From the Vaült – Dope’s “Life”

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Like all other genres, nu metal had different tiers. But which bands fall under which tier?

The first tier were the top bands. The bands that headlined festivals, made the most money, and received the most attention. We could probably all agree that bands like Korn, Disturbed, Godsmack, Rob Zombie, Slipknot, and System Of A Down would fit into this tier.

The second tier would be bands that had a decent amount of attention, but weren’t quite household names. I mean, if people talked about nu metal in their houses. These bands would play one of the earlier slots on the main stage at Ozzfest and get a mention on the cover of Kerrang or Circus. They had some notoriety, but wouldn’t dominate the t-shirts of the weirdos hanging outside of Hot Topic. Bands like Mudvayne, Soulfly, Sevendust, and Papa Roach.

It’s the third and fourth tier where things start to get a little muddy. Maybe you’ve heard of the name or can kind of sing the chorus to the single, but can’t really remember much more. Bands like Ill Nino, Cold, Spineshank, Nonpoint, and Mushroomhead.

When you get into the fourth tier of nu metal, you’ll find bands like Pushmonkey, Unloco, Page 999, Motograter, Know Ethix, Depswa, Apartment 26, Endo, No One, Sw1tched, and SoundLife. I made up a few of those band names, but I can guarantee that some people won’t be able to guess which ones are fake. That’s the quality of music.

Today’s edition of From The Vault focuses on a band that fits somewhere between the third and fourth tier: Dope. Yeah, you’ve probably heard the name before, but might not be able to place it. Let’s do a little multiple choice and see if you can guess the true “fact” about the band:

a) A band that featured 2 brothers with “Dope” as their last name.

b) A former band of the guy from StaticX that spent a year in jail for having sex with a 14 year-old in a parking lot.

c) A band with clever song titles like “Die MF Die”, “Shit Life”, “Bitch” and “Die Boom Bang Fuck.”

d) A band that covered N.W.A‘s “Fuck Tha Police.”

e) All of the above.

If you chose “E” then congratulations. I guess.

Believe it or not, Dope has released 5 albums, but their most well-known is “Life”. Life actually made it onto the Billboard Top 200 and Number 6 on the Heatseekers chart back when that still actually kind of meant something. Another amazing fact is that, to date, this album has sold over 70,000 copies. There are plenty of “internet famous” metal bands today that would kill for ½ of those album sales. Say what you will about nu-metal, but people used to pay money to listen to it. Shockingly, Dope never appeared on Ozzfest. Somewhere, Slaves On Dope (NSFW, awesome nu-metal bewbs) are laughing.

Dope’s music can best be described as “angsty bedroom-metal for teens that think Marilyn Manson is industrial music”. Vocalist/band namesake Edsel Dope’s voice is unique in the sense that“sounding like you constantly have a head-cold” is different from everyone else. I’d say that the appreciation of his vocals fall into two groups: “People who hate it” and “people who tolerate it.” The guitars and drums are pretty much what you would expect from this era. Most riffs could probably fit under our Whiff o’ the Week. There are keys and samples, which help break up the monotony. When you can actually hear them, of course.

The album has two stand-out tracks, but for vastly different reasons. “Now or Never” is the closest thing that Dope ever had to an actual hit. They had a video for it and everything, complete with jumping, black clothes, stupid hair, and people far too pretty to be at a Dope concert.

The song is fairly catchy, hitting the pre-chorus right around 30 seconds. Got to get to the sing-along parts as fast as possible. Admittedly, it’s a pretty catchy chorus with simple lyrics and melody that easily get stuck in your head. It’s as if a real producer took them aside and said, “I only have 5 minutes. Do this, this, and this and you’ll have a hit.” When Nine Inch Nails’ “We’re In This Together” is too expensive to procure the rights for your action movie, use this song. It’s perfect for the trailer.

The other standout on Life is “Die MF Die”. Want to take a guess what the “MF” stands for? It’s definitely not “Monkey Fun” or “Mercyful Fate.”

