Flush it Friday: A New America

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It’s Friday afternoon and things will never be the same.

This afternoon there was a peaceful transition of power. The outgoing President, a centrist, has being replaced by a billionaire with a sub-high school level understanding of government, an unquenchable thirst for riches, and an army of ultra-nationalist followers.

Far-right wing politicians control in all three branches of government and they’ve mandated the destruction of the things Americans need most. A deeply flawed but partially effective ACA will be repealed, leaving millions of Americans without health insurance. Cuts to medicare and social security will leave our poorest and most vulnerable citizens without a safety net. Public broadcasting and the National Endowment for the Arts will be eliminated. National lands, our birthright, will lose federal designation, allowing them to be abused by the oil and gas industry. Climate change will be willfully denied, endangering the entire planet. Are you pissed? Too bad. Republicans are fast at work trying to outlaw peaceful protest.

Worse still, Donald Trump’s sycophantic supporters have been emboldened by his unexpected victory. They call themselves “nationalists”, “deplorables”, or members of “the alt-right”. They are fascists, whether they feel comfortable with that name or not. These fan boys no longer feel the need to hide their prejudice or disdain for women or people of color. Even Republican lawmakers have decided to get in on the pussy grabbing fun that Trump has advocated. It cannot stand.

This is the darkest morning in America that I can recall. But we don’t have to cower in fear or numb ourselves with childish escapist fantasy. There are far, far more Americans that are tired and disgusted by the events unfolding in our country than there are cowardly fascists that would have their way with us. There is strength in numbers and we must unite together. Band together with your friends, your family. Find or form a local organization to stand up for your beliefs, and toss a monkey wrench into the right-wing machine. Personally, I’d recommend joining DSA.

This is our country. Rise. Resist. Overcome.

  • King Shit of Fuck Mountain
    • Howard Dean

      Now that the entire country has apparently become brown-shirt-wearing, NSDAP-card-carrying, Night-of-the-Long-Knives worshiping stormtroopers after today’s inauguration, we damn well better start seeing nightly weather reports like this:

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/618deb20c04562e48f39249e34345727c2a9bf792515e860625620e9500e66be.jpg

      • Kevin Nash’s Jackknife

        I’m going to hell for laughing at that.

      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        You god damned right!!!!! Cloudy with a chance of fucking genocide!!!!!!

  • tigeraid

    We’re off to a rolling start, as the White House web page has erased all links and information regarding Climate Change.

    Be as positive as you can be, my American brothers and sisters.

    • nbm02ss

      Vaccine safety panel with an avowed anti-vaccer at the helm is equally cause for concern.

      • EsusMoose

        Who needs science, studies or proof when you just kinda feel you’re right and have all the power?

        • RepostedAvengedSevenfoldFan2

          Science is basically an inoculation against charlatans.

          -Neil deGrasse Tyson

      • tigeraid

        And a man in charge of Nuclear Energy who doesn’t know what it is, can’t spell it and can’t pronounce it.

        • Nu-kyoo-lar

        • Depechemodeisgangsta

          That was one of the most shocking things i have heard of, specially someone who has been in the politics game for a long time.

    • RepostedAvengedSevenfoldFan2

      why they gotta be so fucking ?! ?

      -Posted by Camyla_Lima, Sep 28 2011

  • Kevin Nash’s Jackknife

    Good: Seeing my friend’s band perform tonight
    Bad: Politics
    Ugly Politics

  • tigeraid

    The Good: Pretty awful day. Not much good.
    The Bad: Trump.
    The Ugly: Kevin O’Leary, our version of Trump, just announced his candidacy for the Conservatives here. A shitty, old, white, bald failed businessman who’s had minor success as a Reality TV star, hates poor people and Muslims, shits on the environment and wants to “bring jobs back to Canada.” Sound familiar?

  • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

    Joe 4 Prez!

    • RepostedAvengedSevenfoldFan2

      He makes me melt like a popsicle on the 4th of July.

      -Elizabeth Akers, 1 year ago, in reply to InsertCleverNameHereKerry

  • Dr. K

    Well said, Joe, and good choice of song. I’m in more of a nihilistic, destructive war metal kinda state today, but I’ll get back to d-beating toward better things tomorrow, probably.

  • Maik Beninton™
    • Special Agent Dale Cooper

      All of this, every last ounce of this.

  • Well, on the bright side, up in Canada we’re about to get 30 – 40cm of snow, and I’m working some OT tomorrow (hospitals don’t close for weather), which means shoveling. My “only to Deicide while I shovel the driveway” policy brings me to “The Stench of Redemption,” which is a fucking good album.

    • Ayyy, a fellow healthcare worker? Let’s test out this fist-bump emoji: ?

      • Yeah man! Psychiatric RN on a forensics unit. Healthcare represent!?

  • Guacamole Jim

    Holy hell, you went and did it.

    The good: I’m Canadian.

    The bad: Donald Trump is your president.

    The ugly: Donald fucking Trump. For real.

    Fuck fascists.

    • GoatForest

      Yar.

    • Óðinn

      Fuck fascists.

  • Dave Vincent’s Perm

    Good: Kinda digging the Bolzer full-length
    Bad: I miss the vocals from the Soma EP.

    • Black Smallbeard

      ive gone 180. its now my fav Bolzer release

      • Dave Vincent’s Perm

        Love the riffs and imagery and the heathen shouts but I wish the harsh vocals were harsher.

      • Howard Dean

        Not my favorite (I put it in the same ballpark as Soma, with Roman Acupuncture and Aura above it), but a really solid album. It’s grown on me tremendously. Very massive sound.

        • Black Smallbeard

          i rly dig it. its more ritual, darker, more melody i think. previous albums were just too mich regular DM for me

  • Black Smallbeard

    Good: my day was fine. ordered some vinyl, got home early. making burritos tonight.

    Bad: gotta fix the gutter this weekend but it might rain

    Ugly: more commie meltdowns. a year after riots in the primaries, riots before the election, and now riots on the inaugruation. the party of peace? PAH love? PAH understanding? PAH! yet again the only violence we see comes from the compassionate left

    • Smashing fascists is as American as apple pie. Our grandfathers got medals for it.

      • Black Smallbeard

        smashing private business’ windows and inhibiting free speech and the rest of the first amendment. i think yall got it backwards

        • You got me. I was responsible for a handful of broken windows today. Guess every leftist should just go to jail 🙁

          • Black Smallbeard

            no but if you were out busting windows then you should go to jail. and probably pay a fine

        • Remember when a group of heavily armed right-wing crazies occupied government owned land and buildings? No, of course not. Only leftists are the violent ones.

          • Black Smallbeard

            if i recall, the only violence inflicted between themselves, and those involved were charged. dont recall them going out and destroying property of private citizens, assaulting other people, amongst other things

          • Óðinn

            Yeah, except for the fact that one of them got in a gun fight with police.

      • “A riot is the language of the unheard” – MLK

      • Kevin Nash’s Jackknife

        My grandfather was in World War 2. He wouldn’t approve of you saying that all Republicans are fascists because they’re not.

        • I didn’t call all republicans fascists. I am saying that a whole lotta fascists are republicans in this, the year of our lord 2k17.

          • Kevin Nash’s Jackknife

            Oh. That I agree with. A lot of fascists are Republicans at this point. I’m a Republican but I’m not a fascist or a Trump supporter.

