Flush it Friday: Night Letters

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It’s Friday afternoon here in America. Let’s raise a damn ruckus.

This week has been painful around the world. I’ve felt a knot of tension in my belly since last Friday. It’s not fear, or sadness, or paranoia. It’s anger.

News of threatening night letters,
Stones tossed over the fence.
Your loved ones taunted by murderers.
Tell them it’s three years that they’ll have to wait.
As their whole world implodes.

From 2009’s Supporting Caste, “Night Letters” might be the most powerful song Propagandhi ever released. The music shows off a punk band completely eclipsing their genre and shredding away with metallic precision. The lyrics tell the story of an Afghan refugee in constant worry about his loved ones that are trapped in a hellish war zone, years away from the vetting process that might allow them a safer place to live. It’s a sobering tale delivered with righteous fury.

For years, terrible tragedies have occurred across the globe as ISIL has gone about their business of conducting bloody terrorism in the name of setting up the end of days. This group of back-woods fringe extremists is doing a hell of a job of wreaking havoc in the world, especially considering their incredibly limited numbers and resources. These assholes exist to inflict violence on innocent people, and the people they’re hurting the most are Muslims.

As you’re well aware, Syria might be one of the worst places on Earth to be right now. Millions of frightened men, women, and children are attempting to escape the very real threat of death at the hands of ISIL, Assad and/or any number of countries actively engaged in indiscriminate bombing campaigns. European countries are taking in these displaced people by the hundreds of thousands. The U.S., in a display of solidarity, agreed to accept a paltry 10,000 refugees. Last week, an act of terrible violence was committed in Paris. One of the perpetrators may or may not have been an agent of ISIL posing as a Syrian refugee. This is where the worst in people is revealed.

Right Wing politicians are tripping over their dicks to see who can most quickly turn up their rhetoric to Ethnic Cleansing-levels of Fascism. The loudest and least-informed American is the quickest to decry the boogeyman of “immigrants”, forever ruining a country founded and populated by exclusively immigrants. Morons are eager to utterly misuse Christianity as their defense for hatred of “the other”. We’ve done this song and dance before. The Native Americans are the enemy. The Irish are the enemy. The Italians are the enemy. The Blacks are the enemy. The Mexicans are the enemy. It’s endless. Within our grandparents’ lifetime, the United States shamefully turned away a ship full of Jewish refugees for fear that a Nazi spy may be included in their huddled ranks. They were returned to Germany where they met their death. The governors of a majority of states in the Union are chomping at the bit to emulate that exercise in base cowardice by making unconstitutional proclamations that they will refuse to accept Syrian refugees. They’re using a tragedy that happened across the world as an excuse to appear very, very #tuff and #hard on an extremely vague threat of terrorism.

So let’s go ahead and call those governors what they are: Cowards. There is nothing heroic about denying aid to people in need. There is nothing brave about demonizing millions of people based on their faith or skin color. There is no valor in using a tragedy to scare and energize the lowest common denominator with fear-mongering statements. These are the yellow-bellied actions of a coward, and these cowards have names, faces, and addresses.

Greg Abbott, governor of my state, is the IRL equivalent of It’s a Wonderful Life‘s Mister Potter. Abbott is dead-set on taking Texas back to the glory days of the 1950s by closing abortion clinics, removing the rights of protected citizens, and slashing any government assistance for those that need it the most. Hilariously, he’s managed to win the support of every tin-foil-hat-wearing Alex Jones jerkoff in the United States by pretending that he somehow foiled President Obama’s insidious plans to… do something or other to Texas with a series of military training exercises ominously named “Jade Helm” (Ooooooooh spooky). Less hilariously, he’s working overtime to engender a xenophobic and hateful atmosphere in the state. Already, he’s inspired petty, racist vandalism at a Mosque just a few miles down the road from his tax-payer funded mansion.

Look at this coward pretend to stand up for anything other than cruelty to frightened Muslims.

 

At the moment, the nation looks poised to re-enter post-9/11 anti-Muslim mania. But we don’t have to stand for it and we don’t have to let our voices be drowned out by shrill idiots that claim to love America and the Bible, but have yet to learn a lesson from either. If you’re a Texan, or just plain unhappy with Abbott’s actions, I’d recommend emailing, calling, or writing a letter to him.

Office of the Governor
P.O. Box 12428
Austin, Texas 78711-2428

(512) 463-1782

If you’re a resident of one of the many other states currently governed by a dildo, simply Google “Governor Phone Number” and your representative’s information will appear. Their staff is required to log every point of contact. This is one of the easiest methods of making your voice heard by those in power.

It’s easy to blame a large group of people for the actions of few nutjobs. It’s even easier to sulk and complain about the state of the world. It’s much, much harder to do the right thing. We must show compassion for our fellow man, but stand up to cowardice when it threatens the weakest among us. You have a voice. You have agency. Use it. If you would like to offer additional aid to the folks affected by this crisis, please consider donating to a worthy charity.

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  • Janitor Jim Duggan

    Good: A lot of concerts are coming to my area, Thanksgiving

    Bad: I feel lonely

    Ugly: Working midnight to 8 am at one of my jobs on Black Friday followed by a 12-5 shift at my other job.

  • CyberneticOrganism

    Just dong my part… I mean DOING my part.

    • Janitor Jim Duggan

      W isn’t going to be happy with you…no wait, that’s not W. That’s Greg Abbott.

  • KJM, Shake Zula

    My governor, Charlie Baker, is already starting to back away from the others on this. I predict a full policy reversal before too long. http://www.necn.com/news/new-england/Massachusetts-Gov-Charlie-Baker-Declines-to-Sign-GOP-Letter-on-Syrian-Refugees-352303301.html

    • Janitor Jim Duggan

      I hope that Cuomo lets them in, specifically women and children. Men should be allowed to come here as well as long as we can prove they’re not terrorists.

      • KJM, Shake Zula

        I’m gonna post a few excerpts from a letter I just received from my Congressman that shows just how rigorous the screening process is to begin with.

        • Seriously. The process is extremely lengthy to enter the U.S. as a refugee.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Even the translators in Afghanistan haven’t got their passports here. My neighbors had a long process getting here.

          • more beer

            What about the half dozen That tried to sneak in through Mexico last week? What was the screening process for them?

          • I have yet to see a credible source report anything of the sort.
            http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/isismexico.asp

          • more beer

            I saw it on CNN last weekend.

        • Janitor Jim Duggan

          Doesn’t the process take 18-24 months? I don’t really pay attention to politics but my dad is a conservative. I’m also a conservative but not an tea party extremist.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            I’m posting stuff now that addresses this.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I’ll read it as you post it.

  • Jason Kolkey

    Right on, Joe.

  • megachiles

    Srsly, fuck Greg Abbott.

    • Janitor Jim Duggan

      Fuck him with a giant cactus.

      • Lacertilian

        I’ve got one ready

        • Janitor Jim Duggan

          Not giant enough.

          • Lacertilian

            It’s all my little lizard arms can manage at the moment.

  • I’m gonna be outside the governor’s mansion Sunday afternoon for a protest if anyone wants to join/fight me.

    • Janitor Jim Duggan

      I would join you but I work Sunday and I live in New York.

    • Give him one for me.

      No wait, give him 100 for me.

    • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

      I’d join ya, but I’m in southeast VA.

    • megachiles

      I don’t like getting overtly political, given the nuance inherent to government, but Greg Abbott, and the Tea Party in general, are shitheads.

      • Janitor Jim Duggan

        I’m conservative and I despise the Tea Party.

        • megachiles

          Exactly! Conservative values and policies are totally great in a number of situations. But mixing religious rhetoric, xenophobia, and anti-science stances into politicking mucks it up for the sane republicans.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            They make the sane republicans look bad.

    • more beer

      Once you lose people you know to these Muslim Extremists. Your views change big time. Keep that in mind. I`ve had people I knew killed twice by them now. So I firmly believe we need a strong screening process.

      • We have a strong screening process. The Shake is posting about it right now in this very thread. Fact is, in the United States, you’re far, far more likely to be killed by a white dude than any Muslim Extremist.

        • BEARD-SPLITTER

          *white christian

          Ftfy

        • more beer

          I asked the Shake where are we going to keep these people during said process. We can’t put them in refugee camps. The odds of getting killed by a white guy doesn’t bring my friends who where killed in the WTC back. They were killed by Muslim Extremists.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Muslim extremists maybe. But not Syrians. In fact, they were our allies, Saudies.

