Interview with Luiz Mazetto, author of Nós Somos A Tempestade

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Luiz Mazetto is a guy who knows his metal. More so when it’s the sort of deviant, weird and crooked metal on the fringes of the underground. So much so that he had to write a book about it, entitled Nós Somos A Tempestade – Conversas Sobre O Metal Alternativo Dos EUA (in English: We Are The Storm – Conversations About American Alternative Metal). It features interviews with a slew of TovH favorites like ConvergeNeurosisMastodonThe Dillinger Escape PlanMelvins and more. Click here and read my interview of the interviewer. How meta.

Tell us a bit about your work and how you became interested in metal. You have a degree in journalism, right? Did you pursue that education with music writing on your mind or was that something that developed later on in your career?

I’ve been listening to metal since I was ten, totally influenced by my father. He’s one of the biggest Black Sabbath and Deep Purple fans in the world. Interestingly, I started with Led Zeppelin, which hated to be called a metal/heavy rock band. I remember that period really well, listening to “Thank You” on a Sunday morning in my house in Araras [inner São Paulo, Brasil]. Bonham’s crescendo drumming hit me, and it hit hard. From that moment on, nothing was the same. To be honest, the first metal band I fell in love with was probably Iron Maiden. I own the band’s entire collection and I have listened to their records from start to finish several times. My first concert couldn’t have been other than a Bruce Dickinson gig with Adrian Smith in his band, circa 1997. The lineup of this festival also had Dio, who put on an amazing show, and Scorpions, who made me leave early. Anyway, I got into college to write about what I loved the most – music and film. I have a degree in cinema, too. Obviously, it never happened because I never worked at a culture, music or entertainment publication, even though I tried to several times. In the end that was a good thing, because I didn’t develop the vices of writing for big music outlets and I can focus solely on what I like. My music writing would not begin until 2010, when I went to San Francisco and watched a Shrinebuilder concert. I interviewed the guys and realized I could do this on my own, without backing from a big magazine or website.

Why the interest in the so-called Alternative Metal? What is it about these relatively new and obscure subgenres that appeals to you?

I guess primarily it’s because these are some of my favorite bands, Neurosis, Eyehategod, Converge, Mastodon, Isis, among others. Also, there was no space whatsoever for this kind of metal in Brasil, but I always knew there was a public for it beyond me and my friends, which proved to be true after the book was released. I figured there was a demand for music beyond what’s covered by the traditional metal publications here, to see that there’s still people out there making good music, without worrying about the industry or labels, which is something that always bothered me a great deal even though I love heavy metal and bands like Iron Maiden, Sabbath and Dio.

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Luiz holding two of his babies. Find more on Souls At Zero here.

 

Nós Somos A Tempestade (NSaT) is the product of four years of labor. Talk to us about the process of writing the book. Was it harder to get the interviews or to actually compile everything in a cohesive way?

Like I said, it all started sort of unconsciously in 2010, when I interviewed Shrinebuilder in the clumsiest way imaginable. I was prepared to interview Scott Kelly, but he lost his voice and I suddenly found myself in a room with Wino, Al Cisneros and Dale Crover with a bunch of questions about Neurosis and only a few concerning Shrinebuilder (laughs). Anyway, I later convinced myself to keep trying to pursue this and just do it. I confess that my first two interviews, with Steve Von Till and Brian Patton (Eyehategod), weren’t the best – they even got left out of the book. But after I got the hang of it, so to speak, everything just came together and it was easier to schedule more interviews. The first ones were the hardest to get, partially due to having to reach out to the bands’ PRs or even the bands themselves. After I had a good amount of material I started thinking about the book and how to divide it in chapters. Then, I figured out the essential bands I was yet to cover and went for them. The final process, from signing the publishing contract to doing the last 10 interviews and figuring out the artwork for the book, didn’t take much long, something around six months.