          • Depechemodeisgangsta

            I think people do forget sometimes, that before the Republican party was the one who freed the slaves (Lincoln) and that when president JFK made schools open for Black people and wanted the Civil right Act, that a lot of those Southern Democrats, didn’t want that and they switch party and went from being Democrats to Republicans.

          • Black Smallbeard

            the parties flipped long before the civil rights act. another shameful democrat lie

            buncha racists lol

          • Black Smallbeard

            a whole lot of democrats are fascists too

          • I’m not exactly the type of dude to cape for Democrats, but go ahead and expand on that.

          • Black Smallbeard

            youre not that type of dude, are you? cmon joe.

            and to anyone who doesnt see the antithesis of trump supporters as also being extremists (complete government control is the definition of fascism) then youre kidding yourself.

          • Black Smallbeard

            lol yeah man. that isnt the definition that shows up there for any reason. you notice how it doesnt actually define anything about fascism. gj liberal google.

            we see that merriam webater defines fascism as “often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition” nothing about right wing or nationalism there. in fact, sounds quite a bit like democrats to me

          • LIBERAL GOOGLE/LIBERAL MIRIAM WEBSTER STRIKE AGAIN. FACTS ARE ALL BULLSHIT.

          • Depechemodeisgangsta

            Please remember that FACTS died on 2016.

      • RJA
    • Spear

      And a $10 trillion increase to the national debt ceiling was voted in so Republicans could stop that fiscally irresponsible ACA. Pardon me if I feel like smashing some windows.

      • Black Smallbeard

        10 trillion under Obummer, you mean?

        US debt soars 86% under Obama presidency to nearly $20 trillion. The United States national debt will have grown by about $9 trillion to over $19.6 trillion under President Barack Obama, according to the website USdebtclock.org

        .. . . who are yall mad at the debt about?

        and a healthcare MANDATE is the TEXTBOOK DEFINITION of fascism

  • RepostedAvengedSevenfoldFan2

    I dont know if I should take what he says seriously or not. I’ve never been to warped tour.

    -BryanBloodrayne666, 3 months ago

  • Went to a comedy show in support of the ACLU last night and it was two solid hours of Trump-fueled rage.

    • RustyShackleford

      Awesome. Honestly, I’m not sure anything pisses off President Dipshit more than people making fun of him.

      • KyleJMcBride

        He is so fucking thin skinned. Nobody has whinier Twitter meltdowns than him. His buttons are so easy to push.

      • TheGranulatingDarkSatanicMilfs

        Indeed. Watching him lose his shit on Twitter because of the golden showers thing was just hilarious

    • GoatForest

      That’s why comedy is gonna be useful over the next four years.

      • Useful and repetitive. :/

        • GoatForest

          Lewis Black is gonna get rich.

  • Howard Dean

    Good: I ate an awesome BLT today and had this massive brownie. Shit was delicious.

    Bad: Nothing. Like my dear friend Ricky up in Sunnyvale Trailer Park: I’m not a pessimist, I’m an optometrist.

    Ugly: The way my stomach feels after eating a massive BLT and a three pound brownie for lunch.

    Metal: Obituary – Slowly We Rot

    • Space Monster W.

      I’m sure you’re exaggerating the size of a brownie, but on the real, I dunno that I could eat three pounds of brownie in a day.

      • Howard Dean

        Three pounds was an exaggeration, but one pound certainly isn’t. The thing was roughly three inches by three inches by two inches, and about as dense as Portland cement. Incredibly rich, too–like straight up cocoa butter and egg. I couldn’t stop eating it. And then I finished it and thought “my god, what have I done?!” Not my proudest moment.

        • Hubert

          I usually skip the “My God, what have I done?!” part.

        • Space Monster W.

          I more or less did the same with all the left-over no-bake cookies I had last December.

        • CyberneticOrganism

          I had one of those at a wedding recently after I was proud of myself for sticking to the healthy stuff at dinner. I could have eaten one for breakfast and it would have fueled me for the whole goddamn day.

  • Good: SOOO much good music has already been confirmed for this year

    Bad: SOOO much good music has already been confirmed for this year

    Ugly: Certain events taking place today

  • Kevin Nash’s Jackknife

    I have no desire to talk about politricks. Fuck politricks. We need to stop letting it rule our lives. It’s destroying us as a people and I will not stand for it.

    • KyleJMcBride

      “destroying”? Nah, that’s past tense. This outcome was pre-determined the moment we elected a 3rd rate actor President back in 1980.

      • Kevin Nash’s Jackknife

        My dad says that Reagan was a good president. I can’t agree with him on that. I don’t talk with him about politics because he knows an extreme amount about it and I don’t understand politics much. He spends most of the day in political discussion groups on Facebook and reading news from all different news sites.

        • KyleJMcBride

          I’m not gonna trash talk your dad, but Reagan was senile for about 60% of his presidency.

          • Kevin Nash’s Jackknife

            Really? I didn’t know that.

          • KyleJMcBride

            In a way, Reagan was the GOPs response to the Watergate scandal. You should read more about him, especially the 1980 election.

          • Depechemodeisgangsta

            I think the Reagan Administration was the one, with the most investigations regarding, scandals, indictment.
            The main one is the Iran-Contra, when they sold weapons to Iran, and the money went to support the “Contra” which was to threw out of power the “Communist” in Nicaragua, there a re a couple of movies out there about that, and most of that got put under the rug, since the next president was the 1st Bush, since he was the VP of Reagan.
            Another one was how they screw the housing system, the way they handled the “War on Drugs”, and the whole, let’s cut taxes “Loopholes” which ended costing taxpayers over $150 Billions,
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

            Sorry to get too Political about it, I really hope we can all get along as humans, and that is not that bad as some people expect it to be.

        • Ronald Wilson Reagan – 666

    • Howard Dean

      Oh shit! JJD is mad as hell, and he’s not going to take it anymore! (He and millions of other Americans who are going to vent on social media for awhile before binge watching some mundane show on Netflix this weekend and going back to their jobs on Monday morning because by and large nothing has changed).

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwMVMbmQBug

      • Kevin Nash’s Jackknife

        I’m not actually a political person. I just hate what it’s doing to people’s friendships and relationships.

      • tigeraid

        Such a good flick.

    • I’m interpreting your statement as “we need less government!” and therefore will agree with it.

  • RustyShackleford

    Well said my man. I would also recommend checking out this guide that I am in the process of reading through myself. It is written by former congressional staffers/aides and gives a lot of advice about how to get involved at the local level, something many on the left (myself included) have forgotten about. (https://www.indivisibleguide.com/). It is quite long but worth it and totally free to download. My local congressman is an “anti-Trump” Republican and I plan to hold him accountable as all hell. Getting drunk tonight though. Yep!

    • GoatForest

      I got an open bottle of Buffalo Trace right here.

    • Stockhausen

      Thanks for that link, I’ll be looking into that! I’ll also be looking into this bottle of bourbon tonight, like GoatForest here.

      • Going to take this opportunity to thank you for that Veilburner review you did earlier, Stockhausen. Just re-encountered their stuff via the sampler that got posted yesterday.

        • Stockhausen

          Eyyy, glad to hear it! Those guys make some quality weirdo metal.

  • I echo Joe’s as sentiments. Now more than ever we need to form a massive coalition of people to resist this doughy Orange POS. I do believe Don will be impeached before his 4 years is up and we’ll have Silvermane Pence.

