Flushcore Friday — ARROGATED

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Your two favorite/most hated world leaders have usurped Flush Friday during the temporary absence of the cat with the fat.

All pumped up to have a great weekend lavish with contentment and positive vibes? Well too bad, you fucking nerd. You already clicked through and you can’t turn back now. While listening to metalcore will admittedly ruin your weekend by virtue of its supreme and unmatched shittiness, W. and I are here to drag you into a more poignant darkness by letting the dudes in Celtic Frost and Shining aurally beat the shit out of your feelings. Let’s get started on hating life.

 

Masterlord SteelDragon:

Shining’s Kvarforth is a horrible individual who would view the suicide of a fan under the influence of his music as a great honor. In his own words:

“The main purpose of Shining is being a weapon targeted directly at the listener, extracting and glorifying negativity in all its perverse forms.”

Here’s some of his best/worst work. In addition to being Riff of the Week-worthy, it’s my opinion that the spoken-word segment near the middle — an audio sample of a young girl during a bout of severe depression — is one of the most evocative and effecting moment in recorded music. Listen, and by doing so, flush all hope of a decent weekend.

 


 

W:

There are few musicians in this world who are able to write downtrodden songs that resonate with me as much as Thomas Gabriel Fischer. Back in freshman year of college, many, many moons ago, a young, bummed out W. was cruising Myspace music late one night alone in his dorm room when he stumbled upon “Obscured” by Celtic Frost. This melancholy track from the band’s final album, Monotheist, struck a chord with my emotional state, and the hopeless lyrics lodged themselves into my heart. From the plaintive cries of “No! No! No!” to the ritualistic drums and droning riffs, this song has all the right ingredients to give an Edgar Allen Poe-level sadgasm, and it definitely resonated with my young mind. However, there’s something cathartic in that much anguish. There is no anger, only despair. Succumb to the negativity of “Obscured.”

“Somewhere inside.
It’s still obscured.
Darkness reflects.
Stronger than fear.
I seize control to inhale this final day.
I shut my mind but I’m falling anyway.”

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  • W.

    Flush these poser hacks!

    • Flush your fucking face, uncle flusher.

      • Metaphysical Anus

        Why aren’t you doing my former job?

      • Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo

        You flush your uncle yes it’s true nobody flushes uncles quite like you

        • Christian Molenaar

          Was this meant to be sung to the tune of The Trooper?

          • Metaphysical Anus

            What have you done to me? Now I can’t read it without the tune of The Trooper. Damn you!

      • Lord Ov Kapsko

        Behold, the flush, and the power it holds!

    • LEAVE THAT POOR KITTEN ALONE YOU MOTHERFLUSHER!

  • Negrodamus

    When I listen to very sad tunes, it’s generally in the vein of Songs: Ohia, Man’s Gin, Wovenhand, ya know folk or dark folky kinda acts. Melancholy stuff. I am scouring my brain for sad metal now though lol

    • Metaphysical Anus

      Have you listened to Current 93.

      • Negrodamus

        I don’t believe I have, yet, but we have talked about them or I have seen you mention them at the very least. Swans-ish?

        • Metaphysical Anus

          It’s neo-folk. Usually apocalyptic lyrics. Here’s one of their best songs

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br5UIiOr2-w

          • Negrodamus

            I’ll put this in the old queue for after my workday. I just listened to another neo-folk Swans style act based on a recommendation from here, driving home from work, but I can’t for the life of me recall the name. I bet I have it saved on a Spotify playlist though…

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Could it be Death In June?
            Here’s another great song.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL3syp6pMtM

          • Negrodamus

            In case you were curious, that band was Oxbox. Pretty weird stuff lol

          • Metaphysical Anus

            I listened to it here. I liked it.

          • Metaphysical Anus
          • Negrodamus

            Pushing play on this one now.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Push the play, make my day. Tell me if you like it after you’re done.

    • Randall Thor

      Do you listen to Patrick Watson? He’s got some very melancholy tunes

      • Negrodamus

        I have not heard of him before today, but I would be game to check him out!