[NSaT is organized into 9 chapters, with 8 representing a subgenre and containing interviews with three of its representative bands. For example, there’s one about Noise/Experimental metal featuring Today Is The Day‘s Steve Austin, as well as the charismatically titled “We Used To Be Hardcore” featuring Corrosion Of Conformity‘s Mike Dean. The last chapter features interviews with the directors of Such Hawks Such Hounds and Blood, Sweat + Vinyl, an interview of A Storm Of Light done by Fábio Massari, as well as an absolutely phenomenal list of the “50 most essential alternative metal records”, compiled by Luiz Mazetto himself.]

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Each chapter also features killer posters of old concerts.

 

Something that has been discussed by writers and readers of the Toilet Ov Hell before is how certain bands or even entire subgenres, like Isis and its post-metal, have a greater appeal among people who don’t regularly listen to metal or at least don’t fit the sterotype of a metalhead. Do you agree with this?

It might be true, maybe due to the fact that these bands, like Isis, don’t really look like “metal”, be it on the realm of clothing and the absence of long hair or on the realm of videos and album covers. On the other hand, some of these artists, perhaps even many of them, don’t want to be labeled as a metal band, or with any other genre tag, really, which can be unappealing to a more traditional metal audience.

Is there anything that got left out of the book or wasn’t around by the time it was written that you wish you had included?

There are a couple bands I wish were on the book, such as YOBSleep and Kyuss, they should appear on a new book I’m working on. Come to think of it, I now wish I had written a chapter on crust/sludge, featuring bands like His Hero Is GoneUnearthly Trance and Tragedy. They’d be a good fit not only thanks to their sound but also because they’re connected to Neurosis and other bands who made the book.

What are the plans to release the book on other countries? I heard more interviews would be added. Can you share anything about that?

This project is an idea more than anything, to be honest. I actually talked to a publisher, but unfortunately there’s nothing concrete yet. I’m working on many, many interviews that will be featured in a new book, in Portuguese. One of my ideas is to put both books together and publish in English, but it’s still embryonal. This May I’m going to Psycho California and meeting with some of the bands featured in the first book – Eyehategod, Old Man Gloom, Kylesa, Russian Circles and Cave In, besides talking to others I have either interviewed recently or have plans to interview, like Cult Of Luna, Sleep and Goatsnake.

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Mazetto with Fábio Massari, the “reverend” of alternative music journalism in Brasil. The book was launched via Coleção Mondo Massari, the latter’s publishing label.

 

You’ve mentioned cinema among your journalistic interests. Have you written about it? Any plans for that?

Besides journalism, I have a degree in film. Actually, it was more of a technical/practical kind of course. But I’ve never written about it. The biggest thing I’ve done in that field was a short film with José Mojica Marin (Zé Do Caixão, or Coffin Joe) and a Brazilian cinema program in college. It’s definitely something I want to write about in the future. There’s lots of good people and untold stories in filmmaking, specially regarding Brasil’s “damned” generation of the 1960s and 70s.

I’m sure you know your Brazilian metal more than I do. What bands from our country would fit right in with the masters of crooked, alternative metal you interviewed for your book?

I am more of an enthusiast than anything, I don’t know more than anyone. Anyway, I’ve always had contact with the Brazilian underground from playing in a band for many years. It’s where you’ll find the best groups in our modern metal scene. Brazilian bands that I like and would fit in the book, active or not: Labirinto, Ruína, Noala, Crushing Darkness, Carahter, Elma, Saturndust [reviewed here], Jupiterian, Herod, O Cúmplice e Deaf Kids.

[I am a poser and only know 3 of these bands]

Tell us your favorite/most anticipated albums of 2015 so far.

I am eagerly awaiting for the new High On Fire with Kurt Ballou production once again, as well as the new Steve Von Till, which lately has been hitting the spot even more than Neurosis. Two of its songs are out and they have both ruined my day in the best way possible. There’s also the new Faith No More record on the horizon, which probably won’t be great but it’s a band I grew up listening to. I’m also constantly listening to the new records from Marriages and Godspeed You! Black Emperor that came out earlier this year. Oh, I’m also waiting for the new Deftones as well.