            And they didnt get into he US thru a refugee program. They did it with student and tourist visas.

          • more beer

            The Saudis fund terrorism they are certainly our enemy.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            I hate to break it to you, the Saudis are our allies (just like isreal).

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            You’re both right. The Saudis are our “friends”, and they attacked us on 9/11 via proxy.

          • more beer

            Exactly they are like double agents.

          • more beer

            The worst thing America ever did was support Israel after World War II. This action has caused us more problems for the last 60 years than anything else has. The Saudis might say they are our allies. But the really aren’t.

          • I disagree with some of your other points but I’ll back this. Israel’s treatment of Palestinians (and our direct support of Israel) is definitely a major firestarter for these extremist groups.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Even Hamas has publicly condemned ISIS.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            So has Al Qaeda

          • more beer

            Al Qaeda took responsibility for the terrorist attack in Mali today.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Fuckin terrorists need to make up their minds

          • more beer

            They are having a pissing contest. Al Qaeda and Isis are comparing penis sizes.

          • more beer

            It goes much deeper with Israel than just the Palestinians. The entire Arab world hates them.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            The main thing that bothers me about that is the nukes we’re not supposed to talk about. If I were the leader of Iran, you bet your ass I’d be trying to either enrich uranium or buy pre-made warheads as a deterrent to Israel.

          • more beer

            But Iran also hates us. I know you you remember the hostage crisis. Them having intercontinental ballistic missiles isn’t good for anyone on earth.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            No it isn’t. My point is though, why are we giving them so much shit about it, but we still deny that Israel even has nukes?(rhetorical question of course).

            Ah yes, the hostage crisis. An affair artificially prolonged by The CIA in order to help funnel money to Central America, weapons to Iran, and help their Director, George H.W. Bush become VP. “Memories…”

          • Allies to the US, yes but the imams and such preach the Wahabist form of Islam that treats women as second class citizens and encourages death to anyone that is not of Muslim faith. Sorry but the Saudis need to find the will to change their culture to stem the tide of these extremist views. There’s a couple good articles in the NY Times today on this. Good info there on the culture in SA and how it relates to IS.

          • more beer

            If they didn’t get most of their money from us for oil. They wouldn’t even act like our allies.

          • Price of oil is dropping considerably since the US is producing more of it’s own oil and down the line we’ll be investing in renewable energy sources. Our dependence on their oil will likely drop considerably within the next decade or two.

          • more beer

            They have actually increased production to make the cost of fracking too high for the market. A lot of the American oil companies are slowing production. Which I think is stupid. I think they should keep going like they were. So we can tell them to shove their oil up their asses.

          • Óðinn

            That’s right, Ron Deuce. Renewable energy can help to solve multiple issues, domestic and geopolitical. We also need to stop our dependence on the arms industry.

          • It’s horrible that you lost your friends, especially in that tragedy. The cycle of fear and violence seems to go hand in hand. It’s really difficult to do, but we need to trust that almost everyone on Earth just wants to live a normal life. Extremist terrorists are not particularly effective at killing people. They’re mostly effective at making us lose our sense of compassion and causing fear and suspicion of Muslims.

          • more beer

            They are pretty good at killing. We are setting ourselves up for a whole lot of tragedy.

          • Lacertilian
          • Guacamole Jim

            You ever heard of a guy called Rene Girard? He’s a sociologist who wrote on the mimetic cycle of violence and scapegoating; it’s basically exactly what you’re getting at. I think you’d enjoy his work a lot.

          • Haven’t heard of him. Will check it out.

        • Truth, domestic terrorism commited by bat shit crazy white people is much more likely.

        • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

          Chill. Keep in mind that I’m from Southside Chicago, aka the murder capital of America, and some of his points are there. You’re likely to be killed by any number of nutcases, black, white, latino or any other. It doesn’t matter what color the person, trust me.

          • That’s fair. Most of my perspective is, y’know, Texas.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Fair enough, but let’s be tolerant. That’s the sum of your argument, so let it be such. 🙂

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Eh, we all have our share of tragedy, and getting into mine is more than I care for. I’m here to talk with you and the rest of the crew about some good tunes, good eats (which TX has the best of), and not the heady issues.

      • KJM, Shake Zula

        I’ve been mugged and physically assaulted by black males on multiple occasions. Am I justified in becoming a racist based on that personal, first hand experience?

        • more beer

          I haven’t been mugged but I have been jumped by gangs of black dudes in New York on a couple of occasions. It is not the same as being murdered going to your job by some religious lunatic.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            But, at the same time, you’re more likely to be killed by a lunatic in general.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            This is the point I tried to make to my kind but paranoid BIL who just couldn’t understand how I could truly feel safe going to the corner store if I wasn’t packing heat.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            At least one time I easily could’ve been killed and left for dead. It’s part of why I have legit PTSD(actual diagnosis) despite having never served. At least they let me keep my herb.

          • more beer

            So could I. I got jumped by 30 guys after the Howard Beach incident. I was with 4 girls. Luckily I had a beer in my hand that I was able to break over one guys head and start stabbing his friends. The cops found several 12″ butcher knives they threw away after the incident.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            I was all by my lonesome, worked graveyard shift at the time. There would been no witnesses and no one to find me until it was far too late.

          • more beer

            I was outside a mall. You would think things like that wouldn’t happen in public like that.. But being alone like that is worse.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            It wasn’t even in a “bad” neighborhood. It was right outside Harvard Sq in one of the richest parts of Cambridge.

          • Waynecro

            Dude, I got jumped by a bunch of people in a mall a few times myself. One time, I was able to take out several guys by swinging a metal chair around. Another time, there were so many people (with weapons) that I had to act crazy and cut myself up with a knife and splash blood on everyone to create an opportunity to run away. I was probably 15 at the time.

          • more beer

            I was actually outside of the mall near he entrance. If I didn`t have a beer in my hand I would have probably gotten killed. But when the crazy white boy breaks a bottle over a dudes head and stabs a few of his friends with the neck. It freaks the attackers out. They never think someone will stand up for themselves. I got something busted over my head and was bleeding all over the place. Once they scattered because one of them was screaming he stabbed me. I took off.

          • Waynecro

            Yeah, man. Fighting back worked great for me the first few times. But then some of the same guys came back with all their friends, and shit got out of hand. The first couple batches of guys were just random thugs, but their cousins were in some pretty serious gangs from south of the border. All I could do at that point was act crazy enough to escape and not show my face anywhere near that place again for a while.

          • more beer

            The guys who got me were not an organized gang. But people who were mad about an incident I had nothing to do with. I just happened to be white. They were mad at white people.

          • Waynecro

            I’ve been in that position too. Shit’s fucked up, man.

          • more beer

            It is at least I hurt some of them for hurting me and being racist assholes.

          • Waynecro

            Sometimes that’s all you can do. I’d say it’s a win.

          • more beer

            They only got me none of the girls was with. But I got 4 or 5 of them with that beer bottle neck. So I will call it a win too.

          • Waynecro

            Nice, dude. Glad the gals escaped OK and that you weren’t murdered. Whenever you walk away from a fight and can say, “Yeah, but you should see the other guys,” you win.

          • more beer

            Yea that is why I stayed and fought. Didn’t want any of the ladies to get hurt. But I also didn’t cooperate with law enforcement either. I knew who a couple of them were. But I had to live there ratting people ot isn’t really an option.

          • Waynecro

            That’s nuts, man.

          • more beer

            This was pretty close to NYC. The rules of the street apply.. Sometimes you just gotta take your licks and keep it moving.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I’m lucky that has never happened to me. No one has ever tried to kill me or attack me in any way.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Good. Hopefully it never will. It’s not the kind of life experience you want or need.

  • KJM, Shake Zula

    Here’s an excerpt from an email I just received from my Congressman(Michael Capuano) that illustrates how rigorous the screening process already is.

    “People should know that it took my office well over
    two years to help a brave Afghan who jeopardized his life and the lives
    of his family when he chose to become a translator for our troops. He
    had met regularly with ranking
    US officers, all of whom vouched for him. We are still working on
    comparable Afghan and Iraqi cases. If it takes this long to help
    someone who freely chose to support American armed forces, you can rest
    assured the process will be even more thorough and
    time consuming for typical refugees.”

    • more beer

      Where are they going to keep them for 2 years or more? If we put them in camps everyone will scream it is inhumane. If we just let them in without rigorous screening. We are just asking terrorists to find a way to slip through the cracks. Why are none of the rich Arab countries taking in any of them? It is a tricky situation. But our safety and security has to come first.