        • Randall Thor

          Start here, his newer stuff is happier, but still very powerful

          http://youtu.be/YA2h9PrIUxs

          • Negrodamus

            Pressing play on this now.

          • Randall Thor

            What’d you think?

          • Negrodamus

            He has a very interesting voice.

  • Metaphysical Anus

    Put that kitty down!

  • CÖÄL RÖLL FRÖM THE TÖILET BÖWL

    Nah, too much lifelovin going on here to press play on either! Make it a great day!

    • here’s a good lifeloving song i’ve been jamming lately (might not be too popular in here tho):
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZvFGEE26vE

      • Metaphysical Anus

        Dude comes and say that he hates Sunbather and then says he likes this.

        • there are things about me that will scare you.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            One could say that you have layers. Like onions and ogres.

          • Negrodamus

            The Shrek / Jesus mashup wins.

          • Metaphysical Anus

          • get shrecked m8!
            prepare for the shreckoning!

            …i miss Death.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            What? I’m still the same guy. You have to talk to Jack about that. He fired me.

          • flattery will get you everywhere, boo

          • crazytaco_12

            Archspire: Stay Shrech

  • I feel compelled to post the flushiest thing I’ve heard all week. It’s garbage!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIajmLP46b4

    • before i hit play, does this have anything to do with quantum computing?

    • Metaphysical Anus

      Joe, I’m scared. This is so bad.

    • this is putrid. i upvoted because your assessment is correct!

      • These kids need swirlies STAT.

        • Metaphysical Anus

          Let’s find them.

        • CÖÄL RÖLL FRÖM THE TÖILET BÖWL

          Where’s Boz to stuff these nerds into lockers?

      • I stumbled across them on youtube once. The comments were full of people praising their talent and originality. I felt so bad for those people. Then I went to listen to sylosis.

        • Metaphysical Anus

          Were the commenters all 12 or younger?

        • we’re going to need a bigger interrogation room

          • Indeed

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            Let the torture begin.

    • Believe it or not, there was a time in my life when I listened to this band.
      Luckily, I’ve wizened up quite a bit.

      • Negrodamus

        I like the name change Ginge, lol

      • This is the only thing I’ve ever heard by this band. Other things could be better? This song is just really bad doe.

        • Don’t waste your time. Flushcore personified.

        • Negrodamus

          Joe I noticed we are already getting guest trolls comparing us to The Site That Shan’t Be Named. Good thing, huh? Lol.

          • I’ve only seen a couple. Hopefully they’ll find something better to do.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            I haven’t seen them.

      • Sponge Of Mystery

        i remember the days when my top 5 favorite bands consisted of: Asking Alexandria, Attack Attack, Of Mice and Men, I See Stars and Woe Is Me lolz

        • Luckily I never liked AA, AA!, I See Stars or Woe Is Me, but I did like Of Mice and Men.

          • Sponge Of Mystery

            Every once in a while i’ll try to go back and listen to them just for nostalgic reasons but it’s just so bad, like, going from Beyond Creation to AA…i just can’t do it anymore

        • JWG

          Where does Motionless in White fit in this scheme?

          My second-most recent Twitter follower seems to have added me because of a hashtag-level overlap in interests in “horror” and “metal”. But by “horror” she means PG13 Scream clones and by “metal” she seems to mean whatever MIW is.

          I feel like the responsible thing would be to slowly nudge her in the direction of actual metal from her own country (Australia it seems) but I need to determine what I’m working with first. Is it a lost cause?

          • Sponge Of Mystery

            I actually still listen to MIW every once in a while lol, try showing her like…Trivium and As I Lay Dying to at least get her used to decent guitar playing. Then maybe like, In Flames?

          • Sponge Of Mystery

            or just skip all those bands and just force her to listen to Disfiguring The Goddess lul

    • Sponge Of Mystery

      it sounds like they just heard Meshuggah for the the first time but still love Linkin Park at heart so they play nu metal riffs in like a Meshuggah tuning

    • Mr. Bojangles

      I actually like this song, though I do realize it is quite flush-able.

