Angry Old Man Complains That Americans Are Too Angry And Complain Too Much


HOT TAKE ALERT! Tom Araya, bassist and vocalist for acclaimed meathead thrash-metal band, Slayer, has some piping hot takes that he thinks are worth listening to. They really aren’t, but I’m writing about them anyway because it’s 2017 and there’s no better time to get angry on the internet. A picture is worth a thousand words and an advertisement for Pepsi is worth countless overly-intellectual think pieces, so a few quotes from an aging rock star are certainly worth a blog post on our favorite toilet-themed place on the web. Don’t like it? Too bad.

Per a report from Metal Injection, Tom Araya did an interview with a Chilean radio station, Futuro, and called America a “nation of crybabies,” in reference to the outcry surrounding his posting of a photo of the band with some functionally illiterate politician. He only elaborated enough to say that Americans “can’t have fun” nor “laugh at themselves,” and saying that he only posted the photo because he thought “it was funny. And also to piss some people off.” That’s about all of the juicy parts, so let’s get down to business. The Slayer/Drumpf/Instagram fiasco has been covered basically everywhere, including here. It’s been reported on and covered from every angle, some of them smart and others mind-numbingly stupid. Why bring it up again? Because fuck you, Tom, that’s why.

Listen, I love Slayer and I would bet that a fair share of our community does too. However, Slayer is quintessential dipshit-metal in the exact same way that Donald Trump is a quintessential dipshit. Sorry, the truth hurts. This isn’t making Slayer unnecessarily political or polarizing. Everything is political and, to be fair, Tom started it. This isn’t about whether or not he’s a Republican or if he voted for Trump; it’s about ending the notion that those who take offense to anything, be it a photo celebrating an angrily-tweeting grandpa or a song, are “crybabies.” I hope the irony isn’t lost on anyone that a common conservative complaint is about how much liberals whine and complain. Aside from, gee I don’t know, apple pie and not eating dinner with anyone other than  their wives, bitching about stuff has got to be a favorite pastime of old conservative men. Don’t let their “hurr durr I pull my got dang boots up by their straps and I ain’t offended by nuthin” routine fool you; they bitch as much as anyone else.

The whole liberal-snowflake-crybaby rhetoric is a load of ignorant horse shit. I’m not here to change anyone’s mind on the numerous deeply polarizing issues that we (hopefully) read about in the newspaper everyday. What I want to do instead is to encourage everyone to call people on their bullshit, especially when it sounds something like “stop complaining” or “that’s just the way it is.” Before you take a stance that sounds something like old ignorant Tom here, it’s a good idea to listen to what people have to say and ask them questions about why they feel that way. Everyone has gotten offended or felt unsafe or unjustly treated at some point. Everyone. If someone communicates that to you, all you have to do is ask them questions and try to understand their viewpoint.

This is especially true if you think you’re inclined to disagree. In fact, you might (drumroll please), learn something. There is a whole world of valid complaints out there and I would be shocked if you did not have any yourself. “I feel unsafe in a certain space because of my gender and/or skin color,” and “I feel unsafe in my home without a gun” can actually both be true. Do not set out to change someone’s mind or call them a crybaby for complaining. I implore you to do your best to shut the fuck up and listen, even if it is just occasionally. Living in a democracy means listening to the views of others, no matter how stupid you think they are. Please try not to be a curmudgeon like Tom.

That said, feel free to tell me why I’m a whiney liberal snowflake and that metal is supposed to be dangerous and piss everyone off. Also, enjoy one of Slayer’s best and definitely offensive song. YEP!!

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  • Doc Torluv

    He must have been reading Blabbermouth and YouTube comments. In which case he’s got an irrefutable argument.

    • Shit, pretty much any comments anywhere. Today I got sucked into reading a flame war on a Business Insider post about souvenirs you’re allowed to bring back from Cuba.

      • Doc Torluv

        Like ’53 Chevys and thick-legged female twenty-somethings?

      • RustyShackleford

        My adblocker has a feature where you can just block parts of sites you don’t want and damn have I just been smashing those mf comment sections WOOOOOOO

    • Óðinn

      Yup, when you can’t get your opinions from Alex Jones, the Blabbermouth comments section always comes through.

  • Mosh Hoff


  • Howard Dean
  • Howard Dean
  • How long has it been since Slayer was cool? I became aware of them in between Seasons and Divine Intervention, and 12-year-old Positronic Brain thought “Dittohead” was the best goddamn shit ever. DI kinda sounds like garbage production-wise in retrospect but Slayer at least didn’t seem like a bunch of douchebags back then.

    • I’ve been listening to them since Reign In Blood. Nobody I knew really thought they were cool then either.

  • You’re “a whiney [sic] liberal snowflake and…metal is supposed to be dangerous and piss everyone off.”

    • RustyShackleford

      This man follows directions. I respect that. YEP!

  • Sir Ukkometso The Based

    Liberals and conservatives are all trash

    • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse
    • Guacamole Jim
      • Sir Ukkometso The Based

        Uphold Hoxhaism-Posadism!

