Blood for the [COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT]! Skulls for the Skull Throne! A Legal Conundrum for Cruachan!

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We typically like to think that heavy metal is a feel-good brotherhood of like-minded individuals straight from the pages of the novelization of Anchorman, but sometimes news surfaces that reminds us of how awful and petty metalheads can be. Don’t believe me? Take a look at the bassackwards and racist things knuckledraggers attending Maryland Deathfest have to say about the Baltimore riots. However, that isn’t the pugnacity I have in mind today. No, I’m referring to a much more treacherous form of backstabbing stolen straight from the devil’s playbook. Friends, let’s talk about the rapacious void of heavy metal litigation.

It came to my attention yesterday via the Facebook page of the best slug-themed death metal band on either side of the Mississippi, Slugdge, that death metal MEGA STARS Debauchery were suing folk metal heroes Cruachan and their record label Trollzorn. You remember Debauchery, right? The band formerly known as Maggotcunt? That death metal group whose band leader Thomas Gurrath was fired from his high school teaching job for being too trve and playing in a depraved, totes brutal death metal band? They recorded a cover of Rammstein‘s “Weißes Fleisch”, remember? You’re probably asking yourself why such a premier artistic act would want to pick on the little guys. Let’s take a gander at Slugdge’s post.

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Now, I’m no lawyer, but that sounds a bit iffy to me. I’ve been advised by my legal consultant Joseph B. Thrashenmetzger that this seems to be a case of what’s called “patent trolling”. For those of you unaware, patent trolling is a common practice in the tech (no, not the Jack Bauer kind) industry wherein an entity preemptively files a patent without actually developing a product so that they may sue the second party that does inevitably develop that product. Nine out of ten humans agree that that’s a total dick move, so shame on you, Gurrath.

What makes this matter even more bizarre is that the “Blood God” referred to by Gurrath is actually Khorne, the demon lord of bloodlust owned and developed by the notoriously greedy Games Workshop Group PLC, creators of the virginity-preserving table-top miniature game Warhammer 40,000. Are Games Workshop unaware that Gurrath has placed a copyright on one of their own IPs? Will the karmic equalizer of Hammurabi’s Code come striking down upon Debauchery with great vengeance and furious anger? I wouldn’t be surprised.

If there’s justice in this world, some pencil-neck WH40K players will be standing outside the courthouse blasting this song the day Gurrath gets remanded.

UPDATE: It now appears that Cruachan and Debauchery have worked things out. VIA Cruachan’s Facebook page:

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  • Edward/Breegrodamus™

    I would imagine that Warhammer 40,000 is a much larger entity than any of the bands listed in this article, and would have the money and lawyers to throw at any copyright situation that could arise.

    • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

      Yah. I’m very, very interested to know what their take is on this. Khorne is their IP.

    • I don’t know anything about Warhammer (due to NERDZ) but I’d bet seriously money that they can prove they were using the term in commercial products waaaay before Gurrath.

      It is worth noting that I am not a copyright lawyer. I generally specialize in bird law.

      • Edward/Breegrodamus™

        I haven’t played Warhammer 40,000 personally, but both of my brothers have been super into Magic, The Gathering and I have been in enough comic and game stores to know they’re kind of a big deal. Plus, lol, it doesn’t take much to be a bigger deal than the vast majority (if not all) death metal bands.

        • Also, when one of the biggest dm bands is obviously so influenced by Warhammer 40K.
          https://f1.bcbits.com/img/a4022766229_10.jpg

          • Max

            That album had to be reissued with a different cover because Games Workshop no longer allowed Earache the rights to use the original one.

          • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

            I was actually about to ask if Bolt Thrower has some sort of deal worked out with GW.

          • Max

            Well, Earache did. But that was back when GW weren’t the corporate behemoth they now are. Somewhere along the way they decided they didn’t need to be associated with Bolt Thrower anymore – though in fairness Bolt Thrower had distanced themselves from GW years before anyway.

          • The God Emperor of Mankind

            Besides that’s also utilizing early concept artwork for Astartes (I redacted it because one, that power armour had to many issues with it, and secondly it was to lolbuttz to send on a crusade) Original Realm of Chaos artwork is so much better. What with that Mark VI Corvus power Armour they got on. OOOOMPH.

          • The Beargod

            This cover art is WAY better than the other.

          • The God Emperor of Mankind

            Beakies man, I’m tellin ya.

          • Taylor Jong Un

            Bolt Thrower, Bolt Thrower, Bolt Thrower……….

            http://i.imgur.com/SFJ6RHy.gif

        • The Beargod

          I haven’t played other than the basic Warhammer but shit’s pretty fun.

        • I played Warhammer 40,000 for a while in middle/high school but shit was WAYYYY too expensive, especially for being that age. It’s a TON of fun, though.

          • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

            I had a friend in high school who played Nids. Always sounded fun to me.

          • I played Nids and Tau, my best friend played Eldar. Shit’s so complicated, though. It was hard for us to play correctly.

          • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

            Did you paint them?

          • Tried and failed horribly. I was never good at that stuff.