Do you have any crazy or lolbuttz stories to share? Could be something that happened in a concert or during an interview.

I think the funniest story is the one I told about the Shrinebuilder interview. Seriously, I was in the same room as Al Cisneros, Wino and Dale Crover with an entire series of questions about Neurosis. It ended up being an informal chat, with some good moments. I imagined they must have thought “this guy sucks!”, because I wasn’t prepared or anything. Anyway, the interview didn’t end up the way I’d want it to, of course, but it made me realize that, even though I was fresh out of college and had never officially written about metal, I had to pursue it on my own. Years later it resulted on the book and being able to write for CVLT Nation and Vice.


Luiz Mazetto is one of the most insightful interviewers in metal right now. He is the author of Nós Somos A Tempestade, a book you can purchase here, if you’re able to read Portuguese. He also collaborates with CVLT Nation (I’d recommend his interview with Emma Ruth Rundle here), Noisey/Vice and has his own personal page Contra Corrente.

This post is part of a series of articles featuring the perspective of people who are not primarily musicians but are still part of the metal community – photographers, illustrators, producers, promoters, roadies, you name it. You can read other entries in the series below:

Deaf Metalhead Shawn Vriezen
Illustrator Lauren Gornik
Photographer Jess Rechsteiner
Film director Drew Stone

(Photos via personal archive)

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  • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

    Books are for the weak-willed and stupid.

  • This is a great interview, Dagon. I really want to read this but I need to learn Portuguese first.

  • Also, am super jelly he got to interview Emma Ruth Rundle.

    • Dagon

      I am jelly of anyone that ever had anything to do with ERR.

  • Dean the P.I. Staker

    Good read. Though I understand where people derived the term, “alternative metal” is one classification I don’t want to touch with a ten foot pole. Too vague, too open, too mid-90’s funk and flannel sounding for my tastes.

    http://img.ifcdn.com/images/48f972d279e8cc0f01f75de32585973dc000016dd2f91af0c52c74a9bdda700b_1.jpg

    • Maik Beninton

      When I go to the wikipedia I find alternative metal to be heavy post-grunge.

      • Pagliacci is Kvlt O)))
        • JWG

          I find it weird that among Canadian heavy rock acts, finger eleven is still on there despite going much more poppy and new new wavy since the early 2000s, whereas I Mother Earth (which used to be on it I swear) got dropped by random editors despite getting progressively heavier in the same time frame.

        • Ahmed Johnson The Reef Eater

          Motley Crue did an album in 1997 which sounded like a poppy industrial metal band. It was called Generation Swine.

    • HessianHunter

      I feel you, which is part of the inspiration behind the noise rock post I made recently. Today Is The Day, Oxbow, and likeminded weirdos are “alternative” because of that influence, not rap/funk/90’s-lolbuttz.

      • Herr Schmitty

        OH SHIT GONNA GO SEE TODAY IS THE DAY FRIDAY, YESSSSSS. Might even get to harass Steve Austin all night, homey is crashing at my buddy’s crib afterward.

        • Pagliacci is Kvlt O)))

          That would be stone cold of you…

    • Dagon

      I get that, and i agree. The term alternative metal works better in Portuguese than in English for the purpose of this book, given that alt metal in America is associated with Helmet, Tool and other 90s bands.

      The misunderstanding could be solved by the sub genres themselves, the chapter titles are very informative. There’s one for sludge with Eyehategod, buzz oven and grief, and one for progressive sludge with Savannah bands Baroness, Mastodon and Kylesa. The division makes perfect sense when you compare their sound.

  • TheCheezFace

    How have I not heard about this until now? I’m so gonna read it.