      • KJM, Shake Zula

        Where would we normally keep refugees if all this never happened in the first place? As has been pointed out, terrorists who attack this country always have visas or some other heavily vetted, legit way of getting in.

        • more beer

          Let them go to Arab countries. Where they share the same culture. But they can`t because these countries won`t allow them in. Ask yourself why that is?

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            The countries won’t allow them in because they don’t give a fuck. We’re supposed to be better than them.

          • more beer

            The problem is we can`t even take care of our own. How many of our veterans are homeless and living on the streets? Why should we have to take care of the rest of the world. When we can`t take care of our own. The Saudis don`t give a fuck about them. But the Arabs have been at war with each other for 2000 years. Long before we stuck our noses in their business for oil.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            I agree that we shouldn’t stick our noses in the Middle Eastern hornets nest. It’s a fool’s game.
            Unfortunately the die is already cast. We’ve spent far too much time, money, and blood destabilizing that part of the world due to our insane jones for petroleum. We turned Iraq into a pit of chaos. We can;t just ignore the consequences of our actions because they make us feel unsafe.

            I think I’ve said my fill on this. Time to get high and post Rick And Morty vids. ^_^ PEACE!

          • more beer

            I`m doing the same. Peace brother.

          • megachiles

            That’s a very fair point! And I think a number of US politicians are also asking that the more prominent, and wealthy countries within the middle east aid both the refugee situation, and in dismantling ISIS. I think it falls down to humanitarian and resource concerns. We can’t house people in camps indefinitely, and by pooling global resources, and resettling if thw situation dictates, we can better aid people who have been displaced.

            Here’s a link to the major registration locations for syrian refugees: http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php

          • more beer

            Where are we going to house them? We have homeless people everywhere.

      • megachiles

        From my understanding, all asylum seekers are held in designated safe areas/camps established in countries in (relatively) close proximity to their country of origin. These camps are funded and managed by the UN.

        For a refugee to resettle in the US, they have to pass a rigorous screening process and referral by the UN’s refugee agency, UNHCR. Given the length of this process, the reasons for seeking asylum (e.g. felt threatened, economic hardship, were literally threatened, etc.), and that many asylum seekers simply want to wait out whatever is going on and return home, many do not leave the camps. If they pass screeming and are selected for resettlement, refugees are assigned a country (I’m not sure if having relatives in a particular country sways this or not) and then must go through their resettlement country’s screening process before they can integrate. The number of refugees a country is willing to accept also influences resettlment. Allegedly, the US has a very strict screening process in comparison to the EU countries.

        I definitely agree with you on taking precautions, but given the process I don’t think we’re ultimately putting ourselves at greater risk by saying we’ll accept X number of refugees.

        Edit: grammarz

        • more beer

          I`m not so sure this correct. They have been running to Europe with no process what so ever. Plus why won`t the Saudis or other Arab nations accept them into their countries? Wouldn’t it make sense for them to go some place that has the same culture and beliefs as them.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Do you honestly think The Saudis give a fuck about these people or the Palestinians?

  • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

    My neighbors are from Afghanistan, and as I’ve said so many times, they are the coolest people on Earth (and could kick my ass at sports). As atheist as I am, Muslims are some of the friendllist people I’ve ever known, much like your everyday Christian or Jew. But, there are extremists, just like Christians, who forget the books that they claim to fight for in their ignorance.

    “God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought
    you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just
    towards them. God loves those who are just.” (Surat al-Mumtahana, 8)

    (Quran 5:87) O you who believe, do not prohibit good things that are
    made lawful by God, and do not aggress; God dislikes the aggressors.

    • Janitor Jim Duggan

      I agree. My mom is a devout Catholic and believes all the music I love is evil. She listens to top 40 garbage though which is much more inappropriate in some cases. She can have extreme views on things but she’s not a bad person.

      • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

        Lol! My grandma who just passed was a definite Christian, but she never pushed it on me, and accepted the fact I’m as atheist as it gets. But, at the same time, I do see the good that religion does for the average person, and agree with some of it. As far as Christ was saying, I have no right to judge you and you have no right to judge me. That I can certainly agree with.

        • Janitor Jim Duggan

          My mom pushed it on me but I also believed in God so it didn’t really matter if she pushed it on me.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            As far as I can gather, God is what it means to you. It honestly hasn’t meant anything to me since 12 years old, but I can respect what it means to others.

            Lol, I can tell this thread is gonna get ugly.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I know it will. I’m going to show myself out before it gets bad.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            I’m with ya! BTW, wanted to slide this on over to you (it’s a playlist, BTW)……..

            https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDADCE0790C17639E

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Eh, stick around and let’s get this thread into the usual comedic and friendly mode we’ve always had on here. Getting personal ruins my day, to be honest.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            It’s NOT going to get bad. We’re not a bunch of zzzzzs here

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            No, it’s not. We can have these discussions without it getting personal. We’re all friends here, RIGHT?

          • These are all topics that are extremely contentious but I trust that everyone here can talk about it without getting angry or throwing around insults

          • more beer

            Yes and friends don`t have to agree about everything,

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Exactly. In fact, it would probably get a little boring if we did.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Everyone’s cool as fuck in my book on here. BTW, your Devin Townsend look got me hot, moist and scriffy! Let’s get into comedic mode as usual!

          • ┼yree
          • KJM, Shake Zula
          • ┼yree

            Yeah, he told those fuckers.

          • Óðinn

            Thank-you for believing in me, JJD.

      • Óðinn

        I can’t name any top 40 artists, but they probably worship the devil.

    • Same here, I’ve met and work with people of Muslim faith. Nothing but kindness and respect has been given to me when I interact with them.

      • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

        Exactly. Everyday religious people treat me fine, and don’t push it on me.

      • Dubs

        I’ve spent some time in the Middle East. People who didn’t even speak the same language as me showed me more hospitality than many Americans ever would.

        • more beer

          I also spent time in the Middle East. I watched Arab killing Arab every night from the flight deck of my ship. Firefights when you are far enough away are like fireworks.

          • Dubs

            Man is very cruel to man. I know you’ve been there and seen very different things than I have.

          • more beer

            Yes he is. I have seen the worst man has to offer. Things ave only gotten worse since then.

          • Stockhausen

            That’s heavy. The world is a messed up place.

          • more beer

            Yes it is. Especially that part of the world.

    • Edward/Breegrodamus™

      Quran 5:32

      We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person –
      unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would
      be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it
      would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.

      • BEARD-SPLITTER

        Why are you damn terrorists in here spoutin that jihad nonsense!?

        • Edward/Breegrodamus™

          I’m not a religious person but each of them has things I like. I heard that a while back and it always stuck with me. I am thinking about digging up a book I own about Buddhism and sobriety, though.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            I hope you know i was kidding

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            I did, lol

          • Waynecro

            I highly recommend A Small Treatise on the Great Virtues by Andre Comte-Sponville. That book really helped me when I first got sober, and I read it whenever I’m having a crisis.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            Huh, I should check that shit out.

            How long have you been sober ‘Necro?

          • Waynecro

            Since 2007. I had my last drink on Christmas 2006. My brother, who kicked hard drugs and alcohol, also really likes the book. I’ve had such positive experiences because of the book, I can’t help but recommend it whenever the chance to do so presents itself.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            That’s awesome, I also got sober in 2007!

          • Waynecro

            Kick ass! Congrats, bro!

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            Amazon has used copies of that book starting at $.01

          • Waynecro

            Well, I think it’s worth far more than that, so it’s a helluva deal!

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I don’t drink because I’m only 20. I don’t plan on ever drinking.

          • Waynecro

            I don’t have anything against drinking, but a lot of people have a lot of really good reasons for abstaining.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            I sure do. Alcoholism runs in my family. With my addictive personality it’s a bad idea.

          • Waynecro

            I’m glad you recognized that issue and took steps to prevent problems. Good luck, man.

          • Janitor Jim Duggan

            Thank you. Nothing will ever change that.

          • Waynecro

            Good work!

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Speaking as a party person, you’re not missing much imo by abstaining from booze. It was never really my thing even at a young age. Opinions will differ, of course.

          • more beer

            Yes they will my response to that is. BEER!