      -Mr. Bojangles, from Italy with hate.

  • Randall Thor

    PLEASE, a depressing weekend is not complete without Leviathan or Silencer

    http://youtu.be/NuBw6AYVFOg

    • Randall Thor

      Silencer, for you plebs: http://youtu.be/d_MV_jx-QhM

      • Randall Thor

        If you REALLY want to flush your weekend, watch Evangelion http://youtu.be/R6Gykk-qU_0

        • Metaphysical Anus

          I kind of like this.

          • Randall Thor

            The music to the “Rebuild” movies is excellent, highly recommend it to anyone even if they aren’t a fan of anime

        • CÖÄL RÖLL FRÖM THE TÖILET BÖWL

          OMG you totally need to play three videos playing simultaneously.

          • Randall Thor

            Yeah didn’t really think about how dickish a triple post is. oh well

          • CÖÄL RÖLL FRÖM THE TÖILET BÖWL

            No, I’m saying, playing all three at once will result in instant void kissing

          • Randall Thor

            They are all strangely in time right now

      • I stuck with this until the vocals then I lol’d.

        • Randall Thor

          They’re definitely unusual

    • Negrodamus

      Leviathan is about as dark as it gets.

    • Mr.CustodialArts

      I don’t have this record, but the title/cover has always intrigued me…as if suicide wasn’t bad enough, there are “sub levels?!” TEN OF THEM? What’s it like down there? Why is the chick from RINGU on that thing? Is she sliding down or crawling up?

    • Leviathan is a great DLC

      • Randall Thor

        I have never played it, but I read up on it and am mega excited for my ME3 playthrough now

  • MoshOff

    I heard that Shining were playing this year’s Hellfest and I was like LKHFAUOFHPIOAJP¨SFK.

    Turns out it was this Shining 🙁

    • MoshOff
      • Guacamole Jim

        Fukkin rad song.

        • MoshOff

          And the audio in that video is live, for real. Most impressive performance I’ve seen in a while.

          • Guacamole Jim

            Agreed! When I first saw it I was like “Oh cool industrial riff bro could get behind” then the sax came in and I was like “OMFQPASWEINISEFNSIEFNISEF” *JIZZJIZZJIZZ*

          • crazytaco_12

            Trying to understand how he did vocals then with no visible mic?

          • MoshOff

            Clip mic 🙂

          • crazytaco_12

            Ahh, I couldn’t see it on him, but he is all in black anyhow

      • W.

        I love these one-take vids.

    • Janitor Jim Duggan

      I love Shining, but the one in this post. I really shouldn’t be listening to stuff that can destroy my soul but I’m drawn to it.

  • Xan

    This week has included a hodgepodge of different genres for me. I’ve listened to the discography of Judas Iscariot, Icon of Phobos, Irkallian Oracle, Kever, Gruesome, The Northern Ontatio Black Metal Conservation Society, and I’m working through Motorhead right now.

  • Archspire

  • All you really had to do was post nina minaj or whatever.

    • Obsessed, much?

      • Metaphysical Anus

        I think he’s a secret fan now.

        • You are never getting the position back

          • Metaphysical Anus

            I don’t want it. I like being an anus. Death had so many responsibilities. Now I can live in my own anarchy.

      • No lol but that would be perfect for flush Friday

        • THIS JUST IN: JACK BAUER LOVES NICKI MINAJ AND ALL RAP.

          • STAY TECH MSD!

          • Ewwwww dude that’s SO LAME.

          • MoshOff

            What are you talking about? Bishes love Tech-Death.

          • No it’s that godawful sign off. It hurts.

          • It’s Archspire’s phrase actually lol. They post it on fb.

          • This is the mostly painfully lame thing I’ve ever read. You stole your tagline from the band that is pretty much your ACTUAL tagline. From now on your sign off needs to just be
            archspirearchspirearchspireachrpireachrishapreiahfaosefi

          • I have strong feelings about this band. This makes those feelings stronger.