  • Guacamole Jim

    Very interesting stuff here, Fish God! I wish I understood Portuguese, but until such time I’ll have to wait patiently for the English version.

    http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/cookie_monster_waiting.gif

  • The Beargod

    I remember when you mentioned this book sometime ago.

    Good imterview.

    • The Beargod

      If I find this book I shall acquire this and read it.

  • I’m guessing he also had to translate his interviews into Portuguese since most of the people he interviewed were English speaking.

    • Dagon

      Yeah. It’s hard work to translate something and still make it flow like a conversation. The book reads perfectly and it sounds like each interviewed artist has his own voice despite the translation, if that makes any sense.

      That’s one of its greatest achievements.

  • Spear

    Never have I wished more to know Portuguese. This sounds like an awesome book. Great interview, fishgodman.

  • This sounds awesome. I will add to the hordes of non-Portuguese-speakers here.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rjDwm4PMJY

  • Tyree

    READING IS GOOD.

    • Tyree

      Look here everyone! 7 Unconventional Reasons Why You Absolutely Should Be Reading Books

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/12/health-benefits-reading_n_4081258.html

      • MoshOff

        Don’t go to Huff Post

        • Herr Schmitty

          Sincere question: Which news outlets are acceptable? If we’re going by ‘Removes all bias as much as possible to the point of stripping all of the flavor out of the writing’ as a major criteria, then the only news source that I’m aware of with any degree of acceptability would be Al-Jazeera America…

          • The Blaze & The Daily Caller.

          • Herr Schmitty

            +1 bullet to my head.

          • Tyree

            Maybe there is a book out there about this. Books have the answers to all man.

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            Burn everything to the cunting void.

          • Willful ignorance is fun!

          • Herr Schmitty

            Hot take; being willfully ignorant is definitely a happier life, if shittiness bothers you (as it does/can bother me!) I’ve never been able to stay out of the news cycle for long, but I’m def a little bit happier when I take ‘breaks.’

            I rarely fuck around on computers/internet outside of work these days because the news… can take a toll psychologically.

          • “these days because the news… can take a toll psychologically”.

            Yes. They really do!

          • *pertinent*

            I am really looking forward to the next 18 months of political mud slinging. FUCK.

            GL

          • Herr Schmitty

            Pictured: Me. ETA: Note: I typed in Woo Fucking Hoo! looking for a meme that would fit this, and this fittingly was the #2 search result. Serendipity! http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/MjAxMi1hODRhYjg0M2FlMWQxZGY5.png

          • I am pretty sure my blood pressure rose 30 pts just typing the words election. Grrrrrrrr

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            Total suicide.

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            More books with titties!

          • “and cositos pics”…

            Am I doing it all right?

          • Herr Schmitty

            Y pics de chochas y Limons, senor! Chochas y limons!

          • Herr Schmitty

            To explain my other comment, I gotta post this to you here. I apologize for this bad song in advance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obv5Ho7MHXo

          • omg.

          • Herr Schmitty

            I’m very sorry. Please forgive me!

          • T-T) forgiven..

          • Herr Schmitty

            Ustedes un Santo, senor.

          • Herr Schmitty

            Half of this fucking book is imprinted in my head, and I’ve managed to kill the brain cells that used to know the other half with large quantities of marijuana. https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1426960389l/98430.jpg

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            A noose.

          • The Beargod

            Pravda, obvs.

          • Sir Tapir the Based™

            I get all my news from Iltapaska.

          • The Beargod

            Only Putin-news is real.

          • Ummm, I use spanish BBC version o-o) It’s the one I like!

          • Herr Schmitty

            Actually, BBC is good; the GF got me on the BBC America feed for a while!

          • Venezuela is a awful country to work in journalism. But they really nail it with the interviews and the news of the facts of the country, because they try to approach more with the citizenship, and not the goverment or the other politicians. So, I always trust in their information.

            The Comunication’Sociology classes really spoiled me with the media usage.

