2015’s In Case You Missed: You, Whom I Have Always Hated


This again?

In the last edition of In Case You Missed, we covered Crowhurst’s Crowhurst, an album that received a large amount of praise outside of the Toilet, but was nearly invisible here. For this edition, we are covering an album that received a large amount of coverage in and out of our Hallowed Bowl. You, Whom I Have Always Hated was released in the very beginning of 2015. Like every year it seems, there has been a frantic amount of quality music to keep with in 2015. You may have forgotten all about The Body’s collaboration with Thou; there is the off chance you missed it entirely.


I’m sort of a latecomer to Thou (see: a poser – None Pose Harder than I). Their 2014 sludge masterpiece, Heathen, was highly praised throughout the entire metal blogosphere and earned high marks on many prominent year end lists. It wasn’t until this year that I really dove into Heathen and much of Thou’s back catalog. On the other hand, The Body is one of my favorite bands at the moment, if you can even call them a band. Sure, it’s two dudes creating music, but they strike me as much as a de facto militant art production squad. They are as much a noise act as a heavy metal band. They tour constantly, release new music at a staggering clip (so much so, it can be hard to keep up with), and team up with bands inside and outside of their scope of sound frequently. I’ve seen them live twice this year: as a nine piece band at a New York noise festival, and the two piece themselves on an opening slot for Neurosis. I proudly own a couple of their shirts and harass people about them as much as almost any other band I frequently tout. Other writers here have described the band as “one note”; what this band does, they do really fucking well.

As mentioned, coverage here was not lacking for this collaboration. Prior to the release of the album I covered a song premier for “Terrible Lie”, a Nine Inch Nails cover which would be featured on the album. W wrote a glowing review of the album upon its release. He later wrote about an upcoming release between The Body and Vampillia (still upcoming as far I’m aware) in which his feelings about You, Whom I Have Always Hated had softened. He described the album as “uneven”, which was a similar criticism lobbed by Grayson Haver Currin of Pitchfork. W and myself agreed the cover of Vic Chesnutt’s “Coward” was brilliant, but I shared his feelings of being underwhelmed by the album after the fact. It was the topic of many of our correspondences, and I have given a good deal of thought to how a particular piece of music can affect us as time passes. Here’s the thing: You, Whom I Have Always Hated just came back into my listening rotation with a vengeance.

The version of the album I’ve been playing with aplomb is Release From Love and You, Whom I Have Always Hated minus the covers of “Coward” and “Terrible Lie”, leaving eight original tracks over forty minutes of music. It does lean heavily on Thou’s brand of tectonic plate-shift sludge. Thick, downtuned guitars share center stage with deep growls from Thou’s vocalist Bryan Funck. Chip King’s shrieks blend in with Funck’s growls at times for long, unimaginable howls. Songs begin in squalls of squealing feedback and fill with distortion. The drumming often remind me of The Body’s incredible New York performance: complex, oppressive, the work of many men in tandem. The Body’s sound makes clever and nuanced appearances on this record – check out “He Returns to the Place of His Iniquity” for a great example. Blown out static, vocal samples, and a low synth create an uneasy vibe before the final devastating track. Despite both band’s histories of impressively covering other bands, the lack of covers on the eight songs actually works to its advantage.

I have to wonder if the “you” in the album’s title is not a person at all, but God or some other spiritual entity. I haven’t ever looked up lyrics for the band, but The Body’s body of work is littered with references to religion, saints, and things apart from this material world. A quick browsing of their song and album titles easily confirms that. Even Thou’s Heathen calls to mind a non-religious person, and remember they are from America’s Deep South where religion reigns. One might chuckle in agreement to the sentiment of fuck religion; I believe both bands are more clever and beyond such an easily decipherable message. The puzzle has added to my recent fanfare of this record. Like many of 2014’s albums that I missed, glazed over, or loved and returned to (Yautja’s Songs of Descent, the aforementioned Heathen, and Vermin Womb’s Permanence, among others) You, Whom I Have Always Hated is growing on me with each consecutive listen.