          • Please tell me this isn’t real.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            I think it is.

          • 100% real bruh. STAY TECH, MSD.

          • STAY FLUSHED, ACFP!

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I wish it wasn’t either. Manowar is more metal than any tech death band.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            Archspire and Tech Death are ripping off the technical aspect of King Crimson. Were any of the members of Archspire even alive when KC formed?

          • Why does it matter if they were alive when KC formed? That doesn’t mean they can’t pull influence from them. That’s like saying modern death metal can’t be influenced by bands like Death.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I’m sure they did pull influence from KC. I’m just not a fan of tech death. I’m a power metal and prog guy.

          • tech death thursdays will convert you

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I will never be converted! It’s about as likely for me to convert to craft beer as it is to convert to tech death, which will never happen. Cheap beer, power metal and prog for life!

          • Tis only a matter of time.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            A matter of time until what? I want to be able to fit into the JNCOs I wore as a teenager and drink Surge again, eat pizza from Chuck E Cheese and go to Phar Mor and buy cases of Fruitopia at rock bottom prices and not have to listen to tech death.

          • Refusing to drink decent beer may be part of the problem?

          • Virgil the Ghost Poet

            Fuck Yeah!

          • Metaphysical Anus

            The kingdom of prog is not open to those that dislike tech death, my friend.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            Aw damnit. I guess I have to join the tech death camp so I don’t have to be separated from my genre. It reminds me of my uncle who brought me to see Pantera when I was 7. I was born in April 1987. They came around me and my uncle invited me. My uncle was a big metal head. He had brought me to see Slayer the week before that and told my parents he was bringing me to the city. He was a great liar. He told my parents that Pantera and Type O Negative were psychedelic rock bands. My parents bought it hook line and sinker. He bought me a copy of Far Beyond Driven that day and that was the last time me and him did anything together because my parents found out who Pantera were when I played the CD. I have said my first concert was Ozzfest 2000 but that was technically the first concert I went to without family. I did see Marilyn Manson when he came here in 1998 when I was 11 with friends but one of their parents was there as well. Marilyn Manson has not been to my town after getting sued by a hotel that he trashed once he was done with that performance. I had heard metal since I was 5 as my uncle who brought me to see Pantera with Type O Negative and Slayer with Machine Head lived with my family for a year or two after his wife divorced him. I didn’t really get into it until 1997 when nu metal was the rage. I saw Korn near me with Limp Bizkit as my parents bought me the tickets as an early birthday present. Helmet was there too but I didn’t like them. I did love Korn though. The first metal albums I bought were the POD. Taproot and Staind records though.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            You don’t have to embrace every tech death band, just don’t hate on it. It would also be nice if you dropped power metal, but it’s not mandatory.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I do like Cryptopsy and other technical death. I am going to drop all power metal except for Manowar and Symphony X.

          • It wasn’t already?

          • W.

            Yessss. Strike him down.

          • Simon Phoenix

            And that’s why they call you joehatesarchspirestaglinenkill.

          • oooooooooh nooooooo

          • Scrimm

            I’m ordering this.

          • I’m having a hard time envisioning this shirt on someone that doesn’t totally suck.

          • Mr.CustodialArts

            PICK A CHAPEL!

          • Scrimm

            Yeah I don’t think I could bring myself to wear that. Like the band, but my true love is stuff far more primitive. Plus my guitar skills are faaaaaaaar from technical.

          • “SO LAME” coming from the dude who sings power metal in the shower, and whose name is Masterlord SteelDragon.
            SHOTS FIRED.

          • ooooooOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH SNAP!

          • Mr.CustodialArts
          • i don’t understand… that was non-alcoholic champagne

          • Guacamole Jim

            HA!

          • Hahahahahaha

          • THE LAMESS OF POWER METAL IS INTENTIONAL AND TONGUE-IN-CHEEK. THESE DUDES ACTUALLY THINK “STAY TECH” IS THE SICKEST PHRASE.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            You know what’s even lamer? These bands that just noodle technically endlessly and never do anything except that. Stay Tech? How about Stay Prog? You heard me. Tech death rips off progressive rock and metal. The whole genre is a ripoff of King Crimson and ELP. Prog 4Life!

