Flush It Friday: Don’t Be an Asshole

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¿Qué pasa, gente? Que ya es viernes, aupa!!

This week has surely been a string of five days, hasn’t it? How about that first thing? That was truly a test of my nouns. And the other thing? Forget about it. What else happened? Oh yeah, one of the bands I first fell in love with when I got into extreme metal could possibly include sexual predators amongst its members. Simply wonderful.

If you will, allow me to vent a bit about this subject, because as a middle-class white European dude who’s currently doing alright in life, this story is the thing that’s had me the most depressed and upset all week.

One of the things I remember most about my teenage summers in the US was sitting in my grandparents’ living room with a golden-finish Hamer guitar plugged into a Line6 Pocket Pod, listening to Decapitated while trying (and mostly succeeding) to work out the riffs in “Spheres of Madness” by ear. Throughout the years, I’ve followed the band closely, admiring Vogg’s resolve to continue on in the face of tragedy and listening to Organic Hallucinosis at least once a month for a long time. Decapitated are a band that I’ve really looked up to forever… which is why I currently don’t really know how to feel.

There are moments where I read the name and smile thinking of the times I’ve lived listening to their music, followed by anger and sadness at the prospect that they could have done something truly monstrous. I really don’t know if I’ll be able to listen to Decapitated’s music the same way again, but that fact sucks not even a microscopic fraction of the mental image that pops into my mind whenever I read about this whole mess. I’m trying my best to be the “both sides” guy and reserve judgement until all the details emerge, but as a longtime fan of the band, I’m finding it incredibly hard to do so.

If I had to sum up my feelings about this mess in words,

“IF SOMEONE SAYS NO, STOP IT, ASSHOLE”

 

If I had to sum them up in meme form,

FLUUUUUUUUUUUUUSH THIS CRAP UUUUUUGH

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GOOD: tons more awesome music came out today, and even though my pending playlist is never-ending, I’m discovering new music every day in no small part because of the Toilet and its readers. So thank all of you.

BAD: other than small life things, I just wrote like 300 words about it.

UGLY: the bruises I’m getting from jamming out to this groove:

Have a nice weekend folks! Eat fresh and be cool.

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  • The Good: The wife and I are expecting a baby boy, our second child, in January. Should be a blast!
    The Good-er: The family has not been sick all week. Which is the first time in several weeks that one of us has not been ill. Awesome!

    Friday!

    GL

  • Howard Dean

    Let me tell you something, brother: what a week. Eat, drink, and be merry. Enjoy yourselves, motherfuckers.

    Me entering the weekend:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjcRxeFy6OQ

  • sweetooth0

    GOOD: It’s Friday! Found out there is a planned director’s cut of the new It movie for home video (15 more minutes, HELL YES). A friend who used to work at the company I work at is coming to visit from Toronto this weekend, so there’s a get together Saturday. Should finally be able to finish my backyard reno project this weekend. Final bit of staining/water sealing, assembling the planters, moving some dirt, and that’s it for this year (till spring planting).

    BAD/UGLY: eh, not really anything right now frankly. Things are pretty good.

    • Rolderathis

      I really enjoyed the movie, Skarsgard’s Pennywise is a worthy successor to the unfuckwitableTim Curry.

      • sweetooth0

        I actually like the new one more. Tim Curry will always be a classic, but man Skarsgard hit it out of the park. The way he was drooling all over the place with ravenous hunger the more scared the kids got, his slightly fucked up eyes, bizzare voice that he seemed to only just be in control of. Man so rad.

        • Rolderathis

          They did a lot of crazy, creative stuff with his eyes. I’m pretty sure the way they roll around was influenced by the way great whites roll their eyes when taking a big bite of prey to protect their pupils. The rows of teeth were reminiscent too haha.

        • Lord of Bork

          I preferred Curry’s slightly more “human” take on it. Skarsgard’s was good, but it’s harder to believe kids would be lured in by what is obviously a drooling lunatic.