The Body & Krieg [source linked below]

The Body & Krieg cover


News recently surfaced of the long awaited collaboration between The Body & Krieg, due out November 13th. You can also expect The Body’s collaboration with Full of Hell (recorded during their 2015 tour together) to be released in 2016. It would be wise to expect more from them soon too, because The Body doesn’t seem to ever put the brakes on.

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  • This is the Ed I like to read. The one that dissects and try to get deep into the oozing and poisonous liquid of the lyrical or artistry of what he likes. I’m listening, this is rumbling as fuck.

    I think I can try a shot with the full thing.

  • Some what related. Ethan Lee McCarthy of Primitive Man, Vermin Womb, and Ex CTTTOAFF wrote this on Facebook the other week about Vermin Womb:

    “Since I’m home and not touring, I am able to start doing a lot more with my death/grind band ‪#‎verminwomb. Our record is up for free download via the‪#‎throatruiner records website or our band camp.http://verminwomb.bandcamp.com. If you have liked anything I did before‪#‎primitiveman, might like this.”

    So hopefully more hate-drenched death/grind soon.

    • Oh, and more grind news. The new Rot EP is streaming in full. All 4 minutes of it.


    • I grabbed the Vermin Womb EP a month or so ago and it does indeed rip. A full length of that would be cool.

      • Yeah no kidding. A full length of absolute 9 fruitless years of total fucking agony

    • Hubert

      Oh shit. Looking forward to that

    • more beer

      I will be seeing them on the 17th and Primitive man on the 24th. It is a busy month of shows here in October.

      • Well fuck. That should be some agonizing fun. Enjoy sir!

        I’m hoping Vermin Womb will do some touring some time soon. I’m sure it’s difficult for Ethan though with Primitive Man being his main project and all. We shall see.

        • more beer

          I shall Plus throw in Vital Remains and King Diamond in between and after and California Death Fest this weekend. I will probably have to learn sign language in November.But it should be a very fun month.

          • Yeah, Just don’t be a dumb ass like me and not wear ear protection to concerts/festivals.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            I wish I learned that lesson earlier in life.

          • Vote for Jeb

            I didn’t start wearing ear protection until a year or two ago, but I’m really glad I started.

          • Good man.

          • Vote for Jeb

            It got bad. I would leave shows hear and have ringing in my ears two to three days after the show.

          • Oh yeah, that sucks! Waking up the next morning some what hungover and having ringing in the ears is not fun either. I’m so dumb.

          • more beer

            Too late. I haven`t done that in all of the years I`ve been going to shows. I probably won`t be starting now.

          • Yup, I have yet to start wearing ear protection too.

          • more beer

            It helps to not care what most people have to say anyhow. Plus you know old dogs and new tricks.


    I feel bad for anyone who missed this or Heathen from last year

  • Fine Sexy Ladies

    If I remember correctly, the titles and lyrics of both You, Whom I Have Always Hated and Released From Love, both of the collaborative albums from Thou and The Body, relate to family relationships, particularly parent-and-child relationships according to Bryan in an interview published several months ago. Also, the lyrical in Heathen specifically are actually meant, in part, to contrast with those on Thou’s next album, Magus.

    • Vote for Jeb

      Thou make a lot of DnD and Wheel of Time references, too.

      • Man, nerds are dangerous, hear that apocalyptic noise screamy music they made with those zatanic games.

      • I wish I liked their music more for this very reason.

    • Edward/Breegrodamus™

      That’s really interesting to know, thanks.
      I Shall Die Here was like a suicide note I think.

  • I feel like the only one here who just can’t get into The Body or Thou. What is wrong with me? Should I see a doctor or therapist? plz advise.

    • Nope, nothing wrong with you. Stand tall warrior

      • Vote for Jeb

        At least he didn’t use the super-lazy “hipster metal” excuse.