    • tigeraid


    • gacharicmeatspin

      So you’re authoritarian progressive then?

      • Sir Ukkometso The Based

        I’m a dirty commie

        • gacharicmeatspin

          Yeah, that’s what they are. Confirming as a Russian citizen.

          • Sir Ukkometso The Based

            >calling stalinism communism
            Oh boy

          • gacharicmeatspin

            What about Kruschevism and Brejnevism? Communism is a nice goal, but the road lies through some prolonged display collective feats that people (not to mention leaders) just don’t possess at a scale of hundreds of millions and there don’t seem to be enough carrots to motivate them, so only remaining option is the stick. I grew up in the 90s and I have first hand accounts of all kinds of folks who became adults around the time Stalin kicked the bucket: blue collars, heads of institutions, party members and so on. Communism wasn’t achieved in 70 years and it would never have been. Socialism – yes, but that only works for unproductive assholes looking for handouts. Sounds romantic in your social studies class, but we experienced it first hand, it sucked and try and tell me the next attempt is going to work out.

          • Sir Ukkometso The Based

            What followed stalin was revisionism, moving even further away from socialism towards capitalism. Modern communist community heavily agrees that soviet union failed at it’s task. It was pretty much the first time this was tried, of course it was not goingnto fully suceed. Socialism is not handouts, it’s seizing the means of production and giving it to the workers themselves (again, somethingnthat didn’t happen in soviet union). There are plenty of first hand experiences from duringnthe stalin and lenin era that are against yours, why shoukd yours be any different?

  • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

    Aren’t there like, a gazillion popular sitcoms in which Americans have fun and laugh at themselves?

  • Tom needs to retire and return to civilian life. He’s not so hot in the public relations dept. Slayer should probably stop making records too.

  • The whole fever pitch of the internet is getting to be so tiresome.


    • If people spent half their lives actually do something about things they find wrong with the world, we would not be in this mess. Instead, everyone has bitched themselves into a partisan shit mess.

      You know what a great way to avoid confrontation is? Don’t take about people you dislike behind their back.

      People work themselves into a frenzy worrying about whatever the person you do not like is doing/saying/whatever and THEN in the end, you do not even have the gumption to go talk to the person.

      What I have just described is the internet.

      Anyway. Slayer sucks, still.

      • Question: what is an actionable individual plan to address things like income inequality, systemic racism, police brutality, and climate change?

        • If someone identifies a list of issues they wish to address in their life they should identify similar persons in their life that they can work with to help realize those goals. Which slightly vague, but covers the basis of the variety of issues which you described.

        • i can’t speak for GL, but here’s my answer: start getting involved in politics. no one person can affect a huge change quickly, so the best we can hope to do is start at the bottom: join a neighborhood association, go to general assembly meetings, learn how the American political system works, start a campaign for Alderman (or something similar on a small scale).
          if a person doesn’t want to join the political system, he/she can get into contact with his/her local alderman, mayor, etc. write letters, make phone calls, print flyers, make a website.

          • It’s cool to talk about and be passionate about politics outside of the voting booth and a career in politics. The problem is when we start demanding to know who voted for who and harassing so-called friends and family because their personal ideologies don’t align with ours. I say “we” because I’ve done it before as well and acknowledge my own flaws.

            I mean, I work with the handicapped and disadvantaged. People who bitch at me for hours and days because I didn’t vote for someone I’ve disliked for a very legitimate reason since the early-nineties aren’t affecting any change…except a change in goodwill and friendship.

          • trvth. harassing is bad. bitching is bad. i think we Americans just need a big kick in the ass so we can all be happier in general. Godless Angel knows what’s up 🙂

          • I think everyone just needs to stop listening to angry metal and get into some synthpop and fusion. How are we supposed to not want to kill each other when Full of Hell is the current soundtrack to our lives?

          • Óðinn

            And he lives in Kansas. I give him bonus points for being happy in Kansas.

          • I live in Kansas also.
            I can’t identify with the happy part, though.

          • Óðinn


            No offense.. I just mean with Governor Brownback and all. I feel like he’s abusing his constituents with poor governance.

          • Oh, for sure. Brownback is a re-animated, feces-filled, sack of rotting flesh parading as a human being.

          • Óðinn

            That’s exactly what I was thinking.

          • Clearly all these things are completely at odds with being mad on the internet.

          • i imagine skilled individuals could do both. they don’t appear to be mutually exclusive

          • Óðinn

            Show up to town halls when your Member of Congress holds them. Demand that Congress compels Trump to release his tax returns.

          • TheGranulatingDarkSatanicMilfs

            All those things you mentioned imply getting off the seat. That’s why they aren’t popular

          • especially if said seat is on the Toilet! m/

        • Freedom Jew

          But her emails.

          • “What emails?” *willfully destroys and secure-deletes tons of subpoenaed evidence and gets away with it* “Now show us more tax returns!”

          • Freedom Jew

            “Now show us tax returns”.

          • Óðinn

            Fuck yeah! Let’s see those returns.