Listen to those drums! It’s like someone pawed through Lars Ulrich’s trash and picked out the snare with the biggest hole in it. Upon further inspection, the music actually sounds somewhat similar to Sepultura’s “Roots Bloody Roots”. If you’re going to rip off Sepultura, at least rip off one of their better songs. The real key to this song, though, is the lyrics. Here’s a sample of this modern-day Shakespeare:

“I don’t need your forgiveness

I don’t need your hate

I don’t need your acceptance

So what should I do

I don’t need your resistance

I don’t need your prayers

I don’t need your religion

I don’t need a thing from you

I don’t do what I’ve been told

You’re so lame why don’t you

Just go

Die mother fucker die mother fucker die”

If you found that scrawled inside a high school sophomore’s notebook, you’d leave an anonymous tip with the local police department. The rest of the album is pretty much the same, with varying degrees of “success.”

In 2001, Dope’s “Life” managed to fit in with similar acts that straddled the line between hard rock and industrial. Most of the songs are straight fastballs with simple riffs and even simpler lyrics. Today, Life comes off as a relic from a different time, one that we can all look back at, shake our heads and say, “Well, I guess that happened.”

It may come as a surprise, but Dope is back with the promise (threat?) of a new album soon. Just this week, they premiered a new video, I guess because dying genres still use dying mediums to get their music out to the public. Their website is still active as is Edsel Dope’s Twitter. Holy crap on cracked wheat, Edsel Dope has 39.4k followers? He could be a Kardashian brother with those numbers. Dope is also playing Russia at the end of September. Hopefully the Russians like their brand of metal better than Behemoth. Perhaps “Die MF Die” can bridge the divide between Russian and Ukraine, bringing both nations together in an everlasting peace.

To paraphrase Ned Flanders, “Godspeed, little Dope.”

You can listen to “Life” by Dope in it’s entirety here.

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  • Perkele

    ““angsty bedroom-metal for teens that think Marilyn Manson is industrial music”.” Thank you for stating this.

  • I like Dope. Fight me.

    Edit: Not the new song though. That’s almost as bad as disturbed’s divide.

    • Christian Molenaar

      Stay Tech!

      • I am trying but tyree keeps hooking me on all these good grindcore bands.

        • Tyree

          More to come. Because, Tonight… You.
          http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/477998/tonight-you-o.gif

          • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

            maybe my favorite episode, and that is saying something considering just about every episode is classic. These 10 minute cartoons (thats what they called em in the 70’s and i ain’t changin’) are the perfect length to watch over and over endlessly.

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            Hey Conan. What cartoon is that?

          • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

            aqua teen hunger force.

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            Thanks, man I couldn’t place it.

    • I’d say “leave the hall,” but you haven’t been anywhere near the hall for a long, long time.

      • I can obliterate the hall with the snap of a finger. I’m not worried. I guess saying I like dope is inaccurate. I like some dope. Debonaire is a fun song.

        • Randall Thor

          THE HALL IS INSIDE OUR HEARTS, WARRIOR. YOU MAY ENTER OR LEAVE WHEN YOU PLEASE, AND YOUR HEART WILL BE ENGULFED WITH THE MIGHTY POWER OF THE DRAGONFLAME. YOU MAY DESTROY OUR PHYSICAL HALL, BUT YOU CAN NEVER SNUFF OUT THE DRAGONFLAME.

          • I honestly can’t hate on you for liking this comment yourself.

          • Perkele

            But I can.

          • Randall Thor

            SOMETIMES MY POSTS ARE SO MIGHTY THAT THE GREAT SAGE OF THE INTERNET BESTOWS UPVOTES UPON ME

          • Xan

            You write some of the shit my friend and I do. In our senior year of high-school, we recorded 15 power metal albums because we had nothing to do. The quality of each is about that of the demo and they are all mixed incorrectly but we wrote some pretty power metal lyrics, though, the later albums started to devolve into dick jokes and having sex with legless men.