          • KJM

            Fox, of course. ^_^

          • I often tend to be more conservative – but – that shit Fox calls news is horrendous and embarrassing.

            GL

          • What’s the stuff with Fox? They’re pro-goverment?

            I mean, the politics dynamics in your country are waaay more different than here.

          • KJM

            They’re considered to be very far right-wing.

          • Herr Schmitty

            Not quite. They hate the Government when Republicans are not in charge. They love the government and expect you to do everything it says when Republicans are in charge.

            They also hate everyone that isn’t a white man. They also hate white men that are poor. It’s a channel for old, rich, angry white men that hate everyone different than them.

            My grandfather loves Fox News, he fits the above description perfectly.

          • woah, that’s awful. They just work for a tendency.

            Zchmitty, do you think U.S. is dominated by the corporations more than the goverment?

          • KJM

            Let me think about that for a second. YES.

          • Guacamole Jim
          • Look at that photo 😛

            “This man does not like to be disturbed while he’s running the US “

          • Also..

            Read the Argentina explanation. Change Argentina for Venezuela. It’s the same thing:

            “Cristina Kirchner’s sham populism – The government of Cristina Kirchner touts a populism that “redistributes wealth to benefit the poor”, writes Luis Alberto Romero in Agentina’s Clarin (translated by WorldCrunch).

            In reality, he says, “the outcome has been greater wealth concentrations and more social polarisation, helped by subsidy policies”.

            The Kirchner regime, he argues, has been “built on two foundations: concentration of power and accumulation of wealth”.

          • Herr Schmitty

            Yes. Rich white men with powerful corporations spend lots of money to make sure that the politicians inside the government do everything that the rich men want.

            Sometimes they lose, but usually they win and get their way. Guacamole Jim’s link is a good one. We changed the rules for elections here 5 or 6 years ago. We used to have rules that limited how much money each person could donate to politicians every year. Now you’re allowed to give unlimited money to politicians. The result is rich people (usually old white men) paying huge $$$$ to politicians, then the politicians pass laws that help the old white men in return.

            They win, most Americans lose.

          • Conclusion: life is a bitch.

            GL

          • Zhmitty, what do you think how will I be if I go to the US to live?

          • You need to move here Link.

            GL

          • The Beargod

            Come to Finland instead. You’ll be mugged but at least you’ll survive the beating.

          • Can I use the “that’s a paddlin’ phrase?

          • Sir Tapir the Based™

            Yes.

          • The Beargod

            Daily.

          • That’s a paddlin’!

            o.o)

          • Sir Tapir the Based™

            He needs to do that fast tho. Persut will close the border soon.

          • The Beargod

            After today I hate them even more.

          • Sir Tapir the Based™

            Something special happened?

          • The Beargod

            I read Sebastian Tynkkynen’s open letter to Krista Kosonen. It would habe been alright if it wasn’t full of shit coming from a party of homophobic rascists.

          • Sir Tapir the Based™

            Tynkkynen kyllä näyttää aika kovan luokan kuspäältä. Vetäisin turpaan/10

          • Herr Schmitty

            I think you would be OK! Unfortunately, I’d say that even as corrupt and negative as I think things are in the US, I’d say that you probably still have more/better opportunities in Los Estados Unidos than you currently have in Venezuela (I do not mean any offense or disrespect to Venezuela!) It seems like in Venezuela you have many of the same problems, but that they might be worse in Venezuela than in the USA.

            Here there is still poverty and inequality and unfairness, but here many of our poor still manage to eat enough to survive and there are ways to get some help. It’s very hard to rise through the ranks and become rich in the USA, but at least that opportunity still exists with hard work and a lot of good luck.

          • Thank you <3

            What do you thing are the best states to migrate of a latino?

          • Ahmed Johnson The Reef Eater

            NY! I’ll even let you live in my house and I can get you a job at my workplace!