          • sweetooth0

            yeah I get that part of it, but other than Georgie, they never really had him lure them. He just showed up to scare the fuck out of em. And even George was more leery in this version than the book/mini-series. I kind of like the idea that It was trying to be what he thought would lure kids, but couldn’t quite pull it off, so even when he’s pretending to be nice, it just comes off weird and creepy

          • sweetooth0

            kinda like a real life child predator.

          • Lord of Bork

            I guess the new movie’s It is more…incompetent than the book?

          • sweetooth0

            I’d say so. But definitely more competent than the miniseries where he repeatedly will have the child in his grasp, only to just let them go for some unexplained reason.

          • GoatForest

            Fair enough.

        • Depechemodeisgangsta

          I saw the new version and i really enjoyed Skarsgard’s version of Pennywise, but at the same time, i probably have not seen the Tim Curry in over 15 years, also i did not find the movie scary at all, i though all the characters and the plot was very good overall.

        • GoatForest

          It was beautiful.

        • GoatForest

          Skardgard’s portrayal just has this disturbing alien quality to it that is plain unnerving.

  • ME GORAK™✓ᶜᵃᵛᵉᵐᵃⁿ
    • Rolderathis

      Your taste in beer is nearly as good as your taste in loincloths and blunt weapons.

      • ME GORAK™✓ᶜᵃᵛᵉᵐᵃⁿ

        GORAK CAN’T WAIT!!!!!!!!!! SCOTCH ALE FIRST TIMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Rolderathis

          Have you ever had Founder’s Devil Dancer Triple IPA? Shit is 12% abv!

          http://www.atlantacuisine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/foundersdevildancer275.jpg

          • I got a headache just looking at that beer.

          • ME GORAK™✓ᶜᵃᵛᵉᵐᵃⁿ
          • I like to say that I am not above any one beer, but in this case, I will make one exception. lol

          • ME GORAK™✓ᶜᵃᵛᵉᵐᵃⁿ

            THAT “BEER” SO BAD ME HAD TO DOWNVOTE OWN COMMENT 🙁

          • GoatForest

            Goddamn.

          • GoatForest

            So, it’s to beer what Monarch is to Whiskey?

          • ME GORAK™✓ᶜᵃᵛᵉᵐᵃⁿ

            GORAK NOT WHISKEY FAN MUCH!!!!!!! BUT IN TEQUILA WORLD STEEL RESERVE WOULD BE SOMETHING EVEN WORSE THAN LA PRIMA!!!!!!!!

            https://shop.iowaabd.com/images/product-page/089447.jpg

          • GoatForest

            Whoa.

          • ME GORAK™✓ᶜᵃᵛᵉᵐᵃⁿ
          • been over two years since i’ve tasted this stuff, but the flavor is still quite vivid in my mind.

          • ME GORAK™✓ᶜᵃᵛᵉᵐᵃⁿ

            GORAK SORRY IF MAKE JIMMY/DUSTY VOMIT!!!!!!!

          • no worries, i could stomach anything back in the day!

          • ME GORAK™✓ᶜᵃᵛᵉᵐᵃⁿ

            IT STILL ONLY BEER GORAK EVER VOMITED!!!!!

          • how many did you power through before your stomach gave up?

          • ME GORAK™✓ᶜᵃᵛᵉᵐᵃⁿ

            PRETTY SURE IT WAS 4!!!!!!! 2 DOOSES!!!!!!

          • more beer

            I hate that shit on I took a sip of it once, that was all I could take.

          • ME GORAK™✓ᶜᵃᵛᵉᵐᵃⁿ

            IT SCORE 60 ON BEER ADVOCATE!!!!!!!! THAT ABOUT 70 POINTS TOO HIGH!!!!!!!!!!! GORAK NEVER BELIEVE BEER ADVOCATE AGAIN(UNLESS THEM RECOMEND SOMETHING REALLY GOOD)

          • more beer

            At least 70 points too high. How could they even rate that shit? It isn’t even beer.

          • Howard Dean

            Steel Reserve: the flavor of turpentine, sweaty ass, and regret.

          • Lord of Bork

            Ah, the ol’ Steely Dan. Had some good times with those bad boys. I always told people that the 211 is how many homeless people die from its consumption every year.