      • Pagliacci is Kvlt O)))
      • Taylor Jong Un
    • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

      yea, “damn there goes our 25 count blood god T shirt order…PHUUUUCK!”

    • The God Emperor of Mankind

      They could’ve just ordered an exterminatus on the whole planet and everything would be peachy.

  • OldMetalHead

    I don’t know why Debauchery would have copyrighted the words blood god – or why it was granted- in the first place, but I do know that in order to maintain a copyright (at least in the US) you are required to personally defend against other’s usage else you lose the copyright.

    • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

      It sounds A LOT like patent trolling, which happens here in the US pretty frequently. I know nothing about how that works in Germany, though.

      • OldMetalHead

        It does sound the same except it’s really not. Patent trolling is applying for a patent for something that is a natural / obvious evolutionary change in a product, process, etc. Then, instead of manufacturing with said patent, you wait for someone else to and then go after them for licence fees.

        • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

          Ah, gotcha. You’re right that it’s strange Gurrath was granted the copyright.

          • Taylor Jong Un

            German law is weird. When Wolfsheim broke up and the keyboardist tried taking the singer to court in order to force him back in the band, the judge made an order where they can’t legally use the name unless both guys are playing.

        • Maik Beninton

          So patent trolling is like that windshield cleaner case.

        • one day i was bored and read about patent trolling for a few hours. some of the angriest i’ve ever been.

  • The Beargod

    Ha! I was just gonna say I’m gonna give a call to a friend-of-sorts who (used to have/) got influence-of-sorts in Games Workshop and see if Gurrath can be sued. Then I saw the end of the post.

    • The Beargod

      Srs, I cannot fathom what the fuck is driving this dickweed.

      • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

        Ego?

        • The Beargod

          But I mean, it’s NOT his copyright – thoroughly, he’ll crumble like a cookie at first sight of a lawsuit from GW’s parent company. So why go through with something like this.

          • GW has a history of actively defending their shit, too, right?

          • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

            Aye. I believe they’ve gone after people for having power armor designs that were just similar to Space Marines. In fact, I think there was some hubbub when Marvel was showing off the new Hulkbuster design.

          • Taylor Jong Un

            Marvel’s lawyers would’ve ate them for breakfast and shit out glitter afterwards, though.

          • The Beargod

            Dubs speaks the truth, they’ll probably go after this dickweed eventually.

        • Taylor Jong Un

          Crack?

  • nbm02ss
    • Taylor Jong Un

      The breakfast of chop-em-offs!

  • Tyree

    This is my 4th time attending MDF and so far there have been no real issues of violence or racism that I’ve seen. For a festival called “Maryland Death Fest” it has to be one of the most laid back and peaceful gatherings I’ve been too. Don’t let these assholes (People that should have been aborted) give you the impression that this festival is shit because it is not. It sucks that some humans are shittier then most, but they are every where. Not just MDF.

    • I dunno even know if those shit stains will actually go to MDF. Most likely just dicks being dicks on the internet.

      • They were all my fake accounts.

      • Tyree

        Most likely. Try reading some of the comments on the Baltimore riot videos on Youtube. DON’T!

        • It fucking blows my mind how stupid the majority of our country is.

          • Seriously, I don’t understand how some people live day to day life with an iq lower than my ps4 controller.

          • TrickleDownOvTacoKvltRiff

            fox news helps…

          • Taylor Jong Un

            And reality TV. And Jimmy Fallon/Jimmy Phallus.

          • Taylor Jong Un

            I’m a firm believer that some people are so fucking stupid that they’re actually smart about it. Like they actually plan and map out the most idiotic shit to do or say.

          • Óðhinn

            Ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect? In short, the theory is that stupid people lack the cognitive ability to recognize their own shortcomings, and thus have an inflated confidence in their abilities.

            http://cognitivebiases.com/the-dunning–kruger-effect/

          • Tyree

            Like this dick. By dick I mean Geraldo .

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjUaAUhyPwk

          • I’m assuming you’re referring to Geraldo, and I totally agree. Dude said Lebron should wear a “Be a better father” shirt instead of the “I can’t breathe” shirt. He’s been married five times and has children with three different women.

          • Tyree
          • KJM

            The Nazi skinhead who broke Geraldo’s nose should’ve got a medal.

          • more beer

            Geraldo made that up. It never happened. It was just another instance of him whoring himself for ratings.

          • more beer

            My bad he got hit by a chair on that silly tv show. I was talking about when he said he got jumped in a bathroom by skinheads.

          • Taylor Jong Un

            Only three people were ordered to leave Iraq during the second war: Saddam’s sons and Geraldo.

          • Taylor Jong Un

            My general opinion of Geraldo:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hnJyq3d_cE

          • more beer

            And it`s only getting worse!

      • Taylor Jong Un

        Or could be Axl’s family. I’d imagine that there’s not enough chlorine on earth for that gene pool.

    • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

      I certainly wasn’t saying MDF is bad or even that most people attending it are bad. But there are some heinous comments floating around out there.