      • Inhabitants of the hall tremble at the word Jack Bauer utters under his breath as he sulks out through the Great Doors.

        “ᴬʳᶜʰˢᵖᶦʳᵉ”

        • Perkele

          What’s the hall?

          • Peasant.

          • Perkele

            Console gamers?

          • I used this earlier, but it is again relevant: http://i.imgur.com/mHM3DMk.gif

          • Perkele

            Is that a good or a bad thing?

          • It’s only a really really really bad thing if you reply to everyone in this thread.
            <3

          • Perkele

            I’ll be leaving then

          • I’m just messing with you lol.

          • Perkele

            Too late, I’m already gone.

          • Perkele

            Jaack, I’m gone now. You can’t see my comments.

          • Perkele

            Let me go Jack!

          • Perkele

            Jack, please don’t touch me there! That’s my special place!

          • Perkele

            I need an adult!

          • i still haven’t seen all the series of Doctor Who, but i picked up Day of the Doctor on 3D blu-ray, it’s pretty fuckin rad! what’d you think of that one?

          • I recently binge watched it. Now I’m watching it again right away. I absolutely love the show. The Day of the Doctor was great just like every other episode.

          • Randall Thor

            I quit in Season 7, couldn’t do it anymore. I don’t know if it was the binging or just the writing sucks after Season 4 or what, but I am repulsed at the idea of trying to start it back up, even though I’m interested in the plot and everything.

          • I can’t believe I didn’t think to add “Doctor Who” to the spam filter.

          • Randall Thor
          • Casual.

          • Perkele

            Who even likes Manowar?

          • Non-wimps, non-posers, etc.

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            Hahaha

          • Manobore amirite?

          • Randall Thor

            TO BE BORED BY MANOWAR IS TO IDENTIFY ONESELF AS ONE OF THE FALSE. THERE IS STILL HOPE. TO ACHIEVE TRUE METAL REDEMPTION, YOU MUST LISTEN TO THE DISCOGRAPHY OF MANOWAR NO LESS THAN TWICE. YOU CAN SKIP THE RE-RECORDINGS AND THE LORD OF STEEL, BECAUSE THEY KIND OF SUCK.

          • Randall Thor

            As a fangirl, are you upset that the new Doctor isn’t totally hot?

          • Nah, that’s what clara is there for.

          • yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

          • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

            yea, the companions have always been reasonably attractive even in the 70’s. Of course my question was, is the doctor engaging in physical contact with them. There was never any sign of that in the 70’s or 80’s series. Of course in my perverse mind anything was possible in space. Except there was a whole series where a 12 year boy tagged along killing my libidinous thoughts and fantasies. My challenge to DR. fans – watch every single episode of Who ever made from the 60’s to today.

          • David Tennant is a human gif factory.

          • Randall Thor

            ONLY THE MIGHTIEST AND TRUEST OF HEROES!

          • Perkele

            I think you misspelled “nerds and posers”.

          • Randall Thor

            HAIL AND KILL, MINE BROTHER!

          • Xan

            HUZZAH!

          • hitting play on the first Manowar song i’ve ever heard.

          • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

            Now we are talking, this is the perfect music for fighting the demonic hordes of thoth amon !

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I like that artwork. That was the artwork for Beatin The Odds by Molly Hatchet. When it comes to southern rock I prefer Molly Hatchet over Skynyrd any day. Hell, I prefer the band Outlaws over Skynyrd. The only song I love by Lynyrd Skynyrd is Free Bird. On the other hand, all of the Molly Hatchet albums up until the one from 1984 were good and then the albums from 1996 onward were good as well. Outlaws had some good albums up until 1982 and after that they got bad. The one from 2012 with one original member is the worst southern rock album I have ever heard. The only albums from MH that were bad were the one from 1984 and the one from 1989. Besides those two I enjoy their albums.

    • Virgil the Ghost Poet

      I like Dope too.