          • ME GORAK™✓ᶜᵃᵛᵉᵐᵃⁿ

            DO LIKE GOOD IPA!!!!!!!! NEVER TRY THIS ONE!!!!!!! WILL TRACK SOME DOWN

          • ME GORAK™✓ᶜᵃᵛᵉᵐᵃⁿ
        • The Mighty Thorange

          I might be biased here but Scotch ale >>>>>>>>>>>>> And let me know what you think.

          • ME GORAK™✓ᶜᵃᵛᵉᵐᵃⁿ

            GORAK UPDATE: IT A DAMN SMOOTH BEER & HAVE NICE SMOKY AFTER TASTE!!!!!!!!! WOULD DRINK AGAIN!!!!!!!

    • TheGranulatingDarkSatanicMilfs
    • Elizabeth Short

      Their porter is definitely worth checking out if you’re into that sorta thang. The artwork on it’s great as well.

      • ME GORAK™✓ᶜᵃᵛᵉᵐᵃⁿ

        HAD PORTER COUPLE MONTHS AGO!!!!!! NOT QUITE AS GOOD AS EDMOND FITZGERALD IN TASTE OR ART BUT STILL EXCELLENT!!!!!!

        • Elizabeth Short

          Hrmph. Guess that’s a bit hard to argue. Concedeing point to smashy caveman. I always lean towards darker beers, but Dirty Bastard kills it on every level. You win.

  • EsusMoose

    good:warhammer total war
    bad:budgets
    ugly: effort

  • Rolderathis

    G: I’m a nerd and Divinity: Original Sin 2 came out on PC yesterday, going to local co-op with my GF and get my lizardman up to lvl 1000 this weekend. Also, I’m going to submit an article to the powers wot is and maybe it will be hosted here! Editors, is it ok that it’s 7000k words long, uses no punctuation, and randomly fluctuates in the use of capitalization?

    B: I noticed my elbow was bleeding profusely while looking in the mirror last night. Forgot to neosporin that bish, now it’s all swollen and I think I might pass away.

    U: My wenis rn.

    • TheCheezFace

      Oh shit, really? I didn’t know. I really enjoyed the first DOS (though I’ve only played the enhanced edition).

      Well, not like it really matters, I’m not on pc anyway.

  • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

    Good: managed to grab an original Threeman Recordings cd of the Nihilist demo’s.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FZpWZ-af4E

    • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

      Sucks: that whole Decapitated situation definitely stinks. You know, I’m a complete separate-art-from-artist kinda metal fan so (worst case scenario: they really did all of what they’re accused of and they get, in that case, rightfully convicted) I don’t really see myself having a hard time listening to Winds of Creation – which is really the only album I ever really loved by them.

      • Lord of Bork

        I’m in the same boat. If they committed the crime they’ll get their just desserts, and I’ll be over here listening to Nihility and Winds once every year or so, just like always.

        • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

          Even Nihility never did all that much for me. Winds all the way!
          In this case the crime is not to be taken lightly tho. Musicians spewing dumb crap is one thing – which I find pretty easy to look past – but pulling stuff like sexual assault is something else. I know of quite a few people in the area (one of them even a family member) who suffered abuse at some point in their existence and they’re literally scarred for life. When a woman says no, you just keep your pecker inside your pants – I don’t get why this is so difficult for some men.
          Still…(assuming they really committed the crime, because at this point nothing’s certain) it doesn’t take anything away from the music in itself imo.

          • Lord of Bork

            Yeah, I could see why this could be a dealbreaker for some people – if it is, I can’t blame them. But I don’t associate Decapitated’s music with the people behind the band the way I do Varg/Burzum, which I chose to stop listening to for this reason. If the guys in Decapitated are rapists, their music wasn’t an outlet for that side of them, unlike Varg or other NSBM musicians. That’s more where I draw the line.