        • Some of us have evolved to calling it “trendy” instead

          • Vote for Jeb

            🙂 I can take or leave Thou, honestly, but The Body are pretty incredible, IMO.

          • Charlotte is full of people who eat this stuff up and are generally annoying about it. I know it’s the height of stupidity to ignore a band for reasons outside their music, but it does affect my willingness to listen to them.

          • Vote for Jeb

            I gotcha. I guess I don’t really have that problem because I don’t know anyone here who likes metal, haha.

          • I was going to write a long comment, but figured that was dumb and will just tell you that it’s not all it’s cut out to be

          • Vote for Jeb

            Haha. I feel like I’m in a secret club of one.

          • you can pick and choose your online friends.

            in real life you have to pretend to be friendly to everyone and hope they come to your shows but then they tell you they are “picky” about their music but then predictably listen to whatever pitchfork writes about and write everything off as derivative or low quality.

            edit: then there’s the punks, who just want beer and hangs. I like them

          • Vote for Jeb

            I see where some of your frustration comes from.

          • Seriously I never thought the punk scene here would win me over so loyally. I can’t talk enough good about them


            You must know different punks than i do. Could charlotte be that different from the mountains. The punks here panhandle on main st in a town of 4000 people

          • We have those too, but I’m not talking about them. more the ones that I interact with frequently with at shows.

          • I don’t think I like either band on their own but this collaboration is interesting.


            Flip those around

            Ftfy, w

          • Vote for Jeb

            We’ve had this discussion, and I politely but fervently disagree.

          • Edward/Breegrodamus™

            Fervently, dang Dubya.



    • KJM, Doom Hunter General

      You’re not. It’s just not my thing at all.

    • Dr. Negrodamus can fix that!

    • I advise you to listen to the first 40 seconds of Thou’s “Summit” album. Then listen to the other hour. Should clear that right up for you.

  • Hubert

    Forgot to check this one out when it came out. I like what I’m hearing. nice, full guitar sound. Great article.

  • Shrimp in a Pizza Box

    I knew about this album since the first article you guys wrote but never gave it a try until recently, where a song on Heathen popped up on my spotify discovery playlist. Don’t know what to think of it yet, but I’ve been feeling really sludgy lately (COFFINWORM), so I might end up really liking it.

  • Good idea to resurrect this since it can easily be forgotten about with all the music we are bombarded with. Listening now and I like what I’m hearing.

  • King Shit of Fuck Mountain
    • Vote for Jeb

      That’s a bummer.

      • King Shit of Fuck Mountain

        Yeah, Rebel Extravaganza to current release do nothing for me, but the first three albums are amazing.

        • Fuck yes they are. It’s been way too long since I’ve listened to those first three. I honestly don’t own any of them, but I have them digitally from my years of downloading everything illegally. I’ll have to put these on top of my list for albums to buy in the future.

        • Vote for Jeb

          Not a band I go to often, but the old stuff is good.

    • 365chaosriddendays
  • frozengoatsheadupanunsarse

    I think I streamed this when you reviewed it earlier this year, and liked it quite a bit, but didn’t listen to it since, as sometimes happens when I stream albums instead of just listening to one song and then getting the CD. I would listen to it right now but the pub, the pub is calling. Wrote myself a post-it to remind myself to listen when I get home again. On a side note, when we order up post it notes for work, the supply company lists them as repositional notes. Weird fuckin’ world eh?

  • My feelings on Thou are that they are brilliant in full-length album format and pretty meh whenever collaborating or spinning their endless onslaught of EPs & shit.

    • Edward/Breegrodamus™

      So you’d strongly advise against that Ceremonies of Humiliation comp?

      • No, no, not if you dig straight up sludge with no frills whatsoever. I like the frills. Pretty much all of the Thou non-LP material is/was available for NAME YOUR PRICE on bandcamp. I skimmed through it and didn’t hear much I liked. But Summit/Heathen totally rule my butt.

  • Waynecro

    Not my kinda jams but interesting nonetheless.