      • Janitor Jim Duggan

        I enjoy the new song. It’s much better than the new Limp Bizkit single and much better than all the other risecore and brocore bands like Emmure and FFDP. Hell, I enjoyed it more than the new Slipknot singles.

    • Sponge Of Mystery

      i too enjoy Dope, No Regrets was my fav album

  • Tyree

    There was once a time in my life when I thought these bands were all the greatest and heaviest. Then a friend of mine in middle school let me listen to Slayer and I was reborn as Tyree.

    • Howard Dean

      Was it Lysol?

      • Tyree

        Indeed it was, Lysol changed my life for the better. He helps me clean too.

        • Janitor Jim Duggan

          I hate to admit it, but Queensryche’s output from after Promised Land made me turn away from nu metal and listen to more progressive and much better metal like Behemoth, Slayer, Mayhem and Iron Maiden. Hear in the Now Frontier and Q2K used to be albums I disliked immensely. I’ve grown to appreciate those albums much more with their stripped down arrangements and desolate sound. I still listen to nu metal yet I am more likely to listen to Slayer and Behemoth when I want to hear metal now instead of Limp Bizkit or Korn.

      • FeelTheDarkness
        • Fart Johnson

          I saw the Melvins end a show with Hung Bunny/Roman Bird Dog about 15 years ago and the venue started crumbling from the volume and low frequencies.

    • The Satan Ov Nvklear Hell

      Same here!

      • Tyree

        I thought the song “Dig” was the heaviest song ever at one time.

    • Xan

      I was fairly lucky in my introduction to metal. The first metal I ever heard was on the Saw soundtracks. It had a mix between a lot of Nu metal as well as some other decent bands. The first full albums I heard was Dismembered’s “Like an Ever Flowing Stream”. That shit was great.

      • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

        Entombed and dismember were two of the first death metal bands i got into heavily. Dismember stayed heavy to the end, entombed kind of fucked up with that same difference album ( i don’t now what they were thinking with that one) and it pretty much derailed all they had built to that point. Unfortunate.

    • Max

      [“Get off my lawn” moment incoming:]

      Nu-metal actually makes me glad I’m old. Back in my day, you had to go straight from radio rock cluelessness to Slayer. No “gateway drugs” for us, kiddies!

      By the time nu-metal came along, I was already knee-deep in music that boasts about 3 or 4 times the technique, creative scope, tempo and general coolness that rap-rock has. Even the much-vaunted, they’re-actually-not-that-bad Slipknot sounded pretty underwhelming to me. Think of how much time and money I saved transitioning from “bad music” to “good music” while cutting out the “pretend good music” middleman!

      “Good ole days” brag concluded.

      • Tyree

        I’m Jealous. I had to listen to some terrible shit that I thought was good.

        • Max

          I’m relieved you’re not offended by me crowing about the “good ole days.” Rest assured I’m fully aware that having a Gen-Xer reminisce to you about the heyday of Slayer et al is probably just as annoying as having a baby boomer tease me about missing out on The Beatles. I used to hate that; and I need to remind myself that to you guys, Seasons In the Abyss may very well sound just as dated as Sergeant Pepper does to me.

          But in this case I just couldn’t resist; because in forums like this or MetalSucks, whenever there’s an article about a nu-metal act trying to make a comeback, so many of the Gen-Ys pitch in with the “gateway drug”-type remark: “Back when MTV was all I had, Korn opened my eyes to what else is out there if you dig deeper; sure they suck but I’ve got a soft spot for ’em… etc.” Not to be condescending, but it is always kinda funny. But I DO sympathize, man!

          The good news for everybody is that with the rise of YouTube, gateway drugs are no longer needed. You kids probably discover 10 times as much good music in day as I do in a month. And more fucking power to you for that, say I.

          Full disclosure: I do actually own one Korn CD. I just read it for the articles, of course; not the smutty pictures.

      • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

        Tripp Eisen former member of dope, static x & murderdolls was convicted in 2005 for having intercourse with a female child aged 15 years. He was sentenced to a year but did 8 months. Three years later he broke his probation and went in for another year. A real fucking piece of excrement. Should be hung from the nearest tree. And all the music he has done has been fucking shit as well. He was also in a band called roughhouse in 1988 ( signed to CBS/Columbia records) So to say this turd hasn’t had ample opportunities to “make it” in the music industry is putting it lightly. I was older like you and spied korn and slipknot as garbage right away in 94 and 98 respectively. We are the lucky ones my friend, time was on our side.

        • Janitor Jim Duggan

          I don’t like him and I never have. At the very least he brought down Dope and Static X when he was in them. At least when he was no longer in either band the bands got better. When he left Dope after the album Life they made a great album in Group Therapy and an ever better album in No Regrets. American Apathy was decent for what it was yet it was still a letdown compared to Group Therapy. When he left Static X after their 2005 record they made an album that was a real return to form for them called Cannibal. I disagree with most metal lovers when it comes to nu metal as I love it and most metal lovers hate it.

        • Janitor Jim Duggan

          Also, have you ever seen the Queensryche MTV Unplugged special Conan? I’m watching it at the moment and was wondering if it was any good. It’s from 1992 and even though I have heard good things about it I have never seen it.

          • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

            I really haven’t listened to queensryche since empire. I never owned operation, i did have rage for order and the warning. I found rage for order very strange, the single i wanna get close to you was a cover of a song originally done by canadian female artist dalbello. She did a duet with tate that was bizarre to say the least. I thought the whole production of the album was odd too. Around the time of empire i started listening to fates warning ass well, actually think they were just as good as QR musically , although tate’s vocals were better, he was really one of the top vocalists in the metal game back then.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I love Fates Warning. I enjoyed Perfect Symmetry and No Exit more than most progressive metal albums. I don’t compare Fates Warning and Queensryche as they are two different styles from the same genre. Fates Warning reminds me of a technical band like King Crimson that is really underrated outside its genre. Queensryche reminds me of a band like Yes or ELP that was popular once and had a bit of a downturn commercially and critcially after a certain album yet made a return to form. The returns to form would be the self titled from last year by QR, 90125 by Yes and the live albums by ELP that they release constantly from past eras of the band.

        • Max

          We are indeed the lucky ones, bro.

          That said, there’s a great quote from writer Terry Carr: “The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.”

          Which equally applies to music, except I’d put the age at 16 or so. What Carr meant was that very often, our perception of the “quality creative watershed” period is based upon how young and impressionable we were at time.

          That’s why, as I said to Tyree above, I don’t like to crow about the “good ole days” too much, nor sit through baby boomers telling me all about Woodstock. How good was it all, really?

          But yeah, it is interesting how often Gen-Ys reared on nu-metal do seem to come around to the proposition that there is actually better stuff than what they were first exposed to, when for the rest of us it’s an open and shut case. But then, let’s face it: nu-metal always was one of the “lesser” genres. Depending on how you judge music, anyone can hear that a top-tier nu-metal band is still only about as good as a mid-tier death metal one. And that’s being kind.

          • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

            very kind indeed. And personally i never tire of stories of old people talking about seeing zeppelin. Some people lie about what they have seen , but with the enthusiasm they tell something i can tell who is falsifying information and not. One of my sister’s ex boyfriends lied so much about what he had seen that it got down right embarassing to be around him because when you are around metal heads one of them is going to know the history of a band back to front.

      • Janitor Jim Duggan

        I had gateway drugs into music, metal especially. Nu metal like Dope and Mushroomhead helped me form more opinions on heavier metal. Had I never listened to nu metal I would have listened to hair metal and other poppy types of metal for the rest of my life. Hell, 311 also guided my opinions of rock and their self titled made me get into nu metal more than I would have.

        • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

          It depends when you were born and also if you had any older siblings, uncles , aunts, friends of the family, older friends who can play you the good old shit. My parents didn’t listen to anything more than top 40 radio. I had no one, i was an only child with friends my own age, no one knew shit about music , certainly knew nothing about good rock/metal music. So i had to learn myself, trial and error.

          • Max

            Which is what I did too, although it must be said: although it might be a “trial” to listen to at first, there isn’t much “error” on an Earache compilation album from 1990, is there? (My first extreme metal record was the Grindcrusher compilation.) So that certainly helped in my case.

          • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

            No, that is like music dropped into your lap by the metal gods themselves !

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            My parents listened to top 40 crap and my sister listened to scene garbage and still does. I had only myself and a few other friends to rely on for finding metal. I’m very lucky to have even found nu metal because had that never happened I’d be stuck listening to top 40 garbage.

        • Max

          Sure, everybody’s got different tastes. I certainly wouldn’t want to say your experience has no validity. If you like it, you like it!

      • Fart Johnson

        To be fair a lot of that was a function of there being fewer choices plus MTV actually playing the occasional Slayer or Napalm Death video alongside Mutha’s Day Out and Candlebox.

        • Max

          Oh definitely; that’s exactly my point, really. Let’s face it: for a lot of people, MTV was the first point of contact with louder music, for better or worse. I won’t begrudge anybody their fond memories of what they were exposed to there. And I’m not gonna pretend that I just woke up one day and started writing to underground fanzines or something. Nobody is ever that cool when they start out.

  • i just wanted to share that i am LOLing very hard at the following image:
    http://www.toiletovhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Do+you+have+a+neck+beard+Given+that+around+40+_7903e92f99924667c85401831712d62a-385×300.jpg
    (it’s relevant because this article links to that one)
    It’s a thing of beauty.

  • Randall Thor

    LIFE x PROBLEMS x CORE

    • Randall Thor

      This is what I assume everyone who writes “YOU CAN’T JUDGE ME NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME” lyrics looks like http://cdn.emgn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/no-ragrets-1.jpg

      • Janitor Jim Duggan

        I cannot tell if this person is a female or a male. The face looks like a guy but the hair and the necklace make it look like a girl. Also, I hate these people that wear snapback hats that shouldn’t ever wear them. If you can pull off wearing hats please go ahead and wear any kind of hat, but if you can’t pull it off don’t ever wear a hat.

        • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

          what bothers me is i used to like wearing hats, now all they have is these fucking goofy looking hats. I hate truckers hats too. I want a baseball style hat with a zepp or floyd logo. Flex fit, fits close to the hit , no flat rims, i hate those hats that stand up high on the head like abe lincoln too.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            When it comes to hats I like something that is a bit fancier than a trucker hat or a snapback. I like golfer caps because they are a bit cooler and much better to wear than a backwards trucker hat or a snapback. I hate the wearing of hats backwards or any direction other than to the front of your head. It’s just a terrible idea and it makes you look like a tool.

        • J.R.

          My lady stole my hat from me yesterday. Spent all day wandering the woods of Desoto state park with some killer tunes and no hat. It needs to be replaced though. The hat, not K-menace. It’s a 7 year old OA hat I got when we first joined our Lodge. Its a raggedy rag… but I can’t get rid of it. You hat people will get me. The bond between man and hat, the memories of toiling away under the hot southern sun, swatting insects to protect fairer female folk, emergency napkin/Frisbee/sieve.

    • Howard Dean

      PEOPLE = SHIT

  • CÖÄL RÖLL FRÖM THE TÖILET BÖWL

    I can’t wait to see the commentary that this one cultivates

  • Sight Vnseen

    The first ten seconds of that video was awsome. I owe you an upvote.

  • Edward Meehan

    I think Papa Roach was a top tier nu metal band. They got a lot of radio play for a few of their tracks and lots of “regular” people were fans of them.