          • FrankWhiteKingOfNY

            To be honest, I never understood why people said Varg’s “music” itself is bigoted. When I take his classic records like Det Som Engang Var, Hvis Lyset Tar Oss and Filosofem…all of the lyrics in these albums deal with nature, paganism, even some implicit Tolkien worship…but there isn’t a single trace of racism or even nationalism to be found in those albums’ subject matter. Varg himself, of course, is an idiot, but I don’t think anyone should feel bad about liking an album such as Filosofem.
            For that reason I don’t think it’s fair to lump his music in the NSBM category – because there are quite a few other bands that carry “NSBM” tag, but in reality they aren’t. Wikipedia usually isn’t a very good source in that respect; for instance Nokturnal Mortum is described as a “NSBM” while they dropped that rhetoric (including in their personal life) a long time ago. Same goes for Graveland, whose connection to NSBM was mostly due to his personal views (as his music himself was mostly about paganism, took lyrics from Tolkien’s writings, etc…) – in later years he also showed himself to be somewhat of a changed man.
            Bands like Goatmoon or Ad Hominem on the other hand are a great deal sketchier and in turn not really the type of bands I find myself listening to.

  • Janitor Jim Duggan

    Good: seeing Randy Newman tomorrow, endless shrimp at Red Lobster is back

    Bad: I ate too much shrimp yestetday

    Ugly: Icehouse beer. I tried it once when I went swimming and it was awful.

  • The Mighty Thorange

    Good: I have a friends birthday party in Edinburgh tomorrow. The beer, whisky and tequila will flow profusely. Also have a job interview tomorrow so hopefully this unemployment problem will be fixed.
    Bad: Can’t really think of anything so this is also good.
    Ugly: the fear of maybe being told to shave to get this job. I don’t see why I would be told but it is still a worrying thought.
    Metal: I am fucking addicted to Endless Skies by Ashbury right now. First heard it yesterday and it’s been on constant repeat since. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rb7d_zque0

    • it’s a good album. i accidentally ordered it on cassette, thinking they would include a digital copy on bandcamp. nope :/
      KSoFM first introduced me to the band. RIP in peace.

      • The Mighty Thorange

        That album on cassette should sound fucking killer though! Why the R.I.P though? Did Ashbury break up or something? I have been trying to find out more about the band but can’t find much.

        • Haha, I meant RIP to KSoFM. Haven’t seen that ole bugger in ages. I don’t have a cassette player yet, but with the trend in music lately, ima have to snag one

          • The Mighty Thorange

            Ah cool. A Mate of mine gave his old tape player a few months ago but I don’t actually have any tapes to play in it. Hopefully I can afford some if I get this job though!

          • dude you can use me as a reference for the new job. “i know The Mighty Thorange both on Disqus and on Facebook, he’s a quality bro. very noice and has great work ethics. amen.”

          • The Mighty Thorange

            Cheers Dusty. It went well and I am going in for trial shift later this week.

          • Señor Jefe El Rossover

            Gotta listen to Horrid Dominion somehow!

    • Hans

      You have an interview on a Saturday?

      • The Mighty Thorange

        Yeah. I was suprised too. I e-mailed them my C.V on Friday afternoon and they phoned about half an hour later. They must be desperate. I hope they’re fucking desperate. It is for a bartending job at a hotel so I suppose weekends are their busiest times.

        • Hans

          Good luck man!

          • The Mighty Thorange

            Cheers dude! I seem to have got the job. They said they would phone me tomorrow with a time and date for a trial shift.

  • Elegant Gazing Globe

    Ugly: I got this keg of Oktoberfest and I can’t drink more than two pints without getting a raging headache

  • Depechemodeisgangsta

    Hey guy’s hope everyone is doing OK, i was dealing with the whole Hurricane Irma, but everything is fine down here, the worst thing was that we lost power for 5 days, and we had very spotty cell service but again this are 1st world problems, and i’m not complaining.
    Looking forward to today, they did not cancelled today Depeche Mode, so once i leave work, i go home take shower then is about a 20 minutes drive, also i just saw that whole Decapitated thing, uff some serious stuff.