  • BEARD-SPLITTER

    Id like to point out that you can reach the congressional switchboard at (202) 224 3121

    Ask to speak with your representative. Give them your zip code, if you dont know who your congressman is, and they will connect you

  • RustyShackleford

    How people can govern based on hate and not compassion is fucking beyond my comprehension. Thanks Joe. Yep.

    Also, for fellow college students like myself, happy Thanksgiving break! WOO! *cracks Genny Light*

    • Janitor Jim Duggan

      I can’t wait for thanksgiving. I get to gorge. I can wait for Black Friday though.

    • Lacertilian

      Most of the conservative rhetoric I’ve seen is based upon fear.

  • KJM, Shake Zula

    Moar.
    “Last year, the US granted refuge to more than 3,100
    Iranians. Their country would never cooperate with us to determine who
    is truly a refugee fleeing persecution; Iran is certainly no friend of
    the US; and Iran is a well known
    supporter of certain terrorist groups. Yet no one complained about our
    process then.”

  • COAL ROLL

    opting out of the political conversation. See you guys tomorow

    • ┼yree

      Good call.

  • ┼yree

    Good: Metal, Beer, and Weekend
    Bad: Politics
    Ugly: Politics

  • KJM, Shake Zula

    Another good point:

    “The US has traditionally accepted refugees from countries with
    governments or political movements determined to harm the United
    States. Several of those “enemy aliens” helped us win World War II.
    Throughout the Cold War, we
    granted asylum to thousands of people persecuted by the Soviet Union.”

    • more beer

      Those people also were not blowing innocent people up.

      • KJM, Shake Zula

        True enough, but I still remember thinking as a teen(as did others) that I wouldn’t make it to my 21st birthday because the nukes would start flying. That’s how pervasive “The Fear” was. You know what I’m talking about.

        • more beer

          Yep. All the fallout shelter signs in school. I remember all of that.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Did you watch “The Day After” when it originally aired on ABC? That caused a major shit storm.

          • more beer

            No I was in the Navy in Beirut in the summer of 83. I saw Conan the Barbarian probably 30 time that summer. Entertainment wasn’t very good out at sea.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            I was only 16 so I was still in high school.

          • more beer

            I went in at 17 so I had just turned 18.

  • KJM, Shake Zula

    Besides…

    “Many avowed terrorists, including some killed in Paris, are citizens of
    EU countries. They are thus eligible to enter the United States without a
    visa. Under the Visa Waiver Program, a reciprocal agreement between
    the US and
    about 40 other democratic countries, citizens may travel freely without
    any prior interview or investigation.”

  • Stanley
  • JWEG

    I’m slightly pleased that only ONE of our Premiers has jumped on the anti-immigrant bandwagon, and even more proud that our Prime Minister has committed to settling a number of immigrants that is, per current population per capita 25 times as large as the U.S. commitment which is challenged unfairly even at that much smaller level.

    That said, I’m trying my best to avoid being political on the Internets for a bit. I’m focused on tunes and movies instead (see my Twitter feed for evidence).

    On that note:

    Good:
    – Scream Factory announced February 16th as the release date for the third Vincent Price Blu-Ray collection
    – Bloodsucking Bastards. Fave horror-comedy I’ve seen since WolfCop. So obviously, I recommended that as an ideal Double Feature
    – In the last few weeks I got some more digital copies of indie horror films I had ‘backed’ (KickStarter, Indiegogo) over the last year. Planning to watch the last of these (“Cat Sick Blues”, from Australia) this evening

    – For the Toilet ov Pop, and speaking of 80’s tunes (with a seasonal twist): new Carly Rae Jepsen tune out today – a cover of WHAM’s “Last Christmas”. It is good.

    – I’m two weeks away from the end of the term, but less than one week
    from when I can officially stop giving students extra time (no more
    assignments as of Wednesday)

    – Got to visit with some of my cousins (from one Aunt, anyway) this weekend. One of them has a new baby girl who seems to like me so long as I shave off my beard.

    Bad:
    – I had to shave off my beard. It will regrow, but I feel a bit naked. Plus, I caught a bad cold later that same evening that I don’t think is coincidence

    – Two weeks left of Labs is still two weeks. 0 would be far better.

    Ugly:
    Me without my beard, I think. People with cameras somehow always catch me in mid-chin-crunch so that I look like I have a double-chin.

    I’m kind of doughy, yes, but not double-chin doughy. Yet.

  • KJM, Shake Zula

    And finally, he calls today’s vote in Congress out for the bedwetting fiasco it truly was.

    “The real reason the House was forced to vote on a hastily drafted bill
    is fear-mongering for political gain. If it were otherwise, the
    Republican leadership would have allowed at least a few amendments to be
    considered. If we could have amended the bill
    just a little, everyone would have voted for it, it would have passed
    in the Senate, the President would have signed it and it would become
    law. We might even have been able to approve new funds for agencies
    tasked with security screening. Instead, this
    bill will never be enacted – but the political talking points remain
    available.”

  • I’m fed up with every single yo-yo in this country with a podium to speak from that has the audacity to say the inflammatory rhetoric they are spewing. They are no better than the barbarians they are trying to demonize. My fat slob governor of NJ (whom I did not vote for) should be way back in the unemployment line. We need wholesale changes in our government and it starts with informed citizens putting the right people in charge. Until we can do that, our chances of having a civilized soceity will be limited. Props to Joe shining a light on this human shittyness.

    • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

      I like yo-yos, they’re a fun toy

  • Dave Vincent’s Perm

    Good: Learned Scream of the Butterfly. Finally got my frees back.

    Bad: the Gorerotted shirt I decided to get in medium rather than large refuses to stretch.

    Ugly: the one pair of jeans I own is ripping at the heel. Fuck’s sake.

  • Waynecro

    Good: I’m going to an Exmortus show with my parents the evening before Thanksgiving. Why do my parents–two retirement-age folks–want to go to a metal show? Because they often drink with the bass player from one of the local opening bands (Eukaryst). Probably won’t stay for Exmortus, though.

    Bad: Pointless emotions. Removing my ex as my beneficiary (401k, life insurance, etc.) made me sad, and I feel like a sap for giving a shit.

    Ugly: Political matters, which is why I’m not going to discuss them here. I have plenty of other places to make enemies.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctm0GHohHlg

    • BEARD-SPLITTER

      Look at it this way SwoleWayne, your bad leaves you more money

      • Stanley

        Not really. He’ll be brown bread.

        • Waynecro

          I should have left her as my beneficiary and killed myself. Life insurance doesn’t pay out in the event of suicide. She wouldn’t have gotten shit. Bwahahahaha!

          • Fuck that’s dark. : (
            /also, solidarity. I too, just changed the beneficiary on my shit.

          • Waynecro

            I’m not serious, of course. I just like dark humor. Solidarity indeed. Thanks, man. Good luck to you.

      • Waynecro

        Yeah, my brother will get a pretty decent chunk of change when I die.

        • BEARD-SPLITTER

          Well, i know it may not seem like it now. But im sure, down the line, you will meet a future mrs waynecro

          • Waynecro

            Thanks, man. Nice of you to say. I’m not heading down that path now, but I guess things could change. Of course, a guy living with his ex because they own a house together is stronger lady repellent than a guy living with his mom. I’m a fucking catch.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Sharing my small 2-bdrm apartment with my disabled mom hasn’t stopped me from finding quality women when I actually get off my lazy ass and do so.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            My mom is a literal insane person, and i met women living with her

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Mom’s the only family I really have. If I wasn’t there with her, she’d have to move into assisted living which I refuse to even consider.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Yeah. Those places are basically prisons.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            She’s far from completely bed-ridden, but she still can’t do much on a daily basis without help.

          • Waynecro

            Somehow, I think it’s easier for women to look past living with crazy family. I own property with my ex, and we still live together. That’s all sorts of red flags.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Just looking at me throws up all kinds of red flags.

            You should have seen this girl i did a job for today. Jesus, man.

          • Waynecro

            In your case, your mom is living with you (not the other way around). Plus, the reason for that living arrangement is very noble. That kind of thing actually scores you points. My brother landed a lot of quality trim when he was taking care of our grandmother, who was suffering from dementia and couldn’t live alone.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Actually, we’ve shared this apartment for a very long time. It’s just morphed to the point where it’s now mostly my responsibility to make sure the trains run on time, so to speak.

          • Waynecro

            It’s cool of you to take care of her, man. That’s a really tough thing to do.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            She has care workers that show up a couple times a week to help out so I don’t get totally swamped. They also take her out for rides so she can shop and go places with someone besides me.