    Good: Started a new position at my job, no change in income yet, but hoping that will change.
    Bad: Need a new dishwasher and oven
    Ugly: Don

    • Congrats on the new position!

      • Thx, not really a promotion. My old position was outsourced and some higher ups vouched to retain me. Still tied to my previous work unfortunately.

        • I gotcha. Well then I shift my congrats to you for always being blasting!

        • It says something that they wanted to keep you on!

  • KyleJMcBride
  • tigeraid

    Judging by the size of the crowd, he should’ve held inauguration in Pine Bluff, Arkansas.

    • Óðinn

      Or a conference room at Best Western in Boise.

  • Elegant Gazing Globe
  • KyleJMcBride

    Ooh, this is gonna go well! Good thing I have lots of herb and sub strips!!

  • KyleJMcBride
  • KyleJMcBride

    We should’ve just asked the East India Company pretty pleez, with sugar on top, to go sell their tea somewhere else.

  • Elegant Gazing Globe
  • Spear
    • Special Agent Dale Cooper

      Dammit, you got there before I could.

  • CyberneticOrganism

    Fuck it, let’s burn it all down and start over.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q

  • Blast it! I was really hoping it would be Waynecro in the Oval Office. What happened? Didn’t you all vote?

    • Space Monster W.

      I think the ballot mistook all those Waynecro votes for Harambe.

      • CyberneticOrganism

        It’s the body hair, isn’t it?

        • Space Monster W.

          And the gorilla-esque physique.

          • Waynecro

            Awww, thank you!

        • Waynecro

          If I had as much hair as a gorilla does, I wouldn’t rock a mesh tank top as often as I do.

      • Waynecro

        Well, he did have a much more impressive social-media footprint.

    • WAYNECRO IS A KENYAN MUSLIM EXTREMIST

      • Waynecro

        MEDIA BIAS!!! MEDIA BIAS!!! LIES AND SLANDER!!!

        • SHOW ME YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE

          • Waynecro

            Will you accept a PSD file?

          • NOPE. YOU MUST PRESENT THE CERTIFICATE IN PERSON TO OUR OFFICES BY 4:00 PM EST.

          • Waynecro

            I hate leaving the house, so molon labe, I guess.

          • Black Smallbeard

            LOL

    • Spear

      Waynecro 2020! Let’s start campaigning now.

      • Waynecro

        I’ll start the campaign now by promising that I’ll probably try to be alive in 2020.

    • KyleJMcBride

      “Don’t Blame Me, I voted Waynecro!!”

      • Waynecro

        Selling that shirt will finance my next presidential campaign.

    • Waynecro

      I’ll admit that my campaign really fell short in the realm of social-media outreach. Without a Facebook account, I just couldn’t reach all the butthurt-millennial voters.

      • CyberneticOrganism

        The next time you see a parent ignoring where their toddler is wandering off to, grab it and start dragging it around

        • Waynecro

          You know, I don’t like kids, but I think Americans should be having them. WE NEED MORE PEOPLE THAN CHINA HAS!!!

      • Your next secret weapon: Google+

        • Waynecro

          That really is a secret.

  • TheGranulatingDarkSatanicMilfs

    The Good: Saw Brujeria this week. Some dude bought me a bunch of beers because I knew the lyrics to Carnivore’s “Race War”

    The Bad: My crappy Truetone power supply finally gave up the ghost. I was never really happy with it anyway, and I’m gonna go for a Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 2+. Alas, the thing is going to set me back $170

    The Ugly: My work visa expires next year. I’m worried Donnie will do something that ends up in me not being able to renew it

    • Space Monster W.

      Where are you from originally?

      • TheGranulatingDarkSatanicMilfs

        Mexico. Moved to the USA in 2004. I’ve always lived here legally, under different visas. Right now I have an H1B, but when that expires I’ll get a NAFTA one, which is the one Donnie wants to abolish

        • Space Monster W.

          Gotcha. I have several graduate student friends who are going through H1B trials right now.

    • KyleJMcBride

      I’d love to see Brujeria, haven’t had a chance yet.

      • TheGranulatingDarkSatanicMilfs

        Juan Brujo’s vocals kinda suck live, but the band was tight as hell

    • GoatForest

      That sucks, man.

    • more beer

      I don’t think you have to worry too much. You came here legally. He seems good with that. It is those who came illegally who may have problems.

      • TheGranulatingDarkSatanicMilfs

        I know. I mean, I am a liberal, but I’m also not a close minded moron who thinks the right wing is always wrong about everything. Illegal immigration is indeed a very serious issue, and I can understand how fucked up it is for a US worker to lose his job to a Mexican with no papers just because the employer can pay him half minimum wage. It just worries me a little how Trump condemned NAFTA during his campaign; then again, I also believe that it was just a way for Trump to shit on Hillary (Bill Clinton is the one who signed the NAFTA treaty back in the 90s). It would be illogical for Trump for just do away with NAFTA; the USA economy would suffer a terrible blow if he did that. So I’m not scared to death, just a tad worried about him coming up with some sort of reform that would make it harder for me to renew my visa

        • more beer

          I think the for the most part there ha been a lot of over reacting to Trump. All while acting like Hillary isn’t just as corrupt, maybe more so. For the most part America doesn’t throw people out who work and bring something to the table. I have a friend from Italy who is a doctor that does medical research. He had to jump through all the hoops to be here. But he did what needed to be done to be here. We need people here with skill sets like that. Do we really need another landscaper? I don’t think it will be harder if you do things the right way. I think it will be harder for people who have done it the wrong way. I read the other day. An Illegal alien is suing San Francisco. For law enforcement turning him over to ICE in federal court. Because the cops broke some sanctuary city law. That is just out of control. To try and sue in federal court for breaking a federal law. It is people who are that stupid that are not needed here. Like I said you are going to be fine.

  • KyleJMcBride

    All the people who are unhappy best be planning right now for the 2018 midterm elections. Even losing one branch of Gov’t will be enough of a monkey wrench.

  • Óðinn
  • Freedom Jew

    Good: It’s been like 6 hours and I haven’t been rounded up yet.

    Bad: I’ve had sinus and ear infections that haven’t gone away after a week of antibiotics, so I can’t wear earbuds.

    Ugly: The alt-right gloating and celebrations reminds me of when my psoriasis goes full flare and my entire body turns red and painful. They’re America’s psoriasis.

    Gut Shabbos to you all.

    • KyleJMcBride

      I thought conservatives were pretending to like Jews now. Has that changed?

      • Óðinn

        They often pretend to like Jews. But yes, the “alt-right” is largely anti-Semitic.

        • Black Smallbeard

          the alt-right didnt get him elected. and yes, conservatives are traditionally the pro-israel party

          • Óðinn

            Racists did get him elected, “alt right” included.

          • Black Smallbeard

            lol thats hilarious.

            that sentiment is what got him elected, friend

          • Óðinn

            Racism got him elected. It’s what he ran on, and the type of vote that turned out in high numbers.

            Were there other factors? Yes. But racism was a huge part of it.

          • Black Smallbeard

            ill leave it alone. this is the same delusion the entirety of the left is under

          • Óðinn

            At the very least, his voters knew he was a racist and voted for him anyway.