  • today in St. Louis, a police offer was found “not guilty” of killing a dude (a person he actually did kill). protesters are filling the streets downtown.
    let’s combine this with the bullshit going on in the White House, bullshit going on with Decapitated, bullshit going on in Charlotesville, bullshit going on with the resurgence of fascism. we’re all fucked.
    Good: i planted some rill pretty sunflowers in front of the house.

    • more beer

      Google how many neo-Nazi’s there are in America. there is no definitive number what so ever. The only number I can find is there are between 5000 & 8000 Klan members. There are no numbers for the rest of the white supremacist in America. Which makes me think that the numbers aren’t as high as the media is trying to portray. This is just fear mongering at its best. We live in a nation of 323 million if there are 100,0000 I would be surprised. Do some research I have, and I think that this is being fed to us to keep us divided.

      • Hope you’re correct. It’s a vocal minority. I’m pretty sick of this country being divided tho. I love getting along with people, and would assume others would too. Alas, everything I see on the Internet and in the media indicates otherwise 🙁

        • more beer

          Here’s a story for you. About 25 years ago my brother was at work as a lifeguard at a Marriott Hotel in New York, It was early Sunday morning and no one was around s he was reading the newspaper. This old guy came in and they started talking to him. The old dude said don’t believe 75% of the shit you are reading, my brother asked him what are you talking about? The old guy replied I just retired from being a managing editor at the NY Times for the last 35 years, and I am telling you 75% of what you are reading is bullshit, don’t believe any of it. I am sure today it is close to 90%. Think about this, how much has your life really changed since Trump took office? Mine is the same as it has always been, I still get up and go to work and go out to shows and do my thing. Just the same as it has been with every president since Reagan. I am willing to bet almost everyone who comments here hasn’t had their life change that much or if at all either. Are there injustices in the world? Sure there are it has been that way since the beginning of time and will remain that way. It’s the way it is and it isn’t going to change. Are there neo- Nazis sure, let them make their noise enjoy their first amendment rights just like the rest of us re allowed to. There aren’t enough of them to have any political sway. There are also almost 200 black supremacist groups as well, they have no sway either, but we don’t hear a peep about them. Because they aren’t a big enough boogyman to district the masses. All of this kind of shit is a way of dividing and conquering we the people. It is easier for those in charge to stay in charge and control us if we are fighting among ourselves. They want things to be this way. People need to forget about their party and remember we are all Americans. The sooner people start to realize these things, the sooner thing start to improve. So don’t believe probably 90% of what the media is feeding you because it is all bullshit.

          • great point, mr. beer. for example, here in STL things aren’t as bad as the media portrays. only controversial stories make the headlines.
            i just need to unplug from the internet.

          • more beer

            Exactly, anything controversial distracts people from what is really going on. You don’t need to unplug, you just need to check sources and find out the truth for yourself. Information is power as long as you have the right information.

          • ME GORAK™✓ᶜᵃᵛᵉᵐᵃⁿ

            CHEERS TO ALL THAT, MORE BEER!!!!!!!

          • more beer

            Thanks Gorak and cheers to you.

        • Óðinn

          It was interesting to hear about Donald Trumps supporters this week abandon him in droves based on the rumor that he would no longer build the wall. After all of the terrible things he’s stood for, and his complete lack of competency, the one thing his supporters couldn’t bear was the thought that he might not build the wall. The wall is about racism. Let’s be honest, Donald Trump won largely due to racism. America has a huge racism problem. St. Louis has separate white and black police unions for fucks sake, in 2017. Racism is what keeps us divided. As long as working class white Joe Six Pack is pointing at “blacks”, “Mexicans”, and “the gays” as his problem, he doesn’t know that it’s rich old rich white guys like Donald Trump and Charles and David Koch who actually have their boots on his kneck.

          • more beer

            More white people get shot by the cops than black people do every year, that is a fact. Most Americans are not racist. I am so sick of this bullshit narrative. It is things like this that keep us divided. But if you want to keep believing this shit, we will remain divided. It is 2017 everyone in America has a choice to either better themselves or not. But blaming others for ones shortcomings is never a solution, which there seems to be a lot of these days. You have two options here work hard for what you want and you will achieve your goals, or don’t and you won’t. But nothing in life worth anything, is achieved without hard work. But it so much easier for people to blame everyone else for their failures but themselves. All of this finger pointing is out of control, it is time for people to start taking personal responsibility for where they are in life. There are no easy solutions to a lot of our problems. But blaming others for ones problems isn’t a solution it is a big part of the problem.