            I left FB back in 2010. Despite that, all of my friends still have her on their friends list. People from my Blake’s 7 forum days that I haven’t talked to in 8 years do as well. Heck, one of my exes still talks to her every day. She’s worth the trouble.

          • Waynecro

            That’s really cool. Best of luck, man.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Thanks, right back at you.

  • ME GORAK B.C.™
  • Dave Vincent’s Perm

    Interesting how the UK media is like the prison bitch, being passed from the Zionists to the Saudis to Rupert Murdoch and back again.

  • Dubs

    I sent Abbott an email earlier this week when Joe and I first talked about this.

  • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

    What they should do is drill a hole in the skull of every refugee and shine a torch around in there to see if there’s any evil inside. Simples.

  • FRED DURST

    THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO TURN DOWN THE SAFETY OF OTHERS ARE FUCKING POSERS WHO CAN NEVER BE SAVED! NOT EVEN BY THE POWERS OF TRU METAL GOD FRUD DERST. FRUD DERST WILL BE DELIVERING A SWIFT KICK TO THE REAR END OF ANYONE WHO DOES NOT AGREE WITH FRUD DERST ON HELPING REFUGEES!

    -FRUD “NOT A POSER” DERST

    • Janitor Jim Duggan

      I couldn’t agree more. Spin kick the governors who don’t support helping these poor people.

  • Janitor Jim Duggan

    Just got rid of Russell Wilson from my fantasy team. I replaced him with Fitzpatrick who is doing better than Wilson has been doing. I still have the greatness of Derek Carr though on top of a formidable RB core.

    • ME GORAK B.C.™

      DEREK CARR ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RAIDERS SMAAAAAASH!!!!!!!!!

      • Janitor Jim Duggan

        I was smart to sign him. He’s been working wonders. W better prepare because his team is going to be getting their asses whooped.

  • Dubs

    Knowledge is a great tool for fighting ignorance and fear. One of the most useful resources I’ve found for understanding Muslim history (and really, if you claim to believe in an ideology, it’s a very good idea to study and understand the ideologies of others) is this blog. The history section will give you a better perspective for why certain things are written in the Quran, and the section on the Muslim Brotherhood will help you better understand the roots of Isis and how a select few racist and hateful dudes warped what was originally an attempt to bring the core values of the community into the modern era.

    http://attwiw.com/islamic-history-series/

    • Dubs

      Also, Karen Armstrong has some great books on the topic as well.

    • Hey Dubs, is it true that some point around or in the Middle Ages the Quran was altered or added on to in order to support some assholes warmongering agenda?

      • Dubs

        That’s kind of a hard question to answer because for many centuries, the Quran was purely an oral tradition. Whether or not Muhammed himself actually spoke it is actually historically debatable, but most scholars agree that he did and that a few centuries later was when the document itself was first written down. Since he was dead by that point, and because the ruling Caliphate wanted to stay in power, it’s possible that some alterations were made at some point in time.

        What you have to realize is that while the Quran was definitely a religious testament, it was also deeply political and rooted in Muahmmed admonishing his growing number of followers regarding a better way of life. When he was first preaching in Mecca, much of it was concerned with justice and right living. After the retreat to Medina, and as he was solidifying power, many of his sermons took on a more legalistic stance as he was giving his burgeoning community rules to follow for peace. An interesting thing that many people don’t realize is that Christians and Jews were part of the ummah (community) in Medina initially, and Muhammed himself referred to them as “brothers”. However, as political tensions between the leading tribes in Medina grew, some of the good will was lost as a legitimate threat to the destabilization of the community surfaced. You can see the evidence of this tension in the writing of the Dome of the Rock, which seems much more assertive that Islam is the only correct religion. That text was likely added after Muhammed’s death.

        So in short, it is possible. One thing a lot of people like to talk about is jihad, but the meaning of jihad has changed historically based on the state of the caliphate. In the original context of the ummah, it seemed to be a very political connotation directly meant against enemies of the well-being of the community, and believe me, Muhammed had a lot of enemies who resented his influence and the fact that he was preaching a monotheistic faith that differed from the highly profitable polytheistic faith of Mecca when he started. During later empires, the meaning of jihad tended to coincide more with the understanding of the internal, eternal jihad against evil within oneself. The resurgence of jihad as a tactic of terror is a relatively recent phenomenon rooted in the twisted teachings of salafism as it has come to mean rather than what it originally meant.

        • BEARD-SPLITTER

          DROPPIN SOME HISTORY

        • Dubs

          Edit: No likely added after Muhammed’s death, but definitely. The Dome of the Rock was completed during the Ummayyad (man I hope I spelled that right) Caliphate in the late 7th century.

        • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

          Could the same be said of the Old Testament, or the New Testament? Keep in mind, 15 years of Christ’s life is missing from the New Testament. And with the Quaran, there is a book written afterwards as a continuation, if I’m not mistaken.

          • Dubs

            Few things:

            1. The OT is a collection of books written over several centuries by different authors in different genres. At least Genesis was oral tradition. The interesting thing is that we do see a number of changes in political/temporal commands given to the people of Israel over the course of the old testament. When they initially entered the land of Canaan, they were told not to take wives from among the people. However, when they were later carried off into exile by the Assyrians and later the Babylonians, they were instructed to take wives and disperse themselves among the people and to work for the good of the cities in which they lived.

            2. It’s actually about 30 years. Aside from an episode where Christ stayed at the temple, not much is recorded about him beside his birth and ministry. There’s an easy explanation for that though. He didn’t start his public ministry till he was in his thirties. I think there are some extra-Biblical accounts in the apocrypha, but these tend to be either dubious, fraudulent, contradictory, or as the case with the gnostic texts, written by spiritualists divorced from the actual church.

            3. The establishment of the NT canon happened quite a bit earlier than people often expect. It was pretty quickly codified by the early church., The idea that Constantine had anything to do with it or that it happened at the council of Nicaea is historically inaccurate.

            4. You’re probably referencing the Hadith, which are an accompaniment to the Quran. The Quran are words most Muslims are sure were actually spoken by Muhammed during his life. Even though it’s possible there was historic modification, I tend to err on the side that there was probably little tampering. The Hadith, on the other hand, are possible sayings of Muhammed that some people might have heard. These are pretty hard to verify, and Sunni/Shia debate which ones might actually be accurate.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Thanks, the Hadith was the book I was thinking about.

          • Dubs

            You’re welcome.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            What’s your take on the Kabbalah? It’s been ages since I’ve read it, but pretty interesting, and has a lot in common with the Lotus Sutra (the basic book of Buddhism) as far as the universe is concerned.

          • Dubs

            I really am only aware of the general mystic nature of Kabbalah and haven’t really studied much else regarding it. I’m more familiar with Hinduism because the fact that the Vedas are extremely ancient and honestly beautiful has always intrigued me. I like some of the teachings of Buddhism, but I don’t know as much about it as I do Islam. Religion and myth/folklore have always intrigued me, though.

            Also, as an edit of my previous comment, I should have said Genesis was an oral tradition, not an oral history. I’m of the opinion that there are parts of it that definitely should not be seen as historical in nature.

        • Ah, thank you for this, W.

  • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

    ..

  • Edward/Breegrodamus™

    “Give me your tired, your poor,

    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

    GOOD: over the next ten days, I only have to work two of them.

  • The moral cowardice of the GOP never ceases to amaze me.

  • Poseur Diposeur

    This is really great guys. I teach English to, primarily, people from the Middle East and the ignorance that many Americans have about Muslims and their religion makes me sick. It’s great to see the Toilet spreading awareness about this stuff. Fortunately, I am from Washington State, which has a proud history of accepting refuges.

  • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

    Good: Busy as fuck the last few days (drunk as hell. You honestly don’t wanna know how much I’ve drank the last 4 days), and got my EBT paperwork done. My ex-boss is a fucking lump of ass who can’t fill out basic paperwork, so had to take care of that with the home office,Finished season 3 of Breaking Bad, and starting up on The Wire later tonight.

    Bad: Nothing much, really, now that I’ve taken care of everything. Missing Tapir on here, though.

    Ugly:

    • more beer

      What did you do to Tapir?

      • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

        It involved a rubber band, a lamp shade, and some lube, then he ran away.

        • more beer

          At least there was lube. It could have been much worse without it.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            At least it was me and not Charlie Sheen! Too soon?