          • Black Smallbeard

            im not convinced hes a racist at all. in fact, we know he is a democrat, his kids are democrats. think about the circles he runs in. id say hes no more racist than any democrat (lol). ive never heard him say ANYTHING bad about blacks. the only charge of racism even worth leveling is against ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

          • Óðinn

            You know he’s racist.

          • Black Smallbeard

            against whom?

          • Óðinn

            Specifically? Barack Obama. In general, non-whites.

          • Black Smallbeard

            lol the birther campaign, actually started by Hillary Clinton? i dont particularly agree with this either, as its beneath a politician. do i think hes racist against non whites? like i said, perhaps against illegal hispanic immigrants you could level this argument. i think its the opposite for blacks

          • Óðinn

            Not started by Hillary Clinton. That was a false claim made by Ted Cruz, who actually was not born in the USA. Trump drove the birther thing more than anybody else, and it was racist. He wasn’t even a political opponent of Obama.

          • Black Smallbeard

            well, he was fielding a run in 2012. i despised cruz so no argument from me . i really dont even enjoy having to defend trump

          • Óðinn

            You don’t have to, unless you actually voted for him I guess.

          • Black Smallbeard

            oh, i did. it was a sad day to be a federalist. but i had to choose between two democrats.

            believe me, it was definitely a vote AGAINST hillary

          • Waynecro

            It’s fair to say that vehemently anti-Trump liberals can take some solace in the fact that many actual conservatives strongly dislike Trump. Consider it a bit of a consolation prize.

          • Óðinn

            Yeah, and the Republican party had 16 other candidates to choose from. Admittedly, most of them are also right-wing extremists and nut-jobs. But Trump was the worst, and that’s who was chosen.

          • Black Smallbeard

            again, trump is a big government democrat. not even close to right wing extremist.

            I do enjoy the “I bet Jeb is lookin real good right about now” jokes tho

          • GL

            I do not like to talk politics much, but, I think Trump is a response to the country moving too far to the left, too fast. Kinda of like a moderate reset. Democrats will rally in 4 years and move the country back to the left again. It is all healthy for the country. Change takes time. The country will keep moving left.

            /doneforever

          • Black Smallbeard

            100% correct GL. our body government has the physics of a pendulum. Libs also ignore this. if dems kept power this year it would be near unprecedented (i think less than 5 times in our countrys history)
            in other words: suck it up. quote me on this years from now, dems are gonna get a lot of positives out of trump

          • GL

            I would love to take a moment and bask in how terrible both the candidates were this time around, lol.

          • Waynecro

            In addition, the United States has a system of checks and balances in place to prevent a president from becoming a dictator. People in both parties are willing, able, and chomping at the bit to oppose Trump if he tries to do anything over the line. He’ll get away with doing some shit a lot of people don’t like, but the next person in charge can undo it all. I’m not optimistic, but I’m not terrified either.

          • Óðinn

            Trump is testing those checks and balances. But yes, this is a good time to note that we have term limits.

            The Supreme Court is supposed to be on of those balances. That’s why Republicans fight so hard to hijack the court.

          • Black Smallbeard

            democrats NEVER stack courts. NEVER

          • Óðinn

            The open seat on the Supreme Court that Republicans just hijacked is unprecedented. And people like Scalia who decided the 2000 election without fairness get appointed by Republicans.

          • Black Smallbeard

            unprecedented but not criminal. one might even call it strategic. youre telling me you dont think dems would do the same?

          • GoatForest

            Perhaps. My state has a log tradition of modifying its constitution to reflect whatever administration is in power. Of course, Louisiana also has a famously corrupt stat government. It’s probably why I don’t buy into the whole state’s rights philosophy.

          • Black Smallbeard

            you might want to expatriate to a different country with a different (fascist) government then, bro 😉

          • GoatForest

            Fuck that. Louisiana is my home. Despite its shittiness, I still love it enough to seriously concider getting a tattoo of a brown pelican.
            Also, I have no idea why you’d think I’d want to live in a fascist area, considering fascism seems to be the modus operandi of our new President, and I wouldn’t piss on him if he were on fire.

          • Óðinn
          • GoatForest

            Yep. We do have a tradition of killer metal, too.

          • Óðinn

            I think they might now that the Republicans have done it. I doubt they would have done it first. It might be difficult to hold off a nomination for 4 years.

          • EsusMoose

            They haven’t done it, but granted they might now because the right has not set the precedent for what is done in the situation.

          • Black Smallbeard

            inb4 “yeah cause youre a white male”

          • GoatForest

            I hope youre right, man. However, I live in Louisiana, where our most recent Governor, Bobby Jindal, managed to undo decades of progress in a very short time.

          • Óðinn

            Depends on your perspective and how you define “politics”. Politically (the Overton window), the country has been dragged very very far to the right over the past 30 years.

            What you’re talking about (I think) is social change. Issues of race, gender, and equality.

          • GL

            Yep, social change. That is most explicitly what I was referring to

          • Óðinn

            I agree with you.

          • Óðinn

            Fucking George W. Bush looks good right now.

            I guess somebody should tell Trump, his voters, and his party that he’s a not a Republican.

          • Waynecro

            Many in the Republican party are already painfully aware of this. Read anything National Review‘s Jonah Goldberg has written in the last year.

          • Óðinn

            Yup. The problems of the Republican Party run deep. Trump won on racism, sexism, jingoism. He’s not a policy wonk, or a serious politician. But the Republican Party has courted the Southern and racist vote for years. They also demand purity and create a culture where the most extreme voices always win.

          • Black Smallbeard

            real conservatives have been saying it the whole time

          • EsusMoose

            Can you explain how he’s a big government dem? From my point of view all his policies sound like reagonomics

          • Black Smallbeard

            just ask yourself who is going to build this wall (lol) or rebuild all these roads and bridges and schools he keeps talking about. youll notice one of the first things hes proposing is another stimulus, basically. its all the same old shit. big government doesnt only mean economics, either. keep that in mind too

          • Óðinn

            You do know that his “infrastructure” plan is to give tax cuts to private builders, right? Is the wall actually going to be built, and is it even necessary? He is for a big military, which is big government, but so is virtually every other Republican.

          • Black Smallbeard

            tax cuts dont pay for roads. more government spending does

          • Óðinn

            Yeah, I know. That’s the point.

          • EsusMoose

            I don’t see public infrastructure as big government, that’s really what the government should do regardless of size (on a certain scale). My understanding of his school policy is to go private, which would mean businesses would need to build or lease their places of business, so no government. And when I meant BG, it was that most of the policies I see are ones targeting regulations or restrictions, which to me is quite in the right.

          • Óðinn

            Military, police, prisons aside, Trump could be the most “small government” in his policies. The most in Republican history. He may get rid of several agencies. We’ll have to see what happens.

          • EsusMoose

            Noting that all BG sides of him are quite authoritarian in nature, wonderful

          • Black Smallbeard

            you think hes going to privatize all schools? there is no way is happen. it will be subsidies AND public schools. big government. just because the government is contracting the shit out doesnt mean we wont pay for it

          • EsusMoose

            I don’t think he will, but they’ll try to get a larger percentage. Taking money from public schools and shifting it to private schools, I would still consider this a right wing plan. The right isn’t against BG, just opposed to it when it runs counter to it’s belief (just like how the left dislikes the rights actions in similar cases). I know he’s not gonna decrease government spending, neither party is going to, they’ll just allocate it differently, he’s just gonna allocate it to the right’s interest

          • Óðinn

            Nancy DeVos is an advocate for private schools.