      • Tyree

        It’s a shame Dubs. I wasn’t directing this to you by the way, I just want people to realize that the comments made should not give people the impression that the festival is full of racist assholes. It sucks that a few terrible comments can turn something good into something sour. It should not be that way, but like I said. Some humans are shittier then others. It won’t change, not in our lifetime at least.

    • I think MDF will remain intact unless another incident occurs that sparks things up again.

      • Tyree

        Yeah, there is 21 more days to go. I can’t imagine it will go on for that long. At least not as aggressive as it is now.

        • more beer

          It all depends whether or not the media keeps fueling the fire. Look how long it went on in Ferguson. Not to mention certain alleged leaders who do nothing more than incite riots.

          • Tyree

            Very true. Fucking goddamn media. This is why I don’t watch the news. Although it’s hard to escape it on social media sites.

          • more beer

            Yep liars for ratings. They cause more of the problems that exist than anyone else.

          • KJM

            I use Twitter as a news feed. I don’t watch TV news at all.

          • Taylor Jong Un

            Twitter, where proper spelling and grammar goes to die.

          • KJM

            Still far less annoying than Facebook.

          • Taylor Jong Un

            Not quite. I haven’t had any problems with FB, but I mainly keep it to talk to real life friends and not much else.

          • KJM

            We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this. Bigtime.

          • Taylor Jong Un

            Don’t worry, I’ll still love you in the morning!

            https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByzJnwyIQAA43JX.png:large

          • Read a great book called “You Are Still Being Lied To” which points out the great lenghts the media goes through to control the narrative and spread propaganda. Already hated the news before reading it but this sealed the deal.

          • KJM

            Or you can go back even further.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

          • Taylor Jong Un

            I only trust Fark and The Onion for my news!

        • Taylor Jong Un

          Not to this degree, no. It’ll still be going on to some extent though, especially if the police fuck up again. Baltimore’s a violent as hell shithole to begin with.

  • Pagliacci is Kvlt O)))

    ACH lache mir den Arsch ab!

  • nbm02ss

    Not at all willing to drop the $$$ into the table top game, but I love 40k lore. GW are dicks with their IP, though; looks like they took down the original upload of this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtDVaBtWha0

    • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

      I don’t have the time/patience/money/desire to play the tabletop, but I played the Dawn of War and Space Marine video games. Pretty fun stuff.

  • RustyShackleford
  • Guacamole Jim

    “creators of the virginity-preserving table-top miniature game Warhammer 40,000”

    huehuehuehuehuehuehue buncha nerds.

  • Guacamole Jim

    On the real though, this is some grade-A bullshit. I understand and respect the principals of intellectual property, but this is just stupid money-grabbing.

  • Count_Breznak

    Debaucherys only exists to make Six Feet Under not sound as bad in comparison.

  • King Shit of Fuck Mountain
  • Sounds like a total douche move. I would have the guy personally present me with the paper work that says all that and rip it up in his face. Then proceed to wipe my ass with it.

  • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

    Would GW sue us if we changed our name to GrimDank.

  • Spear

    Please. Both these cunting poser chaos-worshipping bands will be swept aside by Eldar might.

  • Slit your goats

    If Games Workshop saved some of that money spend on their army of lawyers and lowered the prices on their stuff I’d consider getting into 40k again. Shit’s way too expensive.

    • You mean you don’t like paying $50-100 for rulebooks and $200 putting together a small force?

  • Can someone give me a TL;DR resume?

    I didn’t understood anything of this.

    Third strike this week. I’m tired and my english reading is getting worse. I must be sick or something.

    ¯_(ツ)_/¯

  • Dean the P.I. Staker

    I honestly don’t know what’s going on with any of this Warhammer and lawsuit nonsense but somebody said Bolt Thrower. Just an utterance dost summon the Dean.

  • They should just name their stuff WWAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHH

    • Taylor Jong Un

      They should just name their CD ‘The Fiddlie Diddlie Circle Jerk Hour’.

      • Hey kids, tired weedlie-deedlies? Why not try some good old fashioned Fiddlie Diddlies?

        • Taylor Jong Un

          And thus, Hootenanny Metal was born.

  • BLOODBEARDE

    As a tabletop guy, i hope this f@g from this second rate dm band gets himself sued by the wh40k scrubs.

  • I’m of two minds about copyright. On one hand, copyright helps creators keep their work from being stolen and plagiarized. On the other hand, it often limits creative freedom and mostly only protects big companies while fucking the little man.

    • Taylor Jong Un

      My old boss at Van Richter Records had a really bad habit about throwing online rants about how he was going to sue virtually every person possible for copyright infringement.

  • The God Emperor of Mankind

    Maybe it’s time for some Slaanesh love in this bitch. Porn for the Porn God!

    • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

      Waaaaiiiiittttt. You’re the God Empruh. You can’t commit heresy.

  • Taylor Jong Un

    LMAO at that Vice article pic. Nothing screams brutal heavy metal quite like guys with panty hose on their heads.

  • Super Nintendo Chalmers

    Thread needs more DAKKA!

    • Dr. W.’s Tentacles

      Oii, never enuff dakka!