          • Herr Schmitty

            If you want to find people who speak Spanish and can make it easier to transition to a new country? The southern parts of the USA. States like Florida, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California have large Spanish-speaking populations; in Miami Florida, some restaurants only have menus in Spanish and not in English (because the Spanish-speaking population, mostly Cubans and Mexicans, is so large). I learned all of my (bad) Spanish in Florida from having many friends from other countries.

            You would still want to keep working at English and enjoy some of the other bits of USA culture, but I think it would be easiest if there were lots of other people that you could speak Spanish with too. If I moved to a different country, I would feel more confident if I knew there were a lot of English speakers where I was going.

          • All the states in the US have certain independency between each other? Or they’re all centralized Venezuela-style in which they depend of the Goverment?

          • KJM

            A little of both. Remember what I said earlier about NYC? It’s easy to understand The US if you think of it as 50 separate countries that have a central office we group around. Many would argue(me being one) that states need more power to govern their own affairs because of their differences. However, in some instances, I believe the idea of a central authority has merit.

          • Woah, I’m still amazed on how different we are.

            I like the idea of descentralization since here, the mayors and the governors have less and less power because all the resources are giving and administred by the central goverment. And, of course, if in that formula you have a bad goverment you see it all in bad sight.

          • KJM

            Another thing that may interest you: The city I live in, Somerville, MA, is what’s known as a “sanctuary city”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city

          • Herr Schmitty

            Also another thing: KJM lives in a great neighborhood next to Boston, and the whole area around it is quite nice. Also, KJM is very nice! This is very important, Senor Link!

            Somerville would probably a good city to go to in Massachusetts; you get to ride the subway easily to Boston in just minutes, and there is a good size Spanish speaking population.

            Boston gets GREAT Merol shows.

          • To @KJMKerrAvon666:disqus too:

            so, this means that if I go to mr. KJM city, I will not get deported? I didn’t understood too much the wikia D:

          • Herr Schmitty

            Technically you still could, if you came illegally and snuck in, but it’s less likely to happen. Basically that wikia page is saying ‘The police and hospitals in the area don’t care if you’re legal or not, and they’re not trying to catch you and have you deported. They don’t mind if you’re legal or illegal if you’re a good person. However, if you got in a special kind of trouble, they could still deport you.”

          • KJM

            Exactly. Liberian dictator Charles Taylor thought he could hide in Somerville due to that status. He was wrong. However, since he was a CIA asset he ended up being broken out of prison.

          • Thanks a lot to all <3

            I will send more questions to you on the FB, brooo.

          • KJM

            This is my neighborhood in Somerville.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_Square

          • It’s beautiful :’)

            How’s the robberies and criminality there?

          • KJM

            In Davis Sq itself it’s very low. Occasionally you’ll get reports of unarmed bank robbery but they’re almost always caught. Violent crime is almost unheard of outside of the very occasional assault.
            The only true cause for concern is that the El Salvadoran gang MS13 does have a presence in Somerville. Some Haitian gangs do as well. However, compared to other cities in The US like East St Louis, Somerville is a pretty safe place to be.

          • If I ever go on a boat to the US. I hope I can visit you, KJM..

          • KJM

            It would take a very long time by boat. Come by plane if you can!

          • more beer

            As long as he sneaks in before Obama gives amnesty to all illegal aliens he will be fine.

          • KJM

            Yep! The US is still a great place to be despite it’s flaws and I’m pretty happy/lucky to be here.

          • KJM

            Come to Boston, Massachusetts!!

          • Ahmed Johnson The Reef Eater

            I told him to come to my house! It’s a nice area, I could get him a job at my workplace, we’re getting Testament and Exodus and other important things.

          • more beer

            I don`t remember Poughkeepsie being a really nice area.

          • Lacertilian

            Argh!
            Don’t bring religion into this political discussion, or the shit will blow the roof off.

          • Ahmed Johnson The Reef Eater

            I didn’t bring religion into this.