          • more beer

            No shit. But I`m going to assume Tapir would have been one ugly porn star.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Breaking News: I infected Tapir with The Void. Contrary to rumors, he didn’t get banged by Charlie Sheen. And I didn’t infect you after that night of hot lovin’.

          • more beer

            in all fairness you`re not my type as you have a penis. Of course Charlie Sheen didn’t band Tapir. He is anti sex.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Correction: as metaphysical anus, he asserted he was androgynous.

            Conspiracy theory? You decide

          • Waynecro

            You used anus in a sentence with asserted. Nice.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Thats why i have that english degree, bro

          • more beer

            Are you sure it was asserted and not inserted?

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            “Goodnight, everybody!!”

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            You have a penis? You didn’t tell me that night! Now I’m wondering how I ended up behind that dumpster behind the back alley.

    • Edward/Breegrodamus™

      I’d recommend finishing Breaking Bad before starting The Wire. Let each consume you entirely.

      • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

        Will do! Season 3 has me hooked!

        • Edward/Breegrodamus™

          The end of s3 of Breaking Bad was awesome, but it’s got nothing on the end of s4, which has nothing at all on the 3rd to last episode of the series. Nothing!

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            So I’ve heard! The show builds the plot slowly, but surely. I can tell Walter is unwinding bit by bit. And Jesse is more of an idiot than ever, and Saul is, well, Saul.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            In my mind Breaking Bad produced the single greatest episode of television that has ever been produced. It’s #1 (the episode, though I have long included Breaking Bad in a debate for greatest series)

          • more beer

            When I lived in Albuquerque one of the film editors on BB lived next to my herb dealer. He would hang out and smoke with us. I would always ask him what was going to happen in the next season or episode. He would never divulge any info.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            I imagine he could have gotten in some trouble for spilling the beans, but good on him!

          • more beer

            I`m no rat. But yea there are non disclosure clauses in his contract. Hey but I had to try.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Why am I not amazed? New Mexico is a special kind of fucked up. Arizona as well.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Add NC

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            I dunno, people here like NC.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Of course, they do! Tell all those bastards to stay out of my side of the state!

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            I will be sure to tell Hampton Roads that! 😉

          • more beer

            Arizona is worse. I actually liked New Mexico. I still have a lot of friends there.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Texas is a bit better, but then again I’ve been to TX. Haven’t been to AZ or NM, and don’t care to.

          • more beer

            I have only been to El Paso in Texas. So I can’t really haven’t seen enough of Texas. To really have an opinion.of whether it is better or not.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            I was in Dallas for a few months (long story) when I was 7. Some of the best eats on earth!

          • more beer

            I have some friends in Dallas I may go there sometime during the winter when work is slow.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            I have some friends in Chicago if you need a place to kick it.

          • more beer

            I have friends there also. Plus some cousins I’ve never met.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Just a thought, and let me know, especially if you’re on the southside.

          • more beer

            I will. You are always welcome out here.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Where’s ‘out there’?

          • more beer

            Denver.

    • Did Tapir disappear again? What’d I miss?

      • KJM, Shake Zula

        The question I’ve been asking all week.

        • BEARD-SPLITTER

          There was probably another bro-orgy intertubing thing

      • more beer

        KJU said his departure involved A lampshade a rubber band and some lube. Even with the lube it doesn’t sound very fun.

      • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

        I dunno, but I miss the little golerdaier. 🙁

        • BEARD-SPLITTER

          WHERES MY FINNISH PUNCHING BAG!?

        • Maybe he’s just taking a break? (Is that Icelandic?)

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Yes it is. It means ‘bugger/asshole’ in Icelandic.

  • Stockhausen

    It’s astounding how giant the “middle ground” is here and how these state leaders refuse to see it. I can very much understand the governors of the states that are exploring that middle ground by asking questions and getting more information so they can know everything about the refugee process, background checks, etc. In the wake of any attack/tragedy some of the most important questions are ones asking if we could see it coming and if we could have prevented it. With that in mind and the information suggesting that a Paris attacker was granted refugee status in another country, I don’t blame any state leader for wanting to know every detail of the process as they search for ways to take in and help refugees. Safety and humanitarian compassion can exist together. Unfortunately, being a giant xenophobic chode and being in charge can also exist together.

  • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

    Did someone say ruckus?
    https://youtu.be/hR9F8t39Az4

    • BEARD-SPLITTER

      You heard the new Redman?

      • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

        Not all the way through yet just a few tracks.

        Have you seen this?

        https://youtu.be/pwvP1KRR-UI

        • BEARD-SPLITTER

          Do you remember methodman&redmans album?

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Yes?

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            I want another one. #favhiphopalbums

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            BLACKOUT 3!!

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            You meed to get on that Underachievers from this year. Prolly be my hiphop aoty

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            I will check it out.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            I have a Method/Redman live set from 1999 that I used to play a lot.

          • Lacertilian

            I still listen to selected tracks from those.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER
      • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

        I think I’ll listen to it tonight actually. Thank you for the reminder.

      • Been listening to it all week, it’s pretty solid. If you like Redman, you won’t be disappointed.

      • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

        About half way through, pretty good so far.

      • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

        Yeah, thats pretty killer. Underachievers up next.

        • BEARD-SPLITTER

          The second half is better than the first (concept album), and i havent decided if its better than Cellar Door: Terminus ut Exordium yet. But its fuckin tight

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            The first half is a lot calmer than most rap/hip-hop that i listen too, not a bad thing though, lyrics and delivery are spot on. And then the second half hits. A lot harder so far, still listening.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            It’s good, I think I like Mudface better though.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Racist

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Wait… what?

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Lawl

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            You got me. Good job! I was actually quite perplexed by your comment.

    • UP FROM THE THIRTY SIX CHAMBAAAAAAHHHHHHSS

      • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

        Its the GHOST, face, kilaaaaah

      • Lacertilian

        I always said “out from the 36 chambahhhhs”.
        Thank you.

  • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

    Ugly: Tool tickets went on sale today for their tour with Primus(more excited about them), they want 95 bucks for those things. Screw that.

    • BEARD-SPLITTER

      Yep, my neighbor was telling me theyre coming to Charlotte. Id like to see it but 95 is 5 times more than i like paying for a ticket. And for two bands that im not in love with. Nah.

      • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

        Seriously. I bought tickets to 2 different Clutch shows and Rush R40 for $95. Not gonna happen.

        • more beer

          Decent seats for Sabbath here are $160. As much as love them I just can`t bring myself to pay that.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Same here, lawn tickets are around $60. And I hate saying it, but I’m not sure they’re going to be around September next year.

          • more beer

            I can go to 8 or 10 shows for the price of that ticket.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Exactly.

          • more beer

            It’s not like I’m ever lacking for shows in Denver. I saw Misery Index and Hate Eternal on Wednesday night. Both of those bands brought it.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Hell yeah.
            I’m really not lacking shows either, last month i was able to see 5 of my favorite bands, all at the same venue, in top form.

          • more beer

            Nice. With California Death Fest I have probably seen 50 bands in the last month and a half. I will probably go to TBDM show at the end of the month for Iron Reagan and Goatwhore then leave.Then Agnostic Front next month. I see them every time they come through since they are old friends.

          • Waynecro

            I’ve seen Goatwhore a few times. They’re awesome.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Blackened goodness

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Same, i think twice. Very good.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Damn man. That sounds killer. I’d love to catch TBDM and Iron Regan live, already seen Goatwhore. Agnostic Front would be amazing. Have fun!

          • more beer

            I’ve seen TBDM I’ve never been that impressed with them. But I do want to see Iron Reagan and Goatwhore again. AF always put on a good show.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Veterans of the art.

          • more beer

            They have been doing it as long as I can remember..

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Going to see The Sword on December 2nd. After that, unless Tool announces a reasonably priced Boston date, who knows?

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Oh, hell yeah! The Sword kick ass. Their new album sounds good live.
            Don’t hold out on that Tool show…

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            If Tool announces a Boston show this time around, I’m there.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            I’ve seen the classic lineup 5 times since 1999. I’m good with that.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Show off…

            Just kidding. Thats bad ass!

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            I’m a coot. I’m so old my Social Security number is 1.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            I wish mine was 2

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            I’m so old that when God said “Let there be Light”, I was the one that had to flick the on switch.

          • more beer

            Mine starts with a zero. Which from what I understand means it’s an old one that has been recycled.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Ha!

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            In reality mine does too.