          • Black Smallbeard

            i think people should have the option.

          • Óðinn

            Sure. But I also believe in quality public education.

          • more beer

            Hmmmmm, Colorado has generated how much in tax revenue from legal marijuana 70 million in 2015. That might be a way to start paying for all of those things. Now if the rest of the country would get on board we would be in good shape.

          • EsusMoose

            When we stop wasting tons of money hunting and imprisoning small offenders especially weed related offenses, I think the day will be slightly lighter

          • more beer

            That too. But legalization and taxing brings in serious revenue.

          • EsusMoose

            I’d like to say you could show states legalization would probably increase that amount, but for police the loss in immediate revenue would seem worse than the equal returns in later returns from tax revenue

          • more beer

            In forfeitures? The police don’t have the right to take peoples belongings like they do. It isn’t like there isn’t plenty of other crime for them stop. They would just have to refocus their attention to something else. Believe me they are still plenty busy here. They just don’t arrest people for possessing and smoking weed anymore.

          • Dave Vincent’s Perm
          • more beer

            Nothing is beneath a politician!

          • KyleJMcBride

            I don’t suppose you’d believe me if I told you that I knew someone who once worked for Donald Trump that could confirm that, at the very least, the man is a bigot?
            The person in question worked for Trump briefly as a Japanese translator so, naturally, he was the recipient of all kinds of “cute” nicknames including “my little samurai”.

          • Black Smallbeard

            seems more like yankee assholeishness to me 😉

          • KyleJMcBride

            Feh. Believe what you want. I’m just passing that bit of TRUE information onward. You decide what gets done with it.

          • KyleJMcBride

            And now, once again, I’m done.

          • Black Smallbeard

            no, i believe it. does the callousness of an entitled millionaire make him a hardened racist?

          • KyleJMcBride

            I don’t care if it does or if it doesn’t. I’ve hated this twat daddy’s boy since the 1980s. I’ve no intention of changing that now.

          • Waynecro

            I have a Japanese colleague who calls me Goku because I used to have spiky hair and I “look like a fighter.”

          • more beer

            I will gladly take you to anyone of my job sites. So you can see first hand the problems with illegal immigration. Salaries in most trades have remained the same since the mid 90’s. I am going to say 90% of the people working at the places I do Came here illegally. How does someone from here who wants a fair wage for a hard job. Compete with someone who is willing to work for more than half what the job should be paying. I wouldn’t call everyone who voted for Trump racist. That’s just an easy cop out. I would say a lot of people were just fed up with these types of things.

          • GoatForest

            I can see that. Nobody wins in that situation but the company owner. American workers get fucked out of a good wage, and the illegals get payed like serfs.

          • more beer

            Yep. I am glad the lady I subcontract for is legitimate. Who does things the way they are supposed to be done and follows the law.

          • Óðinn

            I actually agree with you somewhat. Those workers get exploited too. Strong penalties for companies who hire people illegally is something we need to explore.

          • Black Smallbeard

            careful, youre starting to sound like a republican

          • Óðinn

            Yeah, except that companies want illegal immigration. I’m just against racism.

          • Black Smallbeard

            i didnt think lefties cared or knew the difference 😉

          • GoatForest

            C’mon. Now you’re just being obtuse.

          • Black Smallbeard

            thats what the winky face was for. you havent been around long enough to know obtuse is my middle name

          • GoatForest

            Fair enough.

          • more beer

            It is supposed to be $10,000 fine per Illegal worker. But it is not enforced. The workers don’t see it as being exploited. They are making more than they would in Mexico. I will tell you the quality of the work is terrible. As they take no pride in what they do. I actually had a Mexican American tell me he couldn’t wait for Trump to take over. So all of this would change. But he also said he was American first and foremost.

          • Óðinn

            Well yeah. They make more here than in Mexico. They are being exploited, and the lack of enforcement is a problem. I’ve seen agriculture workers in the hot California sun first-hand. It’s tough work. The jobs don’t actually pay that well, considering how hard people have to work.

          • more beer

            If we would enforce the laws we have on the books. Things would change. Wages would go up and Americans would prosper. We have to take care of our own before we can take care of others. But instead we let the rich break the rules and prosper. While the working class suffer.

          • Óðinn

            This is true. Most of that exploitation money ends up as corporate profits, and thus in the pockets of the already wealthy.

          • more beer

            Yet we keep electing the same people who have allowed this to happen. This is just another reason trump got elected.

          • EsusMoose

            And then chose a bunch of rich people to help him.

          • more beer

            Hey I didn’t vote for either of those carpetbaggers. Things will stay the same if you keep voting in the people who got us in this predicament in the first place.

          • EsusMoose

            I said somewhere along here, that, yes Hillary isn’t good, but I could see her performing decent acts more often than trump, and as a pragmatic individual I saw that as a reason to vote. Just gotta wait for the old guard to die and hope the slightly less old aren’t as bad as them

          • more beer

            It is politics on the world stage. It will always be cutthroat. The only president who was a truly decent human being in my lifetime was Jimmy Carter and he still is. But he was a really shitty president. I am not sure being a decent human being is a good character trait for a president. As the job entails doing a lot of really scummy things.

          • GoatForest

            Yeah, I’ve been thinking about that a bit, myself. For example, Teddy was a great President and a total badass, but he was also a pretty virulent imperialist.

          • more beer

            But he talked softly and carried a big stick. You really can’t fuck with that. But it really isn’t a job for your typical nice guy. You need to be pretty fucking ruthless to be the potus.

          • GoatForest

            I will say that I am a fan of Teddy’s “quit the yackin’; get to hackin'” style, though.

          • more beer

            As am I. America has a lot of enemies. Coddling them is not how they should be handled. We need to have a no nonsense leader who doesn’t take shit from any of them. But then again they threw away the mold when they made Teddy Roosevelt. There are no leaders like him anymore.

          • GoatForest

            Indeed.

          • Carlos Parlo

            I’d say both Carter and H.W. were good, ethical human beings while and after being in office. I lean towards the belief that Barry was as well, I’ll give him time to see how he performs post-WH. But both Carter and H.W. were ahead of their time in many of their political acts, pragmatic and knew what they were doing it was just that the American people didn’t understand or have the patience to see the end goals. BTW, sorry for a 7 day late comment, stumbled on this article linked from the Slayer post today.

          • more beer

            Barry really blew it at the end. Releasing terrorist bombers, Manning a traitor who gave away troop positions and movements. I am a veteran and I am not god with that. I personally think Manning should have faced a summary execution. Along with that underhanded move to send money to Palestine. A place who’s leaders are Hamas who are considered a terrorist organization. The thing with HW was the “read my lips no new taxes”. Which is what killed his bid for re election. It’s cool we all miss things on disqus.

          • Óðinn

            People have different opinions on why he was elected, like there are some profound thinkers out there on the far right or something. I blame Trump for being a narcissist and an idiot, I blame the Republican party for putting party ahead of country, and I blame the people who voted for Trump because they are uninformed frightened idiots.