          • Lacertilian

            I was only joking JJD, you mentioned Testament & Exodus.
            I had to bite.

          • Ahmed Johnson The Reef Eater

            I didn’t know. It made for a good joke though.

          • Guacamole Jim
          • Herr Schmitty

            Oh jesus. On the plus side, I DO like this and thank you for linking it.

            On the other, though, I am now woefully depressed after merely reading the first page. I’m going to have to finish this later in a place where people won’t ask me why I’m crying 😛

          • Guacamole Jim

            haha yeah man. It’s pretty depressing to get through at times, but an excellent take on the current state of US (and Canadian, and really all of “Western”) society. And the author does come out of it with an inspiring message, so there is some light at the end of the tunnel.

          • KJM
          • Dagon

            Fox News is virtually the only conservative/Republican friendly news outlet in the U.S. THE REST IS ALL 50 SHADES OF COMMUNIST RED

            FREE AMERICA

          • KJM

            Listen at 300% volume.

          • STUPID MASONS WITH ALL THEIR EQUALITY IDEAS.

            BLOW THEM ALL!

          • KJM

            Agenda 21!! Angels don’t play this HAARP!

          • KJM

            I actually don’t watch any TV news. I use Twitter as a news feed: NYT, Boston Globe, New England cable News, BBC, stuff like that.

          • FOX NEWS ALERT: GLOBAL WARMING IS STILL FAKE
            FOX NEWS ALERT: ILLUMINATI ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11
            FOX NEWS ALERT: LIBERALS SMASH BABIES HEADS.

            They need to give it a break/quit/10

          • Agreed. That last one is true tho.

          • KJM

            Hey! I haven’t smashed a baby head in at least 3 months! Give me some credit here!

          • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

            Killing babies is neat.

          • Gotta turn in your commie card, KJM.

          • Turn in your commie card?
            Thats a paddlin’

            MA

          • KJM

            Let me go to the park now. I think I can find a baby.

          • Oh I agree. I was just pandering to the masses.

          • Furthermore: how can a whole wing of people deny climate change? How long do you think they will try to hold out?

            “NOPE DER EARTH DOESN’T WARM UP WHEN WE EXPLICITLY RELEASE A METRIC FUCK TON OF CARBON. NOPE”

            Good God.

            GL

          • This is something that causes me to lose sleep at night.

          • The worst part is the longer the screw around with denying gay marriage and climate change the worse time they will have digging themselves out of the gigantic hole they dug. What a waste of time.

            Stupid people, man.

            Also, I work with full grown-ass-men (lol) with PhD’s who wholely believe climate change is illogical. It is ridiculous.

            GL

          • Herr Schmitty

            That to me is one of the most fascinating issues; THEY KNOW IT’S ACTUALLY HAPPENING. I work in insurance. Many businesses are doing things with their insurance plans to insure against the flooding expected to come with climate change and rising sea levels. Some of these businesses are the ones with conservative corporate leadership that donates to candidates who say “CLIMATE CHANGE ISN’T REAL, DEREGULATE AND ALLOW MORE POLLUTION FOR PROFIT!” while simultaneously preparing their business as though the flood will be next week.

            They know it’s going to happen. They just want to make as much $$$ as possible before it does to maximize profits. Not sure what the plan is beyond that. The rich all congregate on the best remaining land after we finish fucking the earth? BUT WHO WILL WORK THEN?!

            http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2014/05/20/some-companies-adjusting-stronger-storms-and-severe-weather/wgsC3tV105MOdAQIU7J0YI/story.html

          • BLOODBEARDE

            This is why I’m glad I live thousands of feet above sea level

          • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

            Schmitty, I am genuinely baffled by climate change denial. Sustainability even makes sense from a long-term profit standpoint. Is it just the business of making money now rather than later?

          • Herr Schmitty

            It does make sense; with good sustainable practices, it would reduce operating costs and increase profit margins in the future.