          • more beer

            That’s funny. It’s because we are old.

          • more beer

            I’ve seen them with both Ozzy and Dio. I will just go to a bunch of other shows instead.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            3 times with RJD including Mob Rules(my first show).

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Just twist the knife why don’t you…

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Even I have seen Sabbath and Ozzy. No desire to see more. Ozzy was perhaps the worst show ive ever seen.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Ozzy when?

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Late 90s or 2000

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Yeah, i can see that not being the best.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            If i wanted to see an addict get up in front of peopl, yell, and squirt people with a water hose, id go to thanksgiving dinner

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Daaaaayum!

          • more beer

            Sounds like holidays with my family. This is why I live nowhere near any of them.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Me neither, all (both sides) of my family are at least 5 hours away

          • more beer

            Mine are on either side of the country and I`m in the middle. But we party where I live on holidays.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Out of the 7 times I’ve seen various Ozzy-involved shows, I’ve only been disappointed twice. At Ozzfest 1998, he croaked his way through about 3 songs before me and my friend bailed to score food. We had just watched Tool at their peak play an incredible set and had no patience for his foolishness. Besides, food.

            At Ozzfest 2005, him and Bill Ward were lucky to make it through the show alive after being blown off the stage by Iron Maiden. I felt bad for Geezer & Tony. To his credit, Ozzy apologized several times for his bad performance, didn’t make it any more bearable though.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Im thinking around 98 was when i saw him solo too. Just bad. No other words for it.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            We went for Tool, Motorhead, and Megadeth that year.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            Its kinda hard to remember that far back to my youth. You understand 😉

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Maintaining a ticket stub collection helps me keep track. I still have a good memory for shows regardless.

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            I honestly dont remember prolly half the shows ive been to, as pathetic as that sounds .

            I know we had a good time tho.

            I try to buy a vinyl at every show now

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Lucky bastard.

          • more beer

            Only because I`m old.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Fine. Lucky OLD bastard.

            More beer, you’re still my hero.

          • more beer

            I’m just playing. But I must say I am honored.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Haha, i gotcha man. Don’t take me too seriously either. All in good fun.

          • more beer

            I know.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            “Lucky OLD bastard”

            You rang?

          • more beer

            He was talking to the other lucky old bastard.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Oh, ok. Gotta get the hearing aid fixed I guess…

          • more beer

            Wow you can still hear? I’m deaf as fuck from all these years of loud music.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            It’s a miracle I still can but yeah. The eardrums are still intact.

          • more beer

            Same here. Plus I’ve always run loud machinery at work. Except for when I was only washing widows.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross
  • Óðinn
    • more beer

      He is no Dez.

      • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

        Not at all.
        Did you see them too?

        • more beer

          No I fucking wish.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Whaaaat?!?! The one band you haven’t seen?

            They would have been killer to see.

          • more beer

            Yea tell me about. Especially since I have seen some of the other punk bands from California from that era. Circle Jerks 7 Seconds. Just never Black Flag.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Right on. Have you listened to Keith Morris’ newest project Off?

          • more beer

            I saw them with Negative Approach a couple of years ago.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Awesome.
            What did you think?

          • more beer

            I liked them. But it is not close to as good as Circle Jerks imo. But in all honesty I went to that show for Negative Approach.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Cool. They have a little different of a vibe than circle jerks, i know what you mean. I enjoy it.

          • more beer

            I certainly don’t dislike them. I just like Circle Jerks more.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Naturally.

    • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

      Hah! Supreme Leader has this:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcNEEps2lRw

      • Óðinn

        EINS, ZWEI, DREI, VIER
        BRDERCHEN, KOMM TANZ MIT MIR

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zSRcFxZVAA

        • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

          Sure, I’ll dance with you!

          • Óðinn

            Vielen Dank Kim Jong Un. Taco Dildo.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Taco: Putting On The Dick

  • Good: Iceland.
    Bad: The Earth’s rotation, which is responsible for the 8 fuckin hour plane ride back from Iceland. (It was 6 hours and change to get there, which was bad enough, but a two hour differential? Fuck rotation.)
    Ugly: Coming home to the pestilent pit of scum that is Phoenix.

  • BEARD-SPLITTER
  • KJM, Shake Zula

    Oh my party people! Don’t U DARE be sour!! Snort some crystals, shake dat ass, and FEEL da power!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guf0rOHJPEM

  • ┼yree
    • ┼yree
      • BEARD-SPLITTER

        I saw a band named Bulletvest and thought of you

      • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

        Beer, Bullet Belts, Battle Metal. The Tyree Trifecta.

    • How’s that Narwhal? I’m drinking the winter mix-pack as we speak . . .

      • ┼yree

        Strong! It’s damn good though.

        • There’s a coffee stout in my mixer. Probably nowhere near as good though. Jealousy.

    • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

      That beer is superb.

    • Óðinn

      What is this “beer” you speak of, Tyree? 😉

      • ┼yree

        Narwhal Imperial Stout by Sierra Nevada Brewing Co.

        • Óðinn

          Fuck yeah! Enjoy it, brother.

          • ┼yree

            Oh, I am my good sir.

      • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

        Mine:

        http://www.brokelyn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/colbert-big-flats.jpg

        I keep it sophisticated. Schlitz, Big Flats, Icehouse and Milwaukee’s Best or no dice! Fancy beers won’t ever hit my mouth, and I say that with a straight face.

  • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

    Good: As self appointed art guy at work I’ve been coming across some pretty neat paintings, like late 19th century French oils, Flemish water colours, and my favourite, a bunch by the noted canine painter Maude Earl (she worked for royalty, and one of hers sold for 22 grand at Christies a few years back) used for illustrations in a short work by John Galsworthy in which he reminisces about his furry companion. Right now I’m drinking Bells and listening to the Dodheimsgard from earlier this year. Not totally sold on the vocals but otherwise its mesmerising.

    Bad: I flaked out on a potentially really fun date recently because of anxiety and general personal failings that I need to work on. This has given me more than a few moments of regret.

  • Óðinn

    “The red states have backbone.” That’s an interesting spin on xenophobia and being afraid of refugees.

  • Óðinn

    “Security comes first”? It’s interesting how security didn’t come first when it came to allowing the citizens of Texas know where Koch Industries, and other corporations, are storing dangerous and explosive chemicals, even after a terrible explosion and tragedy in the State of Texas.

    http://videodelivery.nbcnews.com/now/bypass/mp4/3aaae01e-e0f4-439d-aa7a-8d5e3e774105/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000/3a41c6e4-93a3-4108-8995-64ffca7b9106/1c33e331-5b4f-49de-b38a-d59e9a86c4d8/0/0/1356/1595942139/content.mp4?sid=128

    • BEARD-SPLITTER

      Not to mention the deliberate and concentrated effort to change Texas schoolbooks to portray slaves as workers and that Noah had something to do with the laws of the US

  • KJM, Shake Zula

    So far Marvel’s Jessica Jones is worth it, watching the 1st episode.

    • Óðinn

      Good. I’ll have to check that out. Daredevil is good, and I expect the same from Jessica Jones.

      • KJM, Shake Zula

        You’ll get it, and in a completely different way despite taking place in the same universe, and even the same neighborhood, as Daredevil. It has a gritty, hard boiled tone about it, yet it’s lighthearted and funny(much more so than Daredevil) at the same time.

        • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

          I’m looking forward to it.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            I just finished the first episode.

            HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

            This show has a dark side that will give Game Of Thrones a run for it’s money. Fuck, I might even like this better than Daredevil by the time it’s done.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            Dang, work needs to hurry up and get done with.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            I was expecting this show to be quality tv, but I wasn’t prepared for this.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            That’s really good to hear

  • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

    Finished reading Ramsey Campbell’s The Doll Who Ate His Mother the other day. Quality stuff. No fireworks, but there’s a pervasive, addictive strangeness throughout (he seems to have great knack for succinctly skewed descriptions of the would be mundane), intriguing characterisations and some classy spooks. Worth a read for weird literature enthusiasts, though apparently he has written better (it’s his first, and the only one of his novels I’ve read).

  • BEARD-SPLITTER
  • bad: someone broke into my house today
    good: all they stole was the PS4 and a few games
    bad: Fallout 4 was one of those games
    good: cops got plenty of fingerprints. the idiot placed his hands on a few windows to look inside

    • Lacertilian

      That is fucked.
      He will feel the long claw of the law soon.
      (rfi)

      • ┼yree

        For fucking real! I can’t even imagine what I’d do if I walked into my place and all my Audio Equipment, Computer, CD’s, Records, and DVD’s were all stolen.