          • more beer

            Your last sentence has a lot to do with it too. The left kept calling all of his voters uninformed and stupid low IQ. People do not take that very well. For a party that preaches tolerance. That is very hypocritical. Plus a lot of the reactions. Like Hillary won because she won the the popular vote is absurd. They teach us how the system works and about the electoral college. In 7th grade social studies. Were they not paying attention or are they low IQ? A lot of them think that they should listen to A list entertainers. For their political opinions. Newsflash those people are part of the 1%. On top of which most of them live in a fantasy world and are crazy. What is driving me really nuts though. Is all the metal heads who think we should conform and be part of their system. Metal, Punk, and Hardcore have always been about bucking the system not joining it. Sure we have to work and pay taxes. But that doesn’t mean we have to agree with status quo. Because we all need to do those things in order to eat and have a place to live. But the real truth is Hillary was one of the worst candidates ever. Like Lenzig from Cephalic Carnage said to me a few months ago. “We have a piece of shit and a turd running for president. Either way we are getting a shit sandwich.” He was certainly right about that.

          • Óðinn

            Well, I agree with you to a degree. But blaming the people who did not vote for Trump makes no sense. Trump was the worst candidate ever, regardless of Hillary Clinton. I’m not tolerant of uneducated rubes or racism, nor should I be.

          • more beer

            Neither candidate had Americas best interest at heart. But every person who voted for Trump a racist is absurd. The turnout of black voters was very low this election. Are they being called racist? They were both the worst candidates ever. It seems to me the left has forgotten the golden rule treat people the way you want to be treated. Their is also such a thing as losing graciously. We were fucked no matter which one got elected. Neither one are for the people. Both are for the 1%.

          • GoatForest

            Bingo.

          • KyleJMcBride

            He was elected because Hillary Clinton was a shit candidate.

  • JWG79

    Good: Found a couple more items from my iTunes collection (that I’d like to totally hide but can’t yet) on Bandcamp, so I can at least hide the few iTunes and wishlist the Bandcamp versions instead.

    Bad: Albums that are in my iTunes collection but not Bandcamp, because either (a) neither artist nor label is on Bandcamp or (b) artist or label is on Bandcamp, but for some reason not that album.

    A few that match A (as far as I can tell):
    – Diemonds
    – Purson
    – Triptykon

    A few that match B (as far as I can tell):

    – Evoken: Caress of the Void
    – Glittertind: Blåne for Blåne (which is weird because its lead single is posted)
    – Minsk: Out of a Center Which is Neither Dead Nor Alive
    – The Ocean: Fogdiver EP
    – Orchid: Sign Of the Witch EP
    – Psychedelic Witchcraft: The Vision
    – Sulphur Aeon: Swallowed By The Ocean’s Tide
    – Thyrfing: Urkraft & De Ödeslösa

    Ugly: POLITICS.

  • Óðinn

    GOOD: I just at a really delicious Margherita Pizza and had a chat with Jamie Hooper (3 Inches of Blood, Erosion)

    BAD: Barack Obama is no longer President. He did a good job though.

    UGLY: The growing trend toward fascism and complete corporate control in the United States.

    FRIGHTENING: Mental midget, Rick Perry, is now going to be in charge of America’s nuclear stockpiles. A job last held by a proper nuclear physicist. Perry didn’t even know what the job entailed when he accepted it. Good luck, planet Earth. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/us/politics/rick-perry-energy-secretary-donald-trump.html?_r=0

    • more beer

      The truth is your life isn’t going too change that much. We survived LBJ, Nixon Reagan and 2 Bushes. Bill Clinton was as big a misogynist as Trump. So was Kennedy and he is considered an American hero. Hillary is just as dishonest as Trump is. No matter which one got elected the only winners were the 1%.

  • KyleJMcBride

    Nope, not gonna do it. All my political comments have been deleted. I’m not having anything to do with this circular firing squad we’ve got going on here.

  • Waynecro

    Good: Rainstorms and finally getting the Implore shirts I ordered. I think the package was kidnapped and held hostage somewhere between Germany and my house.

    There’s enough bad and ugly floating around right now, so here’s a wacky Japanese music video instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSjn0bg2XLY

  • GL

    Heyoooooo!

    GL

    • GL

      GUYYSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

      GL

      • GL

        POISON IVYYYYYYY ON MY WHOLE BODY!!!!!!!!

        GL

        • GL

          NATURAL LIGHT BEEEEEERS IN MY BELLY!!!!!!

          GL

          • GL

            *whips my head bacck and fourth*
            *eagles cry*

            GL

        • Black Smallbeard

          im one of the few lucky fools unaffected by poison ivy

          • GL

            THATS CUZ U DO NOT DO ENOUGH MANLY WORK TO GET IT, SON

          • Black Smallbeard

            i find that funny

          • GL

            JUST KID, BAE

          • Black Smallbeard

            meh, i guess i really dont anymore. getting old and soft 🙁

          • KyleJMcBride

            Never had it so I don’t know either way.

          • GL

            The shit is awesome. It takes 4 days to fully inflame, then a week to clear up. Which is plenty of time to removal every last bit of skin on your body while it clears up!

          • Space Monster W.

            I used to get it as a kid when I would go out and play in the woods, but it has been many, many years

          • more beer

            It kind of helps that as an adult you know what it looks like.

          • EsusMoose

            fuck there used to be a patch somewhere in my parent’s backyard, got it once and always avoided that patch of woods

  • Guppusmaximus
  • KyleJMcBride

    All I care about is S2 of The Expanse(Feb 2nd), Anthrax(May 7th), Mastodon(May 8th), and Iron Maiden/Ghost(July17th) and the required narcotics to go with them.

    • GL

      ONCE MORE ‘ROUND THE SUN WE GOOOOO AGGGAAAAIIINNNNN

    • GL

      The wife and I are planning on going to Indy for the Nopeth, Gojira, and Devin Townsend.

      *boing*

      • Black Smallbeard

        that show will entirely depend on setlist. we know what youll get out of Opeth tho

        • GL

          We will surely be leaving after Gojira. lol

          • Black Smallbeard

            meh, i wouldnt

          • GL

            Oh come on, we have married people stuff to do while the daughter is being watched. Like… ya know… falling asleep in our room at 930, instead of falling asleep at the concert. lol

          • GL

            I have now switched to Miller Lite. Fucking gonna get crazy now

          • Black Smallbeard

            you mean crazy amounts of urinating?

          • GL

            DUH

          • KyleJMcBride

            I don’t think GL likes Opeth to begin with.

          • GL

            /true

            not sure I have ever listened to one of their songs… give me a rec! I will play it now!

          • Waynecro
          • GL

            This is really good. The vocals are top notch!

          • Waynecro

            Once upon a time, Opeth was one of my favorite bands. Then the last three albums happened.

          • GL

            Which album should I explicitly listen to in full?

          • Waynecro

            My favorite is Blackwater Park. It may not be the band’s best album overall (certainly many fans prefer their earlier albums), but I think it’s very approachable and totally rocking. Case in point:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg54DfCfv6c

          • GoatForest

            My Arms, Your Hearse is glorious.

          • KyleJMcBride

            I liked Heritage but Pale Communion and Sorceress were boring.

          • Black Smallbeard

            im . . unoffended by new Opeth

          • KyleJMcBride

            Here’s some “heavy” Opeth
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kKNT3PdDkE

          • GL

            dis is gud

          • KyleJMcBride
          • GoatForest

            Don’t forget about “Demon of the Fall”.

          • GoatForest

            Oh, nevermind. I just read further down. You didn’t.