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Didn’t we already talk about ELP?

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I think we did. I’m unsure of when though.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            You don’t remember? We agreed that ELP is a cancer in prog and we should never talk about them again.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I love ELP though! I never said they were a cancer in prog.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Yes you did. You also agreed that I am superior to you in every way.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            No I didn’t. I never agreed with any of that.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Are you sure? I have recorded footage of you saying these things?

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I am sure. I am also sure that my old pair of JNCOs do not fit me anymore. I found them hidden away in my closet and they brought back memories from middle school and high school. I used to live within walking distance from a mall I loved called the South Hills Mall and there was a Chuck E Cheese’s right outside the mall. I frequented that mall often, going to Media Play and chilling in front of the Burger King where I tried and failed to pick up chicks with my friends. We were such hooligans. One of our group went to this chain called Phamhouse and shoplifted a 12 pack of Surge with his backpack and a Korn CD that he fit in his JNCOs once. He was also smart enough to not get caught. Once we were done there we would always head to the Chuck E Cheese and buy insane amounts of pizza and drink more Surge than humanly possible. Ah, the memories I had wearing those pants.

          • She has a nice ass though. Music wise I would rather listen to five finger death punch. Actually I would rather listen to archspire

          • Metaphysical Anus

            It’s nice for a plastic ass.

          • Negrodamus

            Was she the ass from the gif or the lady pushing the ass?

          • Yes? I dunno. Was a great ass tho.

          • I believe Nipply Mirage was the one pushing the ass.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            It was Nicki slapping it.

          • Scrimm

            Here’s some good rap for you Jack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzBgAA3zN0c

          • No such thing but I will look later

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            For shame. Wu Tang Clan is my shit. I love them so much.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            You think that’s good rap? Here’s the greatest rap album ever.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUPxEUdI4HE

          • Call the Slambulance

            Yeeahhh! WC is the tiggles. I used to fucking love Westside Connection when I thought I was all thuggin’.

          • Scrimm

            YES! I actually went and saw them live.

          • Call the Slambulance

            Dude, hell yeah! That would be a killer show

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Archspire would be dissapointed in you, seeing as one of the guys has a wu tang clan shirt.

          • Simon Phoenix

            That kinda makes Archspire that much cooler.

          • Metaphysical Anus
          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            This just in: Ann Coulter’s Flaccid Penis and Jack Bauer love Fall Out Boy, A Day To Remember and scene metal as well as rap and Miley Cyrus.

          • I’ll totally admit I can dig some of the older Fall Out Boy stuff, that shit is as infectious as Ebola.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            Well, Power Metal is the shit. Tech Death is shit that ripped off prog. You heard me. Prog did technical music first.

          • I’d agree that Tech Death is essentially prog sped up with more death metal injected. I’m just not a big fan of Power Metal, though I don’t absolutely hate it.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            See? That proves my point that this Toilet will one day be the ToiletOvProg.

          • I’m not seeing how that proves that point.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I love prog and if tech death takes over then technically prog will be a part of the takeover.

          • Hey now, adtr is fun.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I hate them because my younger sister loves all that scene crap.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            What did you just say?

      • Archspire

      • Scrimm

        I’m kinda obsessed with the video for Fancy.

        • Me too.

          <3 u charlie xcx 5ever.

          • Did you see her ice bucket challenge? Them hips ignite my inner instinct to breed.

          • Scrimm

          • Would last <10 seconds and tell her it usually doesn't happen like this/10

          • Scrimm

            Same here.

          • i’m sorry… want a backrub?

          • Negrodamus

            Wait, whose ice bucket challenge?

          • Metaphysical Anus

          • no money, no family… sixteen in the middle of Miami

          • Elite Extremophile

            those hips… MMFF

          • JWG

            Tiny navel. Possible clone hiding it via cosmetic surgery.