          • Óðinn

            Yes. More white people are killed by police, but white people far outnumber the number of black people. Black people are 2.5-3 times more likely to be killed by police, and twice as likely to be killed when unarmed. Not all Americans are racist, but too many Americans are racist.

            Whites blaming others for their problems and failures in spite of their relative privilege and the fact that minorities are not keeping them down is the problem. So at least we can agree on that.

            Ignoring actual racism doesn’t solve the problem for anybody except for those who benefit from it.

        • POLITICS AND NEWS ARE FOR CHODES WE CAN DO A BIGGER DIFFERENCE IN OUR IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOODS IN MY CASE THAT MEANS CHASING STUPID CHADS OFF MY LAWN

  • Guppusmaximus

    I used to mentally gravitate towards a guilty outcome when watching or reading about people suspected of crimes until I started to learn about our Constitution and just how lopsided our legal system really is. The imprisonment of innocent people due to the antiquated, inefficient & inaccurate methods used to find the truth and the Supreme Court ruling that cops can be ignorant of the law, they can lie to you and evidence gathered without a warrant can still be considered admissible. Unfortunately, for a long time now I realize that this constant mentality of the public that if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about shows just how complacent & ignorant the majority of the people seem to be.

    Obviously, they deserve to be punished if they are guilty BUT they are innocent until proven otherwise.

  • GoatForest

    The Good: I’m enjoying a mini vacation with my wife.
    The Bad: I dunno, drinks can be expensive?
    The Ugly: Man, my feet are gross.

    • Hans

      I’m with you on dem feet. Question is, do we listen to metal because we have gross feet or is it the other way around?

      • GoatForest

        Good question.

  • TheGranulatingDarkSatanicMilfs
    • themaleshoegaze

      ‘Sorry Somehow’ was stuck in my head all day and I listened to it + ‘I don’t wanna know…’ + assorted others multiple times yesterday and today. Genius. RIP.

  • Retchin’ Rites ov Karhu

    BAD: Life kicked me in the groins
    GOOD: It’s been coming for a time, and I’m glad it’s finally over. Also I’ve gotten a few decent songs out of it.
    UGLY: Don’t got nothing.

  • KJM, Blood Farmer

    Breaking News: Harry Dean Stanton R.I.P.

  • Hans

    Good: Just got back from seeing Entrench and Ripper, who both delivered hella tight sets and were great fun.

    Bad: Why yes, of course there was a local opener who disregarded some important commandments (mostly length of set and stage banter).

    Ugly: The people I met with at the venue were mostly there to see said opener and left after Entrench. I had a good time with them, but still, BOOOO!

    • Lacertilian

      Fucking serious?
      They missed Entrench and RIPPER? Who the fuck were the local band? Kreator circa-1986?
      That’s sad as shit.

      • Hans

        Haha! They “only” missed Ripper, but yeah, SAD. Opener was Torture Gut; Br00dle def meddl.

        • Lacertilian

          Ahh I see, you’d think they’d have lined-up a thrash band as a support with those bands touring.
          I’d do some real fucked up shit to see Ripper touring right now. Glad you got to check them out!

  • HessianHunter

    Good – somehow wrote the most popular TovH article ever. Wtf tho

    Bad – My cat got bit by some animal and is on antibiotics so we had to ground her – no outside for two weeks.

    Ugly – My fucking phlegm balls from the horrible coughing/congestion/headache disease I’m still recovering from.

    • your most popular article view count far exceeded the 2nd best article view count. be proud!

  • MaximusMurderous

    the fact Vogg came forward with a DNA swab where the others didn’t is the part that’s really damning and makes it hard to be both sides guy imo

  • ‘Presumption of innocence’ is the phrase you’re looking for.