            As you say, I believe it’s just about maximizing profits THIS YEAR RIGHT NOW to make it look like you’re doing a good job as an exec. Nobody wants to voluntarily reduce profits for a year or two while updating their business’ infrastructure (which most assuredly can be expensive and time consuming), even if that will ultimately pay larger long-term dividends.

          • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

            Its never actually about the truth with these people. its all about getting the masses to believe their bullshit so they can continue to manipulate the rules behind the scenes to increase profits…)watch my left hand.).

          • Dagon

            Global warming is part of the same UN agenda to dominate the world via global socialism. It started with smoking bans and now global warming and hm stuff.

          • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

            I like Al jazeera 😉

          • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

            and FUCK ALL MEDIA!

  • KJM
  • “Mazetto with “Fábio Massari”, the “reverend” of alternative music journalism in Brasil”. We all know this is a lie. We all know Dagon is the reverend of music journalism in Brasil.

    I really like this series of interviews, since I’m not a musician or promoter, just a enthusiast. And this interview was perfect, since I can relate on the journalism side of the interviewed.

    Mazetto said this: “On the other hand, some of these artists, perhaps even many of them,
    don’t want to be labeled as a metal band, or with any other genre tag,
    really, which can be unappealing to a more traditional metal audience”. And I can agree with him. In fact, this reminded me of the yesterday debate of which is new Tribulation’s record genre, and I said that to me it was tagged in my media player as melodic deth merol just to me. Now, with the Mazetto quote I can remember that the artists don’t like to be tagged, unless they need to be tagged for comercial/logistical reasons; and the tags I use I do it because I just want to categorize my music acording to my mindset and what “vibe” I need at the moment.

    Thanks for this, brolo!

  • HessianHunter

    I’m gonna glue a French dictionary to a Spanish dictionary and hit them both with a hammer until they smash together into a Portuguese dictionary so I can read this book. The list of bands interviewed is outrageously cool.

  • HessianHunter

    I’ve never heard of Grief before. Did I fuck up? Sum1 halp me pls

    • is 2 slow 4 me

      • Dagon

        How u feel ’bout Crowbar, Joey?

        • I liek teh Crowbarz. The guitar tone just works for me.

          • Dagon

            They are one of the sludge bands that play closer to the hardcore influences than the doom ones.

        • KJM

          Saw them open for S.O.D. back in 1999, great show.

        • The Beargod

          How could someone not like Crows’ bar?

    • The Beargod

      You dun goofed.

    • Dean the P.I. Staker

      Seriously? Check out the album Come to Grief. I’m only an occasional sludge fiend, but Grief is one of my jams. “Earthworm” is a good taste of their sound:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alYiwTTlClM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  • Dr. Dubz

    Great interview, Dagon. You the best.

  • BLOODBEARDE

    I love sitting in parking lots waiting for customers and getting paid to read ToH

    • In fact, since I’m procrastinating a lot in the ToH, in my work they really pay me to read, write and discuss here.

    • Dean the P.I. Staker

      You dealing?

      • BLOODBEARDE

        Slangin’ glass bro, 6 days a week!

        literally glass . . . not the drug

  • BLOODBEARDE

    I can’t stop listening to this album. Wish I had known about it last year.
    http://youtu.be/gEaYwyGa9fA

    • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

      They have a new one out too!

      • BLOODBEARDE

        Its a tour EP. I got it tho 😉

  • Celtic Frosty

    Very interesting interview. This is a great idea for a book. I’m looking forward to digging into those Brazilian bands he mentioned.

  • Maik Beninton

    Hey @dagonthefishgod:disqus, do you know a good Brazilian metal website? I’ve only been on Whiplash, and there is almost nothing good on there.

  • Great interview, Dagon. Good stuff 🙂

  • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

    Cool stuff! and Thank You is an excellent Zep song..always loved that one.

  • Sickboy666

    Great interview!