          • KyleJMcBride

            and here’s some “lighter” Opeth
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEaf9LqIUZQ

          • Señor Jefe El Rosa

            Hey GL, there’s this really cool writer on a metal site that does complete discography listens and writes about them, check it out!

            http://www.toiletovhell.com/observing-opeth-a-discography-breakdown/

        • KyleJMcBride

          Opeth played a lot of classics when I saw them last year(Ghosts of Perdition, Drapery Falls, Face Of Melinda, In My Time…, Demon Of The Fall, Hex Omega, Deliverance), 2/3 of the set in fact.

          • Black Smallbeard

            really? huh well . . like i said, stick around GL

          • KyleJMcBride

            And The Sword was the opener when I saw them so that made the show even better.

          • Señor Jefe El Rosa

            DEMON DEMON OF THE FALL!

            That was the highlight for me

      • Dude that sounds amazing!

    • tigeraid

      The Expanse. >>>>>>> *

      Well, except mebbe Maiden. Iron Maiden > The Expanse >>>>>>>> *

  • Special Agent Dale Cooper

    Good: The Twin Peaks revival is only 5 months away. *squee*
    Bad: Donald Trump is president. Well, it was nice knowing all of y’all motherfuckers, I’ll see you all in hell. I mean, fuck, now that America has a fascist leader, us British bastards are either gonna get a Theresa May who finally admits to being a far-right fuckwit, or fucking UKIP are gonna be in power. 🙁
    Ugly: My filthy commie heart after today. It’s shriveled and dead.

    • KyleJMcBride

      Twin Peaks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

      • GL

        ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BOOBS??????????

        • Special Agent Dale Cooper

          No, we’re finally gonna see what kind of damage my doppelganger did while I was gone. I mean he has *massive Twin Peaks Season 2 spoiler* inside him, he must have fucked some shit up during the 25 years I’ve been in the Black Lodge.

          (Real talk, people who haven’t seen Twin Peaks before must hate me)

          • GL

            I have no idea what I just read.

          • KyleJMcBride

            You have to watch 2 seasons worth of Twin Peaks to gasp it.

          • Special Agent Dale Cooper

            Have you seen my visual autobiography, Twin Peaks?
            It’s great, the second best TV show imho. (I would mention my favorite, but there is a ban on Anime, so I can’t)

        • Waynecro

          “Sometimes even hermits want to poke some boobs.”
          — Master Roshi, Dragon Ball

  • GoatForest

    I’m not cool with these plans. The loss of public broadcasting is the loss of the last bastion of true American journalism.
    The loss of the ability to peacefully protest is grounds for more …extreme measures.

    • Óðinn

      I agree. Frontline, NPR, Nova.

    • Black Smallbeard

      who is peacefully protesting? lol

      • GoatForest

        If a protest occures and nobody and nothing gets intentionally burned, the protest generally counts as peaceful.

        • GL
          • GoatForest

            You know, I think this the first time I’ve actually heard them. Pretty spastic. Not bad at all.

          • GL

            REPENT YOUR SINS

          • GoatForest

            I’ll break out the goat’s blood.

          • more beer

            Much better than drinking the Jesus blood!

        • Black Smallbeard

          soooo, republican 2nd amendment tea party protests?

          i hope you dont mean any liberal protests from the last couple years

          • GoatForest

            Occupy was generally peaceful, dude. A bit generalized, sure, but peaceful nonetheless. The anti pipeline guys have mostly been peaceful as well.

          • Óðinn

            Yeah, and the Occupy people were still demonized.

          • Black Smallbeard

            lol demonized. more like made fun of

          • Óðinn

            Sure. But they weren’t really wrong.

          • Black Smallbeard

            sure they were. protesting the wrong people

          • Óðinn

            Wall Street?

          • Black Smallbeard

            so what? capitalism. just a bunch of mooks tired of being mooks. doesnt make it wrong for them to use the tools at their disposal to make as much money as possible. or did you guys forget about all those bankers Saint Obummer put in jail

            . . . oh wait

          • Óðinn

            I actually agree with you that he should have put many bankers in jail. I believe that capitalism should have limits. Making as much money as possible just because you can is not necessarily ethical.

          • Black Smallbeard

            there is nothing ethical about capitalism, fascism. communism, socialism, etc etc etc

            its more the position youre in when youre getting fucked

          • Óðinn

            Sure. It’s relative. But we are supposed to have government systems in place that are to make sure that the pendulum doesn’t swing tool far in one direction. If it’s all about who can fuck over whom, then it’s just anarchy. Deregulation, and lobbying left a few bankers in a position to fuck over a lot of their fellow citizens.

          • more beer

            But he made it a point to release terrorists and a transgender who committed treason. Who by the rules of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Should have had a summary execution.

          • Black Smallbeard

            dont forget about the UNPRECEDENTED (since were throwing that around) 1200+ commuted sentences right there before he left (more than the last twelve presidents combined)

          • more beer

            That too. But I am more concerned with someone who gave away troop positions and movements. Which more than likely got US forces killed. As a veteran that makes me physically ill. Along with one of the planners of 9/11 and the FALN guy. More so than a bunch of drug dealers.

          • Black Smallbeard

            yeah but, dont you see now how tolerant Barack “Drone Strike” Obama is?

          • more beer

            I know. He just spent 8.8 million to send 2 stealth fighters to kill 80 Isis soldiers. We couldn’t find another way to kill those fools? He is the leader of the I am tolerant as long as you agree with me movement.

          • EsusMoose

            I don’t agree with the manning pardon, but reading into Shalabi, looks more like he was transferred from Gitmo to a Saudi Arabian prison. Yes there are some networks that say he was freed, but those seem to be secondary or tertiary sources meant to rile people up.

          • more beer

            I seriously doubt he is in a Saudi prison. They fund terrorism. Do you really think they are going to leave one of their obedient task masters in prison?

          • Óðinn

            He’s probably already RSVP’d to the Bush family annual Summer BBQ with the rest of the bin Laden family.

          • more beer

            Crawford here he comes!

          • EsusMoose

            It might be a Norwegian prison level of punishment but it’s not on our dime and they’ll probably hold him to keep face. The rich of Arabia fund shit, I think the government will at least hold him to keep face (hopefully).

          • more beer

            We can hope. But even though they may act like our friends. They are not and would stab us in the back in a second.

          • EsusMoose

            Can’t expect others to act great when we look in the mirror and see the shady stuff we’ve done to other governments. No ones great, just different shades of brown

          • more beer

            I totally agree with that. But that is one country that is not to be trusted. It’s kind of like leaving Bill Clinton alone with your hot girlfriend and thinking he isn’t going to try an bang her.

          • more beer

            As a veteran I am irate about Manning. 35 years in Leavenworth was actually a break for that piece of shit. She should have faced a firing squad.

          • Black Smallbeard

            oh yeah, you cant execute trannies man. or hispanic terrorists

          • EsusMoose

            Pretty sure wall street fucked over most of the world with their shitty business practices

          • more beer

            Here it was a way for a bunch of bums. To break the no camping in Civic Center Park rule. I knew some of the crust punks here who were involved. That was their main motivation.

          • GoatForest

            That’s a damn shame. All the ones I knew were well meaning but naive semi-hippies.

          • more beer

            They were all actually bums here for the most part. People who didn’t want to work. They just wanted to hang out and do drugs all day and camp in the park. You know I am not against getting high. I just think if you are going too do that. Support your own habit.

