’ll never understand. Spiderland was on that list : /

          • Max

            No judgement here. I went through a phase where I got into plenty of bands purely because “the critics” told me to. It must be just about the worst possible way to go about spending money on music. I mean sure, a lot of teenagers get into bands simply because of peer group influence; but at least in that case your friends are actually playing the material to you, and you’re usually not paying for it first.

            Write the post.

    • Max

      I really should check them out some day.

      • Boss the Damage Case Ross

        I keep thinking that as well. I think i listened to a little bit of one song before, but should get a better listen in at some point.

        • Bosse-de-Rosse

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Haha! Please remind me of that around Monday. I would like to use that, but in still paying respects to Lemmy.

      • If you listen to only one song… This will take ten minutes of your time and your full attention, but if this does not convert you, I fear nothing will …

        Nobody crashes an orgy like BdN

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCLjnB8oeHk

        • Max

          I WILL listen to this within 48 hours. I WILL return a verdict.

          • Machine That Yells At Farts

            Great article, btw! You have a very fluid writing style.

          • Max

            Cheers! I put a lot of thought into my screeds, so I really appreciate the compliments.

          • Machine That Yells At Farts

            I’m wanting to finally buckle down and finally do an article for the first time ever. I’ve done somewhere around 80-90 interviews over the years, but never got my brain strapped down enough for an article.

          • Max

            Do it!

        • Boss the Damage Case Ross

          I liked this song, the intro was a tad long winded, but after the listen, it made sense.

          I could definitely lay down for a while and get lost in this band. Which album do you suggest? Or should i just try chronological?

          • I suggest starting with iii or All Fours, as the band has really hit their stride over the past few years. Then, if you need more, go back and check out i and ii.

            Anyway, yeah, some of their songs take a while to wind-up to the big finish, others just starting melting your face off right out of the gate.

            Enjoy!

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Right on, thanks!

        • Max

          Update: I just listened. It’s quite a good song! It’s very explicitly indie rock plus blastbeats, isn’t it?

          • Yes, it is indeed. Some of their songs are more endlessly blasty, others have a lot more indie-isms laced in. Enjoy!

  • Óðinn

    ~~~

    • Boss the Damage Case Ross

      Playing with Clutch?

      • Óðinn

        Without Lemmy, there could be no Clutch.

        • Boss the Damage Case Ross

          I completely agree with you 100%
          Have you heard Noble Savage? Total Lemmy worship.

          But the picture looks like their self titled cover.

        • KJM, Shake Zula

          I agree with the sentiment, but Clutch also take a lot of their cues from bands like Steppenwolf and Creedence.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            And Captain Beyond and Bad Brains.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            MC5 too.

          • Boss the Damage Case Ross

            Definitely. Damn, i should’ve said that one…

  • Warheart

    The funny thing about Dune is that when you read the first book, you have absolutely no idea WHO really is the main character, you realize it around the 4th or 5th book.

    • Boss the Damage Case Ross

      Really? I thought it was pretty straightforward in that respect, it opens with Paul and follows his story.

      • Warheart

        You have no idea. I mean, sure, Paul is, apparently, the lead figure in the first book, but in the macro story that follows, the kwisatz haderach is someone else.

        • Boss the Damage Case Ross

          You specified first book earlier, thats what i was basing my statement off of. But i see what you’re getting at.

    • KJM, Shake Zula

      When they keep bringing him back again and again.

  • pïgchop™

    I’ll just leave this here.

  • Janitor Jim Duggan

    Reissue of the year: Real To Reel by Love. Arthur Lee was a genius who is criminally forgotten. Forever Changes is his masterwork followed by Black Beauty and Real To Reel. They finally released Black Beauty after decades of languishing in vaults in 2013. Real To Reel is usually not a good title for an album as almost all albums with that title are awful. This one is quite good.

  • ┼yree
  • Machine That Yells At Farts

    Holy shit, I thought that was a young, pre-skullet Devin Townsend in that first pic!

  • Machine That Yells At Farts

    Oh, and WWE, as predicted, did a tribute to Lemmy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=725m-7dyOh0

  • Machine That Yells At Farts

    Oh, and new Hocico video (kinda NSFW, because pastied boobies and butts)!!!!! Looks like Carnival (the tv show).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81G9VGw2kCo

  • Hans Müller

    So nice to see Beaten To Death in there, even if your holy trinity should really be a holy quadru-something including Repulsion IMO.

    Checking out some of your recommendations, definitely liking Sectorial so far.

    • Max

      Never really got into Repulsion, though I can’t deny their significance. And “Radiation Sickness” is a rad song.

  • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

    Max if that is a picture of you, are you really KARL HUNGUS?! Loved you in “Logjammin” man! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2fff693984376508f2ad28bdc25c681186d0c41c1a28d9183c5df74253af820c.jpg

    • KJM, Shake Zula

      He fixes the cable?

      • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

        “fixes” the cable…lol!

    • Max

      My face isn’t usually that elongated; I was trying to look fearsomely Metal.

      • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

        And you do! I’m just kidding around bye the way. I recently re watched the Big Lebowski and your pic reminded me of Karl.

        • Max

          No offence taken, bro!

      • You look like Christopher Amott on this one, mate!!!

  • Super Nintendo Chalmers

    That Trials album brought me back to 2004 in a good way. As lolbuttz as it sounds, there’s an early Killswitch vibe to some of this.