    • they stole that cool iron maiden riff

      • Randall Thor

        You mean the riff from Genghis Khan?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoqMYbsh_qw

        • negative good buddy. that “last resort” song uses the main riff from “hallowed be thy name”

          • Tyree
          • ah! now i know what my nightmares will be like tonight.

          • Tyree

            A whole lot of awful happening in that song.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            My nightmares will consist of what Geoff Tate looks like now. What the hell happened to him? He used to be extremely handsome and have a voice that made him the Rob Halford of progressive metal. Now he’s bald, looks like a clone of Kerry King and really has about as shot of a voice as Ozzy. Unlike Ozzy though Tate doesn’t try to make music to adjust to his voice being shot. At least Sabbath made music that could adjust to Ozzy’s current singing.

          • Elite Extremophile

            and if you tune down sabbath’s stuff it just sounds more sabbath-y so it doesn’t seem like ozzy can’t hit the notes. But we know when tatesryche does it (if and when he does). We know.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            From what I read on his band’s website and some other metal site (don’t worry it wasn’t MS) his band that recorded that unspeakably bad album from last year is working on a trilogy of albums that has one giant concept. I feel that if him and his band put in even a tiny amount of effort it could be decent. I’m hoping he puts in a serious amount of effort because if he does he could really create something great.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            It could be worse. Watch the music video for Smooth Criminal by Alien Ant Farm and you’ll have nightmares for weeks because of it pure shittiness.

          • Randall Thor

            Bro, u srs?

            Genghis Khan, @ 1:45

          • ah! there it is. you win!

          • Randall Thor

            On the bright side, we both got to listen to Iron Maiden as a result, so a win-win really

          • yes, and now i’m listening to “Die For Metal” by Manowar and LOLing.

        • Cock of Steele

          PAPA ROACH SHALL BE TERMINALLY, UNDENIABLY, AND BRUTALLY FLUSHED FOR THEIR HERESY

      • Edward Meehan

        On Last Resort?

  • W.

    Debonair is a guilty pleasure.

    • I wanted to know what that song was for the longest fucking time after watching the original fast and furious.

    • Janitor Jim Duggan

      I like that song as well. It wasn’t at the level of a Mushroomhead or a Powerman 5000 single but it was still good compared to a lot of nu metal bands. I believe that Queensryche might have done better if they had adopted the sound of bands from the nu metal genre for Hear in the Now Frontier instead of going for the sound of grunge which was outdated by the time HITNF came out. It still wouldn’t have been as good as their peak but it would be better than a lot of their output from Promised Land onward.

  • Janitor Jim Duggan

    I used to be into Dope at one point but then I got sick of them. They say they have a new album coming out called Blood Money that has been delayed multiple times. When it comes to the kind of nu metal Dope does I prefer the way Hed PE does it compared to the way Dope does it. I like Motograter much more than current Dope music. I hated Motograter much more than I expected once I listened to their one album.

  • Squibble Skwonk

    The new single’s a lot better if you imagine him screaming “I’M SHELLFISH!” in the chorus.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdt1ffD0blY

    • Janitor Jim Duggan

      When was this released? I honestly had no clue they released a new single. It must be from their new album Blood Money which comes out next year. I liked their last album from 2009 and they really did some good songs on that album and the albums before it. They are a band that rarely has filler and their worst album American Apathy in my opinion isn’t really terrible, it’s just mediocre compared to their usual above average work compared to most nu metal bands in their tier. Hell, I’d put them as second tier along with Powerman 5000 and Mushroomhead. Bands like the ones listed and bands like Trapt, Adema and Orgy are third tier as they only have one or two in the case of Trapt and Orgy. Adema has no songs I remember yet are third tier due to their singer’s relation to Jon Davis. I actually regret that Trapt is coming near me because I want to see them perform their self titled hit album in full as I enjoyed it back in the day. I consider Dope, PM5K and Mushroomhead three of the best nu metal bands and better than bands like Soulfly or Papa Roach.