          • Óðinn

            “Hmm…Let’s me think…Trump colluded with a hostile foreign government to undermine the election process. He’s also a professional con man, mentally unstable, and completely unqualified to be President of the United States. But hey, Hillary might have said something I don’t like in an email according to Fox “News”, Alex Jones, and Breitbart, so I better vote for Trump just in case.” – idiots

        • GoatForest

          I can only speak for myself, but I just try to keep myself properly informed and empathetic. I also try to donate to causes I feel address the issues I am concerned with. I also vote accordingly. Finally, I try fight propaganda whenever I can.
          Sometimes, I give in to flame wars (to my chagrin).

          • Óðinn

            And those are some of the reasons why I like you, GoatForest.

          • GoatForest

            Thanks, man.

      • People who talk behind others’ backs are about the lowest form of rat shit. Unless you’re like some little girls in middle school who need secret groups to talk shit about other community members I’m guessing such hypothetical verminous scum have little value in their own lives.

        • Stockhausen


      • Freedom Jew

        People don’t use the word “gumption” enough these days.

    • Howard Dean
  • most humans are crybabies, it’s just that we in America have the technology to let the highest quantity of babies cry aloud. we have put a computer (or cellphone with internet access) into the hands of every pissed off human being. sites like Yelp and Amazon allow anybody with two hands and a keyboard the ability to leave a review (“i give this product one star because mine arrived damaged” or “i give this restaurant one star because they were out of a menu item i really wanted to try”). humans have been complaining since the dawn of time, it’s just now we have the technology to give them the largest audience possible.

    • Waynecro

      Spot on, Jimmy!

    • Lone Biker of the Apocalypse

      This comment wasn’t posted fast enough! There was a lack of capital letters!

      -1 star

    • gacharicmeatspin

      You mean like in this article? Araya was giving an interview, he was asked his opinion and he expressed it. Someone didn’t like it and wrote a blog post – this one. What’s the point of it even? That a dude flipped over being written off as a snowflake again? You mean just like he probably writes people off as Trump supporters? That’s how trash talk works. Since when is anyone obliged to say “IMHO” or “agree to disagree” after every sentence? Unless fists are flying agree to disagree is status quo, no need to hammer it further.
      I’m not a big regular here, but I thought the point was to get away from this shit on MS. Nothing personal to Toiler or mr Shackleford (if that’s even his real name).

      • Mosh Hoff

        u seem upset 🙁

      • Agree with this, generally the articles on this site are great, but this is some self righteous soapboxing.

  • Stockhausen

    Well said. It bugs me to no end when someone’s automatic response is to brush others off as triggered, offended, or as crybaby snowflake. Yes, that sometimes is the simple truth, but Tom is just being the epitome of an old man here. Not the cool kind of old man who wears cool hats and gives you a nickname like Pockets McGee, a lame old guy who won’t shut up about how much better things were back when metal was bootstraps and we didn’t take no handouts when we absolutely obliterated the economy and environment.

  • Megan Alexandra

    Good article is good

  • KJM, Doom Scientist

    All this silliness over a shitty President who’s out of there in 2020, never would’ve been elected in the first place if the Democrats had picked a good candidate.

    • Óðinn

      There were many reason. I think Sanders or Biden would have beat Trump, but that’s just my opinion since we can’t know for sure….If the Republicans picked a good candidate, or if people weren’t so stupid and/or racist that they actually voted for Trump, or if Trump didn’t collude with the Russian government, or if the Republicans would stop gerrymandering the fuck out of districts….

  • Grvm Spectre ov Derth

    Tom’s old man opinions are as boring as his band’s old man metal.

  • Dave Shellenberger

    The “snowflake” rhetoric is just ignorant and tiresome. A relative called me a snowflake recently and I had to explain to them that just because I don’t like Trump that doesn’t mean I’m a snowflake. They of course still don’t understand the many reasons why I dislike the man. They would rather toss around insults or poor attempts at insults. He’s also the same person that whined and complained for the last 8 years, and claims that we should just ‘suck it up’ now that the shoe is on the other foot. Clearly, no good conversation is going to happen here.

    • TheGranulatingDarkSatanicMilfs

      I got called a snowflake the other day, and it was indeed completely idiotic. I live in Texas and its fucking 90 degrees outside. There can’t be any snowflakes here. They would melt

    • Howard Dean
    • gacharicmeatspin

      Just call ’em Rightwinger.

  • atchdav

    Identity politics undermines the cohesiveness of society and produces authoritarian states. Americans will end up with someone worse than Trump if they don’t set aside their petty grievances and get back to stirring the melting pot.

    • Guppusmaximus

      Voicing a concern about the quick & uneducated response to Syria is now considered a “petty grievance”?! It’s very apparent that our President has never had to pay any consequence for his actions before… He will now.

  • Count_Breznak

    There is hardly anything more american than making sure everyone else knows you are offended by someone else’s opinion.


    I’m glad i got to see Slayer with Hanneman & Lombardo, now i don’t ever have to worry about seeing them again, in the old days the thought of your favorite bands continuing without beloved ( at least to the fans ) members was unthinkable. Now members are replaced faster than those things you put under your chairs so they don’t wreck the floor.