        EDIT: #SUICIDE

        • Lacertilian

          Kill. Everyone.

          • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

            With steel!

          • BEARD-SPLITTER

            If someone broke into my house i wouldnt care if they stole shit as much as compared to if they let my cat out or hurt her.

            If they did, dont be surprised if i go on a murder spree

          • If someone let my cat out while burgling I would FRISKY DINGO this whole fuckin planet.

          • more beer

            My cat would bother them to let him out.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Yeah, I’d be far more upset about that as well.

          • ┼yree

            Including my self.

        • whomever came in here had two eyes, saw everything i own. fingers crossed for no return visits!

    • BEARD-SPLITTER

      Theres nothing i hate more than a thief

    • side note: this is not even significant in comparison to what’s going on in the world.

      • KJM, Shake Zula

        It is significant. It’s not about the property. You should be able to feel safe in your own home.

    • more beer

      That sucks. I had an apartment broken into on Christmas eve. I hope they get the guy.

    • so….a 12-year old broke into your house?
      STill, sorry duder.

    • CyberneticOrganism

      Jesus, sorry to hear dude

    • KJM, Shake Zula

      Fuck. Hopefully with that much to work with, the cops will find this asshole.

    • tertius_decimus

      Let’s hope the justice will take this douche.

  • Janitor Jim Duggan

    Politicians are just like salesmen. They go door to door making you these incredible offers and the offers are usually shit. The salesman in this photo is probably a politician now

    • Boss the “Inspectah” Ross

      Pretty much.

      Have you heard the new Redman? You get name dropped.

      • Janitor Jim Duggan

        I get name dropped?

    • Lacertilian

      The only people who disregard my “Do Not Knock, No Canvassers Or Salespeople” sticker on my front door are religious people trying to recruit.

      • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

        My favourite is the No Soliciting – Unless You Have Thin Mints sign.

    • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

      If I ever go into politics my platform will be simply: Crushing Your Dreams!

      • more beer

        That is too honest. You will never get elected. Lie and say your dreams will come true. You have a career.

        • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

          ‘S a good point. The whole dreamer thing does seem to be working for Corbyn at the moment.

          • more beer

            Yea people buy into that bullshit like there is no tomorrow. Tell them the truth they want no part of it. Kind of like the whole change thing.

          • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

            I am actually an idealist at heart. But I’m also cynical as all get up. I believe in change for the better, but also getting all the harsh important shit done. And that the more things change, the more they stay the same.

          • more beer

            But being like that is a good thing. You at least realize the truth of certain situations. I would like to think things would change for the better. but in 50 years on this planet I’ve only things change for the worst.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Despite all the shit I’ve had to eat in life, I still have just enough optimism left to have a good time.

          • more beer

            I just refuse to let all of the assholes ruin my good time.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Exactly.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Obama’s ‘change’? That could be a whole other thing. I’m very 50/50 on that, especially being a Hyde Parker.

          • more beer

            Change for the worst.

          • Dave Vincent’s Perm

            Jeremy Corbyn wants to hold hands with ISIS and giggle as they put flowers in each other’s beards. It’s ridiculous that anyone takes him seriously.

    • ┼yree

      I’d totally let the guy in my house and let him sell me giant mascot heads.

    • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

      Fuck ’em, I don’t vote!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk

  • ┼yree

    All of these comments are fucking my computer up big time.

    • KJM, Shake Zula

      Sorry. : (

      • ┼yree

        No need. It’s just annoying is all. Comment over load.

        • KJM, Shake Zula

          Skip everything except my comments about Jessica Jones. You’ll be fine. ^_^

          • ┼yree

            Oh, how is that? Did it start yet? I love that woman! Hug me bro!

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Yep, it’s on Netflix now. I just finished the first episode and HOLY FUCKING SHIT. This show is DARK. By the end of episode 1, you will feel like someone punched you in the gut. You’ll need a double shot to calm your nerves. I’m still reeling.

          • ┼yree

            OH! Good news. I had no idea it was on Netflix. Will watch tomorrow.

          • ┼yree
          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Awesome.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            I smoked a bit the other day, but in the meantime I’ve drank 70 beers in the last 3 days. I think I’m pretty much stopping for quite a while.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            It would take me months to go through that amount of beer. Even at peak party animal, I’d have no more than 5-6 a night.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            I’m not much of a smoker, but I can drink like a motherfucker. Thankfully I’ve stayed away from hard liquor for two years. Lol, when I do drink, I can put anyone under the table. I gotta stop sometime, though.

          • more beer

            Dam dude you been on a mission!

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Lol, yep, and my stomach and bowels are paying up royally for it. Having to chill on that end for a while.

          • more beer

            Yea dude you don’t bounce back as quickly as you get older.

    • CyberneticOrganism

      Pour beer in it!

      • ┼yree

        My computer craves beer to function. What a piece of shit. I love it though.

        • CyberneticOrganism
        • KJM, Shake Zula

          My UltraMegaTower comes complete with Liquid THC CPU cooling and multiple intake vents for maximum stonage.

          • ┼yree

            I have not smoked or ate weed in over a year. I don’t know how to get the weed here; mostly because I am afraid too.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            In the Boston area, it’s pretty much de facto legal. Many cities here don’t even issue the $100 citations because it costs more tracking down people who don’t pay than it does to just let them go. I can stumble down to the local pub in my sweats and get a $60 bag and no one will think anything of it. If you know the right people, they’ll even deliver to your place.

          • ┼yree

            Yeah, still scares me. I have bad luck with most things like that.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            In 1988, I got 6 months unsupervised probation and a $125 fine for being seen smoking in public. That’s how bad it used to be. Nowadays you’re more likely to get in trouble here for smoking tobacco in public than pot.

          • ┼yree

            I live in State College PA. PSU. No way.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Agreed. You might as well be a galaxy away as far as that goes. I wouldn’t even feel safe smoking on my porch in that situation.

          • ┼yree

            You getz it!

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            Relatively speaking, I might as well be in Amsterdam.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Exactly. I’m a young cat, and I pretty much smoked up and drank everywhere back home. Alleys, the roof on my place, back of the bars, the beach front, abandoned buildings, parks, and countless friend’s houses. And not one ticket or cop call about it. Work, not so much. I tended to drink throughout the day more than anything.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            Chicago will give you citations, but only if you’re being a complete idiot about it, or trafficking. If you get busted on the southside, you’re just being an utter idiot.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            It’s actually official policy in Somerville that, if someone isn’t causing serious trouble, you can’t bust them for casual pot smoking unless they’re under 18.

  • J.R.™

    I’m seeing Donald Trump in Birmingham tomorrow. I’ll tell him you say Hello

    • more beer

      Knock that muskrat off of his head if you get a chance.

      • BEARD-SPLITTER

        And to, perhaps, die in a shallow ditch somewhere

        • more beer

          No you would probably go to jail. John Hinkley Jr shot Reagan and he gets fucking day passes out of the mental hospital. Trump is only a candidate.

          • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

            In good news, Jared Fogel just got 15 and a half years, and it’s looking like they’re tossing him in general population.

          • more beer

            Good that is what he deserves.

          • KJM, Shake Zula

            I still remember the Reagan/Lennon jokes. “Why couldn’t they have switched shooters?”

          • more beer

            Don’t Know?

    • Lacertilian

      The Alabama Comedy Club short on local talent?

    • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

      Tell him I say ‘bamba mi verga’! 😉

  • Phoenix of the House Tendies

    Tch. I miss the days when you could blow motherfuckers up and the whole world wouldn’t raise a stink about labels and prejudice. I don’t discriminate by race or gender or religion. You all get the flamethrower.

  • ┼yree
    • ┼yree

      @KJM@disqus_p2fcvVDyRD:disqus

      • KJM, Shake Zula

        I’ll check this later. I’m still binge watching.

        • ┼yree

          Good man.

    • BEARD-SPLITTER
    • KJM, Shake Zula

      Is it me, or does the vocalist sound like Iggy Pop?

      • BEARD-SPLITTER

        YES

  • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril

    Tapir 2016!

    • BEARD-SPLITTER

      Looks a lot like Ben Carson

  • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril
  • A Chili Dog In Each Nostril
  • BEARD-SPLITTER

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QDgiJFTcNJQ

    Vocals are what make this album not tight af