      • Squibble Skwonk

        They just put it out a couple of days ago. I have a soft spot for dope because they were one of the first rock bands I ever got into, right alongside slipknot and disturbed. They aren’t favorites of mine anymore but I still enjoy them when I’m in the mood.

    • Or “I sell fish!”

      • Squibble Skwonk

        If I were photoshop-savvy I’d whip something clever up with all of this, but I’m not. So instead I’m just picturing Edsel Dope wearing a sailor outfit and selling fish.

  • Xan

    Eh, this is not really my cup of tea. I’ve listened to this song about 10 times today though – I love Dio’s beautiful voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPda29PbLM4

    • CONAN THE MOTHERFUCKING KING

      I never got to see DIO live so i am making up for it by buying everything i don’t have they he sang on. By the way his best album is strange highways, its like dehumanizer part 2, just as good, phenomenal production and heavy as fuck. Astoundingly good.

      • Xan

        My love for Dio was a strange one. I first listened to him when I was first getting into metal when I was perusing the Black Sabbath catalogue and I really enjoyed Mob Rules so I listened to some of his stuff on YouTube. I never got interested in him throughout high school but about a year and a half ago my musical tastes started to mature when I began listening to old school death metal and now I pretty much everything Dio has done. I love the album covers in particular. I am a sucker for that style.

      • Janitor Jim Duggan

        I tried getting into Strange Highways but I never could. The best album that wasn’t the original four albums of his was Magica. That was one of the best albums Dio ever did with any band.

  • J.R.

    So metal “gateway drugs” eh? not much of a music identity up until 7th grade. mostly country music or whatever the parents played on the radio in the car. first radio station I found when we moved east was a Christian Rock station, so that was basically all I listened to. Skillet, TFK, totally heavy. My neighbor and I would play halo 3 to BFMV and Breaking Benjamin and maaaaaan was that brutal. Also I would stay up way late and GMC would have a “heavy metal” christian rock music video hour. so that was great.
    somewhere from that I think it was browsing iTunes and opening stuff with “hardcore” album art during my edgy highschool days, which evolved into…what I like today I guess.

    TL:DR: country->christian rock->BFMV->Oh,Sleeper tier stuff->Kamelot->power/black/folk/prog/.

    and babymetal.

    I am kidding.

    • Janitor Jim Duggan

      I gotta ask, why did you listen to Christian rock? I’m Catholic but I consider that stuff garbage that appears to promote God but in reality promotes the almighty dollar. If i want to listen to preachy music I would at the very least listen to Stryper. The point is this: I think music and religion should stay separate outside of religious music.

      • J.R.

        I was unpacking my room in our new house and the first station I got to when plugging in my radio was 88.1 WAYY FM (first thing on the dial). Uhh Jimmy Needham’s “Lost at sea” I think. Anyway, younger me had no qualms with Christian radio, and the thrill of discovering music on my own for once led me deeper into it. Keep in mind I was raised till then on Alan Jackson and the Space Jam soundtrack.

        It was definitely that neighbor kid who helped me break out. Soilwork, winds of plague, I was blown away.

        On religious music, I was actually talking about that with one if my old Sunday School teachers. How Christian music for a lot of bands is a “gateway drug” to popularity. So many of these bands claim Christianity and them once they make it big they ditch. Either they lose God in the hell that is the industry or once their “in” they don’t need it. And then you try and assassinate your wife

        • Janitor Jim Duggan

          I see. I remember liking Soilwork at one point for a very short period of time. I liked Winds of Plague for about a week after their new album came out and then they ran their course. I saw Winds of Plague at the Gramercy Theater for a tour I don’t remember. I enjoyed their set. When it comes to the kind of music Winds of Plague plays I prefer The Acacia Strain. I saw them last year opening for Hatebreed and Shadows Fall. I met Vincent outside the venue I saw them at but that photo and the photos of me and Mushroomhead from the same venue have been lost since I got a new phone earlier this year. I have a Shadows Fall shirt that was signed by the singer and the bassist but constant wearing of that shirt made the signatures wear out.