            Would explain a few things.

          • Simon Phoenix

            I don’t care for her music, but goddamn dem hips.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            I thought we were metal.

          • I’ve never made that claim.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            I quess I have to accept this.

          • I mean – yeah most of the content on the site is about extreme music genres but there really is nothing wrong with talking about other music as well.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            I know that. It was mainly a joke.

          • FLUSH

          • Mr.CustodialArts

            We are…but we reserve the right to occasionally don CHUBBIES.

        • Guacamole Jim

          I’M SO FANCY

          YOU ALREADY KNOW

          I’M IN THE FAST LANE

          FROM L.A. TO TOKEEYO

      • W.

        He totally did the whole, “I’m going to misspell her name so I seem cool and aloof” thing.

        • M Shadows!

          She sexi!
          -M Shadows!

        • pretty sure i spelled nina correctly lol.

    • Tongue punch has been revoked. Hope you’re happy now.

      • I didn’t Archspire want a tongue punch Archspire anyway. I don’t like things Archspire in that area.

        • Metaphysical Anus

          Soon you can’t say anything but Archspire. It consumes you.

          • I am joining them beyond. Soon I will have seven crowns and an oblivion chain. I can now fathom infinite depth.

          • Metaphysical Anus

            Gonna get their new album next Tuesday.

  • Mr.CustodialArts

    How about an upbeat jam about war and hockey? You can sing-along AND be self-righteous ALL AT ONCE!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAIUf_SYpwE

    • BRO-FIST.

      This record rips front to back too.

    • crazytaco_12

      That intro sample was hilarious, then it got to the song intro and I’m like “woah, I might dig this band” and then it chilled out and got horrible (in my opinion). I can’t listen to any punk that’s melodic or has vocals like that in it.

  • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

    A track that just oozes sonic sadness. As always its the fucking riffs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB-F-tpy_70

    • Simon Phoenix

      Ironic that a xtian band would make such a depressive ode to anti-lifelovin.

      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        They weren’t a christian band. Wagner was doing copious drugs at the time and was totally depressed.

  • Janitor Jim Duggan

    That Shining track is the darkest thing I have ever heard bar none. I love the band now because it’s so fucking dark and depressing yet it’s so fucking beautiful. The sample of the person with depression made my heart feel sad. Dear god Shining is dark shit.

  • KJM

    End it all now, NERRRRRRRRDS!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3WLk8DuJeg

    • Janitor Jim Duggan

      Goddamnit, now my soul is sad along with my heart. This depressing metal is bumming me out.

    • Cock of Steele

      I still need to get this.

  • Mr. Bojangles
    • Metaphysical Anus

      Welcome, this is Toilet ov Hell.

  • Howard Dean

    Great post, guys! Shining and Celtic Frost? Now we’re talking!

    V – Halmstad is definitely Shining’s best album. Also, the sample of the depressed woman in this song is actually taken from the movie Prozac Nation, and the voice belongs to actress Christina Ricci.

    • Negrodamus

      Christina Ricci was pretty hawt for awhile, wonder what happened to her.

      I checked out a bit of that Dragged Into Sunlight HD, their album Hatred For Mankind. Pretty br00tal stuff.

      • Howard Dean

        Indeed she was. I don’t think I’ve seen her since she was all naked and frisky in Black Snake Moan.

        Also: Glad to hear you checked out Dragged Into Sunlight. Byah!

  • this goes out to all you blackened thrash fans here
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4sezOk6GKQ

  • AnthrallicA

    Sorry guys, but I’ve been sick lately and sad enough as it is. Today I need something that make me chuckle. So for today’s playlist I rocked NOFX’s Self Entitled and Murphy’s Law’s Back with a Bong.

  • crazytaco_12

    Fucking sweet; I was looking for this band’s bandcamp to post their 1st EP that’s available for NYP, then I saw they released a full blown album this year for the same price. Like finding money in a pair of pants you just put on. Anyhow, here’s some weird, depressive shit for ya’s. http://ghostbath.bandcamp.com/