          • GoatForest

            That definitely had to have contributed to the movement’s failure.

          • more beer

            That and the cops just got really sick of them and came in like storm troopers and finally removed them. Civic Center Park is directly across the street from the state capitol. I am pretty sure the governor got sick of looking at them and told the cops enough of this shit. They just set up tents on the sidewalk. You had to step over them. They acted like it was a KOA campground. I am all for protesting. But this was more like a rainbow family gathering.

          • EsusMoose

            Peaceful protests don’t make the news

          • Óðinn

            Protests sometimes turn violent because the police want them to. it helps justify large police budgets. It also makes the protestors look bad, and people say “look, they’re violent.” Watch this video.
            https://youtu.be/St1-WTc1kow

    • more beer

      Nobody is being stopped from protesting. I drove by an anti Trump protest outside the Colorado State Capital this morning. This is just more fear mongering by the media.

      • GoatForest

        I hope you’re right, man.

        • more beer

          We have a system of checks and balances for a reason. The Founding Fathers were very smart about things.

          • Black Smallbeard

            uh oh, here it comes

          • EsusMoose

            That’s why I fear, the house, Exec, and soon the judicial branch will be republican held. What use is checks and balances if you’re in line with the other 2?

          • Black Smallbeard

            because its fine if democrats control all three. they also dont have supermajorities. the world isnt ending fellas

          • EsusMoose

            They weren’t going to anyways, it’s been almost 50 years since the dems held all 3 and 14 since the republicans have. It ain’t ending, we’re just gonna regress

          • GL

            Eh, it takes a long time for bigoted people to die.

            /letsbehonest

          • EsusMoose

            It take people way to long to die

          • more beer

            The sky isn’t falling chicken little. The media has got you just where they want you. Scared and paranoid. We have been through many hard periods. This one will be no different and we will survive.

          • EsusMoose

            Honestly I’ll be fine almost regardless of outcome, I just don’t like the idea of having to redo the work that’s been done. The idea of self-survival is more or less small minded to me

          • Black Smallbeard

            what work is gonna be undone?

          • EsusMoose

            Well first, the dodd-frank act, which was supposed to keep wall street from causing another 07 financial crisis, but that’s on the cutting block. Anti-union behavior of states could seep into upper gov’t, yes some unions aren’t running well but right to work will kill them, giving business a great position to fuck workers again. I do see the wall as a regressive approach to immigration reform, I don’t see a temporary large waste of resources as a fix for a systematic that needs some updating. The repeal of the ACA will be bad. The lost of net neutrality is also assured. I think with our current debt landscape, giving more brakes to the rich and powerful is not the way we need to go, taxes are already lower than almost any other point in our history. We can cut taxes when we’re not shit indebt from 4 of the last 5 presidents

          • Black Smallbeard

            dodd-frank jasnt been enforced, didnt work, hasnt worked and never will work (you think Clinton would have enforced it? lol) Right to work states is a states rights issue, so libs hate it any way you put it. The wall is neither progressive or regressive IMO, nothing bad or good about it. ACA is garbage, as i pointed out below, i hardly know of any democrats that even support it now that theyve seen it fail. it has to be repealed. you must not pay taxes if you think theyre lower than any point in history. crazy statement.

          • > The wall is neither progressive or regressive IMO, nothing bad or good about it.

            Lol.

          • EsusMoose

            The main issue with the ACA is it has helped, just HC companies have raised rates (most likely in defense nature) and no one actually wants to fix it. The right have dug their feet in and said nothing but repeal will suffice. The wall to me is a massive waste of money, applying new paint to a rotting beam. And regardless of if it is enforced, I’d rather have it exist than have another wave of golden parachutes fall when they ruing millions of people’s lives. Also you are wrong about taxes, don’t know what you’re on, like people in the upper bracket were charged at 90%+, if you don’t consider that more, then there’s an issue, hell it wasn’t till RR that it was beneath 50 or so (they currently sit at 35%) http://www.businessinsider.com/history-of-tax-rates#

          • Black Smallbeard

            i guess when youre a working white man and are taxed at pretty much the highest level possible since you can remember then it always seems high :/

            those tax rates also dont include any other taxes we pay now (i e sales taxes and the like)

          • EsusMoose

            Pretty sure even with sales tax it’d still be worse then, it was just less nominally

          • Black Smallbeard

            it was also highest during thebworld wars and the new deal and all the other socialist upstarts, i dont think any coincidence

          • GoatForest

            True.

      • GoatForest

        I remember there being rumours of that kind of stuff during the W years as well.

        • more beer

          The media use fear as a weapon. It is a way to distract us from the real issues. It is also a way to divide and conquer. Don’t believe 90% of what they tell us because it is all lies. To keep us at each others throats.

          • Lacertilian

            Using fear as a weapon?
            How conservative.

          • more beer

            What do you think they don’t? I am far from conservative. But especially since Trump got elected . They have played on every fear possible. To rile people up.

          • Lacertilian

            I neither disagreed with your statement nor implied your political alignment.
            Simply found the parallel between your description of the media and the rhetoric of conservative parties the world over to be noteworthy.

          • Black Smallbeard

            in america, there is this crazy notion liberals have that the major news sources are right leaning. only talk radio is right leaning still.

            *small print newspapers go both ways

          • EsusMoose

            Fox is a major news source and it’s right.

          • Black Smallbeard

            name one more

          • EsusMoose

            I don’t watch or read major news, so I’ll list what ones I can, Fox, cnbc, cnn. That’s about it. I know cnn is considered left, I assume cnbc is corporate leaning. After that you get international stuff like BBC, and Alja-dubai-government. Then low level propaganda machines

          • more beer

            Fair enough. The media has changed over the years. It used to be about unbiased reporting. Now it isn’t. It doesn’t matter which side it is coming from right or left. Both sides put their spin on things. To either influence or outrage.

          • GoatForest

            Also true.

  • GL

    Upvote for drinking beer!

    GL

  • Fuck Trump, fuck his supporters, and fuck his administration.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58aSJQ9d_cQ

  • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

    Good – Just rewatched Takashi Miike’s musical horror comedy bonker gem The Happiness of the Katakuris. Wasn’t a fan the first time I saw it but liked it quite a bit just now. Imaginative, very amusing, and the musical numbers are pretty toe tapping. Plus underneath the weirdness is a pretty solid, heartening take on the joy and absurdity of family. Also my current read, The Hellmouths of Bewdley, by Tony Burgess, is shaping up quite nicely. Fragmentary storytelling, broken lives, a surreal nightmare clarity to the prose. And this week at work I discovered a particularly obscure but well thought of 20th century writer of Gothic/weird fiction called Phyllis Paul that make provide a fair few hours of fine reading.

    Bad – With total shitbags running the US and UK, these are likely to be a pretty unpleasant few years, maybe near decade to come. I feel for all the people that are going to get fucked. And I’m not hopeful of the chances of anyone at the moment getting things unfucked.

  • tigeraid

    Fun fact related to Joe’s mention of financial support for the arts: The NEA budget that Trump wants to toss in the garbage is $148 million. Trump’s inauguration cost $200 million.

    • Max

      Says it all, really.

  • Dave Vincent’s Perm

    Please. I don’t think any American has read enough books to be accurately described as a fascist. Especially not Trump.

  • Kyle Reese

    Yahtzee!